Post gear, discuss gear.Crack Castle Assault Edition.Old: >>65097420Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngiSObCy6ok
/gq/ Infographic Emporium:https://imgur.com/a/gq-infographic-emporium-1-00-1lZ5xw6Legacy Infographic Reserve: https://imgur.com/a/k-infographic-reserve-AIKzwWF>Last time on /gq/, anon became spaceballs man. A2 taught responsible saving and how to delete your browser history. Ukraine hit the poorhouse. Anon didn't buy digital NV.>QUICK ARMOR GUIDE 2.165CODE: * = active NIJ-cert, ^ = NEEDS SOFT ARMOR, DND = do not drop, ** = military.>Special Rifle Threat (M855A1, no M80 <44mm BFD):Budget: Hesco T212 or L211Mid-Range: Hesco M210High-End: Hesco U210 / U211, LSAPI**, or Tencate CR-6450SA.>CONUS Minimum (M80, M855, M193):Budget: Expired Hesco 3611C, surp SAPI**^, or Gilliam 6001Mid-Range: Hesco 3612* or 3810*High-End: Hesco 3811* or 3811LV^DNDElite: Used Cercom CER-EMH**^>CONUS Medium (M80 + M855A1 or BZ API):Budget: Used Protech 2120-5Mid-Range: Hesco 3411* or LTC 19513High-End: LTC 28780**Elite: VelSys PBZSA** or LTC 28791** or Hesco SC3812Elite-Plus: Used Ceradyne MH3 CQB**^DND (10x M995) or used Cercom CER-SOPS**^>CONUS Optimal (M855A1 + M80A1):Budget: Highcom 3S9 (SAPI-cut)Mid-Range: Used LTC 28550** / 28590** or Highcom 3S9M* (SAPI-cut!)High-End: Used LTC 28595**Elite: Used LTC 28570** or VelSys TSA**Elite-Plus: Tyr XHA4/S6/T(DND) or GEN 6 LTC TSA**>Level IV / CONUS High (.30-06 M2AP):/pfg/: Used Protech 2014G or Gilliam 1023Budget: Hesco 4403* (bare minimum)Mid-Range: Hesco 4601* (+ Level III) or surp ESAPI**^ (REV. G-J preferable, adds M995 / 3x M2AP vs 1x)High-End: Hesco 4800(DND), 4800LV^DND, or Protech 9812-R1(DND)Elite: Tencate CXP-800 SA or Ceradyne SOF ESAPI MK.II**^DNDElite-Plus: Ceradyne SAEC**DND(??)>Level IV+ / CONUS Extreme (Various)Budget: Protech 2230 (fast M2AP, $300/set used)Budget-Tungsten: Gilliam 8002 (.300 Winmag Swiss P AP)Mid-Range: Adept Colossus (7.62x51 Swiss P) or REV. C XSAPI**^ (M993)High-End: Rev. D XSAPI**^ (M993+)Elite: ECSAPI** (M993)Elite-Plus: Ceradyne 96034** (7.62x51 Swiss P)
>>65114655>tf the hotdog has a fuse?I WILL buy a spectical viking helmet!
Threadly reminder that RMA sucks.
>>65114699and I will buy a shitload of Vapcell N41s for my various electronics. You heard me! I was too quick to rec the 4,000mAh Vapcell N40. I won't make the same mistake with the 4,050mAh Vapcell N41!
>>65114655Wait what the fuck is Leto Atreides doing at the supermarket?
>>65114708>50 mA edge You will make it!
>>65114717Listen up. That extra 50mAh provides six minutes more of battery life with an NVG-30 I bought from an airsoft kid for sixty bucks who bumped into a staircase with it and got a concussion.
>>65114655i found some vintage 80s and 90s vests and gear in a storage container a guy left me, i think he served in bosnia. where is a good resource for how to set up the vests etc?and is there a list of the better m16 mags by manufacture? or is this the wrong general
>>65114743>and is there a list of the better m16 mags by manufacture?PMAGs are based. GI steel mags are based. Promag is cringe.>i found some vintage 80s and 90s vests and gear in a storage container a guy left me, i think he served in bosnia. where is a good resource for how to set up the vests etc?Do you have pictures of the vests? I'm curious if any of them have old school plates because that's another ballgame on top of the vests.>or is this the wrong generalThis is /gq/. Anything goes.
Oh boy, another faggot OP. Keeping the tradition alive!
>>65114743>better m16 mags by manufactureThe HK AR mags are the best I've ever seen. They literally glide on ball bearings and baby seal grease, now at $70/ea from RTG.
>>65114752>Do you have pictures of the vests?when i said vests i didn't mean plate carriers but the webbing vests that you attach all your gear to like mag pouches, canteens, kits etc. i've got an H one and a Y one i guess. >>65114775i don't think i found those, one was made by Okay industries and i thought that was a funny name. also a random single g3 mag.
>>65114764OP is always a faggot. This has been true since the very beginning.
Like always, Gilliam has a new plate. Introducing the Gilliam 6002. It's $300 a pop, 5lb as of today, 1.15" thick as of today, multi-curve, and rated for NIJ RF2 + M855A1. It is $100 cheaper than an LTC 19513 and slightly lighter, but only rated for the easier .07 drop test and 3x 7.62x51mm M80 versus the harder .06 drop test and 6x 7.62x51mm M80. They both have the same A1 rating. This splits the difference price-wise almost exactly between the Militech RF2 SiC or a pair of old Protech 2120-5s and the 19513 / Hesco 3411.Seems pretty mid, IMO.
>>65114793Some OP's suck less cocks than others. This OP sucks more cocks than others.
>>65114814Cloaks are based. End of story.
Cheap ass 240x320 50hz thermal alert. Only good has a handheld. Has no holding zero capability if used on a gun.
I found something even more retarded than the Tardigrade mask. BEAR WITNESS... TO THE RIFLE RATED FACE SHIELD.https://execdefense.com/products/rifle-resistant-ballistic-visor/
>>65114873ow my neck
>>65114925It's 3.5lb, so 1.5lb lighter than the Tardigrade only rated for IIIA. It looks like it'll work with a gas mask, so I could see this actually being useful in very niche situations but at the same time what the fuck it's an ergonomic disaster.Situational awareness so far in the shitter it came back out and fukkedyamudda.Armorus Maximus, the First Armor Autist, would be proud.
Alright hang on I figured it out. Buy an XSBI 6x8 and zip tie it to the ballistic visor in >>65114873. This provides single hit M993 protection to the face. The XSBI is 2.5lb, so this means your face is now IV+ M993 rated for only one pound more than the all-steel IIIA Tardigrade.
>>65114563full length Prana Zionsbut I don't get your point, new balance are the white man's sneaker
>>65114979No joke, I switched from a pair of brooks that felt like I was running in heels to a pair of NBs and my mile time dropped by twenty seconds.
>>65114983>felt like I was running in heelsSo tell us more about this feeling, ven did you experience it the first time?
>>65114994It happened when I tried my brooks on for the first time. My heel was like an inch above the rest of my foot. I felt retarded and ashamed. I tried running down the street, but I got tired and my ankles hurt. Then A2's dad A1Grip offered me a $5,000 thermal drone in exchange for a handie and I turned him in to the cops. He shot my cock off with the Requiem and I passed out. The big strong officer in a latex police uniform told me he's currently on the run and is holding Trash and BB hostage in the secret board where all the trips go to die.
>>65115007This all could have been avoided if you made like this 9-9-6 warrior and put an 8x10 Hesco 3611 in a Sabado dickflap.
>>65115020Would it make sense to tether this flap to your thighs with 1/8th inch bungee cord, to reduce dick slap?
>>65115039I wear the larger 10x12 ones on top of a Jinwudun IIIA kilt held up by suspenders, so that's padded out automatically. I think bungee cord would be a disaster or at least making running a pain in the ass. Solution is probably just running some kind of pad between the peenor and the plate if you don't want to commit to a full 360-degree heavy ass setup.
Interesting steel plate I missed for the Ukraine armor infographic. DSTU Class 5, 7mm Armox Advance, rated for 3x 7.62x39mm BZ API or 3x 7.62x54R LPS. Built in trauma pad apparently.It's rare to see a steel plate with BZ API protection, that's usually a sidegrade threat from M855A1. Only steel plates that go higher than this are the 12lb Level IVs you used to be able to get at shady gunshows, 1/2" MIL-46100 or shitty mystery meat alloy. Converted to USD it's $140/set, which is cheap as hell for steel that's actually better than 90% of what's on the domestic US market.Steel armor still sucks in the same way digital NV sucks, don't be fooled. Ukrainians only use this shit out of sheer desperation. They also use digital NV for the same reason. Curious if that bites them in the ass since the Chinese units are all riddled to the gills with display-sharing apps, wifi, and bluetooth.
>>65114816>Cloaks are based. End of story.Or is it the beginning of the story?>InLuke 22:36-38, Jesus says: "...if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy oneJesus himself would advise you to sell your cloak and buy a sword, if you don't have one. I have a sword, therefore it only stands to the reason of The Gospel that I buy a cloak. Now, if I buy one in Arctic MC and add a nice silver fox collar, black chain mail fringe on the hem, a quilted red satin liner, water proofing treatment, and a hidden inside pocket for my new double edged dagger, surely Jesus would approve. You can't do much better that that.
>>65115461So it is written. The armor-piercing, Level V fire and brimstone. Straight from the depths of the AR500 Armor murder basement, where unreleased Level IV steel plates stop .50 BMG FMJ but absolutely destroy the insulation with spall.
>>65115461thats not a sword thats a knife, get yourself to The Steel Source, down the street from that Harley dealership, and get a real blade
>>65115504I'm gonna buy a fucking wizard hat from aliexpress in multicam black!
>>65115504>thats not a sword thats a knifeI have both. Just imagine your cloak billowing in the wind past the back of your hog, face in the Holy Light of God, free.
I'M GONNA BUY A WIZARD HAT ON ALIEXPRESS. FUCK YEAH LET'S GO.WE GOT A PALADIN, A WIZARD, A PHILADELPHIAN, AND A VIKING. NOW I JUST NEED A NAGINATA. SHIT'S LIT MY BROTHERS.
Anyone run a huge fuckoff revolver as part of their kit? I want a Taurus .500 and it has nothing to do with Re9 and my inability to get an Rsh-12.
Got a fun one. I went cruising through the archives and found this ridiculous alleged super plate in 2024. 2x 7.62x51mm M1158 ADVAP protection, standalone, at 4.4lb. M1158 outperforms M993 and therefore this 4.4lb plate magically outperforms 6.5lb XSAPIs and is comparable to, if not outright superior to the Adept Colossus while weighing more than two pounds less.Interestingly enough, it seems to be that Counter Croak vaporware plate called the Bushveld. Evidence is in pic related. Same exact weight, they look very similar, similar language in the website, the website pre-order was just about exactly when the poster said it would be (in the coming months). They both use overseas partners allegedly (Taiwan for Croak).So why isn't the actual plate rated for M1158? Just M2AP and M80A1. Is this some kind of secret turbo model? If so, why the fuck did they post it on /k/?I'll cut the theorizing. The Bushveld has been in pre-order hell since August 2024. A 4.4lb triple-M2AP IV+ is technically impossible with current material science. They claim a proprietary PE composite. A double-hit 4.4lb M1158 plate is outright ridiculous and means pic rel would literally be the best plate of all time by a mile.Counter Croak anon, if you're still around, can we see the test report?
>>65115700Either cheat ringed or nominal sizing shenanigans, call it.Also, on a related note, are there any plates which use a crack arrestor setup similar to Ceradyne imp/act?
I have a synchilla with anzug 03 pants with danner boots and an onward research chest rig with 8 mags and an ifak pouchI love gear and want more but the only thing I can justify is more camo because camo is cool, literally cannot justify a plate carrier or helmet, what’s the point, I’m never going to use it. Even a chest rig was hard to justify but I use it on boar hunts and when fishing. How do you justify thisAlso I want a gorka suit but WHY
>>65114743>>65114752>>65114775>$60 mags >plastic garbage Brownells mags for like $10>>65114781>OkayGood but hard to find right now
>>65116508>>>65114775 (You) #>>$60 mags>>plastic garbageYou have to be able to connect the dots.https://www.robertrtg.com/hk-mr556-hk416-ar15-30rd-5-56mm-223-steel-magazine-newFyi, abt $72us.
>>65114816Is your fur shedding? Asking for a friend.
I’ve been running a qore performance vest with the ice plate, I like it. I don’t have any other point of reference, but it’s easy to put on and take off, and it’s breathable in my configuration. The only thing I dislike is the Velcro on the front plate, I’d rather it be laser cut. It’s not a huge issue, I just need to buy a placard. I may not notice issues as fast however, as ultimately I lean more into a battle belt setup over using my plate carrier I also didn’t realize that 10x12 Kevlar (in my case at least) is harder to move in then the full size BALCS stuff or whatever it’s called used by LE. Not really a complaint, just something I didn’t realize. I get why ppl like shooters cut however
>>65116538Heavy and pointless. Pmags don't stack. Waste of money. Pmag 40s are cool though.
>>65116606>pointless>he said without touching
>>6511660640s suck, annoying going prone and getting them into any pouches, might as well just buy the drum
I present "Bionic Tigerstripe". I will diy a cloak, shits like wearing a sheet. I was a ghost for Halloween one year, so I have a lot of theoretical experience. https://www.ebay.com/itm/265210773530?
>>65114743Brownells the best you can buy rn>>65116538>>65114775An empty HK Steel mag weighs .5lbFor every 2 steel mags on your body you could take an extra 30 rounds in a GI mag. They are a stupid magazine
>>65116751You are afraid to lose them in the field, just admit it.
>>65116748>diyShits easy. I may put in arm holes.
>>65116629I need smooth sensuous items I can grasp and fondle for pleasure, that's why I choose Magpul PMAG Gen3.
>>65116542It did when I initially got it, combed through it and it's fine.>>65115987If you take a Hesco 4800, cut the drop protection, and make it a 9.5x11.5 you're at the 4.4lb mark. I think that's their play. The M1158 protection is straight up bullshit and I think they just shot it with M80A1.If the very lightest quasi-Level IV from Ceradyne is 4lb Swimmer / 4.2lb SAPI M, an M1158 rated XSAPI+ for 4.4lb is an absurd mog. >are there any plates which use a crack arrestor setup similar to Ceradyne imp/act?Plenty. Many pre-2017 ESAPIs use an aluminum crack arrestor. Ceradyne's older SOCOM plates used steel like IMP/ACT. MH3 CQB and SOF ESAPIs also used steel. Hyperion's plates use titanium.
Anyone? Reviews seem positive.
>>65117326Similar 3D printed vent pads.
>>65117326looks like it will pull my hair
>>65117326>>65117335They are printed out of TPU and are indeed squishy. They are more comfortable if you are too stupid/dont want to configure your pads correctly. In terms of heat, they feel about the same as 4D pads ime but its a helmet its gonna be hot. I dont believe any of the head injury related shit they spin because thats super poorly studied/understood and I dont expect chinks or HHV to grasp it.There are some programs to 3d scan peoples heads and then make custom printed latice pads so they can actually integrate air channels and improve upon the design.
>>65117355>I dont believe any of the head injury related shit they spin because thats super poorly studied/understood and I dont expect chinks or HHV to grasp it.Agreed. Behind armor blunt trauma is only just beginning to be well-understood for the torso. The head is still the wild west, especially since the NIJ standard hasn't been updated since the 80s and there's no compliance testing for this stuff.>>65115700So I did some math for the plate here and in theory the 4.4lb 2x M1158 defeat is doable, but it needs to use a B4C-TiB2 strike face and a zylon backer while also being 9.5x11.5. China has all the ingredients but I haven't seen them actually put B4C-TiB2 to plates or use their knockoff Zylon in armor. I also don't think counter croak used those materials because that's far and away beyond a $900 plate. Also Zylon is banned for use in armor products in the US.
>>65117355>They are more comfortable if you are too stupidNoted, thx. Sounds like they were made for me.
>>65117342Be glad you have some. Then just hope you don't have to laser scan your junk for custom dick armor.
>>65117828>me getting ready for them to laser scan my junk
Damn now the Chinese have AI in the shitty 256x192 thermal sensors so they can hallucinate the neighbor's runaway kid into being a deer.
>>65117891Not much difference. They are just phishing data and tracking your movements. I always travel in a pentgram shape mostly to throw off the triple tail, but when they plot my cell phn locations, they say wtf?!? God, I hate commies!
>>65117924I see your 200 IQ play. You're only saying you travel in a pentagram shape because the sentient Majestic 12 AI monitoring this thread will connect your IP to your identity so it thinks it knows your patterns during the future boog.You're throwing it off!
I got some boot gaiters with MOLLE. Gonna stick some 6x8 IIIA panels to see how they work as shin armor and maybe forearm wizard sleeves.
>>65117969Neither confirming or denying. Advancing transit pattern to a 2D dodecahedron and a cream soda..
>>65118054Hot shit. I've heard if you get down to the cave after chugging a 2 liter of fanta you'll find the ghost of Martin Danziger, NIJ director, and he'll give you the secret Level V plate CPL.
>>65118061Where jimmy?
>>65117977>boot gaiters with MOLLENice. I have been dithering over these. The other side is lace up, like a shoe for tensioning. Waxed canvas should keep out dew, thorns and nettles
>>65118070>Yes me lord>Oi is this tha way to cantahberry me lord>I'd love some of those muslims in me mums house me lordAss boots.
>>65118065I dunno. I should really make one of these but for armor memes and conspiracy theories.
>>65116748>"Bionic Tigerstripe"Answer from seller:>1.5M (4'10.25") x 1M x quantityEg: 4'10"x 3M (9'10")= 1 piece. I only want it abt knee length.>>65116792And if I have to seam it nbd. We had a seamstress regular poster, but the racists ran him off. His hands and all, except for the whites of his eyes.https://youtu.be/JOARPYLOujQ?si=UHNfXtNwlS5b1lOg
Made a quick and dirty five-minute iceberg of armor companies based on how autistic you have to be to buy from them.
>>65118070Interesting. Similarly, I need to ask Jinwudun to make some IIIA assless chaps that don't cost a thousand bucks. Guys, c'mon. Combined with the IIIA skirt this would result in both extreme coverage and ergonomic hell.
>>65118155Would you take the gamble on the 4.68lb craigslist plate...
>>65118378You got a 50-50 chance on them either being baller as hell Ceradynes that probably don't work anymore because Zylon, or random ass III+ plates with cheap adhesive that probably went bad a decade ago.Sounds like one of those casinos on the Rez.
>>65116508>Brownells mags for like $10Uh no that was a year ago. $17.50 now.
>>65119010>that was a year ago.The past can be hard to leave behind. Ghillie copers can't into cloak superiority!
>>65119179We're all getting spotted by thermal drones anyway man. Might as well go out in style.>>65118139Based.Also FYI, dude on Tacswap has 2007-era MSAPs for sale, $300/set. Contrary to the listing, these look to be the older BZ API rated version paired with the MSAPI and are not roughly Level IV.https://tacswap.com/post/68f4f2fc2d6ba95179d1aa39Would make for good cheap sides if you're rolling L211s, M210s, heck even PBZSAs.
