If you were in the Ukrainians’ shoes, what would you target with long-range drones and cruise missiles:The May 9 parade?Or an oil refinery that would be highly vulnerable because all the air defense systems have been pulled back to Moscow?There are currently about 100 S-400 launchers concentrated in the Moscow area.
Id send some towards Moscow on the parade day just to keep them on their toes and make them have to sound air alarm on live TV. But keep hitting ports, refineries and pump stations with most launches.
>>65132460>100 S-400 launcherswait thats like all of their S-400
>>65132460something else maybe st petersbury
>>65132460id target putin's and his friends residences
If they have indeed pulled many systems to Moscow for the parade then they should expend a lot of long range munitions on every juicy target outside Moscow.
>>65132460You're assuming that they actually want to attack Moscow. It would be a waste of resources to do that.
Are there any refineries close enough to Moscow for the flames and smoke to be seen?
>>65132476FPBP
>>65132496It would be really funny to watch a lone T-34 get chased through Moscow by an FPV-drone tho
>>65132460I would at least try to put on a sick drone show for the parade, but I would focus on spilling enough oil to make BP look like Greenpeace.
>there are a 100 s-400 around mosqeow>jewtin still begs zlonsky to allow him to have his pride parade in peace
>>65132476lmao seething zigger samefagging himself
>>65132460Putin. Kill that fucker on live tv.
>>65132460>There are currently about 100 S-400 launchers concentrated in the Moscow area.Neat.Drone everything else.Al these oil pipelines have pumping stations, and I'm pretty sure Ust-Luga and Novorossiysk haven't been on fire for a week.
>>65132476He said Ukraine, not Russia
>>65132460I'd target the AD network itself. Let it really hit home that the tsar can do nothing to protect even the capital, that there won't be "lucky shots" because the AD can't even save itself.
>>65132460Too obvious;>mass faint aganst shipyards>much commotion>mass faint against Moscow>much commotion and panic>full assault against electric power grid right before paradeOr better yet, during.
>>65132593Why is the russia such a poor AIDS infested dump then? It certainly doesn't seem to be paying dividends for their society.
>>65132460I would target high strategic value targets, but would send unarmed cheapo decoy drones over to moscow just to see how much AA ammo russians waste on them
>>65132625>inevitably written by pro-Western sourcesAhh yes, the typical /leftypol/ argument of >if the source isn't the Communist Party Ministry or Propaganda then it's bullshit>Russian orphanagesVVVGH SO TRAD
>>65132649NTA, but what argument needs to be made? You are simply refusing to face reality. By the way, that webm is Putin's Russia, not the 90s. It is going to be that times a thousand soon. I, for one, will be glad to see Russian humiliation.
>>65132460>Continue bombing Tuapse, Perm and other critical refiners and exportation hubs>Strike more Aviation maintenance centers> Hit more Electronics factories>Bomb the shit out of the remnants of the Black Sea fleet>Start bombing the Baltic fleet>Start going after the A/D assets on the outer edges of Moscow>Bomb more airfields
>>65132460>parade?no, you'd get maybe a moral boost while giving moscow a massive 'see these nazis target parades' blah blah blah>oil refinerythat one.
>>65132649What fucking argument? Russia is a shithole by just about any metric one could imagine. GDP, median income, HIV rate, divorce rate, government corruption; they're a shithole that for most of modern history has been trying to inflict their malfunction on their neighbors, whether it be subsuming them into the empire or communism. What argument do you have for that?>I myself was born in the USMarxograd, Indiana oblast?
>the fumes sniffer comes to kwetch impotently after his pidorburg got droned againNobody cares, vanya.
>>65132460id aim them all at that ridiculous Peter the Great monument
>>65132682>Soon to been annexedWhich year the picture was made? I bet it wasn't a year when putin had to beg like a bitch just to hold his little parade, lmao.
>>65132460I think the real question here is "what air defense doing?" I'd want to blast a bunch of refineries and transport hubs, but the Ukes don't seem to have trouble doing that as it is. Maybe some munitions or drone plants would be good, but those are already getting blown up too. I guess all of the above but with fewer misses is a solid option though.What I wouldn't do is attack the parade itself. Giving Putin a casus belli to mobilize Moscow and St. Petersburg would be moronic. A cheeky forebombing somewhere symbolic could be fun though. Maybe light the Kremlin's flag on fire (again) or something.
>>65132682>r*dditjaksI accept your concession.>>65132687>I'll ask again, where are you from? Is your country entirely free from problems? I could point to West Virginia, and say the US is a shithole too.No one thinks the US is free from problems, but West Virginia's GDP per capita is like six (6) times the russia's.>why are the statistics in your image "new HIV diagnoses per million" and not "new HIV diagnoses per million people tested"?Because it's a random graph I saved to illustrate the braoder point that the russia is a shithole. You can look up basically any statistic: AIDS, income, divorce rates, whatever, and do the same, because the russia IS a shithole.
>>65132460I would target every electrical substation that powers Russia's locomotives west of the Urals. How will they ship munitions to the front--or run their economy--without rail lines?
>>65132552What if they blow his head off with a shotgun, but it turns out it wasn't the real putin!
>>65132716Parts of Russia are a shithole, I'm sure, just like parts of 99% of countries are.You still didn't answer where you're from.
>>65132725Maybe the real Putin was the friends we made along the way.
>>65132733Burgerstan obviously you retard, which I highly doubt you're from or you'd know better than to think West Virginia was a valid comparison to a post communist hellhole like russia in any way.
>>65132460>The May 9 parade?>Or an oil refinery that would be highly vulnerable because all the air defense systems have been pulled back to Moscow?Yes.
>>65132725Noooo you can’t kill Udmurt, he’s my favorite body double
>>65132746So would you rather live in Southside Chicago, or in Moscow? Would you rather live in Skid Row in Los Angeles, or in Saint Petersburg? You're the one talking about the GDP comparison.All of this, of course, has nothing to do with Ukraine which is what this thread is about. Why aren't you at the front, anon? Don't you want to purge the world of the evil Russians and reclaim their shithole and make it high GDP?
>>65132734Kek maybe he will stay in power forever, the kgb replacing him with lookalikes for centuries and the russkies end up worshipping him like the North Karens worship dear leader.
>>65132460Su-34s, Mig-31s, and Tu-95s on their air fields. Without these, the Russian army is literally useless
>>65132759>>65132759>So would you rather live in Southside Chicago, or in Moscow? Would you rather live in Skid Row in Los Angeles, or in Saint Petersburg?Even with your ridiculous cherry picking, I'd prefer the American cities.>Why aren't you at the front, anon? Don't you want to purge the world of the evil Russians and reclaim their shithole and make it high GDP?Because I'm an American you mong. Why are you shilling for HIVistan when you could be at the front starring in a drone kill compilation? You'd honestly be more useful there, since you can't actually put together an argument as to why you or anyone else should support the russia; at the front someone would at least have to waste time and a couple hundred bucks of drone and explosives to kill you. >Don't you want to purge the world of the evil Russians and reclaim their shithole and make it high GDP?Why wouldn't anyone want their land to be free of invaders and prosperous? Isn't that like a baseline human desire for most people: for their kids to live in peace and to be better off than they are? You're arguing without a point.
>>65132791>the RussiaFucking lol. No one from America says "the Russia". That's actually the second time you made that slip. You are not American. I would bet you are from a country with a language that doesn't include definite articles. Nice try.
>>65132791>I am American>"the russia"lel
>>65132810>>65132819Seething dipshits. I'm not sure anyone calls it "the russia," and definitely not "the so-called russia (no such country)." You're getting memed on. Now address the argument.
>>65132848Not arguing with people who are dishonest. Whoever that guy is has good English, but that little slip betrayed him. It's funny that these are the same people likely doing the "Ohio oblast" thing.Again, nice try anon! Definite articles can be tricky if English isn't your native language.
>>65132862I am "that guy" and it was intentional. Search desiarchive for "the russia," "poccnyr," or "puccia." I'm not the only anon who does it; people do it as a joke. Again: I have trouble believing you're from the US given you thought West Virginia was in any way comparable to that shithole. Any actual American on 4chan would have had the argument at least hundreds of times with western Europeans and would know that even the poorer states are quite well off in comparison to most of Europe, nevermind a place like the so-called russia (no such country).
>>65132883>Search desiarchive for "the russia," "poccnyr," or "puccia."*desuarchive obviously, I don't want to know what thirdie horrors inhabit a place called "desiarchive."
I'd equip some drones with speakers and have them blare out that Ukrainian folk song which is the basis for "Hark Hear the Bells", both to troll the parade and because the song's coincidwntal use of the Dies Irae motif makes it sound sinister.
>>65132810>>65132819>itt, zigger tourist samefagging and outing themselvesLike, seriously, this has been a meme on /k/ since the start of this war. At least try to convince your supervisor that he should let you lurk a week before you start posting next time.
>>65132460AIRPORTSRussia has zero ability to acquire new airliners and they're fragile as fuck.
>>65132460>The May 9 parade?>Or an oil refinery that would be highly vulnerable because all the air defense systems have been pulled back to Moscow?both
Fly them over the parade trailing yellow and blue smoke. Optional: Drop bananas.
>>65132883You know briefly as a kid I thought Virginia was how you spelt vagina, or something. So instead of looking at naughty pics I had a gander at pics of that US state for basically no reason at all. Or maybe it was the feds trying to recruit me via astral projection even tho I ain’t a yank, who knows as it was a strong sensation to google Virginia of all things
>>65132460Zelensky
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>>65132460I'd target the AD cuck vrhicles themselves. S400 blow up in such a beautiful manner, and poisoning Mosqueov with hypergolic fumes from the blown up missiles would be based.
>>65132460The actual killer drones go to strategic targets, but I would send a squadron towing Ukrainian flags to overfly the parade route while its happening
As funny as it would be, I don't think they'll target the paradeThe risk of smoking a babushka watching the parade live on tv is just too great. Imagine the screeching. Imagine all the totally-not-paid-by-russia politicians crying for the poor innocent woman butchered in the streets by the evil hoh- uh, ukrainians.They'll probably just keep doing what they've been doing recently, that is, targeting stuff that's of actual value to the kremlin, since we all know they assign negative value to the life of the average russian.
>>65132460I would leave the parade alone like every year because it's a holiday parade. I would hit two or three big targets near moscow to make a point instead. A few soldiers not attacking isn't worth the long range drones.A few big targets would be nicer than a few soldiers and making civilians scared.
>>65132725You laugh but "Putin" is a manufactured identity and the real Putin died in an accident in 1999. Russia has since then been controlled by a cabal of Putinmorphs, initially recruited/created just as doubles, who later usurped and coopted the levers of power in the Russian counterintelligence mafia state (oligarchs, institutionalized assrape, massive graft/corruption, etc.)
>>65132675Wait, Ukraine seems pretty bad as well. I wonder what the deal is over the--Oh.
>>65132734I think the change on the nose shape is even more telling.
>>65133548The same thing happens in the Baltic countries too. HIV and AIDS spreads among the Russians.
>>65132460Both
>>65132460I'd target Putin and his cabinet's children living in the West.
I've got a few ideas:>release blue and yellow balloons at different locations/times during the parade so that camera crews have to quickly pan or zoom in on something inconsequential like a pigeon taking a shit so as not to show it>hack the Moscow siren network and trigger it repeatedly>large drones trailing Ukrainian flags programmed to just fly in circles as bait for AD cucks>fibre optic/preprogrammed FPV drone that flies to the middle of Red Square, drops a single grenade. Grenade actually just blasts out confetti and a flag that says BANG>hack the screens in Red Square to show the mobik suicide compilation webm>sabotage the sewer mains to create another Great Moscow Shit Geyser within full view of Red Square>leave a trail of food to catch Steven Segal in a deadfall trap
>>65132460If you keep hitting Putin's properties you won't kill him because he's in a bunker but you'll meme it very clearly he has lost. To their asian minds that would be the end.
>>65132694Imagine tagging Lenin if he was still on display.
>>65132848It's called "The Russia" as a mockery; it's incorrectly applied to ukraine all the time to imply it isn't a natural nation-state, but a political one. "The" means "composed of geographically disparate areas or regions", since ukraine has the geographic variety of my front yard "the" is obviously stupid but Russians say it all the time.Russia however is a bunch of totally different geographies and so "The Russia" would actually be correct, but it works best for islands like "The West Indies" or "The British Isles".
>>65133543Damn, so there was a mafia putin, replaced by kgb glowies with puppets, then the puppets formed an union and now they're in charge. Conspiraception
>>65133628"The Russia" also makes ziggers seethe hard. You can enrage just about any Russian, online or offline, by saying "the Russia".
Boys, stop talking about politics and focus on picking a target to strike.
>>65133170We have you.
>>65132758>cute creases under eyesat least we know its acurate since this was clearly written by a russian
>>65132482I'd do the same, fly drones and missles over the parade but don't actually hit it for max embarrassment
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>>65132460Tons of decoys to moscow and real drones to refineries.
>>65133580This sounds almost perfect, but I would expand on it a little>have sirens blast Ukraine's national anthem on max volume, the entirety of Moscow's population now has to commit ritualistic seppuku since listening to said anthem is considered a federal crime of extreme severity>hacked screens should include the most retarded, annoying phonk imaginable for meme value, also add a caption saying "This is what your homeland wants from you">instead of dropping a single confetti nade, have some heavy-duty drones with cargo bays drop a ton of booklets right on top of parade spectators; no anthrax, plague or such, just some pieces of paper colored in blue and yellow saying "Slava Ukraine" or something. Then you can enjoy a month or two of sudden disappearings of anyone who dared to pick them up
>>65132819>>65132810People do it specifically to piss you retards off because this technique was constantly used to deny ukraine’s legitimacy as a state when they have a longer cultural history than russia.
>>65133691He’s not a russian, anon.
>>65132490Too well defended. Waste of drones
>>65132540It's just a set up for a false flag attack that will justify full mobilisation and the total obliteration of kiev
>>65132668If that's really feasible why aren't they doing thay already? Why wait?
>>65132460You won't do shit
>>65133828Otherwise what?The world's second army will invade?
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>>65133580Aggressively lame holy shit for shame anon
>>65133828Found seething vatnigger.
>>65133828>He posted, from the cold cuckshed in Udmurtia
I Literally wouldn't send a single munition towards Moscow, save up and make a specially large attack on known refineries and drone factories around the country, I bet they moved many AA assets to moscow and they might be less well defended.
>>65132460I'd hit Lenin's corpse with an FPV as revenge for the famine of 1922.
>>65132460Best plan probably is to increase the number of submarines in the Russian fleet, if you need to do anything beyond bombing refinery infrastructure.If you want propaganda, just make some drones pulling Ukie flags cross over the parade.
>>65132460their pride parade? token amount of anything sent in the general direction, just to get the alarms blaring, no actual targets of any kindmy reasoning for this is twofold - one is that if there is any place with the best air defense, it has to be moscow, especially at this time, so you'd need way more serious hardware to get this through. And it doesn't have any targets of military value, and it can easily backfire (since it'll be full of civilians)two is that just a singular air raid siren is enough to turn the parade into a farcethere's simply nothing to gain, other than reddit upboats, from sending anything serious to moscow. The not-as-prestigious bombing runs of their oil infrastructure and military complexes are extremely more effective
>>65132460Just poke the AD enough to make it start firing all over Moscow, Novorossiysk-style.
>>65133903Frankly, hitting the mummysoleum would be hilarious. Not sure how well-advised, but hilarious nonetheless.
>>65133921just bring your own air raid siren on a drone bro
>>65132496Not necessarily, I imagine the zigs will be quite jumpy on the 9th, imagine Ukraine sending a dozen of drones and Zs proceed to chimp out and fire a thousand interceptors to make it certain that no piss falls on monke's parade
>>65134068Ideally they should time it so the gunfire would occur within earshot of the parade.
