what space craft, dropship and other equipment would make the most sense in case you needed to take over a planet?
>>65128509drones
Is it possible to have an unbalanced technological system where we possess the technology to travel between stars, yet fear re-entering a planet's atmosphere?
>>65128509Whatever you're flying would probably need nuclear thermal ramjet engines, so it doesn't choke on odd atmospheric chemistry. Either that or some kind of modular engine that could be modified in the field for different atmospheres.
>>65128547so... a scramjet
>>65128509Something to bombard the planet from orbit. Something to carry a lot of troops and their equipment as well as a means to get them down to the surface. Probably something to provide air support as well. So battleships, carriers, large troop barges that might also land on the planet, some sort of escorts for all this and if you're meaning an Earth sort of scale planet with billions of people then a lot of these things.
>>65128527Drones cannot take and hold ground, dronetard.
>>65128542That's a tall order, you'd need extreme schizo-tech levels. The Soviets were landing probes on the hellscape that is Venus successfully.
>>65128547>>65129168>build giant interstellar ship in lunar spacedock >oh no it csnt go into atmo because its main component is just modular framesIts not that hard to imagine. Hence the need for specialized landers. Even the Venera pobes were specialized so that doesnt really help the argument at all. Drop a Venera onto Europa and it will freeze.
land huge rockets on the planet surface and then use them as company/battalion-level FOBs, just like in "The Invincible"nothing else really makes sense. Individual squad SSTO dropships like the Halo Pelican/Alien dropship are a pipe dream. luckily, giant 1950s rockets are way cooler than dropships anyway
>>65128509All I need is my little green duck
>>65129219oops wrong angle
>>65129179That, plus the sheer fuel cost and/or potential risks of bringing your main interstellar ship out of orbit and into atmosphere.Even if it's built to handle that, do you really want your septillion-dollar battle carrier parked where the locals can take pot shots at it without even needing orbital capabilities?
>>65129205very based
>>651285092 Overlords + 3 Excalilburs, with a Mule for cargo. Not enough for a full RCT, but it's a start, and fits on a single Invader.
>>65129222>>65129219Oh God he made it into space?
>>65129343Personally, I prefer aerodynes, even if they make no sense.
>>65129343Two Invaders. Invader has three docking slots.
>>65129343A single Overlord would be overkill if you consider your average planet made up of Davion dirt farmers.
>>65129543Derp, was thinking Star Lord and typing Invader, my bad.>>65129568The Outback is a looooong ways from any border--other than maybe the Taurians.
>>65128509Just build what you need on-site.
>>65128542We're basically living in that world right now. Space itself is a fairly comfy, low-risk environment aside from the lack of air. The tires on your care are under 3x more stress than the hull of a ship in space, and a submarine is under something like 100x the stress. 99% of the challenge in building a spaceship is surviving the stresses of launch and reentry.
>>65129446He's killed hundreds of pirates and space commie drone enforcers alike
>>65130228Now that you point it out not a single astronaut has died outside of reentry or launch on a mission. Closest you can argue is Soyuz 11 which was still reentry related.
>>65128509>single pilot multi role dominance fighter>ftl capable without needing to piggyback on a larger ship>runway to atmosphere ceiling in less than 50 seconds
>>65130286Is that Macross?
>>65130286Funny enough the No Man's Sky post earlier had all of those things with the silly little 80s duckbill starfighter. >modular enough to specialize in any role without excluding the ability to use others (a dogfighter with a railgun gatling can still carry rockets, etc) >hyperdrive capable even without being attached to a frigate or capital ship >ground to space in about five or six secondsThe only problem is that I'm not sure what it has for planetary bombardment, but the tech definitely there even if the need isn't.
>>65128509The separatist droid army and the earlier Trade Federation droid armies were both massively underrated in both canon and legends. >Unironically effectively limitless >able to deploy massive overwhelming numbers>able to do so in a short time frame>overwhelming firepower in literally every possible theater of operations >only lose because plot armor>only lose because ordered to losePic related and its compliment could handily wipe out every army on our planet.
>>65130286I too saw that YT short
>>65130314>on our planetNo shit. They have armed spaceships, we don't. That's not a high bar when they got run off by the local militia with light fighters and the gungans.
>>65130314>ordered to loseA bit doubtful unless I'm forgetting canon. Win or lose Palpatine would have cause for the war he needed to take power, if his home planet was literally occupied by the Trade Federation it would have given him even more fuel to rabble rouse in the senate until he could mentally influence enough votes to become Chancellor and take emergency powers. If anything, Naboo was a test of his apprentice and the Jedi Order both, where all results suited him just fine.
>>65130314And their compliment of landers were a wonderfully inventive bit of fantasy engineering. They deployed troops, speeders, tanks, and troop carriers quickly and effectively.
>>65130344Honestly one of my favorite scenes in those movies was just seeing the battledroids fold out of those. It was brilliant.
>>65130326He never wanted droids and didn't want to share power. He deliberately set the CIS to lose. The entire point of the CIS was to consolidate all the people that could singularly oppose him into one block he could then eliminate and their armies with them.
>>65129205We need to go back
>>65130326>A bit doubtfulIt's in the novelizations which thanks to Disney are now as much canon as the movies. He wanted all the richest and most powerful organizations in the galaxy in one group so he could kill them all and take over their dosh. The seppies winning didn't suit his ambitions anywhere near as well as the republic becoming the empire did.
>>65130271Now if only he could do a return tour. His home is overrun with earth communists
>>65130319No they got one shotted by the chosen one. They were wiping the floor with everyone until tiny vader decided to asspull magic and jedi younglinged their control ships main reactor. Because unironically why would you NOT have a central brain in control of your robot army RTSing the planet below?? Especially when the chucklefucks don't even have a navy.
>>65130356Yes, he deliberately set the CIS to lose, but we're talking about the Trade Federation on Naboo.
>>65130380In Naboo specifically they weren't ordered to lose. Space wizards going to space wizard in that one. There I think he legitimately wanted to have Naboo lose and take out Nute early on iirc. But then prophesy happened.
>>65130372If you are retarded enough to get into a war with the jedi and not expect asspull magic I do not know what to tell you. I would be prepared for that shit. Sonic weapons exist and lightsabers can't reflect them, the same goes for buckshot unless the jedi is OP enough to catch the pellets and throw them back at you. The problem with the Trade Federation's setup, ultimately, was that the droids were slow and a little stupid on their own and a bit too reliant on an operator and there don't seem to have been enough of those. Anakin's ship never should have been allowed that close to the reactor, especially when jedi bullshit is an expected factor. Tiny Anakin nothing, Revan would have soloed them for being this incompetent.
>>65130386No Naboo was actually Darth Plaguies not Sideous, well it was a bit of Sideous puppeteering around Plaguies. The main idea had Plaguies in on it but Sideous had his own thing going on with Maul, which Plaguies knew about, but was not fully aware of all his dealings.
>>65130386Fair enough, I think we just sort of jousted past each other unintentionally then, because he definitely wanted the CIS to lose or he wouldn't have set the whole thing up that way. I agree with you, too, since it fits how he seems both sort of surprised and like he's working out how to take advantage of this when he first meets Anakin at the end of Phantom Menace.
>>65130392It wasn't just asspull magicMaul was there for asspull magicIt's CHOSEN ONE asspull magic that fucked them all overRevan would have been bent over and raped by JarJar entirely by accident if he was ever anywhere near tiny Anakin's plot armor
Giant egg filed with mechs and all kind of vehicles/equipment be upon you.https://youtu.be/ikB8B26OUpE?si=F_4LAHsyfaSa6aeW&t=21
>>65130392Anakin one shotted a lucrehulk when he was 9. Wtf did Revan do when he was 9?
>>65130404>Revan would have been bent over and raped by JarJar entirely by accident if he was ever anywhere near tiny Anakin's plot armorand everyone would have clapped, such is the power of the chosen one.
A mecha carrier that transforms into a giant mecha
>>65130456That sounds fairly gay.Of all the ways the thing could transform it chooses giant man. It went as gay as it could with what it had without being overtly sexual.
>>65130392Kyle Katarn just force pushed the pellets back at people.Checkmate Sithiests.
>>65130392I mean the Lucrehulk is just a repurposed transport ship - itd be like complaining the IRIS Shahid Bagheri was not as survivable as a Gerald Ford class carrier
>>65130589>I mean the Lucrehulk is just a repurposed transport shipNo, it was built to purpose. It transported immense amounts of cargo. The cargo varied. From merchant goods to armies. Whatever it transported it transported in absolute security. And during the clone wars it was never faced by a republic ship single-handedly with the expectation of victory. It was undoubtedly a capable warship in its own right and brought to bear an immense amount of firepower, shields and a veritable flood starfighters wherever it was deployed. This is why it's underrated. People look at it and think it's a ship that was rushed into a role it wasn't suited for. In reality its sheer mass allowed a degree of power generation and troop deployment few ships could match.
>>65128509This grinds my gears>giant ass starship with no crew>only has one platoon of Muhreens>only has one APC and one dropship>Lt does not carry his own Pulse rifle and is only armed with a 9mm>APC has space for 4 sentry guns but not extra Pulse rifles and Smartguns plus ammunition
>>65130649>giant ass starship with no crewThis is explained in the technical manual. FTL in the setting induces time expansion once you get past lightspeed, hence the need for the hyper sleep chambers. While most of the crew is sleeping the ship is run by the AI core, with androids like Bishop remaining active to do the tasks the big AI needs a human shaped and sized assistant to do.
>>65129129Yes they can you brainlet.
>>65130537>admits its not overly sexual>still finds gay faultsI think that's a you problem.
>>65130360Stop all engines. Repel all boarders.
>>65128509With the advanced material science of a space faring civilization? I'd say cargo tethers that a low orbit spacecraft or mobile dock would attach to an on-planet site. I really see no way of entirely space based logistics for an invading force entirely dependant on shuttles made for atmospheric landings and starts. You need space infrastructure, quickly.Think of these swimming docks the chinks have for taiwan but as a space equivalent.
>>65129854Thing is OP never specified the population of the planet that is being invaded. If the entire population is made up of some hillbilly named Keith and his pet tortoise Alan you don't need that much.
