>>65112940
Notice how her grip and hands do not shift after each shot?

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What pistol mag pouches do you guys prefer? I bought pic related but it doesn't feel the most secure, and one of my coworkers using it has had a mag pop out when tousling with someone. I was thinking of just getting a hardshell style one, but I want to know what you guys would recommend.

>>65112925
I assume you're referring to the canted ones? I've never used something like that but it might be decent. I'm kind of bothered by how cheap they look though, even if they are durable. Plus the ranger green looks beige so it would clash pretty hard with the rest of my kit.

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Without sounding like a woman, tell me what exactly is wrong with the Echelon

>>65112980
it gives me the ick

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This is now a Beretta thread

Has /hg/ ever been worse than this? Same regurgitated slop. Every. Single. Thread.

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>>65112957
I use the straight up and down ones. There's not much to them so I guess your concern is valid, I don't really wear my belt much so they don't see a lot of use. It's pretty standard ranger green, here it is with several other things in rg.

>>65113021
That's every general on every board you moron

>>65112957
>Plus the ranger green looks beige so it would clash pretty hard with the rest of my kit.
Make sure you get one that matches your tactical purse faggot

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>>65112980

>>65112953
For a duty belt? I use Pitbull Tactical. They're cheap but effective

For concealed carry? I use these. https://www.mastermindtactics.com/shop/elasticmagpouch

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New gun owner here, whats the recommended 9mm ammo for range shooting?
There's hundreds of brands and I'm sure a lot are expensive because they're hollow points and rated for real self defense scenarios
I honestly just want some ammo for paper targets that won't hurt my wallet or my gun.

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>>65113256
I don't know, but I've seen people say Blazer. I shot a few boxes of Fiochi out of my tiny Kahr and it doesn't look too dirty. Just shoot whatever, but stay away from Minute Man/ remanufactured ammo. And out some boxes of what you're going to use for self defense ammo through it to make sure it cycles alright.

>got a glock 19
>saw a video that said its obsolete now
>didnt even get to shoot it yet
damn is there any way i can get some value back from this

>>65113269
Blazer is copper coated ammo not jacketed
I would avoid it

>>65113273
nta
redpill me on copper coated, why should I avoid it?

>>65113256
>for range shooting
the most you can get at the cheapest price
range ammo is serviceable for trigger time but it's not worth fretting over
just decide what grain you want to shoot

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>>65113015

>>65113273
>>65113279
Am that anon but not that anon, also asking why not?

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>>65113279
He means "plated", not coated, and it's perfectly fine for 9mm range use. Jacketed ammo can be indeed run at higher velocities, but plated ammo is substantially cheaper. Blazer 124 is very soft shooting stuff. It makes power factor for competition, but just barely.

Blazer Brass is good.

>>65113303
>>65113279
It's typically not a problem outside of handloading, since I doubt the factory will over crimp them, and with a handgun odds are you're not driving them at fast speeds(both can cause the plating to fail)

But they absolutely do cause problems with compensators and portings.
>>65113319
Yeah, thanks for correcting me. Late and I shouldn't be up posting anyway

>>65113321
This is true, plated ammo can definitely fuck with ports/comps, but is otherwise good to go for pistols IMO.

I would say Federal American Eagle, Fiocchi Training Dynamics, Blazer Brass, and Sellier and Bellot are all very recommendable. A lot of other guys here like Winchester, too, but I think that can get a bit hot for range use.

>>65113327
While we're asking range ammo questions, aside from range rules and reloading, is there a reason to avoid aluminum case ammo?

>>65113256
Magtech, blazer, s&b, winchester, pmc, etc. Avoid reloads/remanufactured rounds. Check if your range allows steel or aluminum casings.

>>65113344
Yeah, brass has a lower coefficient of friction than aluminum, which means it extracts easier than aluminum, and it also has higher thermal conductivity, which means that it takes more heat out of the gun, and so the gun doesn't get quite as hot shooting brass. Most modern guns can run aluminum ammo without much in the way of hiccups, but certain guns, particularly those with stepped chambers such as Walthers and P10s and Gen 6 Glocks might not like it.

Aluminum ammo is, in my experience, a pretty noticeable step down in quality from brass. It's not hard on the extractor/ejector/breech face like steel case, though.

>>65113349
Thanks!

can beretta 92s handle aluminum case ammo?

>>65113368
92 can handle almost everything

You guys really buy Magtech?

>>65113272
a glock 19 is going to still be significantly more pleasant to shoot than a 15 rounder g43x

>>65113256
outdoor range? just whatever non-remanufactured ammo thatll run cleanly you can get for cheap
indoor range youll almost certainly have a rule where youll need brass so blazer brass, pmc bronze, s&b fmj, fiocchi range dynamics, etc. in 115gr
if you do a lot of indoor shooting you might want to invest in using federal syntech though since thatll reduce your lead exposure

>>65113368
Emphatically no, it doesn’t run in Glocks or any other gun I’ve tried it in, aluminum case is ass and not worth it.

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>>65113015
I did not know there was a sport model of those. Pretty neat

>>65113587
A 17 or 34 are even nicer, G43X conceals the best.

>>65113591
Unless you shoot alone youre getting way more lead from everyone else blasting away.

>>65112949
Pretty fucking easy with a stock.

>>65113368
Hard no, it was the only stuff that wouldn't run in my 96.

>>65113601
does that Duce sticker give you any issues when seating the mag?

>>65113609
Or find an indoor range that's properly ventilated. The one I go to has is moving so much air you can't even smell the powder smoke, and if it's cold out you better bring a jacket because the inlet vents are right behind the firing line.

>>65113601
Anchovy!!!!
>>65113572
Yes

But, if you reload, the CBC cases are not that good, at least that's what the boomers at my range say.

>>65113591
>federal syntech
id argue using these in outdoor ranges too just to minimize lead on your hands from constant training

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I don't expect to be forgiven but the past will be forgotten in this era of peace we have ushered

>>65113612
She was struggling to not shoot the floor, kek

>>65113663
If you have to beg weekly for yet another clean slate, maybe you're the problem.

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>>65113635
>if you reload, the CBC cases are not that good
Can confirm. Their 9x19 and .45 Auto cases don't always fit in the shell holder nicely for some reason. Same goes for Winchester white box .45s...

>>65113633
no

>>65113298
What is this

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My USP40 is out for delivery.
I've wanted this for years

>>65113773
based Curio and Relic collector

>>65112980
Nothing, its a perfectly fine pistol its just not doing anything huge

>See I gun I like online
>Go to order
>my ffl isn't in there already
>other close one is, but I've never been to it
>order it there cause I'm a lazy fuck
>don't bother calling to tell them about it
>comes today
I wonder if they'll call later.

>>65113256
>>65113639
reminder to get your lead levels tested when you go for your yearly physical, especially if you are shooting frequently indoors.
high lead levels turns you into a jogger
>lower iq
>lower attention span
>increased aggression
>reduced impulse control

>>65113882
What if I'm already black?

>>65113882
Really only an issue if you basically work at an indoor range. Your lead levels always spike for a few days afterwards.

>>65113882
>frequently indoors
Is once a month frequent?

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I'm new to handgun rmrs, my Type 2 RMR keeps turning on at random times and I don't know why this keeps happening

>>65113937
She craves intruders

>>65113034
It’s technically a uniform, want it to look professional.

>>65113773
I want a USP 45 so bad at this point I'm tempted to just grab one in .40

>>65113882
>reduced impulse control
so my confidence will increase?

>>65113024
Thanks, that might be a decent option. The main problem with the pincer ones is how short they are

>>65113882
and what do you do when you find out its high? its not like there are de-leading medications.

>>65114076
Stop doing anything stupid with dirty guns, find an outdoor range, stop reloading etc.

How do I shoot fast without jerking the trigger?

>>65114080
thats not going to stop more lead happening, just slow it down.

>>65114080
What’s my exposure like if I wear gloves anytime I’m shooting/reloading mags, outdoor range only, and wear nitrile gloves when cleaning my guns? Only thing I could think of to help would be respirator at range or cleaning but I’m not wearing that at the range.

>>65114091
Outside of a full cessation from shooting what are you asking for?

>>65114094
yeah pretty much. thats how you fix any similar health problem.

>>65114089
Watch Ben Stoeger’s videos, Joel park too, it’s about grip pressure.

You have to pull the trigger fast to shoot fast, you have to learn how to do that without tweaking the gun.

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>>65113668
A slate doesn't have to be clean before it's lost and forgotten as is the way of time

>>65113635
>>65113669
That's because mil spec cases are designed to be recycled, not reloaded. The imprecise dimensions and crimps don't matter to the furnace that they're meant for

>>65113910
No. I shoot indoors pretty much weekly and was like 1.7 without doing much to mitigate lead.

>>65114008
Just take test so you get all the other benefits

>>65114076
Donate as much blood as you can as often as you can. Ideally stop going to the range. Assess your gun handling and cleaning practices. Run d-lead wipes over guns and gear after range trips. Shower in d-lead soap after range trips, make sure to get your face, eyebrows, mustache, hair. Clothes in the washer with you guessed it d-lead soap after range trips. Make sure you use d-lead soap before leaving the range to not get it everywhere in your car. D-lead your shoes, more important if you have young kids or pets. I am not sponsored by d-lead nor do I really do most of that because my lead levels are good.

>>65114136
>Donate as much blood as you can

why donate leaded blood? you may as well just bloodlet with leeches.

>>65113572
>You guys really buy Magtech?
Yes, I love their brass ammo. It's actually my favorite 9mm

I like the 124 grain 9mm. For me its a good balance between cost and cleanliness. Also fun to shoot

>>65114189
i shoot 50gr lead free sim-x because im cool and different.

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Is lead from shooting really that big of a deal?
I'd assume some measures should be taken regardless.

>>65114136
nta but I do all that plus I wash my range bag with d-lead. I clean my guns with mossy oak clp but I don't know if that contains a chelating agent/properly removes lead so I'm considering buying the d-lead wipes so I can play with my guns at my desk without worrying about lead.

>>65114228
Lead is only dangerous if you melt it...

Now I remember that time a boomer started to melt and cast bullets at the range....they almost banned him, can you imagine shooting while some old fuck gives you lead poisoning?

>>65114228
Its people meming, I bet only a few people here have been to a doctor in the last 5 years.

>>65114143
It basically is bloodletting. Leaded blood isn't really such a terrible thing in the grand scheme of things. They're giving blood transfusions to people who need blood or they will die. No idea how it works, if they test the blood or if they randomly select blood packs or try to go for the same donator. At the end of the day giving someone else light lead poisoning and a blood transfusion is still saving their life. This is the quickest "modern" way to reduce lead and microplastics in your blood. I think that there are some treatments where they can filter your blood but who knows how much that costs. This gets you money if you're in the US and can save lives. Especially if you have a blood type that's in demand/special.

>>65114235
Yeah the wipes are great, I use them to clean my guns too as they're very effective at removing buildup from parts and are effectively a soft patch with a light detergent.

>>65114254
Consider that guns get hot especially at the back of the bullets that aren't always coated which can melt some of the lead and basically spew it out of the gun everywhere.

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>>65114228
I shoot twice a month and my doctor never says anything about lead. All I do is use deleading wipes on my hands and face after shooting, nothin crazy. These lil packets make it a trivial diligence.

>>65114228
Ben Stoeger shoots like 100k rounds a year and is fine. It’s a problem if you’re shooting suppressed rifles indoors all the time, shooting suppressed in general. That’s why flow through cans are being pushed so heavily since military and LEO were seeing significant lead levels in their high tier people

>>65114282
>Ben Stoeger is fine
The man literally can’t stop sperging, anon.

>>65114076
>its not like there are de-leading medications
there are. chelation therapy exists.
My basic understanding is that the drugs you take do a replacement reaction with metal compounds in your body, then you piss out the heavy metals like lead. Side effect is that you also piss out all the other metals you need to function like calcium and iron so you gotta take supps.
Lead oxide is also fat soluble so having high lead levels over time and then losing a ton of fat can spike your blood lead levels.

Most people would just need reduction/prevention of additional exposure like >>65114136 said

>>65114228
eh, I brought it up since its good to be aware of the low level long term hazard.
Flying long distance also hits you with extra ionizing radiation and increases your cancer risk.
>shooting guns increases your lead levels
Most people worry about their plane crashing.
>most people worry about getting shot

Who was the anon that wore gloves to prevent calluses? I'm curious about what gloves you used.

>>65114419
Want to make sure you get something that matches your purse?

>>65114419
the gloves themselves aren't as important as it is to put Vaseline inside the gloves
it's the only way to keep your hands soft for the ladies

>>65114419
Just buy mechanix or the thin gloves magpul makes.

>>65114546
hell yeah man flame that fuckin noob

>>65113256
Imo best way is to buy online, boxes of 1000, from whatever is on top of the list
Here's my search link
https://ammoseek.com/ammo/9mm-luger?ekw=credit&ca=brass&co=new&pl=no&sh=lowest
That filters out most of the garbag (but unfortunately also gets rid of Scheels which was good for a little while because $20 shipping was less than their price lag)
If any of you have a better filter link, drop it here.

>>65114546
>>65114592
>>65114626
Shut up, losers. I wanted to make sure he was here so I could call him a FAG.

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>>65114638
Its okay anon Ill dress up instead for you uwu

>>65114114
>Watch Ben Stoeger’s videos
>>65114130
>>65114282

As a non-gay man, who's videos should I watch?
Ben is gay, right?
He certainly looks gay.

I know lead reduces your libido and I'm still horny as I was when I was 16 into my 30s.

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>>65112940
>/hg/ - Nihonjin Edition
It makes me a little sad that Nihonjin can't actually own handguns. I feel like they'd be world class pistol shooters if their gun laws were more permissive.

Anyway, here are two revolvers, one of which was made by real Nihonjin sometime in the 1960s-1980s

>>65114747
cool man

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>>65114729
>looks gay
No, the several women he's been with is public knowledge

Disrupting the sight picture during trigger pulls is a fundamentals issue. Begin with the first half of this video https://youtu.be/MP12p-IYyto
>target focus
>input
>grip and connection
>stance
Stoeger explains and demonstrates what these terms mean and how they affect your shooting. After understanding these concepts, they must be realised with repetition practice so that you are able to physically reconcile them with live fire. Stoeger recommends five minutes of dry fire per day https://youtu.be/6NGyHcb-eIk

The second half of the video is about target transition with barriers and footwork but there's less opportunity for that at conventional shooting ranges

>>65114635
Thank god for Scheels being close. 200 rds of 9 for $47 even before military discount.

>>65114014
How long do you need it to be?

How do handguns eat holes in your shirt while carrying concealed and how do I fix this

>>65114889
Remove the sights from your firearm and any other sharp edges

>>65114889
lose weight

>>65114889
Your shirt is between a rock and a hard place.

>>65114889
Could be the sights, could be the slide, could be the hammer if your gun has one. What are you carrying that's eating a hole in your shirt?

Just bought a s&w bodyguard 2.0. Loading the full 12 rounds is so ass, I have 9 in so far and 10 is just so hard

>>65114905
>What are you carrying
Boxes and he lets them rub against his torso as he walks.

>>65114907
Umm are you loading the flush 10 rounder or the extended 12 rounder

>>65114920
Extended. Also, I got the 10th in but 11 wont budge

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>>65114804
>Nippon steel
Very nice, anon

>>65113773
H*ck yeah!

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>>65113773
.40 S&W was designed for women
The USP was designed for .40 S&W
Therefore, the USP was designed for women

>>65114922
I'm gonna go buy rhe speedloader tomorrow. Only got this thing to 10 rounds and its already drawn blood, my blood.

>>65114973
I love women. I love the USP. The USP is for heterosexual men.

>>65114804
Aaaa, so desu ne? Wakarimashita! Uguu~~

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>>65115075
Let me guess, you're fucking cisgendered too, kek.

>>65115138
idk what that means

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>>65115147
Dis nigga don't even know what dey genda identity be.

>>65112953
Anyone? I thought you guys would have more opinions about mag pouches

>>65115075
I believe that you love the usp, but the other two statements are patently false.

>>65114889
Stop being fat.

At the risk of sounding and looking like a redditor this goon tape is actually quite nice.

>>65115327
>goon tape
qrd

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>>65115330
It's rebranded hockey tape you can put on your pistols. It feels good in the hands and you don't have to do a stipple job.

>>65115346
You should spend a little hockey tape money on clp.

>>65115346
Cute hand.

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>>65115346
>reddit tape
>reddit finger

>>65115346
Very soft hands, imagine the hand jobs

>>65115399
I look like this and I say this.

>>65115346
imagine buying a gun you need to stipple.

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Its capacity was inferior since launch. H&K truly is the Apple Inc of firearms right down to their fanatics

>>65115075
>I love women
But you don't rely on them for defense

>>65115147
It used to be how autogynephiles referred to non-autogynephiles

>>65115448
Your opinions are so robotic.
>x gun holds one more round therefore it is better
Shut the fuck up faggot.

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>>65115448
>autogynephile

>>65115448
A 2011 with Checkmate’s UHC mag has 19 rounds flush fit.

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>>65115457
>holds one more round
Three today, two at launch but this was acceptable to Homo Kock because their aim was military contracts so they didn't even consider Glock competition in this respect. Hell, they even tried to gyp retail customers with button rifling

>>65115460
That's what you are and you will always have a Y chromosome. Deal w/ it

>>65115489
>2011 with Checkmate’s UHC mag has 19 rounds
But the frame is not polymer so is it really a fair comparison?

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>USPs are for "autogynephiles"
This website rots some people's brains

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You're trying to bait me into posting the Miku cos player with the USP45 but it's not going to happen. Instead, have a bit of /k/ history with this Cokeman snippet

>>65115657
>IT'S UNRELIABLE LADIES AND GENTS.
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

Fellas, I'm gonna get some KSD Samurai Edge grips. What color medallions should I get?

>>65115675
>KSD
Over priced turk mass produced grips

>>65115675
>What color medallions should I get?
the ones that match your tactical purse

>>65115695
Well they're all half off right now
>>65115712
Red it is.

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Should I get a $200 pd trade in p320 to throw into a raider? I suddenly started kinda wanting a raider a few weeks ago and this seems like the cheapest route.

>>65113344
No. I have run somewhere around 4,000 rounds of aluminum Blazer through multiple guns and it behaves just fine.

>>65115675
Black because Wesker's is the coolest

>>65114282
Also shooting indoors. Ben has discussed this topic and stated that he shoots almost exclusively outdoors and that all the guys he’s encountered with high lead levels do a lot of indoor shooting.

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>>65115666
Legendary shitposter, he was

>>65115752
The first video I saw of him he was dry firing a revolver into his shin.

>>65115718
>$200 pd trade in p320
Yes, where, do they have more?

>>65115769
I’m exchanging sexual favors but he said he wants cash too.

>>65115796
genuine question why do you want one when its been proven to be shit?
why not get a p365 xl?

Handled a made in Germany Sig P220 a shop today. Comes with 2 magazines and the original box for I believe $799. Looked like it was in good condition. Is that a decent price? I didn't think of asking what year it was manufactured but my guess is mid 90s.

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Am I a retard for wanting to carry my full size p226 IWB in strong arm side (3-4 o clock)?
I dont have any other gun

also what holster brands do you recommend for this retarded idea?

>>65115815
If you can swing it, more power to you. I thought I was going to do that when I got my first pistol. It was way too big.

>>65115718
If a Sig P320 goes off without the trigger being pulled.

And if a machine gun is a firearm that fires (x) more times than the trigger is pulled (y) then if x > y then a firearm is a machine gun.

And if 0 trigger pulls but 1 round means 1 > 0 means x is indeed > y.

Then according to the ATF, is a Sig Sauer
P320 a machine gun?

>>65115823
Why do you care what the ATF thinks?

>>65115836
Nta but did someone just turn up the brightness on my monitor?

>>65115843
It's probably nothing, that's just an EMS helicopter for a car wreck.

>>65115850
Probably just moonlit swamp gas reflecting off a weather balloon

>>65112953
I designed and 3d printed a locking glockazine holster.
I'd like to bring the design to market but I'm an autistic retard with no capital.

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>>65114999
Yeah, that happens.
>t. Bg2.0 owner

>>65115657
>>65115752
o7 cokeman.

>>65112980
I fingered but didnt get to fire my coworkers exact copy of picrel, seemed a lot nicer than a factory Glonk

>>65115912
Totally

>>65115346
People who tape their grips aren't serious about carry because that shit turns nasty quickly if you actually use/carry it.

>>65115810
Its meh to good depending on the condition. The thing is 220s arent popular guns. Theres nothing wrong with them except that is a singlestack 45. You know what else is a single stack 45? A 1911 and literally everyone american will pick a 1911 over a 220. 226 228 229 people love those. But the 220 is there. You can find em cheaper but not with all that stuff.

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>>65115823
>a machine gun is a firearm that fires (x) more times than the trigger is pulled (y)
No, the federation definition stipulates "more than one shot" so your question about a single round without "a function of the trigger" at all is a total non sequitur

>>65115758
>dry firing a revolver into his shin
Mad lad!

>>65115990
o7

How's. 32 for EDC? I want a Cheetah.

>>65115796
Does he have any more to say exchange?
I can suck a golf ball through a garden hose btw

>>65116574
>How's. 32 for EDC
This is a very complicated question that may reveal tensions between modern findings in terminal ballistics and historical ones, as well as the broscience of today, and observations of gun writers of days long past. It's very complicated.
>I want a Cheetah.
Get a Cheetah.

>>65116574
There is zero reason for an adult man to carry less than 9mm

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who up firing dry?

>>65116700
This but with .45 and/or 10mm

>>65116700
The modern model for incapacitation of threat due to pistol wounds pretty much only considers penetration. A 32 ACP bullet is enough to achieve penetration sufficient to lead to blood pressure loss, so (suspend disbelief) in theory it's Just as Good™ as 9mm. The whole RII thing will show it's mediocre, but making holes? 32 ACP makes holes.

>>65112953
I use the esstac ones

>>65113015
Hey, I am a noguns loser right now, but I have loved guns and weapons since I was a kid. I wont lie, RE games made me fall in love with handguns and the berretta specifically. I've shot a lot of rental guns at gun ranges, but I've never shot my "dream" gun. I'm finally financially stable enough to buy a gun without having to "save up" but I'm starting to get cold feet like I'll be let down. Give it to me straight, how fun is it to shoot your berretta? Would I probably enjoy it if all I do it take it to the gun range a few times a month to blow off steam?

>>65116708
>there are people ITT who doesn't do 5x10 holster pulls/presentation drills for every handgun in his carry cycle
Literally takes 10 minutes per gun

>>65116724
Are you not able to rent any berettas

>>65116724
get the first gen XD (it's literally the blacktail)

>>65116730
none of the ranges near me have a berretta. its just glocks, .22s, and occasionally a deagle or a revolver for handguns.

>>65116737
my man, how did you know my second favorite RE gun was the Blacktail? I'll look into that.

>>65116730
He won't be able to rent any Berettas