The beautiful VP9CC editionGuide: https://files.catbox.moe/9g5sv2.pdfPastebin: https://pastebin.com/gs6mLNikPrevious: >>65137356
>>65140605Strikerslop
>>65140636https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xdf-IJIJJo
>>65140605Strikerfection
Not interested in a Taurus thanks though.
>>65140666https://youtu.be/2bXuO3lujhs?t=1500
I have joined the club. Shot 150 through it right after I picked it up. The safety is terrible and I'll be getting the M9 one to replace it, SA trigger pull is astonishingly good. Did two rounds of dot torture, and it's a good thing 9mm is cheap because god damn do I need practice, I suck ass.Gun with book because apparently that's how things work around here, this is the only Italian porn I have though.
>>65140702Is that the Compact?
>>65140707Yea, I wanted a CC piece and the subcompact options were just too smol for my hands, I think i'll be able to get away with this. Certainly during the winter at least.
>>65140701I said I don't want a Taurus
>>65140719I think that is a pretty cool carry gun.
>>65140702Patriot.I heavily recommend getting the stealth lever kit, as it will give you the low profile slide stop. Getting onto the gun at speed the low profile slide stop reduces the chances of you accidentally engaging it. It also contains a decocker kit, which you pair the right side of the stealth decocker with the safety of your choice to create a single sided safety.
>>65140733God fucking damn it
>>65140701Is there a more edgy name for your gun shop than "devil hound tactical"?
>>65140737https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil_DogYou gonna shit talk?
>>65140701Am I the only one that loves mechanical feats of engineering and trying to understand exactly how they work? I love watching shit like this.
>>65140720https://youtu.be/eXQ-vYk8wsg
>>65140769I am technologically retarded. I know bullets go in gun and if I pull trigger they come out really fast. Everything else about guns is literally magic to me
>>65140802https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tptAe8t-1oc
>>65140800where'd the timestamp go, my bad, I think that guy's a douchemeant to post this part: https://youtu.be/eXQ-vYk8wsg?t=2375>>65140802Can you at least do basic gun safety? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzjVdEyEPs8
>>65140702Not the M9 safety for a compact PX4 bro... it's over
>>6514080575 with a bit of pipe on it...
total douche bag, like Donut Operator
>>65140847it's okay, Donut Operator has to wait a whole month for a sponsor
I love how they're marketing mountain dew to capital G gamers now.Also the gen 6 is peak Glock and you are a sixcel if you say otherwise.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1175876425If I want a USP in .45, should I just buy this?
>>65140862Yeah, hell yeah. It ain't going to go for cheap, though.
>>65140800>posting leviathan tribe shillsKEKthe HK newguns fans cannot help but reveal themselves
>>65140880I already said that I don't like him. Something about him, yeah he does seem like scum.
post cats n gats>>65140858I've yet fingerfuck one let alone shoot one, what's the trigger like compared to gen 5?
>>65140733>stealth lever kitIf i'm reading it right Beretta only sells the low profile safety/decocker lever and langdon is out of their kits. So i'll grab one when they get back in stock. The slide catch does stick out an awful lot, I had wondered why it was quoted as being wider than my USP.
>>65140862Wait, buy now price for $950? Hell yeah. Yeah, buy it!
Bersa TPR9 is sexy, THO
>>65140899ok, she loves watching me clean my guns>calicoCUTE!
>>65140862Yes thats sick
>>65140929Yeah $950 is actually a fair offer. And 5 magazines?
>>65140862>buying used guns
Any recommendations on a duty/comp holster for a VP9L? No budget limit
>>65140899Pretty similar, I do prefer the flat face trigger though. The biggest improvement imo is the grip and grip texture. Also that you can mount any optic without having to buy plates, but we'll see how these do and if my optic stays on. I used the factory loctite so I'm asking for it.
>>65140939>paying close to $1,419 for a new .45 usp elite
>>65140918I like their ppk clone in 380 but I can't bring myself to buy an argentinian gun
I think I need something else in .30 Looger. Suggerimenti?
gen 1 was by far the most beautiful and the grip was all downhill from then why are all modern pistols ugly toblerone abominations
>>65139453https://files.catbox.moe/6fn6kk.mp4
>>65140970>tobleroneI assumed it was cheaper/easier to make. Can't fucking stand it though.
>>65140935Yea new they're minimum $1200, I can't see the date code on it though, it looks more worn than the 200 rounds they're claiming.2 of the mags are 10 rounders, which is gay.
>>65140987>2 of the mags are 10 rounders, which is gay.Meh. I think it's a good buy.
>>65140970Gen 3 Glocks are my favorite because they have no front serrations and the finger grips
>>65140987>2 of the mags are 10 rounders, which is gay.Perfect for a cuck state like mine, I'm bidding.
What's the endgame of pistol shooting? Unless you have the desire and dedication for serious competition and spend your time shaving off thousands of a second, what's the plateau for the average Joe? Social media and 10 second videos of a guy ripping his best drill of the day have distorted realistic expectations for cold draws, so it's hard to get decent information.
>>65140991I generally hate finger grooves on weapons but gen 3 GLOCKs feel like they were made specifically for my weird block hands.
booooo
>>65141005What's wrong?
>>65141001The average Joe sucks cock at shooting. Go to your local shooting matches, action shooting, steel, etc. you don’t have to do USPSA or IDPA.
>>65140963H&K P9Shttps://www.gunbroker.com/item/1175707393
>>65140702>the safety is terrible Agreed...i feel like it was designed for looks but functionally its upside-down...its easier to engage instead of disengage Heres a link for where i found my 92 style replacement https://www.eurooptic.com/beretta-px4-assembled-safety-lever-type-92fs-rp-c8a000?srsltid=AfmBOorFthrAktTxKK5fo3AZO5mLIstU-i2BKr0SZZxC3cnukr0KHVpV
>>65140987I like 10 rounders because they make things neater when loading from boxed ammo. I don't go out of my way to buy them but if they come with the gun I relegate them to range mags.
>>65141019I'm going to get the one from Beretta. It costs more but they're giving me free money so whatever.https://www.beretta.com/en-us/product/beretta-px4-assembled-safety-lever-type-92fs-r-p--C8A000
>>65141001>What's the endgame of pistol shooting?Meeting a woman at the range then watching Invincible with her. I am so lonely
>>65141028let me guess, glawk
>>65141007booooooooo!!!!!!
>>65141034I feel that too sometimes
>>65141026Oh cool!When i looked and bought mine, Beretta was out of stock and that link i posted was the only place i could find one
>>65141045Oh for fucks sake, wrong pic not related.....pic meant to post this
>>65141001My endgame is to be able to ousthoot guys with a rifle with my pistol. That way I can run awp.
>>65140963Idk maybe a p220 in 30, do you already have a Luger?Question, do you know if there's a list anywhere of guns that take Glock rear sights? I'm interested if there's guns other than Glock clones like rxm, dagger.
>>65141038BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
>>65140605>>65140701>>65140639So where is the No-front-rail frame?Special order from Germany?It doesn't exist as a spare part-accessory on HKUSA's website.
>>65141060I would also like to see that, and it will be coming.
>>65141018That's good>>65141054>LugerHuh duh that seems pretty obvious now. Will investigateidk about a list but there are several. Walther PDP cums to mind, Taurus G3 uhhh there's another glaring one that I can't recollect
This is a long shot, but has anyone watched this video? I'm trying to understand what his point is, but after 15 minutes of listing to him ramble about magazines and holsters and attachments I have no idea what's going on.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVGr4ZX0LnY
>>65141088I don’t consume any gun content other than Ben Stoeger or Joel Park
Post rare guns.>>65140963Man, I love the Benelli B-series. I really want a B76 Sport. As for a suggestion, how about a Bernardelli?https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1175937774
>>65140862NTA but thanks!
>>65141032Hi-Point
Tell me how the usp rail adapter is not a liability? It squeezes the frame. I want to like the usp and I want a HK pistol, but not sure what else is out there besides just overspending on a P9S
>>65141129true hero
>someone bought the USP I linkedThanks, you just saved me like $1,100 after taxes and fees
Nobody respond to that garbage bait.
>>65141156Cuck
>>65141160I'm not sure which one you're talking about but I was just about to respond to one of them.
>>65141154>It squeezes the frame.I squeeze the fucking frame.
>>65141176He probably has an fn.
Everybody respond to that garbage bait.
/hg/ was the real bait all along
thinking of picking up a raven 25 acp because it's small and cute :)
i am so bonely
>>65141198lemme guess, all the other corpses are scared of you?
>>65141180Not yet, but soon. Not the model you think though. I guess I’m paranoid from all the over tightened thumbscrew light issues from various pistols. I prefer a single accessory slot. Makes A model surefires a breeze. I guess the p2000 might be a good model, but I’ve got my eyes set on a P9S. The hk4 would be cool too but the P9S incorporates most of what the hk4 offers but in 9mm and a better method of operation
>>65141198>capeshit
>>65141201no one rattles with me. no one wants to see my grave they think i am unmarrowed. bonequest. i don’t even get a real headstone. only a rock.
>>65141210hi n7, come to learn about handguns?
>>65141102
I remember years ago Burt helping me find a B76 because I desperately wanted one but I was not in a great place financially at the time so I didn't nab it. Now they're far more expensive.If there's a gun you want that's no longer in production, just buy it. Don't be like me
>>65141239Facing this issue now. Problem is that there are two of them. There might also be a third. The cost would put me easily close to 5k out of pocket.
>>65141239Years ago my buddy offered to sell me his Steyr M357 for $400, I didn't have it at the time and now they're crazy rare. He could easily get a grand for it.
>>65141212Shhhhhhh. To confirm it’s me, I’m going to say “I am bonequest” on my other trip.You can search in the archives of my other trip later to confirm it’s me. Obviously, don’t hop back on the gen. It really sucked to hear that browsing that gen really bothered you
>>65141260welcome to /hg/ :pim lookin at gun parts like usual, also deeply considering a fn510
>>65141088Basically the ugly version of Elliot Rodger decides to culturally appropriate Beretta culture (our culture is not a costume) and makes observations about the 92 that people have known for a long time.What he says:>The 92 has less malfunctions that glocks in normal environments >The 92 has slightly more or the same number of malfunctions as glocks in dusty/muddy environments >The 92's aftermarket and accessories are decent, not bad enough for Glock's large aftermakrt to be a big deciding factor>92's are not much more expensive than Glock, especially after the price of parts he would change out on his Glocks.>92's have better triggers than glocks and shoot flatter due to their weight.
>>65141289I'm glad every asshole gets to make his mundane opinion heard.
Which handgun should I post
>>65141266>im lookin at gun parts like usualSounds comfy. Did you ever hit the range today or is it still raining over there?>also deeply considering a fn510You do like your euroguns (Yes, I know the FN510 is made/sold thru FN America but still)
>>65141309The ones you like a lot and will fight tooth and nail to keep
>>65141313yup
>>65141309the ech
>>65140829Which safety lever is this? Is it the decocker only "stealth" one?
>>65141312im going to the range tomorrow morning! gonna work some paper and then swap over to the .243 to practice more with it at the rifle range.i do tend to prefer european designs but it's completely incidental.
>>65141239Still not good justification to put yourself on the back foot for who knows how long, because (((debt))) always growsYou got yourself a gunpoker saved search? Set it to email you when new listings pop, they're uncommon enough that you won't get spammed.https://www.gunbroker.com/semi-auto-pistols/search?keywords=benelli%20b76&sort=13&pagesize=96Or do two for B8* and B7* to catch any of the others from the family:https://www.gunbroker.com/semi-auto-pistols/search?keywords=benelli%20b8*&sort=13&pagesize=96https://www.gunbroker.com/semi-auto-pistols/search?keywords=benelli%20b7*&sort=13&pagesize=96That B82 is looking sextremely appealing... in fact I may just
>>65141324it's the "carry" lever that's stock on the compact carry. It's decocker only.
>>65141191You could also get a baby copy like a Bauer with a steel frame. it's smaller and cuter and will hold up long term.>>65141156Anons here are like sharks for a deal
>>65141327>im going to the range tomorrow morning!Finally, I think its been a week since you last shot> .243 to practice more with it at the rifle range.This reminds me. I forgot how to zero optics. If there’s an apocalypse, I am screwed I hear fireworks outside but it sounds wayyy too sharp to be fireworks though. Whatever
Two!?
>>65141379yeah it's been killing me that i haven't gone. im gonna take a 250 box and work on some of those drills.the .243 practice is because im thinking about getting into hunting, i love deer jerky. (there is no way i could do the butchering though)i applied some fresh clenzoil to my vp9 already and i just gotta get sleepy. i finally got the scheduling right with weather and the brother
>>65141383Sexual things are happening here but it's blue board safe.
>>65141102Rarest ones I have. Most recent one even had the original card board box.
>>65141289I see. Bro should have taken a speech class because that was not a succinct video.
>>65140605I'm neutral on strikers vs hammers but I'm still not giving up my P30SK for this. Gib manual safety pls. I don't doubt that it's drop-safe and all that, but I want to be able to ghetto carry my gun to take the trash out without Plaxico Burress-ing myself.
>>65141239Jesus... I mean I could buy one for €600
>>65141383left one is possibly the most attractive polymer handgun I've seen
>>65141416wait, are you the guy at reddit who had his grips sign by Sonoda?
>>65141628you need ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjoOApPLFhw
>>65141397Nah, it's just making a silly reference to a now 20 year old game
>>65141628Let me ask you a question, what happens if you have a light primer strike? In a glock you need to reset the trigger by racking the slide, in a hammer fired gun you just need to pull the trigger again.
>>65141628Based. If you haven’t mexican-carried a full sized pistol in a pinch, you haven’t lived.
>>65142337Did you buy Paul's shirt? I treasure mine.
>>65141001I want to pull this off with at least my CCW rotation and some of my favorite full size handguns
>>65142348Which shirt?
>>65142359The one from after he died and the money went towards his family.
rip in pepperonis, Paulhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv8cByaVyNQ
is it true the P22 is a cheap janky piece of shit that isn't even made by Walther and they just sold out their brand?I want a P99 but I can't find any around and I was going to cope with the P22 but then I read they're nothing alike in terms of quality
>>65142319Nta probably rack the slide
>>65142387Are you just looking for a 22 semi or are you trying to add a Walther to your collection?
>>65142319I don't get light strikes with most reputable target ammo I buy. Additionally in a high stress environment most people eject a round that doesn't go bang as its faster to just do that than see if its a real dud or worse a potential squib load.
>>65142427just p99 cope
Recently got a Taurus G3C for conceal carry. They're compatible with Glock sights, so I'm looking to buy some tritium night sights for it. What are some good options out there?
>>65142387It doesn't even look like p99 anymore
>>65142387What do you mean there's none around? Multiple online sellers have it in stock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1Sw8fe9hJI
>>65142500I am an african man
>>65142518Are you in Africa?
>>65142518Damn, are niggers not allowed to buy guns now?
>>65142519>>65142523almost only norinco zipperhead junk
How do I find the motivation to go to the range? Nearest one to me is an indoor range that charges by the hour and is overpriced. Otherwise there are a couple of outdoor ranges that are owned by clubs and you need a membership. Then there is an outdoor range run by my state you need to buy a range pass for. But it shuts down around Thanksgiving for the winter and is often times closed when it rains because the range officers don't want to be in the rain. Given where I live we always have rain or it is getting ready to rain.
>>65141060I don't get why they're even fucking us around with that. They built the gun with a modular frame on purpose, give us both grip frame options.
>>65142553I think to myself>I want to train>I want to test out this new gun>I want to try this new technique/Drill>I want to make sure my gym time is translating to better grip strength>I had a shitty week, a little extra money, and I want to decompress with something else other than anime, manga, or vidya>I successfully invited someone to come shoot with meA lot of reasons really
>>65142553How often do you normally go? Is this a situation where you need motivation to start or keep going?
That VP9CC looks tempting>HK's micro 9 offering>OR>VP9 trigger>Made in Oberndorf am Neckar, DeutschlandNot sure about MSRP and mag ptices but it's HK, we all know the drill
>>65142575I'm looking at 1k USD, which is more than what I paid for my USP.
>>65142578Yeah I had to pay covid tax 6 years ago for my USP45 which meant paying over 1k but my recent USP 40 was around $786 total, so yeah, ouch.Would rather pick up a 43x MOS and get me some 15 round mags
>>65142582In order to compete with the other micro compacts It would have to be 700ish. A 43X COA is 800 right now. The VP9CC with optic out of the box is a Vortex for 1150...
Would rather carry a Kimber than an HK DESU
So Magtech 9mm steelcase is singlehandedly forcing the price floor closer to 20 cpr again. Is this Brazilian made stuff or stuff from their Oklahoma plant? Sure seems to be a decent amount that hasn't been gone through in days.
BRICK ZONERICKZONE
>>65142628>Almost 2000 dollarsCan't wait for only Burt to buy one and complain about it being jank
>>65142628I was wondering why the hammer is orange. It’s so you can see it at the rear of the slide when it’s cocked.
>>65142629I bet it’ll actually sell for less, when it’s out to the more general distributors I’ll tell you the wholesale price
>>65142634I'm guessing 1400-1500 if its 1800 MSRP
>>65142628>copy the slide cuts of the 'ech>copy the LMAOXD's GRIPZONEThat's the second gun to have aped the ech
>>65142570I wanted to start going to the range again to get into pistol bullseye shooting. But I went to the range last week or maybe the week before now and when they told me they were only doing hour times now I just shrugged my shoulders and walked out. >>65142571I haven't been to the range in three to four years now. Covid kinda killed it for me. Before that I would go to the range at least once a month, to maybe every other month. Also doesn't help I have nobody to go with. My Dad and brother both live kinda far away and in opposite directions. My brother it is like pulling teeth to get him to go to any activity. My Dad runs his own business and is pretty much always busy outside of winter. I have a friend that lives in my old town, but it is almost two hours away and he is addicted to just working and going out to bars afterward for like 5+ years now. I am really thinking firearms isn't the hobby for me anymore.
>>65142641Do you have other hobbies? It's one thing to lose interest in a hobby after a while but if you're just losing motivation to do anything you should probably change things in your environment.
>>65142629The 15 round magazine is what kills it for me. I'd wait to buy one used for like $900 tops, but the fact that it uses a proprietary mag with "poor" (by <current year> standards) round count is just one reason too many against it for me.
>>65142660Nigga, it’s identical to size with the Glock 19 which is also a 15 round mag.
A few years ago I filled out a survey for what new products did I want Wilson Combat to make. Apparently a hammer fired Glock 19 won, and none of you NIGGERS want one
>>65142673That's why gun companies need to be upfront about how much a gun design may cost before they release a 1500 dollar gun that's supposed to compete with a 500 dollar gun.
>>65142687It competes in the luxury carry handgun market, versus staccatos (2.5k), Wilson’s own EDC9 (2.7k), misc 2011s, LTT 92/PX4, Shadow 2 carry, souped up Glocks etc
>>65142698At 15 rounds though it comes off as an ugly duckling, I'd expect 17 round capacity or mec gar glock mag compatibility if they want the staccato audience.
>>65142709Did you know the Staccato HD C3.6 which is also Glock 19 sized, uses 15 round Glock 19 mags?
>>65142716He very clearly stipulated >or mec gar glock mag compatibility
>>65142736Yeah it’s a stupid decision to not use Glock mags but this capacity shit is fucking retarded when normal Glock 19s have 15 rounds.
>>65142387It's not a POS but they're nothing alike in terms of quality. But they're okay .22s if you don't overpay. It's a <$200 gun with a $350 price tag.Also like anon said P99s abound, old and new. Put the Final Edition SKU into gun.deals and find something with cheap shipping, unless you're actually not American>>65142475I'm not aware of any bad manufacturers of tritium sights, the regulation is too overbearing to tolerate fly by nights. Just the cheapest version of the design you like and buy itThe only standout is Night Fission which has the brightest vials, everything else is the same. In fact most vials are made by Trijicon even from other brandsOld data in pic related, probably more have gone out of business or stopped local production to use Trij vials by now>>65142553That's tough. I don't think there's an answer from without, in my experience the motivation has to come from within. I've had periods of years where I just didn't want to go through the hassle. In the winter I hardly go. For me, I just get the bug, get that eureka moment of YES! I need to shoot that, gonna do it, and go do itA new gun helps for awhile :)A very good local range helps long term, one with few rules, few people, low fees and is nearby. It's a luxury many are not blessed with because of draconian regulation where libtards congregate>>65142629I didn't even buy a DWX and that is far more interesting and sexy than that absolute piece
What do we think about vp9?
>>65142350Holy shit, I should watch Miami Vice. Only Miami Vice I've seen is picrel, and I do like it.
Wait its PLASTIC??It literally says the grip is aluminum but THAT IS PLASTICTell me that's just the prototype or something
>>65142350I’m close, at my local match I’m doing shit from concealment AIWB faster than some people do from the low ready.
>>65142778>Wait its PLASTIC??>It literally says the grip is aluminum but THAT IS PLASTICEverybody wants to make their own G19 sized plastic Wonder-9 but with their own twist. Internal hammer's a pretty cool twist, but it's still one of a billion Wonder-9s.
>>65142256They are signed by Sonada, but I dont post on Reddit.
>>65142778that's clearly aluminum, the AR-15 lowers have the same texture on them
>>65142773Very Poor 9
I want a 9 or 10 round steel frame like a beretta cougar in 45 for autism reasons. Please list guns which exist.
>>651428394506
>>65142773Probably the worst 9mm on the market
>>65142838How so?>>65142846Why? Trying to find a hk that’s not a usp.
>>65142778That's what I thought when I first saw it. Maybe it's aluminium but they replicated the sloppiness and textured patches to make the move from polymer pistols easier for officers.>>65142839In production or any?
>>65142850you're talking to two people who can only aford a HiPoints.VP9 is fine and will do the job without any issues but in the end it's like a glock, the difference is you can find glocks for dirt cheap with the police trade in. also the VP9 has more features than a standard glock, you can also consider the P30 if you prefer with an hammer instead of striker handguns
>>65142850There isn't a 9mm on the market worse than the vp9 and that's before you take price into account. It gets mogged to death by whatever shit taurus is putting out
>>65142628>grip safety>year of our lord 1911+115why?
>>65142773second best BP9
>>65142858What about a vp40? It’s caught my attention. It also solves the want of an hk. Ideally I’d get like a p7, but a little rich for my blood right now
>>65142881Just get the vp9 if you're already in love with it. I was fucking with you because it's very popular to hate it here. It's a phenomenal pistol with good aftermarket and everything you would want out of the box. vp9a1 is a workhorse and an artwork.
>>65142874In the youtube video where they announced it they mention the P320's uncommanded discharge problem. So it's kind of a fudd thing (they are 1911 guys after all) and a market overcorrection where they care/boast about safety morow. It's neat as a peace of mind feature for holstering since the internal hammer means you can't thumb a hammer in place, but the fact that it's a hammer gun with a firing pin block already puts it miles ahead safetywise of the P320.
>>65141297The wonder of YouTube >>65141448Yeah I had to watch it at 1.5X speed to tolerate it, still felt like a waste of time
>>65142743Yeah, a gun you can get for about a thousand less than this.
>>65140800I remember a while back they had a video whining about how they had made no profit from the channel after driving and flying so much to film/paying the editor and about how much work it was (despite getting tons of free product, sponsors, and patreon subscriptions). They said they were going to have to charge companies a production cost just to break even lmao. At best they're grossly incompetent at managing finances and at worst they are some of the slimiest shills there are (or both).
>>65142475I have Trijicon Bright & Tough [pictured] for Glock but don't recommend them because they're aluminium in spite of being more expensive than the OEM night sights which are steel. Hi + lo vis hybrids like the TFX Pro might be better but those aren't really a budget option and would make less sense than financing a pistol opticIllegals should go back to their countries
>>65140605How does /k like the VP9? I’ve never shot one but I’ve fingered them at shops many times and it felt amazing in my hand. Fit my grip well and felt good to dry fire.
>>65143005The ergonomic grip is an illusionary benefit that doesn't do much for shootability but does wonders for moving units in stores. The trigger is fine, no complaints there. The spring is MASSIVELY oversprung making the pistol feel super snappy for no reason which really brings it down. I ended up selling mine after trying multiple times to make it work for me
>>65143016I agree ergonomics can be deceiving. I sit a friends Walther PPQ and the ergonomics were uncomfortable. But the VP9 felt much different. Though it may be different from hand to hand.
The night fission rear sight has a set screw in the middle that sticks up and obstructs the front sight on my sig. Is that set screw needed or can I just take it out? Its already tight Why do metal iron sights have set screws and plastic ones dont
>>65143047you can take the set screw out, but it’s probably going to moveare you sure the set screw is biting on the slide of the gun? It shouldn’t be proud of the sightsplastic ones can get away with no set screw because they can be press-fit in the steel dovetail
>>65143066I seriously doubt the sights will move if I pull it out. Screwed in all the way it protrudes a bunch. Maybe I got the wrong length screws but I shouldn't need them
Would you get a hi power or a hk?
>>65143174no
>>65143005My LGS has a used vp9sk with 4 mags for $350 and I've been tempted but I don't really need another compact polymer 9
>>65143174>>65143194
>>65143174Yes
>>65143199Per great deal, but yeah, I already have 3 compacts and I really need a full sized. I have it narrowed down to a simple Glock, beretta, a VP9, or a CZ 75(maybe a P-01).
>>65143206If the full-sized is gonna be a range toy, go CZ. If it's gonna be a home defense gun, get the m9a4
>>65143201What would you get instead?
>>65143210A walther.
>>65143206>P01You mean SP01?
>>65143210Hammer gun? Beretta. Striker? Glawk.
>>65143209It’ll be an all around use gun. I maintain a pet small collection and prefer. It would be a range toy, occasional carry piece, truck gun, and LARP shtf side arm.
>>65143221Nah just the 75 p01
>buy maple grips for my chromed out ghetto blaster >only people who make them are in yuroland >order them anyway because they were like “vat? tariffs? lmao we throw in adidas tracksuit blyat”>oh cool no worries >time passes >they’re coming from Ukraine Fuck.
>>65143224Tanfoglio Stock II
>>65143230Let me just pawn my truck real quick and I’ll buy it
>>65143234Better to buy one nice gun than several not-so-nice guns, but that’s just me. I don’t particularly understand the mindset of buying a bunch of guns instead of just one or two, max, depending on caliber needs/wants.
>>65143246I’m willing to pay enough to avoid a turkshit knock off, but I’m not paying premium prices for a Gucci gun that does the same thing as a mid tier gun hand the price. Plus I’m not super dedicated to guns as a hobby, so I can’t really justify spending a months rent on a safe filler
>>65143278>all guns same>all guns go pow powYeah, you’re right, you aren’t really a hobbyist. Just get whatever looks the coolest in your budget.
>>65143292Can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic but yeah, coolness and larp factor from popular movies is a factor in my decisions making process. Any generic Glock clone striker fired pistol over $500 will cover 99% of functionality requirements, so no need to split hairs and ridiculous prices.
>>65143278Tanfos aren’t Gucci guns by any stretch unless you get their competition pistols. If you’re getting a competition pistol, you aren’t asking here for advice. In that price bracket, they’re a solid choice. Their entry-level Gucci shit are the Xtremes followed by Master followed by actual Gucci Master Xtreme. It’s the CZ model of competition pricing (CZ 75 to Shadow to TS). But, then again, that’s all competition marksmanship pistols. If you’re into that sort of thing, you aren’t asking here for advice as a general rule. I believe the only competitors in this thread that regularly compete are the Glock brigade in their own tournaments. Which is an option and is always fun.
>>65143227wew
>>65143174The Springfield's new shortened hi power variant is an interesting offer.
>>65143174Neither.
>>65143308No, I’m dead serious. If you aren’t really a hobbyist then you should just get whatever you think is the coolest because that’s what you’ll be happiest with. It’s like >>65143316 implied, once you get into this shit then your priorities change a great deal depending on what you value. I value accuracy above all else, so I like Tanfoglio because I shoot straighter with one than CZ (and got into all this because I thought CZ75s were cool and found Tanfoglio as a clone due to being in Texas and close to a distributor). I haven’t wanted to purchase another pistol since buying my Tanfoglio. There’s no need, but I only want to be accurate. I don’t want to LARP around and have a carry piece to take innawoods or have a truck gun. If I DID want to LARP around innawoods, I would get a Stock II because I know it’s highly accurate and can withstand stupid amounts of rounds being fired without failure over the course of a day coupled with being a fucking brick which I personally like. I’m not fond of polymer pistols and lightweight blasters, but that’s my personal shooting style. But I don’t care about that, so I wouldn’t buy one. I don’t need it. If I buy something else, it’ll be some Gucci shit like a FK BRNO field pistol or Manurhin or meme custom 1911 because I think that’s cool.
10 @15yds, ehh shooting day, done better done worse. Finally told the chick I'm talking to about my autistic interest in guns, reloading, and long range shooting and she thought it was cool. Maybe we are gunna make it
If I wanted to get into competitive shooting, which one should I pick and which gun would I need?
>>65143174get a Grand Power
>>65143358Find out what type of competition you’re most interested in. Look at who is winning those competitions and see what they shoot. Finger fuck those guns at a gun shop and get what fits your mitts the best. You might not be able to finger fuck those exact guns, but you should be able to finger fuck a gun that has the same frame excepting tanfos because they’re too niche unless you get lucky. Competition pistols can come from the factory with the competition parts, but they are also sold in abundance so don’t fret over the parts since if you’re serious about competition you’ll know the pistol inside and out and eventually figure out what to replace with what as you git gud.
>>65143350>NO RAPID FIRE
>>65143358The easiest way to get your foot in the door in competitive shooting is probably Steel Challenge. You only need a gun and a holster and some magazines, and some places might just let you shoot from gun-on-table and forego the holster. Some divisions also don't require holsters, such as the rimfire ones. What gun to get depends on the division you intend to shoot, but you should just attend with whatever gun you have and shoot that division where it's legal. You're not going to be good enough at the start for gear to really matter. If you really care, though, I'd say the meta for Carry Optics (the largest division) is mostly Shadows/Glocks/XFive Legions, with a smattering of Walthers and maybe a Beretta. It varies by region, though. If you don't want to only shoot Steel Challenge, most large shooting clubs will also have an intro to USPSA class every month or so, so just ask around for that. Your local club might have a profile up on Practiscore where the schedule should be posted.
>>65143398The range jew charges extra for the rapid fire lanes.
>>65143358Literally any gun, there is a lot of competitions and some not anal about rules other than safety. Some guns are easier to shoot than others, but you might learn a lot more from shooting a carry or duty type gun versus a Staccato XC. At my local chill competition, it might have been my fault for creating a 2011 arms race where I beat people with my 1911 and my PX4 and now suddenly everyone is shooting compensated 2011s.
>>65143403Grim!
>>65143406Kinda depends. There’s a lot of cops around me and their departments all get Staccato deals. They just shoot their duty piece and do very well, but it’s not the XC. I believe they all have the HD. Some of them have tweaked it out. Staccato is a scam of the highest order, though. They get the “thin blue line” and sheepdog types by selling quality guns for stupid cheap to police/sheriff’s departments and making up the difference selling to civilians at a hilarious markup. It’s 100% not worth it as a competition pistol since you can get objectively better performance for thousands less.
>>65143210They're two totally disparate guns. Almost could not be more different. Why not decide what type, weight, size and price of gun you want first and then which model?
>>65143422>selling quality guns for stupid cheap to police/sheriff’s departments and making up the difference selling to civilians at a hilarious markup
>>65143433HK might have been the teacher, but the pupil has surpassed the master. The civilian markup for a staccato is 600%, minimum.
>>65143437$700 police trade in Staccatoswhen
I wanted a 10mm, is this a terrible choice?
>>65143433Wasn't that always Glock's thing?
>>65143444Checked and should be all right
>>65143438Whenever the next meme drops. Then you’ll have a 2011 that fails to cycle only half as often as other 2011s unless you use cum lube then it fails to cycle just as often.
>>65143438This is the same area where Disneyland is located btw
>>65143438southpaw chads win againdextroids mad and poor
>>65143444No. If my very used M&P 45 can handle .45 Supers, a 2.0 10mm will hold up. I prefer M&P ergonomics over Glocks, but Glock wins in aftermarket parts.
>>65143446Yes, it was done by Glock, S&W, Sig, basically everyone did and is still doing this
>>65143428Both hammer fired. Both full size. Price irrelevant. One is slightly heavier. Hk has a capacity advantage but not by much.
>>65143481You forgot the obvious similarity: they're both considerably overpriced
>>65142773As someone with a VP9, APX (original), P320 (M17), two Glock 19s (Gen 5, and Gen 4), two Glock 17s (Gen 5 and Classic), M&P40 and a Walther PDP compact, I would say that they rank from best to worst>Glock 19 Gen 5>Glock 19 Gen 4>Glock 17 Gen 5>VP9>PDP Compact>M17>Glock 17 Classic>APX>MP40The VP9 is great but I think the PDP will probably outrank it the more I practice with it Of course the 92FS, USP, and P226 shit on all these in my opinion
>>65143446
>>65143488Get yoself a PX4 Compact
It appears the vp9's superiority has caused some controversy
>>65143497I dunno, I think I can count on one finger the number of VP9 shills I've seen in /hg/
>>65143504I gotta use both hands for the glock payroll posters
>>65143504HK enjoyers and strikerslop enjoyers have almost no overlap, especially not around these parts.
>>65143495I'm talking strictly full size/compact striker 9mm/40/.45 guns and I generally only have the earlier mentioned 3, PPK, Five-seveN, micro 9 strikers, .22LR semi auto handguns, a 1911, and a couple revolvers for comparison
Here is the H&K VP9 in action. As you can see, both wielders failed the Tueller Drill AKA 21-foot Rule and the perpetrator survived. Serious shooters don't use the VP9>>65143452I thought Lube's coom was GTG, how would it cause failures to cycle?>>65143455Figures, it's So Cal after all>>65143457Kek, hadn't noticed before
>>65143555>hits so hard perp is lifted off his feetGlonk could never
>>65143555Most cops aren't serious shooters to begin withAlthough I have met a few and I respect their skills
>>65143574>>65143571Dumbass pigs should have stepped back around 50 yards on that crowded platform and tossed buddy a 2-way to ask him what the hell he was doing Kek deeply unserious pigs
>>65143555How come they don't wear some kind of martial arts pads on their forearms to stop short blades swung by retards? It's human nature to throw your arms up to block shit. Back during the riots, I remember seeing footage of some antifa with one of those extendable batons swinging at some big proud boy and Cletus just parried his shit like it was Dark Souls with one of those pads on his arm and knocked him out in one punch, I swear I saw the video posted here before.
The only LEOs I've met that were any good at shooting were all prior military.
>>651435552011s have the same problem with thick lube as a 1911 but even worse: if it’s thick it causes failures since the bits don’t play nice with each other but you don’t have the extra gas a .45 produces. It’s why “hand-fitted” became a thing amongst 1911 fans and why those pistols now cost an arm and a leg, the parts don’t play nice with each other at all unless they’re hand-fitted. Any off-the-shelf 2011 will have failures, if you use thick lube then those failure increase exponentially thanks to the cum lube being thick. You have to actually think about how you lube those things rather than just blasting it with jizz.
>>65142650>Do you have other hobbies?Racing, but it is kind of why I got into firearms. Everything I have tied up into firearms is only a small fraction of what it would cost to buy a spec Miata and even compete in maybe two races. I also like vidya, but I just don't care anymore about it.>you should probably change things in your environmentI don't know how to anon. Even if I sold all of my worldly possessions I would only have about $20k which isn't enough to move somewhere new. I have a degree in IT, but I have been a NEET since the pandemic started becuase I graduated a month or two since it all kicked off. It is easier for you to just call me a loser and move on anon. ty for you time though.>>65142746Yeah winters are really hard here to go to the range. State I live in has no public land so it is kind of impossible to even o do that sadly.
>>65143612There’s better firearms to get into on a fixed budget than pistols. /brg/ might be more your speed, depending on how fast and loose you like to play. Otherwise, the easiest way to get out of the house and involved in the community is to buy a glock and then go to glock tournaments. The rich boomers there might hook you up with a job.
>>65140605Talk me out of it /k/. It's $500 and I wanted the Radian that comes later this month but it's double the cost for just a few different changes. Good pick?
>>65140605Who's the faggo that endlessly posts HG related garbage bait-slop threads like picrel?
>>65143642Snapbin
>>65143630>canikYou are brown.
>>65143481Price is always relevant. One costs less and is made entirely of steel, the other costs even more and is made of plastic. But you are right in one way, they both have substandard triggersPick one that's cooler to you. I agreed 'no' earlier because neither is very cool to me and I virtually never desire to shoot mine
The only H&K that was ever great is the USP.
>>65143630There are other guns that are not canik.
>>65143630>Canikjust save your $500
>>65143630Respectfully brother, if you're not buying a Staccato why are you spending money?
Man the beretta bucks rebates sound good. But theyre always out of the threaded barrel
>>65143671Nta but You need some cheapo turk gun to use for home defense ok that note how long does your gun stay in the evidence room before the police give it to you?
>>65142746I actually was playing with the DWX at the LGS this weekend. It is pretty sexy but I never hear anyone talk about it
>>65143602>pads on their forearms to stop short bladesThe more riot gear you wear, the more difficult 99% of the job description becomes>>65143611So the lube effectively alters the clearances and timing? I had always thought fitting was a product of imprecise manufacturing, didn't realize it plagues certain designs to this day!>>65143650That wasn't me, I haven't been the OP of a non-general in years
>>65143630the ech better
>>65143688Was being the operative word
>>65140741Big “I still owe money on my 2013 Harley Davidson edition F150” energy
Anyone have experience with the colt new agent or other small .45 colts? Ive been eyeing one up but have concerns about reliability of 45 in a short 1911
>>65143555Kek I've been to this transit center. This is probably the whitest part of Bellevue. It's been taken over by the third world and in 20 years will probably be just as shit as Seattle.>>65143611I really don't think that's a thing anon. You could probably run a 2011 with lithium grease.>>65143816Gottem
Fuck you guys HK calls me an operator. They’re there for me, they understand me
>>65143856The operator does not concern himself with the opinion of users.
i am so lonely
>>65143908You are so filtered
>>65143688checked, (You) are beyond clueless>>65143816(You) too namefag
>>65140701>Spending 50 minutes glazing a new HK pistol>Kochsucker expecting anyone to listen to all that shit>>65140741>You gonna shit talk?NTA, but yeah, I think I will. Like why not?
>>65142628>agressive BRICKLOL, LMAO actually.
>>65143908wadup bonequest, i did those drills at 20 yards today and it went really well
Tanfoglio is such an underrated brand. I love my Tanfo so much!
>>65143958underrated to you just means it isnt mentioned here.
>>65143422>thousands less Staccatos aren’t that much. They’re literally entry level tier
>>65143963Because Americans don't have a good Tanfoglio importer, maybe? Some IPSC shooter like Tanfoglio over CZ
Does anyone have a sig P220? Are they worth the price?
>>65143958I used to carry an old one. Unfortunately the only pictures I have left are from atf threads.
I've been on the fence about getting a G19 Gen 6 and mounting an optic like an RMR on it and passing down my TLR-7A from my Glock 19 Gen 5And also getting a 43x MOS with something similar.
>>65143995Get the aimpoint COA. It’s the best.
>>65143999I've handled some with the COA but it rubs me off the wrong way because it's big and blocky
just bought a spare mateba unica barrel. now time to find a mateba unica for a reasonable price
>>65143957>wadup bonequestNot much, /k/. Im just playing the waiting game to see if I get this interview>i did those drills at 20 yardsThe stress reload drills but live firing instead of dry firing? I hope your brother didn’t flake this time btw
>>65144000It’s less big and blocky than the RCR or the ACRO it replaced, it functionally has a bigger window than the ACRO, mounts lower than the RCR or ACRO, as low as an EPS really, but with a more robust mounting system. It’s so far the best mating of a dot to a slide to date.
>>65144007yeah, moving and shooting. it was pretty fun tbqh. the range is secluded so no one was around to bitch at me. i still don't think i could get away with a Bill Drill but i was drawing and shooting pairs at sim speed. the rso's are cool with me doing those at least. very good day!
>>65142874I actually really like grip safeties on 1911/2011s, you can hold the gun in a way to not depress the grip safety when holstering to prevent a ND even if the manual safety is off.
>>65144034>very good day!That’s nice to hear for a change. Even though you prob had some fun with your compost bin project, I bet it doesn’t beat shooting. I wonder how your .243 practice went if you ever touched it. You mentioned it before All this gun talk makes me wish I had money again. You would hate my choice of firearms
>>65144124.243 practice went well, i was pretty spent towards the end. i need to get a bipod or something for it at some point. what is your choice in firearms?
>>65143853How unfortunate!>>65143908I don't know who you are but am glad you weren't around during the height of the conflict
>>65143991 malboro reds are chemical trash. i love them so much it's unreal.greeting from kazkhstan
>>65143707The issue with the DWX is that it's priced about $500 too high for what it is. Late to the striker-fire game
>>65144238DWX isn’t striker fired.
>>65144235I quit for a long time but started up again a week ago. This girl I was seeing got jealous of something and then massively overreacted. I'm quitting again once these are gone.
>>65143958I need to buy a compact tangolfio but I also need to get my car fixed>>65143991Nice tanfimblo
>>65144002Why didn't I think of this?
>>65144132>what is your choice in firearms?I always had pretty bad taste so I’ll keep it to myself for now. Let me tell you a story. Once upon a time, I made friends with a /mu/ anon and we talked for hours non-stop. The moment I mentioned my music taste I got immediately unfriended
>>65144317i promise you i won't judge xD also it may be time for a throwaway discord or something. i only have so many on-topic responses for /k/ /hg/.
>>65143628>There’s better firearms to get into on a fixed budget than pistols. /brg/ might be more your speed,I own two FALs and a Garand in 308. Handguns are far more affordable to shoot.
>>65143707Here. It's great.
>>65144350Yall are goofy with the tape.
>>65144350>made in Norwich, NY>the new financial ground zero scapegoat for the upcoming recessionhttps://www.timesunion.com/business/article/nbt-bank-customers-irate-duplicate-transactions-22208164.phpThis is where it all starts. NBT is mostly retirement account management and small part regional bank.They're another piece of the fall of fiat puzzle.
>>65144370t. No shoots
>>65144322>also it may be time for a throwaway discord or somethingROFL I deleted discord awhile ago. I dont have any plans to go back rn. I’m not avoidant or anything, just really unemployed. If you don’t want to bother the people here with our boring talk, there’s self improvement general if you remember seeing that
>>65144382okie dokie, tactically relocating assets now andd I'M IN.i have to go by the lgs tomorrow and grab some more ammo. they had decent pricing last week so i wanna grab a few more boxes. i think i have a range trip wednesday barring weather.
>>65144381I shoot a ton and you can just wipe it off. Unless you’re going multiple range trips without at least wiping it down. idk I clean my pistols more than my rifles.
>>65144370>>65144397I used to think it was retarded but eventually it does permanently fog the lens or get some unwashable carbon on it.>>65144374They seem to be investing in their marketing and website a bit of late at least. They run that company as retarded as possible, it's honestly impressive. 0 marketing, 0 parts support, but a really fucking cool design with an awesome trigger.
>>65144408What light do you have?
>>65144416X300 ultra and turbo. I don't buy the streamlights because they're not surefire basically.
>>65144475>>65144475>>65144475>>65144475>>65144475>>65144475
>>65144418My streamlight doesn’t do that.
