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Hunley sank on 29 August 1863 during a test run, killing five members of her crew. She sank again on 15 October 1863, killing all eight of her second crew, including Horace Lawson Hunley himself, who was aboard at the time, even though he was not a member of the Confederate military. Both times Hunley was raised and returned to service.

On 17 February 1864, Hunley attacked and sank the 1,240-ton United States Navy screw sloop-of-war Housatonic,[2] which had been on Union blockade duty in Charleston's outer harbor. Hunley did not survive the attack and sank, taking all eight members of her third crew with her, and was lost. Twenty-one crewmen died in the three sinkings of Hunley during her short career.
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So let me get this straight: johnny reb lost 21 men in exchange for 5 billy yanks and a fucking sloop? I knew they died an horrible death but for fucks sake, i wouldn't have ridden that sub even if they told me we were going to blow out the HMS victory herself.
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>>65130792
The killed a lot of sloop. The sloop was very evil.
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>>65130772
>Vasa - warship of the Swedish navy 1628
>largest and most heavily armed warship in the world at the time
>designed by the king himself
>capsized & sank 20 minutes and 1.3km into her maiden voyage
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>>65130833
I love naval things. Where one decision, admiral or engineer, can doom every man to the sea.
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>>65130844
Its mostly hubris getting prople killed, which is always kinda funny.
Just look up the story of Charles Lennox Richardson and the Namamugi Incident
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>>65130772
God, what a death machine.
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>>65130889
Why didn't they use hamsters?
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>>65130925
The North cut of the gas, hamsters had to be eaten
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>>65130889
Literal fucking Team Rocket engineering.
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>>65131064
Do you think they ever fucked in there?
I always felt that there was unresolved sexual tension between them
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>>65130772
The Bismarck and the Yamato count. They were just targets for enemy bombs and aircraft, never having accomplished shit.
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>>65131070
>felt that there was unresolved sexual tension between them
You have poor awareness of social cues and non-existent gaydar..
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>>65130772
The Yamato
The Moskva
The Bismarck
The USS Indianapolis

Big ships = bad idea
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>>65131074
I firmly believe that Jessie and James have explored each other's bodies but still inexplicably think that they're still virgins.
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>>65131085
The real question is which way Meowth swings.
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>>65131085
James is gay. Jesse is a lesbian. They are one anothers beards. They are supposedly meant to be straight and certainly say things to other characters to try to give that impression, but they're written, cast and acted as super-duper queer theatre rats who are beards for each other - Jesse as a dommy fag hag, James as a twink.
>>65131087
Meowth is straight. His whole origin story is him, as a street cat, getting pussystruck (pun intended) by a rich Persian who then cucks him because he's not rich enough, which hardens his heart and makes him realise both that money speaks and that nice guys finish last or something, and so he turns to a life of crime and villainy.
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>>65131103
>Meowth is straight. His whole origin story is him, as a street cat, getting pussystruck (pun intended) by a rich Persian who then cucks him because he's not rich enough, which hardens his heart and makes him realise both that money speaks and that nice guys finish last or something, and so he turns to a life of crime and villainy.
That just sounds like someone trying to explain Andrew Tate to someone without access to the internet
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>>65130772
Is there any written record of how they got the third crew to board this thing in combat after it killed the last two to a man in testing?
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>>65130850
naval treatises and laws are written in blood.
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>>65131232
>well its not like it will just sink a THIRD time, right??
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>>65130850
I love old Jap art and its crazy expressivity.
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>>65130792
A sloop-of-war is a decent kill, if they had gotten something that could've ended the blockade it was worth the try

How they kept getting new crew to man that death trap is crazy though
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>>65131293
>no tentacles
Meh
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>>65131232
>>65131298
The 3rd crew were all volunteers who really believed in the concept. The Confed Navy actually wanted nothing more to do with the sub after the 2nd loss, but Dixon begged and pleaded and they let him sort himself out basically.

>>65130772
Ah yes the epic 1/3 KDR sub.
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>>65130833
Her sister ship Äpplet got finished a year later and with changed (again) proportions. And while she didn't sink she was a poor sailer and got scuttled in the 1660s to block off an inlet towards Stockholm.
Another example of an overbuilt ship would be the Adler von Lübekc (Eagle of Lübeck). Which was built in 1565/66 as a dedicated warship to be used against the Swedes during the Northern Seven Years' War. At the time she was also the biggest and most heavily armed ship in northern Europe - but when she was launched negotiations were already under way and she never saw combat. Then the Adler got used as a trade ship and here her being a dedicated warship built for the relatively calm Baltic Sea (and heir being of a composite construction featuring both carvel and clinker built methods) showed her disadvantages. She took on much water and after a few voyages she was sold and broken up near Lisbon after taking on more water than usual.
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I think most of the people itt are forgeting that the Hunley was the first submarine to sink an enemy ship in combat and that about 20 other submarines/attempts were made during the civil war by both sides. I wouldn't call that an anti-wunderwaffen, it marks a crucial development in submarine warefare and clearly, despite it's glaring issues, it was seen as a viable path for tech development.
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>>65131079
>>65131072
Except for Yamato none of those are anything but standard ship designs. Calling Indianapolis, a bog-standard heavy cruiser from the early 1930s that served throughout the entirety of the war a wunderwaffe is so retarded I'm tempted to accuse you of being a brownoid
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>>65130772
Clive Cussler came to the Citadel and asked for some volunteer divers to help. It was pretty fun and you got to leave post and all the corps bullshit for a couple weeks after class. He was actually a super nice guy
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>>65130772
21 dudes for a sloop isn't a bad trade. It sucks for the 21 dudes but their deaths saved all the men who otherwise would had died to kill a sloop.
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>>65131772
I went on a dive with him in the pacific, super chill dude, definitely all about the history and dives lol the book writing seemed to just be to fund it all.
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>>65131293
>be random Bri'ish merchant
>accidentally offend Jap
>NOOOO U DISHONORU ME!
>Orders Samurai to cut you down
>nothing personnel gaijin...
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>>65131293
Looks like a basedjak meme
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>>65130772
V22
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>>65131298
They didn't have TMZ for information.
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>>65131072
bismarck was a suboptimal battleship that got turned into an inescapable juggernaut by the bong propaganda which needed to justify losing the hood. just the fact that it used double turrets well into the 40s speaks volumes about its obsolete design, despite being a relatively new warship.
the most powerful axis warship this side of the continent wasn't the bismarck, but the roma. but at least the bismarck put up a fight, the roman just took a guided bomb straight up her ass as she fleed to malta.
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A few years ago I read an article by a scientist who investigated the last sinking of the Hunley and he came to the conclusion that the boat was basically fine and that it was the detonation of the torpedo charge and the ensuing shockwave and concussion underwater that actually killed the crew and caused the ship to sink.
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>>65130792
"What happened last time?"
Well they'd actually all died.
"Right but before that..."
Dead.
"Can't wait!"
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>>65131830
Clive Cussler books are fucking high fructose corn adventure... In the best possible way.
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>>65131070
They fucked in a manga, james knocked up jessie
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>>65131883
There was even a novel about it.
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>>65132117
to shreds you say.....



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