One of the most successful snipers of the Ukraine War was a pro-Russian Ukrainian woman nicknamed "Snow White". She was eventually wounded and captured. She was then convicted of killing civilians and sentenced to death, but it wasn't carried out and she was unexpectedly returned in a prisoner exchange. She returned to combat but was killed by a counter sniper shortly afterwards. Her exact kill total is unknown, but the Ukrainian forces 'expressed elation when claiming her death'.Upon getting a second chance, why was she so much less successful than she had been during her first deployment? Was it the increase in drone activity making it more difficult to be a sniper? Was she somehow tracked after being released?
>>65111988She got the Pat Tillman treatment and turned into a martyr.
>>65112000Are you saying her own side killed her even though Ukraine claimed to have done it? Or just that they got her back in the first place so that she could be treated as a martyr/propaganda piece when/if she died?
>trusting anything either side has claimed about the waroof>trusting anything either side has claimed about A WOMAN in the war i didn't know you could oof harder
>>65112018Both sides seem to agree about her though. Doesn't that lend some credence to the story?
>>65111988>foidWho cares, probably a fake story for future propoganda about gender equality. Like all those soviet snipers who supposedly killed thousands of people each
>>65111988>Her exact kill total is unknownSo, you're saying this supposedly uber elite notorious sniper has ZERO confirmed kills? Lmao
>>65111988it's an old war now, trenches are dug and anyone who didn't learn to keep their heads down isnt there anymorethere's probably way less targets of opportunity
>>65112035She has SO many confirmed kills that its too high to count
>>65112038Yet you cannot confirm any number higher than zero
>>65112025>le both sidesImpresseiv
>>65111988What blew up in Ruskieland today?
>>65112068nothing. lots of wind gusts - bad for drones. no mass attack today:(OP is a zigger faggot, don't mind him
>>65112068Anastasia Slobodyanyuk, going by OP's pic.
>>65112035Why did Ukrainian forces make a big deal about "liquidating" her at the time if she wasn't notorious? Hardly anyone's death below General rank gets as much attention as hers did.
I'd slobodyanyuk on her if you know what I'm saying
>>65112085Aw man. Shame.>>65112108Kek
Zisters love their "28 podlivintsev" narratives.
>>65112116If the enemy hands you propaganda on a plate, do you refuse?
>>65111988That sounds just like soviet propaganda >>65112116>Why did Ukrainian forces make a big deal Source
Can we get a source on any of this shit?
>>65112149>>65112188https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-5011313/Female-Snow-White-sniper-killed-fighting-Ukraine.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonline
>>65112191>dailymailRight, nigger fuck the off
Why are there so many myths about women snipers?
>>65112199>why does russia keep lying?why is water wet?
>>65112204I'm not just talking about Russia you dunce
>>65112199Unironically communist ideology. The propagandization of females in combat roles, particularly in sniper roles is a reflection of core communist tenets.
>>65112199idea of dangerous women adds an extra spice to a generic propaganda story, sniper is a role where it feels more believable and 'fitting'
>>65112210and where do 90% of female sniper myths originate?
>>65112131What did he mean by this?
>>65111988The vast majority of legendary snipers have highly inflated kill counts. Eastern Europe especially is very egregrious about their sniper cult because they inherited the Red Army Legacy which elevated many total frauds.She might have killed a good number of Russians, maybe she didn't, it's basically impossible to verify. Most likely she was either a fraud or only a decently capable sniper who was elevated to a legend by both sides for morale (having a sniper ace for the Ukrainians and having captured and killed her for Ivan).
>>65112199>myths about women snipersMost people intuitively assume (correctly) that women cant compete with men in most direct physical combat roles. Storming buildings or trenches and directly engaging in physical hand to hand combat etc is something no one is going to believe that a woman can do and survive. Sniping however is something that is plausible that women can do since it does not have the same physical demands that other roles have or the same immediate danger.For example what is more believable as a myth>"This 19 year old 5'2 girl stormed a house and killed 10 soldiers and beat some of them to death with a shovel and captured 20 in one battle and repeated that feat multiple times during the war"Or>"This 19 year old 5'2 girl sniped 5 officers and 20 soldiers and has a larger number of unconfirmed kills during her service in the war"
>>65112299>bright blue headscarf>bright white wall behind her>sticking the gun that far outthis is why i don't believe anything about women in combat
This war has made me realize most European war stories are complete fabrications.You can only believe American war stories. This includes Mexico and possibly some of Canada.
>>65112480I wonder how much Joan of Arc was bs
>>65111988>source: just trust me bro
>>65112199Ukraine is a very traditionalist, right-wing country, and Russia still has a lot of commie lefty influence, so Russia is always showing how progressive it is by pushing women into combat roles.
>>65112507She wasn'tShe had an eye for artillery and was good at raising spirits. Anything else is a lie formed layer, but those two things alone are impressive for a girl.
>>65112507The pop culture version of her is all BS. She was basically a mascot girl with a natural talent for rousing speeches, not an actual leader or warrior.
>>65112507honestly probably less than you'd think, since we can compare sources from both sides instead of just having one narrative
>>65112543Don't forget the artillery bit. There's a lot of neat anecdotes about her tied to trajectory.Her greatest strength was her devotion to Christ. She would cry every time she received the Eucharist.
>>65111988Holy machine translation Batman!
>Traditionalist right-wing culture with traditional gender roles>Deep fascistic influence >Immense hatred of communism and Russian subhumansI can see why people call Trump a commie, the fact that he isn't siding with Ukraine is utterly retarded and antithetical to right-wing interests.
>>65111988Snipers have their roles in combat, as niche as it is, but regardless of nation you can safely disregard most sniper aces as frauds. Chris Kyle, Carlos Hatchcock, Lyudmila Pavlichenko, Simon Häyhä,... eere all thoroughly debunked by historians.
>>65112564>Carlos HatchcockExactly what was debunked about him? None of the claims were that outrageous.
>>65112507Joan of Arc is well attested to, with her actual trial transcripts still being extant. Not copies, the actual contemporary transcripts written by a person who was sitting right there writing it.>>65112543She was frequently present at the front of fighting, though she only carried a banner. She was wounded in combat 3 times. Struck by an arrow above the breast that stuck a handswidth out of her back (witnesses on both sides believed this was a lethal wound and were shocked when she immediately returned to combat after removing the arrow). Struck in the head by a rock while climbing a ladder hard enough to knock her off of it and stun her. And injured her foot on a caltrop. And as other anons have said, she excelled at placing artillery.
>>65111988>Upon getting a second chance, why was she so much less successful than she had been during her first deploymentBecause she was never successful in the first place. If you had ever served and had the misfortune of going to the firing range with a chick, you'd fucking know that.
All slavshit threads should be permanently banned from /k/. You don’t talk about weapons, you’re just a bunch of slavs throwing shit at each other. Go the fuck back to /pol/.
>>65112540>>65112547>>65112548>>65112584Neat
>>65112507All of it. Believing that her feats are true because there's some sources mentioning them from both sides of the conflict is retarded. The frogs reveled in the propaganda of a warrior queen, the bongs reveled in the propaganda of defeating a warrior queen. She was just some literal schitzo propped up on a horse
@65112611Okay s*tan, thanks for the input
>>65112600The squire who helped her get into her armor also said she had "beautiful breasts".
>>65112299Drone flies in through the opening and explodes. Nothing personnel
>>65112627>too obsessed to (you) meYour god isn't real, fag
>>65111988>Has high kill count frol shooting civilians Very Russian
>>65112299Here's sound:https://youtu.be/-jftkDlcBD0?si=3H7JomvrS2YXedUQ
@65112644@65112646
>>65112630I'm very happy this was documented and preserved for posterity
>>65111988What's higher, her kill count or her body count?
>>65112191>When she saw a photograph of the little girl with bows and in a white dress with a doll in the coffin, she knew that she just could not live at home any longer - she would not forgive herself,' said one account.>She was quoted as saying: 'The unacceptable cannot be accepted. If you don't stop the evil, you become evil yourself.'This is "Ghost of Kiev" levels of fan-fiction kek
>>65112651>@fuck off niggernigger nigger nigger gtfo
>>65112654Maybe not that high. She did have a boyfriend who was also in the DPR forces, though he was supposedly incinerated by a thermobaric rocket.
>>65111988>Upon getting a second chance, why was she so much less successful than she had been during her first deploymentThe Ukies put a tracking chip inside her and knew her location at every turn. Of course they let her go for a prisoner exchange, and then just took her out at thier convenience. Plus of course rape.
>>65112564>Simon Häyhä>thoroughly debunked by historians.What is debunked?
>>65112116>why would Ukrainians make propaganda out of enemy propaganda
>>65112068another installment of picrel
>>65112627fucking newfag
>>65111988>pro-Russian sniper>convicted of killing civilians
>>65112694that he killed humans
>>65112116Payback for all the civilians she shot.
>>65111988>le commie woman sniper who killed 1 bazillion natzees Where have I heard this story before?
Her name? The Ghost of Queef
>>65112191>dailymail.com
>>65112199Girls get bows or are clerics (or they get cute tiny swords). Boys get swords and axes and armor in general. The sexes are different and so are the attitudes towards them. You can always break the rule but the rule exists.
>>65113379>BowsDo people realize how hard it is to use one of this thing>>65112199Propaganda value>Ahahahah you got killed by a woman
Sex
>>65112299I was waiting for a follow up shot through the wall
>>65112564>Häyhä Tbhbbq he wasn't much of a 'sniper', a marksman maybe. The conditions didn't even usually allow for a line of sight beyond 100m. At best maybe up to 300, but that'd be a rare occurrence
>>65113379Bows aren't for bitches, bare minimum for historical bows are 80lb draw, anything serious starts around 100lb and goes upwards to 180lb draw across most military forces that used them for about 2000 years to legitimately kill other people. Most fat cunts these days would be gassed out on the 6th shot, let alone loosing a couple of dozen arrows as it requires some big shoulder and back strength. Like literally next time at the gym load up your dumbell with a 100lb and do some single handed rows and see how hard you are.
>>65112611>some literal schitzo propped up on a horse*tips fedora*It seems that most of the people that today have a problem believing in Jeanne's feats are not doubting because she was a girl, but because she was religious.
>>65111988If I coom in her corpse do I get to claim half her kills as assist?
>>65112029>Like all those soviet snipers who supposedly killed thousands of people eachCope, female Soviet snipers are legit
>>65111988
>>65113502Did his gun see Medusa or something? Looks like it petrified
>>65112694That exact spelling of his name.
>>65112191>daily mailsource resembling real in any way, shape, or form?
Why do Russians love putting women in harms way so much anyways?
>>65112507>>65112540>>65112543>>65112547Stop talking shit about my wife
>>65113532This appears to be the oldest reference to her.https://motorollastory.wordpress.com/2015/03/04/Then in Oct 2017 Romanian, Indonesian, and Azerbaijani pro-Russian Twitter accounts reported her death by a Ukrainian sniper. These were quickly followed by embellished stories in Romanian, Austrian, and British tabloids. Many cite a Tweet from a Ukrainian military account celebrating her death, but don't have links to it. It doesn't appear to exist anymore and was either deleted or never existed (as far as I could find).I was having difficulty finding anything useful searching in English until I asked ChatGPT to look in other languages and it tracked down some Russian, Romanian, and Indonesian language stuff. Most of the English reporting seems to be translated from the Romanian story.
