Can rotor-wing forward operating bases be reasonably secured against leisurely, meandering loitering munition strikes?
Would this be the place for air defense to do something?
>>65116770It was. Furiously masturbating.
>>65116770Chair foundCuckold statusSlowly edging
>>65116770No because then air defense would shoot down the helicopters
>>65116770A slow drone loitersAbove in the big blue skyCuckold masturbates
>>65116770Smacked into the BunsLike CocksIn the Ass
These last 2 months Ukrainian drones are almost flying freely. A year of hitting stuff like PantSIR and strela 10 is taking a toll on Russia
>>65116758They had time to set up a little concrete guard shack to watch over the FOB but didn't bother to give them a Kord or a KPV?
>>65116758>>65116826the speed these things are going you could shoot them down with a fucking pistol.
>>65116826Russian armed forces is a small budget boutique operation, please undastand
>>65116826You might also question the ladas parked next to the fuel truck
>>6511683912.7 and 14.5mms cost least than individual sneeds, are they just not making HMGs anymore? If that is the case Kim has wares available...
>can't even have a FARP in peace anymorefucking drones
>>65116866Ha, hadn't noticed that. One would presume the FOB is garrisoned in some way since the fuel hasn't been stolen, i would think there should be half a dozen guys and those were slow enough that small arms might work. Surely you aren't suggesting that the mobniks of duty were inattentive, slacking off or even dare i say it drunk do you?
>>65116758Yes, and all it takes is non-slavshit tier radar and the sorts of AA guns that every NATO army has been pouring research funding into for years now. >tl;dr, it helps when your air defence actually has the tools to defend the air.
>>65116758>150km deep inside Russia with this quality footage and objective control from surveillance drone That's quite impressive
>>65116758drones are gaythat is all
>>65116807Very honorabu.
>>65116913Id Argue that's almost overkill. Those things are barely going faster than running pace, so a single half drunk Buryat with a heavy machine gun could have shot it down.
>>65116913Those drones could have been stopped by a guy with a swivel mounted LMG if he was paying attention, it goes much deeper than a lack of modern AA.
>>65116758they did not seemingly burst into flames. can the damage like this be fixed by two guys with a concrete mixer and a new engine, or are the frames fucked up nethertheless?
>>65116758Source for the original:https://files.catbox.moe/exdagh.MP4>SBS birds hunted and hit two enemy helicopters Mi-28 and Mi-17 in the Voronezh region of the Russian Federation, 150 km from LBZ. >The field runway in a depth of more than 150 km from LBZ with four Mi-28 and Mi-17 helicopters, which carried out operational refueling and inter-flight technical inspection, was visited by a flock of small, but freedom-loving Ukrainian SBS birds. >The defeat was carried out by the pilots of the combined crews of the 429th Achilles Brigade and the 43rd Brigade, in a jointly developed operation with the Central Military Unit "A" on April 29 on the territory of the Voronezh region, Russia. >The lesions are inflicted in the rear central part of the engine compartment, bypassing the blades of the main propeller. >As a result of the strike, at least one of the helicopter maintenance specialists who hit the drone's eye was destroyed. >To be continued... https://t.me/robert_magyar/2283
>>65116833>the speed these things are going you could shoot them down with a fucking pistol.That's not quite true according to a recent UaMoD post.picrelAlso, not only are defence suppliers now competing with each other to provide the fasters, furthest range on their drones (MoD holds try-outs with bigboy EW and speed/distance/payload scoring systems but winners get rapid battle-testing and production) but Sternenko used his fanbase of TZD moderates to fund the development of a secret new project.It's probably just a vampire with a starlink and a solar panel or something but you get the idea, EW can only be in some cases and it takes resources to set up and run and it's easily detected so it has to be defended too.Now Ukraine has drone connectivity potentially anywhere and can strike well behind enemy lines where there's no constant EW.
>>65116983>if he was paying attentionyou are retarded if you think that you'd notice those drones in time with just the mark 1 eyeball
>>65116913As Iran shows you have to be prepared gor volume and have enough stuff.
>>65117000>>65116994Ukraine uses MGs and eyeballs to shoot down drones moving faster on a daily basis, the first one shows 20 seconds of flight time and would have been visible to an attentive crew for at least 60. Might work, might not work. The issue is Russia isn't even trying. A NATO, Asian or even 1980's Soviet force would have had at a few MGs and a guy with a MANPAD scanning the horizon 24/7, Russia's tactical Commanders are so incompetent and/or demoralized that they aren't even making obvious token efforts. It is obvious that this is a force whose members are already convinced that they have lost and can't find the motivation to try and reverse it or even slow it down. This is a textbook example of the sort of sloppiness and inattention to basic security you see in a force on the verge of collapse.
>>65117030>Ukraine uses MGs and eyeballs to shoot down drones moving faster on a daily basisYou're conflating different types of drones, my retarded Nork obsessed friend. Those "mobile fire groups" target waves of automated pre-configured shahed drones, which are detected ahead of time by radar and other systems and then taken down by various means: MANPADS, machine guns, missile and auto-cannon based SHORAD systems and such. Just a few guys with a machine gun are way less effective without a system which would keep them all notified about how many drones and where they are moving right now. The drone fucking up those helicopters are basically of the ruslim Lancet type drone: it's controlled, way more quiet and way harder to detect.
>>65117030>Ukraine uses MGs and eyeballs to shoot down drones moving faster on a daily basisIf you mean shaheds then those are much bigger and much louder and are acoustically (if treetop) or radar (if 5-20km altitude) fixed well before arrival.If you mean FPVs in general then they miss a whole bunch too, friendlies die from drones too. Ukies morale is much higher though for many obvious reasons though, including what you suggest.>the first one shows 20 seconds of flight time and would have been visible to an attentive crew for at least 60. They're tiny, very hard to spot in the air and they're coming in hot because the observation drone is a long way off and impossible to notice and so the attack pilot knows his course before he can see his target clearly and can gun it.They can be made a bit quieter too, you'll notice that we haven't seen the props on ukie FPVs in a long time.>Russia isn't even trying. A NATO, Asian or even 1980's Soviet force would have had at a few MGs and a guy with a MANPAD scanning the horizon 24/7,They didn't know that FPVs could target 150km behind the front.This is a new tactical doctrine that has just been announced with this exact post: >>65116987It was teased at about a month ago and there was a big fundraiser on Sternenko for a secret weapon that he promised would kill a lot of Russians. He closed that fundraiser after a few days with the goal reached and promised results would come soon.I think we're seeing the first results now.>Russia's tactical Commanders are so incompetent and/or demoralized that they aren't even making obvious token efforts.>this is a force whose members are already convinced that they have lost and can't find the motivation to try and reverse it or even slow it down. >the sort of sloppiness you see in a force on the verge of collapse.Whilst all of that is clearly true, you should remember that Russia has always been on the point of collapse.They're adapted to it and anticipate it.
>>65117030You are looking at the survivability onion the wrong way. The real issue here is that the Ukrainians can fly around with fixed-wing reconnaissance drones deep within Russian territory. You are so focused on "don't be hit" that you forget about the much more important "don't be detected".The Ukrainians had very similar issues about two years ago, when Russians would fly their Orlans 70km behind the front line. Of course they didn't use FPVs as the strike element, they used ballistic missiles, but we saw several hits on FARPs that looked identical to this. The Ukrainians eventually got better at shooting down the recon drones and increased dispersion, which is probably what the Russians will do in the coming months.Also I bet there is some very interesting signalling stuff going on here. The observer drone might function as a relay/mothership for the smaller FPVs
>>65117098>survivability onion
>>65117059>They didn't know that FPVs could target 150km behind the front.Point of order; yes they do and for more than a year. Besides SF operations and partisans solar recharging drones that charge while lurking on the ground have been progressively creeping further and further back for quite some time. If i am not misremembering that is what bonked my beloved Koksans with VOGs a while back. This is just basic site security. Even if it only helps a fraction of the time (or the security gets targeted instead) it is worth it; MGs and Mobniks are cheap and easily replaced. Those helicopters are not. It is basic SOP, especially when you might very well see a drone going by at a different target.How many cell phone clips have we seen where soldiers with rifles just stand there filming a low level Cessna type drone just glide on by into a target? If you have enough time to pull out your phone, select film mode and get 30 seconds of footage at something a few hundred feet away you had plenty of time to shoot at it. It never even occurs to these people even though that is what anyone else would do. Where i live if we were at war half the civilians i know would be whipping out hand guns and taking pot shots. Hell, half the town would be spending their days on the roof with shotguns. They don't even try and their Command can't be bothered to tell them to, even ignoring the moral issues of the war being right or wrong such a pathetic 'people' doesn't deserve victory or even existence.
>>65116758He should have left the chopper blades spinning to block the drone from above
>>65117113>>65117098Their survivability onion is non-existent, apparently that is too advanced a concept. Perhaps they could ask their allies to teach them the mysteries of the survivability potato?
>>65116770
>>65117113Russian Survivability Onion>Don't get conscripted.>Oh, shit, you got conscripted, sorry bro. >At least your family are probably going to get some Putin Funbucks or whatever after you're gone.>Better than nothing I guess.
>>65116758https://youtu.be/s8wxsUv_2vg?t=6
>>65117059>>65117000>>65116983>>65116972https://youtu.be/aoHOVUKOc0M?t=290
>>65117167That one is outdated, the new Russian survivability onion is>Don't get raped>Don't get conscripted>Don't get raped>Don't get sent to Ukraine>Don't get raped>Don't get sent to frontlines>Don't get spotted while getting raped>Don't get droned>Don't get Lada
>>65116823they spent the last few months destroying lots of AA systems, whatever's left is assigned to guarding Moscow and Putin's mansion hence the uptick in attacks against oil infrastructure
>>65116770>place for air defenseRecently, additional unit of Pantsirs was transfered to guard permiter around Putin's residence raising the total number to 27(!).Does this field look like Putin's mension to you?
>>65117306Considering that Putin's mansion is one of the most expensive single assets in Russia there's an economic sense to that.
>>65117325>Considering that Putin's mansion is one of the most expensive single assets in Russia there's an economic sense to thatIt's not that ridiculous one in Sochi, it's (one of )the northern one(s).There's a family ranch on an island in a lake or something too but that's where his kids live these days I think.The palace is another one in the north but the information on putin's palaces isn't well disseminated, probably because fsb sics their FurFag hackers on wherever it's published while actual sleeper agents try to infiltrate their organisations and get it lost in the system and deleted.>Recently, additional unit of Pantsirs was transfered to guard permiter around Putin's residenceDo you think Ukraine keeps probing those defences?We never hear reports of drone attacks on those places, from either side.
>>65117362>Do you think Ukraine keeps probing those defences?Does Ukraine have a single reason not to at this point? They've got ammunition production and supplies at a level where they've got the drones to burn, and . . . well . . . they only need to get lucky once.
>>65117379it's not a valuable target
>>65117379>Does Ukraine have a single reason not to at this point?No but it's just the absence of news or even propaganda, from either side. That has me wondering whether I'm noooticing or just mildly intrigued by the absence of data.We see maps with the paths of drones on them and targets all over western Russia but the palaces are never marked and I don't recall any drone arrows pointing in those areas.As for who's paying for and increasingly building the drones before selling them to Ukraine who pays with money loaned for effectively free, from the country selling the drones; this is a cheap payback for how much Russia has fucked with Europe over the years.No reason not to, just surprised I've heard nothing about it.
>>65117397>it's not a valuable targetEh, sites with the necessary communications and fortifications to serve as a wartime command centre aren't that common and the ones with the pomp and luxury to satisfy a dictator are even less so.The less places Putin has to choose between, the easier it is to track him and eventually target him.Just pinning him down or boxing him in, could be worth quite a lot some day.
>>65117406>Just pinning him down or boxing him in, could be worth quite a lot some day.Or as someone once said:>If your quarry goes to ground...https://youtu.be/d2VjrePhpEE?t=9
>>65117406those mansions are pure ego bullshit and have zero value in practice, if SHTF Putin will be more likely holed up in a bunker underneath Yamantau than a open-air targetit's simply more efficient and helpful for Ukraine to keep attacking lone ziggers on the frontline and unprotected oil terminals/refineries, it impedes Russia's ability to keep the war going and also brings down morale (see how random Russians reacted on the Internet to oil spills in Tuapse for instance)
>>65116770Ah yes, the infamous Puccian air defence.
>>65117397Imagine the shame and humiliation on Putin's face when the news breaks that Ukraine has firebombed his personal, private, palace. Sure, it doesn't affect the actual conduct of the war directly, but there's targeting priorities outside of that. >war is a continuation of politics by another means
>>65117424>war is a continuation of politics by another means>all politics are either personal, or they can be made personal
>>65117424while it would be indeed very funny, Ukraine's top priority is kneecaping Russia's economy and attacking its backbone (oil and gas) is far more impactful than making monke butthurt
>>65117427>Ukraine's top priority is kneecaping Russia's economy and attacking its backbone (oil and gas) is far more impactful than making monke butthurt>>What have you learnt of warfare?>Control the field, control the fight.>>And how does one achieve this control?>Control the fear, control the field.>>And of politics?>Know the motive, know the man.
>>65117041>Just a few guys with a machine gun are way less effective without a system which would keep them all notified about how many drones and where they are moving right now.surely you can spare a DShK or a quad maxim mount on a truck for your helicopter FARP? even if the first one gets through unnoticed they can at least shoot at follow-up ones
>>65117141>Where i live if we were at war half the civilians i know would be whipping out hand guns and taking pot shots. Hell, half the town would be spending their days on the roof with shotguns.it's worse than that, the russians have had the opportunity to observe the ukrainians do exactly that every single day for like 3 years now
>>65116758YIKES are FARP aviation mechanics easily replaceable? that's basically one less mechanic permanently for the entire war. i imagine there can't be that many of those people to go around in snow nigeria.
>>65117464You'll want to save this record scratching moment: >>65116987
>>65117041>>65117438My point was no matter how inefficient using eyeballs and MGs is it is better than nothing. Every state military on earth has SOP for setting up a position like this, none of them are 'two techs, a couple of ladas and an empty guard shack in a field' They aren't doing the most basic procedure.
>>65117482yeah I agree in >>65117438helicopters are expensive enough you can probably spare a lookout with some MGs in an AA swivel even if they don't have a very high PK. in this case a lookout or two with any machine gun would've had a decent chance of saving 1-2 helicopters
>>65117482>They aren't doing the most basic procedure>>65117489>you can probably spare a lookout with some MGs in an AA swivel even if they don't have a very high PKI can't believe you're asking this question.
>>65117427Getting the enemy commander into a headspace where he's more likely to make retarded decisions (that can be used against him) is a valid and well accepted military goal in and of itself.
>>65117526I remember reading somewhere that after the Unconditional Surrender Declaration the US convinced the UK to actively work to PREVENT any assassination attempts against Hitler because they couldn't think of a likely replacement who would be more incompetent than him.
>>65117540On one hand, Medvedev is basically a carbon copy of Putin's objectives and opinions. On the other, if Monke croaks I don't think he'd be able to convince Russia to continue the war.
>>65117550>Medvedev is basically a carbon copy of Putin's objectives and opinionsI think the relationship is that Medvedev would be Petrov's puppet and Putin/Petrov are symbiotic/master-slave sort of pair.Certainly little would change though the superficial aspects could be quite different. Medvedev might play the PM mentor to a President Petrov Jnr or something like that.
>>65117558>>65117550The problem any leader after Putin has is, if the war is still going on they inherit it. And sure, they MIGHT be able to convince the Russian population and elites that it was a fools errand from a senile madman and they're actually being patriotic by ending it and falling back to 1991 borders (apart from Crimea, they MUST keep hold of Crimea), but if they don't they're dead and windowed faster than you'd believe. I wouldn't like that chance myself. Secondly, and I've already touched on it, no Russian leader can countenance giving up Crimea without a fight. And no Ukrainian leader can give up their claim to it. So someone looking to make peace has to square that diplomatic circle.To me these are the most plausible reasons why Monke is still in charge, although I could be wrong. Maybe Prigozhin could have done it if he succeeded in his coup.
>>65117558>>65117550>MedvedevFrom his twitter posts he is the only person in Russia dumber and more reckless than Putin, i doubt he would be able to maintain power long enough to do something retarded like launch a nuke. The only potential leader i can think of who is halfway competent already has his own country and if by some strange accident of history Lukashenko ended up in charge he would immediately end the war.
>>65117589>Lukashenko>Half Way CompetentWhat did Anon mean by this?
>>65117191>Don't get Lada
>>65117589>From his twitter posts he is the only person in Russia dumber and more reckless than PutinThen you fell for the act.That's his role in the clique, he capers and jests for the bydlos and mocks Putin's enemies so that they know they're still on the shit list but he's harmless and sometimes takes the blame for shit that Putin fucked up.He's survived and prospered this long at the top of the Moscow food-chain, don't assume he's actually a buffoon. He's just weaker than Putin.If he's allowed to act like an adult again, he could be quite the wise mentor to a Petrov Jnr. Not that he'd need one with his father coaching him on but there's a public political mentor role to played that conveys legitmacy, in addition to the private one by his father's name, both messages are heard in Russia.
>>65117615His decisive actions in this war indicate a moderate level of strategic thought.
>>65117628>His decisive actions in this war indicate a moderate level of strategic thought.However; it's his indecisive actions that command respect from the truly wise.
>>65117627This, Medvedev was pretty close to being the no.2 in Russia until the 2012 protests. monke perceived his reforms as a failure and so he got demoted from the top post but since he was competent and still loyal he's allowed an auxiliary role in the court. He strikes me as the smartest member of the court. This of course precludes him from ever becoming Tzar because Rugandans hate anyone with admirable traits, no matter how slight they may be
God I hate how fucking gay and boring and lame drones are.It's like ruining a finely tailored suit by getting spaghetti sauce on it. It was made with a great deal of effort and care only to be ruined by slop.
>>65117632By 'decisive action' i was of course referencing his well thought out decision to do absolutely nothing but plant potatoes for half a decade while he thought things over. In chaotic times like this a steady hand (on the rake) isn't a bad thing, his people could have much worse. Ignoring Putin's requests to take an active part in the war takes something resembling moral courage, as dictators go he is relatively mild and seems to have some level of actual concern about his people.
>>65117664>he is relatively mild and seems to have some level of actual concern about his peopleHe had rape squads using sexual torture on protestors.Quite a few died of torture or beatings or rape with objects.Quite a few just disappeared.And everyone who said anything about it got locked up too.He's just as bad as the rest of them.
>>65116823And they still have Russian infantry all over their land.Classic Slavic victory. >>65116890>fucking dronesYes, everything has to be retarded and gay now.Cool shit like attack helicopters and tanks are just targets for faggots who couldn't do a push up or shoot a rifle at 50 yards to save their lives.Even the anti-faggotdrone technology will be lame and gay, unless it's some kind of wicked chain gun, but that would be too cool, so it's off the table immediately.
>>65116758dang. i hoped the helis would blow up into nice fireballs. ziggroids can still fix them
>>65117682>ziggroids can still fix themNeither of those helis are ever flying again and most likely burnt to ash anyway.
Belarus should become an EU protectorate, like Kosovo. I want Minsk to become an extension of Brussels for at least a generation.
>>65117438>surely you can spare a DShK or a quad maxim mount on a truck for your helicopter FARPyou can't do that with one, you need at least a couple groups like thateach group needs at least 3 people to handle working shifts in 24/7each group needs supplies and support, housing and so onin the end it's a ton of people and logistics, which don't exist: if you take them out from the front lines, you'll collapse the frontlines
>>65117670Not to sound insensitive but isn't that just normal life in the former USSR besides the Baltic States? From everything i've read there is less of it there than the average in most former Soviet states. It may sound harsh but as people who are almost Russians history seems to indicate this is as good as it gets besides brief Gorbachev periods that lead to something worse
>>65117676>they still have Russian infantry all over their landFor each Russian infantryman standing on it, there are several fertilising it. A country with a fertility rate of 1.37 has sent a million men to give their lives to help grow better Ukrainian sunflowers in future seasons. So generous.
>>65117693For a small FOB you would want a platoon but it could be done with two squads and a officer and....Russia has a monthly deficit of hundreds of platoons worth of troops and none of the replacements have any training so the ones that do would be needed to secure support areas so...I concede the point, they just don't have the guys competent to do the job. Hmmm...Hire more troops? 3 squads for each minor Depot/FOB, unlike Russians they have to be rotated so 2x=6000 Norks to secure a mere 100 sites plus they need full equipment and food...No way Russia can afford that either. They are fucked, the droning will continue unopposed.
>>65117692No Belarusian woman will touch your brown pecker even if that happens, Ranjeet.
>>65116987How quiet are these drones where the guy only noticed it a second before he got blown up?
>>65117749hard to say not knowing the BAC of the soldiers present
Blades barely wobble, the same as America hitting those "helicopters" in Iran.These are fake helicopters painted on the ground
>>65117798It was genius for the Russians to put a fake guy on a ladder so it looked like he was working on the fixed-wing aircraft.
>>65117880Inflatable dummy with a little motion activated swivel for the head so it 'looks' as the drone comes in, fools them every time.Wait a moment, that would actually work wouldn't it?
>>65117682>gets hit in most sensitive area imaginable for a helicopter >thinking its can still flyNah, at best they'll get put on a flatbed and towed to a repair station where they will sit for months to years if they aren't immediately set aside for spare parts
>>65117397It is if putin is there
Really the greatest effect Ukraine can have on Russian AD is precisely to keep Putin as paranoid as possible, but never actually strike it with assassination as an objective. Just occasionally poke the estates with a drones/missile to keep them on their toes and tie up AD on useless mansions.Every piece of AD protection Putin's various shit houses is AD that's not protecting critical infrastructure & military targets. Much more valuable than actually murking the monke imo.
>>65117362>The palace is another one in the north but the information on putin's palaces isn't well disseminated58.0117857, 33.3164350
>>65116758After seeing what happened at Kherson airportNo
>>65116758Its a serious argument against big helicopters. Don't buy a helicopter that can't be APU motored or at least pushed into a garage at this point. The helicopter personnel in the picture should be on the same page they are likely to be sent to the front line now.
>>65118384>are likely to be sent to the front line now.doubt it, russia still needs aircraft mechanics
So what i'm hearing is:>Russia doesn't have Nork tier numbers of AA guns>Russia is too big to have enough trained people to do basic site security>Don't even have 1000+ 14.5mm batteries>Russia has lost so many trained troops that it is impossible for them to do low level AA training>Russia can't incorporate low level AD into their basic training>Russia is in a AA death spiralServes them right, Russia was stupid to not have a 14.5mm density equal to 250K KPVs for an area equal to Alabama or Mississippi. What were they thinking?
>>65116770What do you mean cumrat? These helos *were* the air defence.
>>65118548>250K KPVs250k 14.5mm barrels not individual KPVs, i have done the math for it. It is maddening once you get into the details of it.
>>65116758Rotogger btfo
>>65118439Now they can be 'Assault Aircraft Mechanics'That does sound pretty cool doesn't it!
>>65117710>isn't that just normal life in the former USSR besides the Baltic States?Being as bad as the USSR is pretty bad.
>>65117749>How quiet are these drones where the guy only noticed it a second before he got blown up?If you look closely, a pilot heard it slightly earlier and legged it and probably survived.Clearly loud enough for someone working on a helicopter to turn their head at the last second or two and it's coming in at high speed which is somewhere between 150-200kmh.These are pilots and mechanics, not mobiks...they probably don't have the instinctive fear of droning sounds hammered into them yet (some of them do now).
>>65118066>58.0117857, 33.3164350>2868+PH7 Roshchino, Novgorod Oblast, RussiaI prefer Plus-Codes because they tell you where stuff is before you look it up.I didn't say that it didn't exist, just that there isn't a nice coherent list on Wikipedia, they just have one or two and when I google lists, I get things that are very out of date and that usually assume the Sochi one is operational which I don't believe it is.What is that mini runway? It looks like it's meant to be a runway but it's about 80m long at most. Even the lightest business jet usually needs 1km or so.There's an actual helipad to the north-east of it so it's not just a generous landing pad for helos.
>>65118710Some UAVs can take off from them. In the FDF we had target planes take off from a sand strip next to the ocean for 12.7mm ITKK training, wasn't more than 50m long from what I recall. (Lohtaja niggas know)
>>65118704The fun part of a winged drone would be cutting the motor down to an idle or off and then coasting in the last half kilometre or so>Surprizee!
>>65118548That's the thing Norktard, Puccians aren't known for thinking that far ahead ever since the So yviet Onion went under.
>>65118714>Some UAVs can take off from themMaybe that's part of perimeter defence?Maintaining an overwatch of some observation drones?Russia doesn't have strike drones like a predator with a hellfire does it?
>>65118721https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kronshtadt_Orion
>>65118728>Kronshtadt_OrionSeems like that would do the job.
>>65117892recently declassified footage of elite Spetnaz soldier operating latest Russian decoy device (NATO reporting name: "Filthy Animal")
>>65118717I know that, it is just disappointing somehow. I'm old enough that i watched the first Space Shuttle blow up on live TV and watched President Reagan do the speech afterwards. I sort of remember Pat Buchanan as the White house press guy. I was raised to fear the USSR, i did duck and cover drills as a kid. Russia has turned into such a disappointment for me, why were we ever afraid of these people?
>>65118757they had Ukrainians and half of Germany on their side
>>65117580If Russia was wiling to withdraw to 1991 border but keep Crimea I think Ukraine would take it but refuse to recognise Crimea, which Russia would happily accept because they love having disputed territory in their control, like Odessa and Trannynistia
>>65118761I know! They were so scary or so they seemed and then there was nothing, it all just fell apart and we found out they had jack shit. I remember us sending them food aid and Pepsi using part of the Soviet Fleet as collateral for loans, how did they keep up the joke for so long? And now they want to fight us? They are so fucking stupid, just ask a middle aged Russian what they call a big chicken drumstick and everyone will know everything.
>>65118775нoжки Бyшa
>>65118762>Russia would happily accept because they love having disputed territory in their control, like OdessaWhen have they controlled Odesa?
>>65118785>>65118790Whilst I appreciate the sentiment, could you keep the political point scoring in /pol/?Or at least wait for an actual zigger thread to post them in for lulz before it gets deleted.
New anti-drone ammo just in. From the Russian side, reposted by Ukrainian sources.>The enemy is testing a "blinding" shotgun case designed to cover the camera lens of FPV drones with a color mixture that hardens quickly on the lens, making it opaque.
>>65118803https://t.me/ButusovPlus/29001
>>65118803>effective at the range where accurate hit won't matterMore anti-drone cope to make the mobik feel better.
>>65117113missing>don't let the balls touch
>>65118803This has to be a fucking troll, that is so retarded I can't believe even ziggers would buy that shit. Though if it's not, I'm looking forward to seeing ziggers getting covered in it in the slightest breeze (because you know those drunk fucks piss up wind too) before getting pasted into the same kind of fine red mist by the drone.
>>65117670>He's just as bad as the rest of them.Hey now, let's not ignore the subtle nuance between various levels of rape.
>>65118803>blind one drone>become eyefuckingly colorful shape instantly spotted from miles away
>>65118803>2026>paintball gunsI don't think you want to be that close to the FPV's considering some don't need to actually hit people to go off
>>65118803...you know, it honestly doesn't seem like that bad of an idea, provided it actually sticks to the camera lens. It looks like it could also double as a short-lived general-purpose colored smoke grenade, for flagging down evac vehicles and such.
>>65118803honestly can't see this being more effective than just shooting it with an assault rifle
>>65118757>Russia has turned into such a disappointmentThey were always subhuman mongoloid colonian empire, which robbed 20% of the world to prop up its retarded empire and its projects.
>>65118762>withdraw to 1991 border but keep CrimeaCrimea is the reason for all of their initial successes in the 2022 invasion. It's a Damocles sword above Ukraine's head.
>>65118811>>65118818>>>65118803 (You)>This has to be a fucking troll, that is so retarded>>65118823>>65118827>>65118831>>65118832I like to think of it as an ink cloud defence mechanism for easily startled prey animals.
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>>65118803>Blinds self while firingIf you're that close to the drone, you're fucked even if you manage to hit the drones camera (doubt you will though)
>>65117716More Russian women for meThere have to be at least some that don't have STDs
>>65116758"Yup, that's me. You're probably wondering how I ended up in this situation..."
>>65118751>NATO reporting name: "Filthy Animal"lost