Do you know any liberal(ish)/centrist gowners? Gun ownership has the hardcore punisher f150 conservative image but I'm always fascinated the unexpected owner. My uncle was always a total softy bleeding heart, but he has a huge gun collection which blew my mind. Not in a million years would you think he had a gun on him.
>>65115116She's definitely not liberal (not when she's cursing out nigger kikes over her headset) but you wouldn't pick my sister in law as gun owner based on appearance. Elaborate makeup, dyed pink hair, e-girl aesthetic. Basically looks like a young Belle Delphine but she's got multiple guns in her bedroom (all hidden away so her anti-2a parents don't know she has them).
>>65115116>he thinks working class democrats/independents don't own gunsDon't be retarded OP, use common sense.
>>65115116My rule is if I see a Honda Civic without any bumper stickers the owners has a gun.
>>65115116where I live everyone has guns, even the democrats. if only for hunting though.
>>65115116Fuck yamudda
Yeah; me.
>>65115463Are you using that to bump?
>>65115472I am using it tofuck yamudda
>>65115188can i have her number?
>>65115468Didn’t realize I’d already posted in here
>>65115116>Gun ownership has the hardcore punisher f150 conservative imageThat's a retarded boomer or spic that just happens to own a gun but not actually use it or know anything about using one.
>>65115203Lmfao, got me
I'm a progressive that's been voting Democrat for over 20 years. I'm a nerdy dude, too. And I own four guns, two of which I inherited from my OG card-carry union Teamster grandfather. Pic is not one of mine but I really want one.The thing about people on the left who buy/own/carry guns is that they keep their heads down, as the Right has co-oped the 2A community.
>>65115474No, she told me she wants her first time to be special and I'm pretty sure that translates to 'not with anyone that posts in 4chan'.
>>65115116>but he has a huge gun collection which blew my mindnegligent discharge?
>>65115116When I was at the gun range there was a new zealand guy with an Australia accent with a table full of guns wearing a mets hat teaching a native PA guy how to shoot guns. The guy from PA never shot a gun. This guy has like 10 rifles a 10 hand guns laid out.
>>65115900carlooooooooos
Happens a lot in Europe - I know quite a few people who own guns and CC guns and at the same time they're full on Davos 2030 agenda supporters: they want a large authoritarian government to ensure "muh equality", they worry about carbon emissions, they want to accept as many "refugees" as possible, they hate privacy and cash, absolute reddit normies.
>>65115831You blew it with "progressive", dumbass. Reasonable democrats have existed since before your great-grandmother broke her cherry. Nobody expects you to know who this guy is.
>>65115116Lots of people are surprised when they find out I have guns and go hunting. Sometimes they'll say they know it's not my thing when they talk about a gun restoration or something.I'm not a pussy at all, I just make it my business to never talk about them, never brag about my (small) collection etc
>>65115116I knew a libtard woman who was a competitive trap shooter. She only owned expensive shotguns and didn't hunt with them, but acted like they entitled her to an opinion about gun control.
>>65115968You could have said she embarrassed you with less words
>>65115971Embarrassed me how? I shoot real animals, not clay pigeons.
>>65115976Only a jackass makes a big deal about a rich bitch doing trap-shooting. Whatever reason you put that is writing, dimwit, is making you feel bad.
>>65115988I don't care if she enjoys trap shooting. I care that she thinks she "knows about guns" and is entitled to call for banning basically all of them except hers.
>>65115116im brownish and teach martial arts to kids and adults; i've competed across the country and have won numerous awards including some neat big wwf style belts. i used to be a big deal. half the people that find out i carry are surprised since i'm supposed to be mr kung fu and they don't understand shooting someone instead is so much easier / safer / legally advisable.
>>65115116There's an old woman (Im talking like 70s or so) that comes into my liquor store on occasion, very unassuming. She brings fresh vegetables and fruits and eggs for the owner sometimes and we discount her purchases. Apparently she and her husband who I havent met are like best in state competitive shooters who machine their own sports guns at some homeowned manufactory and grow their own food.
>>65115188It's true, I was the headset (it was great)
>>65115926Ew, gross
>>65116004>he can't just bruce lee a guy with a gunLame
>>65115116Decent people who like guns don't make it their entire identity. It's like how "americans" have a bad reputation on the internet. The ones who scream about it are just making up for other deficiencies.Basically if you see a "punisher" anything or a "molon labe" flag or a lot of hawaiian shirts you're looking at a microdick who needs a gun to feel strong
>>65115116I'm a biological female with a stereotypical liberal aesthetic. Dyed hair, kinda punk lolita style, very metropolitan (live in the city, love me a Starbuck and avocado toast.) Also 30 y/o boomer oldfag who was an edgy teenage scenequeen when I started coming to 4chan in 2006, so it's fucking weird to me how many "God, guns & Trump" people have astroturfed this site since the 2016 election tourism. The 4chan I grew up on was mostly moderate left, social outcast weebs who just liked saying the nigger word. Politically I'm kind of centrist and don't subscribe to either party. Hate LGBT idpol stuff, love technology, liberal arts, and care about climate change and war prevention probably more than most issues.Anyway, nobody ever guesses that I not only own guns, but that I have an autistic collection of stuff like HK, FN, Lugers, milsurp snipers, etc. It's a huge challenge to navigate socially, because friends and connections I have in liberal spaces will often freak out and shun me if they find out, and people in conservative spaces usually just don't understand how to treat me like a normal person. I go into gun shops or walk around gun shows and either have people tensing up like I'm a Democrat there for trouble or try to sell me hard on some pink .380 revolver/subcompact and take a "ladies night" pistol course because I must be there for my first and only gun, when I've actually come in to look for the new SCAR or another Luger or something. I honestly don't even know why I like guns so much. Brainwashed by too much media with femme fatales/gun porn while I was growing up, I guess.Usually I'm not very outgoing about this and would rather lurk than post, but I also like to take advantage of opportunities to say that yes, outliers like me exist, because gun and gun culture shouldn't be so utterly monopolized and dominated by one singular demographic. Thanks for listening to my TED talk, and making a thread about something other than muh Ukraine/Iran.
>>65116002the elusive liberal fudd, and a female at that. a truly rare specimen to come across>>65116004My thoughts are that if the situation gets to melee, my situational awareness was lacking"Armed leftist" range day>want to hit the range more now that I have time and money in my 30's>find out friend of a friend has been getting into shooting due to the political climate>tells me he bought a gucchi AR15, fancy furniture, high end glass, plate carrier, MOPP/CBRN gear>got an expensive range membership, going to training classes, hitting the range a lot, started conceal carrying, practicing his draw with one of those timer and accelerometer setups>make plans to go to the nice range he's a member at>he made friends with some "armed leftist" types and invites them along>I get the impression that they are all good at shooting since they talk about their training, gear, range time>giving me advice that seems helpful since I learned boomer plinking at empty cans once a summer at grampa's farm, not tactical operator shit about how to room clear and survive The Collapse>get side by side lanes at the range>brought carry pistol and nugget>only put a few boxes of ammo through the pistol and maybe 50 in the nugget in the last decade>I can see their targets and I'm a little better than them>i guess the practice as a kid paid off>swap lanes to try each other's rifles>I was firing standing unsupported with irons on a rifle made in 1943>they are bench resting with scopes>try gucci AR, only second time ever holding an AR>feels like I can't miss>realize properly zeroed optics are cheating>holes practically touching each other at 25 yards>they struggle to hit paper with my nugget>kicks too hard and so heavy that it it's hard to hold steady>"wow anon, you're a great shot">know that I'm trash since 6in grouping at 25 yards>they just suck even worsethe epic loot drop meme is real
>>65115203what the fuck? i didn’t know this was real
>>65115116yeah
>>65115473This is a janitor, FYI.
>>65117134This is exactly why I practice more fundamentals of shooting rather than paying out of the ass for good gear that does the job for you. Once you perfect your trigger pull, breathing control, and shooting position, you can be a good shot with pretty much any gun. Even one you’ve never shot. My friends call me a boomer for my older collection of mostly iron sights and fixed stocks. But it’s comfy, cheap, and gets the job done.
>>65115203Yeah but you know it’s going to be a Hi point with dented hand loads.
Damn no wonder this place has gone to shit, look at all the mental retards/groomed shooters in this thread.
>>65117124You are my favorite kind of person.
>>65117124>tensing up like I'm a Democrat there for troubleWhat does that mean, do democrats go to gun shows to argue with random people about guns? That sounds like more like something the redscare podcast people would do and since they supported bernie once people would just assume they're "democrats" and not just "annoying shithead attention whores"
>>65115116I'm a liberal in the 18th century aristocratic head-cutting way and I've been a gunfag my whole life.
>>65117204Civics are good cars though, not bottom of the barrel. It's just someone who isn't concerned with showing off.
>>65117330I've seen it personally like two or three times maybe, and one instance I found out about because it forced the fish and game club I was a member of to actually start locking the gate and enforcing visitor rules when they had been pretty relaxed. This was in the middle of nowhere, northern Vermont, so I think it might be worse in a more populated area, but also Vermont is like 75% flatlander transplants from Mass and New York at this point, so maybe we're the ones who have it worse when it comes to this kind of shit. Still, not a common occurrence.
>>65117204not really, on the contrary it'd more likely be another "extremely reliable everymans gun" where they want to buy once, cry once. so the civic guy probably owns a plain jane, factory glock and probably doesn't go shoot very often at all. probably went to shoot it a couple times, but now just sits with their only box of defensive ammo.
>>65117199Every rifle in my safe is discontinued or has a never version out now. Only one has an adjustable stock and only one has glass. >my "safe queen" is an old Remington 760 Game Master>our family name is scratched onto the receiver in grandma's handwriting
>>65115831>the right has coopeted the 2A communityMaybe it's because the dems have tried like hell to curtail our rights for a century. Have they tried not doing that?
>>65117453Democrats are not the reason you can't buy a machine gun
>>65115116James Earl Jones was a major collector.
>>65117557Maybe not, but they are the reason why people in many states can't buy an AR15
>>65115831>as the Right has co-oped the 2A community.It should be no surprise since the left wing rationalization of gun ownership is (typically) different from that of the right, and major left-wing gun clubs, political movements, and militia organizations overtly denounce the 2A. This is not to say that there aren't moderate leftists who are supportive of the 2A/natural law/otherwise principle-based individual gun rights, but guns usually aren't the first, let alone the single issue for them so their feelings are comparatively lukewarm. >>65117557The NFA was drafted and passed under a Democratic government. The Hughes Amendment to FOPA was devised by a Democrat and the House of Representatives was majority Democrat by a large margin. Furthermore, they are the architects of the state AWBs and licensing schemes whose opponents were nearly exclusively Republicans and independents. Republican politicians may be hypocrites at times but the assertion that Democrats do not bear a greater share of responsibility for gun control is completely false and disingenuous.
>>65117717If someone flips from "ban guns/no one needs guns" to "I need a gun to protect my other rights" they are just proving the the 2nd Amendment is the MOST important one on the list since it preserves the ability to retain the rest of them.
>>65116883it just isn't worth the risk, energy, or potential legal trouble>oh you kung fu'd that guy TOO well why didn't you do something else like we see in the movies??>>65117134first step of self defense, don't get in a self defense situation.
>>65117124>The 4chan I grew up on was mostly moderate left, social outcast weebs who just liked saying the nigger word.Awareness of niggers and jews generally steers people to the right.
>>65115203Does the year matter because Ive owned several Civics.
>>65117717>The Hughes Amendment to FOPA was devised by a Democrat and the House of Representatives was majority Democrat by a large margin.Passed by a Republican Senate, signed into law by a Republican president. The same Republican president who banned constitutional carry as governor of California and post-presidency supported AWBs (including the only federal AWB) and the Brady Bill.All a coincidence, I'm sure.
>>65115116I'm a classical liberal who appeciates JS Mill, Bentham etc Locke and I have over 700 firearms. You retards don't even know what Liberalism is.because you area)Retarded unread illiteratesb)Brainwashed by foreigners to hate your own cultures peak achievementsI'll bet you think Liberalism = progressive socialism, that's how thick the current era of Americans are sadly.
>>65117829>Blue team might have passed the most gun legislation and is the most vocal team about outlawing guns, but red team has also passed some anti-gun legislation!>I'm so confused about why most gun owners support the red team over the blue team!>>65117876>classical liberalliberalism has become so divorced from its roots that we can scarcely consider it the same thing as what it was centuries ago, for the same reason we do not consider human beings to be the same as the proto-apes which they evolved from. Terms evolve even as species do, so we must consider the modern definition of Liberalism to be what the word means, despite the contradictory fact that modern liberalism holds liberty to be a very dangerous thing. I would call yourself a Millite instead, although I don't think the mouth breathers are going to understand what that means without explaining it - which still applies to the term "classical liberalism." On Liberty is a good book. Too fucking bad none of its lessons - especially its warning against censorship - were taken to heart by "liberal democracies"
>>65117829Not a refutation of my statement retard. Your rhetoric won't fool anyone. >>65117876Really shouldn't be surprising since Classical Liberalism is the basis of American conservatism and the majority of political rightism in America (though not necessarily true in other countries). That said, for your own sake it might just be easier for you to identify with something else when talking to illiterates. >Brainwashed by foreigners to hate your own cultures peak achievementsHonestly a lot of it is domestic subterfuge.
>>65117890It's not divorced from anything. Go read JS Mills on liberty, Paine, Lock etc and stop being a fool and applying labels like liberalism when you really mean progressive socialism. Liberal democracies are founded on the rights of the individual. Including the USA. If you don't like that fuck off to Moscow or China.
>>65117914>Really shouldn't be surprising since Classical Liberalism is the basis of AmericanIt's the basis of the US consitution and every sucessful, victorious, wealthy, innovative nation with rule of law and free speech on earth an if you are religious consider this, it prevents those who are religious from state persecution.
>>65117572Pretty sure he was a Republican though
>>65117971Regardless of political affiliation, what's more surprising is the size of his collection and what he had in it. He was a Luger collector and also had weird stuff like a 7.92 Kurz NY compliant AR
>>65117572I SHOOT 10MM!
>>65115932Blew what, ya fuckin autist>>65115116There's a socialist rifle association so there's plenty of lefties around. The only Dems actually against 2a are privileged neoliberal shits with no life experience outside of their bubble.
>>65118128>The only Dems actually against 2a are privileged neoliberal shits with no life experience outside of their bubble.So, most of them
>>65118128The SRA does not endorse the 2A and many if not most chapters overtly denounce it. Their basis for gun ownership is collective rather than individual and for the purpose of class warfare.
>>65115203That’s because the clapped out Honda Civic used to be the de facto weed dealer bro car. They always own a $500ish dollar pistol too because one or two of their friends told them stories about getting robbed by their connect kek.>>65117330Seen it. It’s very common in larger cities for protestors and lefty influencers to try to make a point for clicks.>>65117557They are the reason many people cannot buy anything that holds more than 10 rounds which for practical and logistical reasons is much worse.>>65117572Based>>65117717All facts. I will say that one of the best things about Trump and the general failures of the Democrats to address homelessness, drug addiction, mental illness, and crime is that a shit ton of democrats have become much more gun friendly. Pew research did a poll on it and democrats that have a gun in the home has increased, democrats that would own a gun in their home has increased, democrats that feel safer with a gun in their home has increased, and democrats that feel safer with a gun in their home with children has increased. We’re looking at 2A and home defense being like a 65-70% win. They actually think we’re living under a Nazi occupation and so many of them have been victimized by gangs and vagrants that even if they can’t acknowledge the blatant truth staring them in the face as to WHY they feel unsafe they do in fact have some basic level of survival instinct. The issue is they just don’t prioritize these issues above shit like abortion, single payer health care, and tranny worship. A few more race riots should fix that.
Yeah my cousin is an actual deranged schizophrenic tranny communist that owns a small arsenal for le heckin revolution. He was sexually abused pretty severely by his viola instructor as a kid. He went from a straight A, hockey stud, we were all sure was going to go to an Ivy League school to doing heroine and he’s been arrested at least once for diddling a kid but he beat the charges. He was involved in those riots in KC where the pallets of bricks magically appeared six blocks away from the construction site down by the art school. Nobody in our family talk to him anymore but we check in on his social media every once in a while and thankfully he seems to be past his furry phase and is predominantly just self harming and doing downers now.
>>65115116I'm a librul/centrist type and have more leftist friends than myself, some of whom outshoot me. We all like guns and I don't think it's that weird
