>liquid powered ramjet>mach 3.5 speed>150km range>3.5m cep>cost only 52kNow that's revolutionary
>>65121203>3.5m cepIn optimal conditions* that will never exist under the kind of warfare where this weapon system is useful.
>>65121658Yes, because American guided weapons are known for their poor accuracy in real world conditions.
>>65121667yes the industrial American military complexes ar renown for accuracymany blue on blue, many dead school children, USS LIBERTY
>>65121706We hit that school with pinpoint accuracy.
>>65121203>cedar bushes, aka Utah juniper, aka shagy bark juniperWhat test range is this?
>>65121712>many Bothans died
>>65121713>aka Utah juniper, aka shagy bark juniperAka white cedar. Forgot one.
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>>65121706they're calling it the brownest post of all time
>>65121706I mean they hit the target. The target just happened not to be an enemy. I'm not sure this is the 'own' you think it is.
>>65121667Have you not been following the Ukraine conflict?GPS jamming is rampant and severely affects the accuracy of American guided weapons.
>>65121752It was specifically M982 that was having problems. M982A1 had already fixed it with an EW-hardened guidance unit before the start of the Ukraine war, we just didn't give them any of our new stuff. I have never seen any complaints about the accuracy of other American GPS guided munitions like GMLRS or ATACMS.
>>65121809>I have never seen any complaints about the accuracy of other American GPS guided munitions like GMLRS or ATACMS.Those have much larger warheads so it doesn't matter if they're a little off target.
>>65121830if the jamming worked they would not be "a little off target"
>>65121830They also weren't designed for the GWOT so they didn't use unencrypted civilian GPS units to save money. The problems with Excalibur were very specific to its intended use and design.
>>65121752Weird how HIMARS only stopped being effective when the ammunition shipments stopped though.
>>65121809Is there a good source of info on the A1 out there? I'd say my google-fu is weak, but I think google is just worthless now.
>>65121706uh oh melty
>>65121713>>65121720Doesn't look like YPG, unless they got a lot of rain the past few years.
>>65122197I especially like how they try to imply that US PGMs aren't real because of jews
>>65121706What, did they kill another ayatollah?
>>65122197>uh oh he pressed the "im telling on you button!"
>>65122242what
>>65122289That's umm, Indianavatnik maybe, not sure but one of the board schizos who believes we all work at Eglin AFB.
>>65121737Seconding, military intelligence continuing it's track record of being an oxymoron had nothing to do with the efficacy of Raytheon's missiles.
>>65121706Actually, 3.5m is most likely the fuzzed value they give out. They almost always understate performance, browns get to learn the real ones when it's blowing them up.
>>65121203I don't habeeb it just because someone would have ordered half a million of these already if half of that was anywhere even near true>but muh productionproduction is built up with cold hard cash in a few years and is an absolute non-argument
>>65121203>liquid>look it up>requires separate fueling stationDOA
>>65121809>I have never seen any complaints about the accuracy of other American GPS guided munitions like GMLRS or ATACMS.Ground launched SDB glide bomb failed for the same reason as Excalibur. It was also awfully easy to shoot down. GMLRS should be affected by the same problems as the previous two. The thing is, the russians arent jamming GPS, they are spoofing it, so that GPS positioning works just fine, its only 500 meters off, so the shell guides itself off target with 100% accuracy.
>>65122457IIRC, the school was a former IRGC building that's still attached to a very much active IRGC compound. Not going to deny the U.S. did it, just seems like poorly thought out civic planning on Iran's part.
>>65122796Depends on what it burns, if it takes diesel you can find that everywhere, if it takes some special fuel then it could be a logi headache.
>>65122863>https://www.edrmagazine.eu/sceptre-ramjet-powered-155-mm-artillery-ammo-long-range-and-high-accuracy-silicon-valley-style-from-tiberius-aerospaceThey say it can run on diesel, JP-4 and JP-8, which I don't doubt given ramjets tend to be not overly demanding on what you feed them, bit more demanding than turbines but way less than scramjets. Having to fuel these things in a combat zone though would be a major pain in the ass, especially since it requires specialized equipment. Pre-fueling is also kinda sketchy given the potential hazards, and I don't see anything indicating if it can be pre-fueled.
>>65121658retard, by the time this thing sees anything close to production, much less use, that CEP will be 1/4 the size it is now.also, not sure about speed, but RANGE will also see big gains.just how this shit is.
>>65122863not really, just ship a jug of juice with each shell.Its not "special juice needed for all shells now".Shell and juice-jug are a unit....like MRE and toilet paper.
>>65122881The formal fueling procedure won't survive actual combat, so long as it can be done with basic tools and a cut up coke bottle guys in the field will make it happen.>>65122899The issue is fuel doesn't keep long term, you can't stick it in storage with the shells for a decade.
>>65122904>The issue is fuel doesn't keep long term, you can't stick it in storage with the shells for a decade.What if you fuel them all up when a war starts and fire them within a handful of months?
>>65122936That'll work.
>>65122850I can guarantee you you set it up that way on purpose. Either Israel doesn't bomb it because human shields, or they do, and the Iranians get to pretend they totally didn't set it up that way on purpose. Either way those kids are human shields.
>>65122850>just seems like poorly thought out civic planning on Iran's part.It's not a mistake, Iran intentionally uses military installations as schools and schools as military installations in order to bait this exact situation. The children are just human shields for their military.
>>65121713White Sands?
>>65121706>>65121752Kek. Literal fucking retards. Post skin and electrical outlet.
>>65122809Sauce.
>>65121203Its dumb. Because shooting it out of a gun means it has to be strong, which means there is extra weight that isn't going to be very useful for fragmentary because its partly holding ramjet fuel etc. If that extra weight was rocket fuel it just convert to speed in a simple way without a gun. And then don't need ground equipment. And don't need acceleration-protected fuse.
>>65122850*excellent civic planning on Iran's partNow they have child martyrs. Read up on some of the shit they did during the Iran-Iraq War. Even if I think this whole thing is retarded and incredibly poorly thought out, it couldn't possibly be happening to worse people.
>>65123090He's talking about this I guess: https://www.twz.com/land/have-ground-launched-small-diameter-bombs-been-thrown-aside-by-ukraine But it seems weird since apparently Ukrainians liked the air dropped SDBs when they could get them. Supposedly the problem with the GLSDB has been fixed as of about a year ago: https://www.armyrecognition.com/news/army-news/2025/us-resumes-glsdb-missile-deliveries-to-ukraine-to-sustain-deep-strikes-on-russian-infrastructure
>>65122947>>65122949Something something open air prison, something something, all methods to fight against genocide are justified, etc etc
>>65122850>the school was a former IRGC building that's still attached to a very much active IRGC compound.Source: my delusional ass
>>65123211When the people responsible for your dead children are you, you don't get to claim the moral high ground. You know what will secure a future for iranian children? Not putting them in the path of people that don't care if they kill them. You do this, you're just as much to blame for their deaths as the people that actually killed them.
>>65122809P(Y) code is encrypted, it is incredibly unlikley the Russians are spoofing GPS on military weapons regularly. They are likely using noise jamming which is exactly why GMLRS is not affected. Noise jammers do not have significant range, maybe a couple of dozen miles or so for the truck mounted systems. Given the flight time of traditional artillery and the types of static targets Excalibur is used against combined with already existing meh accuracy of the existing GPS receiver, and 10 or 20 extra meters of inertial drift on an existing optimal CEP of 20m is more than enough to cause it to miss. The same applies to GLSDB, where several minutes of flight time inside of jammed airspace combined with cheaper IOG units and a small warhead means 50 meters of drift is more than enough to cause it to miss the target. This simultaneously explains why GMLRS has not had an issue, because by the time it enters the range of the jammer it only has about 30 seconds of flight time left, there is simply much less time for it to drift off course. All of this is much less of a worry for US equipment specifically though because GPS Block III satellites have a spot beam that increases received power in a given area by a couple of orders of magnitude, which makes jamming quadratically shorter in range at a given power level compared to the older P(Y) standard
>>65123210>Supposedly the problem with the GLSDB has been fixed as of about a year ago:100% it's also been refucked. The status of whether or not something can bypass EW efforts changes constantly as both sides try to keep up with the other's efforts.
>>65123739I was being Ironic, desu
>>65121706>USS Liberty as an indicator of guided american weapon systems>israeli attack>with french fighters>using unguided bombs, gun runs and israeli torpedo boats with machine gunsWhat did anon mean by this?
>>65122209>YPGIt certainly is not YPG.>>65123077>White Sands?Doubt. I'm thinking 4200-5800' elevation. Not Nevada, nowhere in AZ. Maybe Colorado?
>>65124520>What did anon mean by this?Trolling 101.
>>65124520>What did anon mean by this?When you're trying to derail a thread and you're not sure what to do, make it about the jews somehow.
>>65124527>It certainly is not YPG.Why would the Kurds be testing US high-tech weapons?
>>65121706BASED
>>65123912You'd think it works be as easy as doing what the missiles that still work do. Guy
>>65124546Yuma Proving Grounds, sassy, saucy succubus.
>>65123739The only requirement to claim moral high ground is that you a) are physically capable of communicating, and b) are believed by enough people for the claim to be useful. In that sense, Iran can absolutely claim moral superiority if they put children beside a military target and those children get bombed. The morality of Iran's behavior is irrelevant. The only thing that matters is optics.
>>65126637>The only thing that matters is optics.Yeah, and what anyone SEES is putting kids in harms way gets kids killed. The rest is PROPAGANDA.
