Why does America mog everyone so hard militarily? Is it just natural resources or some specific doctrine, like the thing about individual squads being able to take the initiative while in other large countries the upper levels of command are terrified of ambitious junior officers and discourage decision making by NCOs and juniors? I remember hearing somewhere that Rome had a similar policy, and I'm wondering if there's a connection.
because we're just better
>>65141126Money and paranoia Change or achmed or ivan says they've got a new superweapon, lying, and the dumb shits here will spend the money to counter it. Inventing new expensive tech to counter fantasies.
Other people have America protecting them so they don't need to invest much. Out of NATO please.
>>65141170Imagine what could happen if someone credibly convinced the US government aliens were real and an invasion imminent. We would have the Trump-Class Star Destroyer floating in orbit within two years.
>>65141196 Who says we don't already
We were the only ones to get the Industrial Revolution right. In the 1910’s Cadillac took two of their cars to Britain, took them apart to the bolt, and rebuilt them at random and British car makers were amazed. Interchangeable high quality parts was science fiction to Euros. No one else sees the big picture of good product and efficiency at the same time. Being an industrialized society, your people are simply more educated on machinery/technology simply by existing around it. Damage control crews in the navy need to operate a small motorized pump, but if they’re knocked out or not around, anyone else can pick up the pump and use it because Hillbilly Bob used to run a tractor. Other armies needed specific training and no one else knew how to use it. Euros have to train tankers how to drive because there’s a good chance they never grew up with a car. Our concept of Freedom also gives more agency to soldiers down to the individual level. We have the ability to figure out the initiative and act on it instead of waiting for orders. In Battle of the Bulge, US combat engineers picked up a rifle and fought back while blowing up important bridges immediately. While British and French engineers ran away, paralyzed without being told what to do.
>>65141275Self-awareness is another thing. Your image reminded me of that. Americans can make fun of ourselves and aren't a face culture. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoHOVUKOc0MThe Germans, the Chinese, the Soviets, all represent themselves in their war productions as muscular gigachads and supermen, the US serviceman was represented by a pudgy caricature or a cartoon animal. Somehow, not giving a fuck about image makes us a more effective military.
>>65141265>tractor beam engages on screaming asteroid pirates who fail to avoid the Martian Blockade Fleet>THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER blares over their loudspeakers
The US had the advantage of having a massive "empty" landmass to fully exploit. This occurred at the same time as the development of capitalism and the industrial revolution, with America acting as a giant blank slate, allowing people to pursue their ambitions many steps removed from the stifling established order/power structures of the old world. The population was allowed to grow in relative safety with ample access to resources and a massive frontier to absorb migration and act as a safety valve to social unrest. This resulted in a power that was able to grow larger than all other industrial nations, protected from rivals by oceans, while still connected to Europe through history, migration, and trade.By the 20th century, France was far past its prime, and by World War 1, it became clear that Britain did not have the population or industrial base to continue as the premier world power. Germany twice attempted to supplant Britain's status, large, but not large enough on its own, its leaders aimed to unite the massive population/industrial might of Europe under German leadership, but regional rivals and the US, opposed this. Japan attempted something similar, but suffered a similar fate to Germany.The Soviet Union/Russia had a large enough population, and a large and resource-filled enough land mass, but their geographic location, their semi-occupation of Eastern Europe, and their nation full of ethnic divisions more due to taking over Imperial Russia's borders and not through migration, made their nation a lot less stable. That's not even touching on the viability of Soviet Communism.Allow all of the benefits from America's geographic advantages to continue for a few hundred years, and you've got the world's largest economic, industrial, and military power, while all other rivals are hamstrung and limited in many different ways.It'll be interesting to see what occurs with China in the 21st century, but I would in no way bet against the USA.
>>65141126self motivation and initiative, partially genetic, partially cultural. England has proven to me that it's not a whites vs nonwhites thing, anyone in the cockney lower class who tries to improve their station gets taken down, and not always from the upper class doing it it's other lower class Brits doing it.I've gathered enough that other European countries do stuff like that on a lower level. It's as if all the self motivation genetics made their way here. There's also the post ww2 doctrine of not letting any opponent have initiative, we had next to no army beforehand and had to rapidly expand, the idea that if we had the 1943 us army in 1941 the war would have been a lot quicker or dissuade the axis
>>65141126America has basically an ideal location and arrangement for either defense or offense. Original culture strongly favored military experience. Shit load of natural resources. It's not a big mystery
>>65141126The cold war + the MIC, every other country was rebuilding after WW2 while the US was getting ready for WW3 and congress found a way to personally get richer from increasing military spending.
>>65141196>Imagine what could happen if someone credibly convinced the US government aliens were real and an invasion imminentthey don't need convincing, they're already freaking the fuck out because they're here and nothing we have can even touch them
>>65141126>Why does America mog everyone so hard militarily?Funding and logistics. All there is to it.
>>65141126War is, more often than not, pay to win.
>>65141126>Why does America mog everyone so hard militarily?We spend a fucking stupidly retarded amount of money on it, that's why. I don't think it's possible to spend 1.2 oh wait sorry, 1.5 trillion dollars on the military somehow still have a shit military.Even if HALF of that money was/is purely corrupted capital and never went directly to the military, you'd STILL be outspending every other individual country on Earth by several times.
>>65141336>Germany twice attempted to supplant Britain's status, large, but not large enough on its own, its leaders aimed to unite the massive population/industrial might of Europe under German leadership, but regional rivals and the US, opposed this. Japan attempted something similar, but suffered a similar fate to Germany.This is the weirdest spelling of "Chimped out because they didn't have any colonies" I've ever seen. PS, Great Britain had higher industrial output that Germany in every single year from the start of the industrial revolution to WWII. Germany had a higher population, but was much less productive, poorly governed and ill lead.
>>65141450Most countries get less value per dollar out of their militaries than the US, which is really fucking depressing when you think about it.
>>65141126Is that real ?
>>65141126Everyone else who could've been a competitor got fucked up by WW2.American industry came out unscathed because it was protected by the Atlantic & Pacific oceans.
>>65141126>Why does America mog everyone so hard militarily?Seriously? Have you never heard of this?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expendituresIt's not as bad now, but for years, especially back in the '80s during the Reagan era, the US used to spend more militarily than the rest of the world combined.
>>65141471Yes
>>65141126Free security. Imagine all the resources that you can devote to building a purely offensive, expeditionary military to impose your will all over the world when you have an ocean on either side of you and the neighbors that you do have to share a border with possess a fraction of your wealth and manpower. There aren't really any other countries that lucked out geographically the way the US did.
>>65141126While the Jews claim to be the Chosen Ones, history makes it pretty clear that it's the Americans that have God's favor.
>>65142053seeing the relationship swing to the point where Israel is actually America's proxy has been insane
>>65142115>the billionaire businessman who everyone underestimates constantly is actually good at power politics and ruthless renegotiationWhy is anyone surprised by any of this?
>>65141126>Why does America mog everyone so hard militarily?Because of multiple alliance networks, MIC cooperstion and bases that they used 80+ year to build but which they threw out of the window because of Russian disinformation and spite.
>>65142175Just carry your own weight Euronigger, just be slightly less useless fucking mongs
>>65141463No not really, economy of scale and all that
>>65141275>Euros have to train tankers how to drive because there’s a good chance they never grew up with a car.Have you ever been outside of the US? Americans cant even drive a manual/stick-shift car.
>>65142178Eurocope levels rising
>>65142180Oh lord the Eurofaggot is going through the thread getting progressively madder at his Yankee masters. The gas prices will go up until you have satisfied Emperor Donald's requirements for your conscript levies, peasant.
>>65142177>Carry the weightSorry we dont have mobility scooters.
>>65142182Thought we didnt have cars? So why would we care about gas prices?
>>65142185Then I'm afraid that you will have accessibility issues of your own, relating to the o i l passing through the new Strait of America.
>>65141196It's always highly amusing to watch movies where humans (successfuly)fight aliens, when in reality it would be like>Alien civilization visits earth for whatever reason>if any violence would ensure, any opposition including the US of A would be deleted in mere hours, days at best, as we are dealing with a civilization that is technologically advanced enough to travel intergalactic distances>Aliens" ah, yes, as we were saying before this minor interruption..."
>>65141126Americans love solving problems by throwing money at them.The US military gets more money thrown at it than everyone else combined.
>>65142192The strait you’re absolutely not in control of? The same strait that is fully controlled by Iran? The same Iran whose nuclear program you said was effectively stopped in July? The same Iran whose missile launching capabilities are 60-70% intact according to the CIA and that can keep the strait closed for at least 4 more months? That strait?
All these euroshits should just be nuked at this point.
>>65141126Europe fucked itself and we were there to lend money.Tons of resources are great and so is an ocean, but really, it was europe's crown to lose.
>>65142214More likely the idea of war has never occurred to them and once they portal here they send their strongest debater to conquer us only for him to get shot.
>>65142226>The strait you’re absolutely not in control of?Never heard of that one. The Strait of America, formerly the Strait of Hormuz, is being both successfully blockaded by the USA and American ships are traversing it freely, what more sign of controling it do you need? There is no Strait controlled by Iran, Iran's nuclear program got buried in missile strikes, and whatever missiles Iran has left according to CIA reports DESIGNED TO KEEP THE WAR FUNDED by playing up the threat as they do literally every time couldn't stop Americans traversing it. Face it, you lost.
>>65141126>Why does America mog everyone so hard militarily?Because you live life on easy mode.>gigantic continent sized country>absurd natural resources including self-sufficient oil>protected by 2 oceans>neighbours are canadians and mexicans>massive amounts of manpower thanks to immigration>never been seriously challenged or attacked so population hasn't been depleted mentally or physically like france and germany in ww1 and 2>paranoid as fuck so you spend absurd amounts of money on military and R&D and pay tons of money to smart immigrants to come and invent even more powerful weapons>snowball rolls downhill for a century or moreAnd there you go. Remains to be seen how long this will last now that the gilded age is returning.
>>65142238if the US decides who goes through the strait and has full control why are there so many ships still blocked?
>>65141275Fatnik take
>>65142255Because it is rapidly becoming more economical and easy to insure just having ships go to America and buy American oil.
>>65142238This is what late stage imperialism looks like - you just rule foreign lands - in your head.
>>65142264>conomical and easy to insure just having ships goholy ESL
The relentless and desperate Eurobaiting we see online and even in the pages of the WSJ is nothing more than state propaganda to try and convince Americans that they don't live in a failing state with a kleptocratic corrupt elite, disintegrating institutions and a social contract in tatters.
>>65141126Lots of money.
>>65142238>>65142192>>65142177This is dirlewangerfag btw.
>>65142300you mean "I only had one friend in my unit, told him about my plan to just start killing browns and freaked him out so bad he went and told on me"-fag
>>65141450>Even if HALF of that money was/is purely corrupted capital and never went directly to the military, you'd STILL be outspending every other individual country on Earth by several times.Nice "Yeah, But."Don't try to be clever with your thinly veiled insults.
>>65142304I mean I always figured his whole platoon dobbed him in because he was weird and dysgenically ugly. Like the kind of ugly you can only achieve by specifically breeding for the worst human traits imaginable.
>>65141484Don't discount the decision to get involved in yet another Yurp war. If we'd stayed neutral and not ended up sharing our R&D and production with the world you'd still be burning horse dung to stay warm in your stick house. Say "Thank You Secretary Marshall" for your chance to compete.
>>65142168Because we're the fat drooling bastard step-children whose ancestors were kicked out of their countries for daring to try to improve themselves without first securing proper permission from their inbred gods. Like they wouldn't rape, pillage, and loot the next town over for a "Baywatch" boxed set. So sophisticated.
>>65142226Read some books: The Prince by Niccolo Machiavelli, The Art of War by Sun Tzu, The Art of the Deal by God Emperor Donald the First. You should have no trouble finding the colouring book editions at your local news agent.
>>65142287saaar your google translate is malfunctioning>>65142286What are you on about? We aren't here to "rule" you savages, we're blockading you successfully.
How much of these threads are just the same fag arguing with himself to keep it bumped and try to stir up dissonance.
>>65142300>>65142304>>65142308Did you take a picture of yourself to spin this fanfiction about everyone who points out correctly that Europe is not carrying its own weight? That's really sad.
>>65142297You would have lost 15 social credit points if you'd complained about your government's policies openly, you know. Well done, Anon. But, in the end, you're still only complaining.
>>65142344How much of these threads are that one schizo Mitt Romney intern venting his Trump Derangement Syndrome?
>>65142300Are you ban evading after getting walls of posts deleted in multiple threads about how strong and implessive China is?
>>65141126>become obsessed with loser German doctrine that lost two world wars back to back>emulate loser doctrine>lose every war launched since German obsession began.Reminder that Desert Storm was a textbook battle in the style of /ourautist/.
>>65141367>they're here and nothing we have can even touch themTrue. I saw Independence Day.
>>65142345>who points out correctly that Europe is not carrying its own weightlol, lmao even
>>65141471Yes, we have giant eagles, just like in LotR. Oh, and they love us because we feed them baby communists.
>>65142180Yet mine is a 6 speed manual and I'm American.
>>65141431>>65142222Double whammy. And I just got a $1000 sign-on bonus from one of the big boys, just by saying I have 2 oth e r offers. They money really does trickle down, eventually.
>>65142328>wouldn't rape, pillage, and loot the next town overIt's sad, really. If the vikings had unighted instead of fighting themselves, they would have ruled the world just like Hitler wanted for his '1000 year reich'. Instead Finland, Sweden, Norway, Holland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania were a House Divided. Pity, really.
>>6514234442.
>>65142214if aliens were to actually visit us, it would go one of two ways.1: they visit us with a relativistic kill missile and we all die before we can even realize what's happening.2: they visit in person, this means they have come in peace, if we attempt to fight them, we will lose because they have the highground, high-ISP propulsion and none of our weapons would even reach them, they could literally just keep changing orbit without even retaliating against us and we wouldn't be able to do anything.
>>65142345Europe has 1.5 million men under armsthe US has 70k men under arms in Europe, 2/3 of whom are there facilitate US logistics to the rest of the world please explain to me how the Europeans aren't pulling their weight in an alliance meant to defend Europe in order to keep the commies away from the Atlantic
>>65141196>>65141367One of the first executive prerogatives Clinton persued was to demend the USAF reveal if UFOs were real or not. They were not... I can't believe they lied to the President, he has the highest clearance of anyone! Not it turn out these fuckin things are all over, esp western US?
>>65142418>it would go one of two waysYou haven't read much science fiction and have a very limited imagination. You probably never heard of Pierson's Puppeteers or the Birthright Lottery.
>>65142388A slow failure that Americans won for him?
>>65142344All of them, and it's all dirlewangerfag.
>>65142345>>65142362Yup, that's confirmation. This is a dirlewangerfag thread.
>>65141196>he doesn't know
>>65142411Cool premise. What if, indeed. Were they partitioned or otherwise prevented from working together by the Church or powerful guilds? All I have are my base-level history books to try to understand.
the usa being a superpower is a relatively recent development, for the most of its history it had been relegated to regional power, at least up until the end of ww1. many factors were at play, namely the swelling of the population and exploitation of their vast natural resources through new technologies. the giant expenditure of the military is an offshoot of late ww2 industrial momentum+convenient arms race immediatly after it against soviet russia. the fear towards totalitarian communist regimes and a nuclear war further exhacerbated that. NATO can be considered the main driving force behind the humongous military the USA now possesses, and i have no doubt that, were it dissolve tomorrow, the usa armed forces would so with it.
>>65142180>Americans cant even drive a manual/stick-shift car.this isn't the case in small town and rural america, which is most of the country and where the military recruits from.
>>65142919lmao, absolutely delusional
>>65142923sorry city bro, dip cup squad supremacy
>>65141315>not giving a fuck about image makes us a more effective military.uh oh better not let the admin hear that
>>65142919This isn't the case anywhere. Learning stick is an afternoon of trial and error. Not some esoteric gotcha like the yuros like to jerk off about. Or the boomer scenario where some city slicker dies in a happening because the last car available is a manual.
>>65142470How come China spent most of its history ruled by foreigners, chink?
>>65142595Not quite, what divided them was "I, Bjorn, want to be king of [country], [country] is ruled by Sven, but Sven is off in England or something handling his holdings there, so civil war it is." Then Sven's nobles go "Okay Sven is pretty powerful and bribed us a bunch to get that way, but now that he's powerful he doesn't share enough and could theoretically take away our land and power, so we'll support Bjorn to start a bribe bidding war." Now these nobles know they are hindering Sven from creating a North Sea empire that stretches beautifully across the map, but why should they care? The concept of a modern nation as something all of the people living in it are invested in didn't exist, as far as the nobles are concerned the king's conquests are for the most part his personal property and therefore not their problem, and this applies to not just Europe but medieval and Early Modern societies in general. Then, to bring it back to the vikings specifically, from what I remember the infighting became extensive even as their conquests started getting pushed back when people realized that guys with ships and not even the rudimentary siege equipment of the day were fucked trying to take a well-sited castle and started fortifying anywhere they could get to (which also created a headache for kings like Sven because now all of their nobles want to build castles from which they could theoretically bar the king and further assert their own rights). The end result was Scandinavian kings selling all of their land to Germanic dukes and living in shacks on the beach and losing wars to leagues of merchant cities funded by the herring and beeswax trade.
>>65142931>seething because Iran isn't getting pallets of cashYour prophet was a pedo who bottomed for jeets, lower your tone.
>>65142931Is this the Mittens intern who's deeply invested in Ukraine and hates Trump only because Mitt's nephew was doing the exact same thing Hunter Biden did, or the chink who spams walls of text about how they totally did the raping and didn't get conquered constantly by foreigners and seethes about jets? I know you're a retarded shill, I just want to know which one you are.
>>65142986You're not going to get much headway shrieking at people who call you out and calling them chinks. Your posting style is too well known, everyone can smell your shitposts a mile away.
>>65141126Reserve currency status allows that we can pay for everything essentially with IOUs. I am sure every one in the world would like to have military/tech like the US but every one else has to balance this against fiscal pressures and responsibilities. Pretty sweet position to be in.
>>65143034You are literally shilling for China, why? Why would some /pol/nig be dabbing on you for the universally held opinion on /k/ that China is a joke and Europe needs to actually invest in its own defense? It's such a bizarre coping strategy on your part, if that faggot hasn't killed himself (or is just you false-flagging) he would be on your side because /pol/ loves thirdies and hates white Americans.
>>65143058Because it's the Mittens intern who got fired for literally being schizophrenic. Scroll up, he was ranting about Russia earlier and how The Establishment totally knew best by letting the situation get as bad as it did.
>>65143034go post another wall of text about how 10000000 chinks managed to catch some Japanese refugees and raped them because it's the only win your pathetic excuse for a race ever had, Hapanda.
>>65143058>>65143062>>65143065>shilling for china Is this where you're going lol?
>>65143034How come Trump's wars are all successes while the forever wars of the uniparty all failed? Just while we have an actual, unironic Democrat shill here.
>>65143077You could stop, maybe take your meds? This shit cost you one job already, man, you want it to make your life worse?
>>65141126>like the thing about individual squads being able to take the initiative while in other large countries the upper levels of command are terrified of ambitious junior officers and discourage decision making by NCOs and juniors?thats universal to NATO and more strongly emphasised in the scandis>>65141275>In Battle of the Bulge, US combat engineers picked up a rifle and fought back while blowing up important bridges immediately. While British and French engineers ran away, paralyzed without being told what to do.bullshit, american troops ran away and didnt stop til they ran into the british units transferred to the meuse crossing.
>>65143142No it isn't, especially since the Scandis barely have a military. You can't beg the US for help with one breath and then try to rewrite history out of butthurt at Europe's real military impotence the next.
>>65143023none abovejust having a laff
This thread is /pol/-bait spam like all the other shit we've been getting.
>>65143125>>65143129Lmao, I've never seen anyone samefag and screech like this before. Genuine mental illness. Sorry Robert, you're going to keep getting called out because everyone knows it's you, and this new role of false flagging as the most annoying and jingoistic american ever is pretty transparently you.It's funny how you pretend to not know you've been called out though.
>>65143129Post guns.
>>65143228>>65143235>>65143186The blockade will remain in place and Iran will continue losing.
>>65143285That's nice, post a gun
>>65143228it's funny to me as a Robert that the chicom equivalent of saying Chang is my name. Can you use Bob instead though since that's what I go by?
Good thing i bought an electric. Gasfags on suicidewatch rn.
>>65143300Cool. Post your gun
>>65141126air-land battle
>>65143290Hell yeah, my posts here go back long before a certain schizophrenic Mitt Romney intern showed up here to spam angrily about how Drumpf made his boss look bad, and LONG before that /pol/ faggot tried to simp for authoritarian faggots and bandits. You need a better name for him, though. Dirlwanger sounds like of like Dickwrangler. I have been shitting on Russia and China for well over 10 years, long before communist faggots started using Russia as an excuse to shill their gungrabber policies here.
>>65143328>"10 years">Doesn't even know how to post gunYou need to go back.
>>65143315Happy to. Different gun, same table. This dirty old patio table has btfo many a commie and it will do its patriotic duty again today. Have my sausagey stub of a thumb too, may its rosy sheen prove my caucasian ancestry to all devils foreign and domestic.
>>65143338Well over ten years. Not ten years, well over them. God I think I first started posting on this site back in '08? Regardless, all authoritarian governments are for people with daddy issues. Free men should live free. If saying this upsets you, well, kill yourself.
>>65143349>foot visiblepack it up he's an actual oldfag, damn it shareblue we can't keep losing like this
>>65143349You don't understand how schizophrenics work. He has decided that you're his invisible enemy, so now you are, and in the future owning a M&P will be proof of being a secret russian nazi or whatever.
This is exessive levels of samefagging.
>>65143376Yeah it's wild seeing that one leftist retard try to pretend multiple people could be as mentally ill as he is. I've posted two of my guns now, I wonder if he will post any or if being medicated for schizophrenia put him on some kind of list where he can't do a Form 4473, in which case I have appended the following solution that fits both his mental state and financial means, courtesy of one Senor (soon to be Congressman) Herrera.
>>65143372Ironic for how much people like seethe about Russia, they are exactly like Russians with the "sir you are JEWISH NAZI" talk. I am not like them. My hatred for Russoids and Communists is pure and clean. I was bullying Armatard, the real one, who probably died in a trench somewhere in Cossackland still shrieking about how the Su-57 will bring muh pigdog empire to its knees as soon as it gets the chance, before that retard could vote.
>>65143349how many levels of magachad do I need to unlock the white hat?
>>65143407I gave a chink such a mental breakdown that he spammed entire CCP cope articles about how they aren't rape babies yesterday. You need at least that many levels in magachud to get the white hat. Apparently it will turn gold if he kills himself.
>>65142180Oh boy, here we go again, the eurotard is giving the thread their expert opinion about the 'States.
>>65142433>casting pearls before swineAll millenials know is that disappointing "Footfall"
>>65143328>>65143349>>65143389Lol, imagine posting your guns like a cuck.
>>65143407>>65143426>Samefagging so he can tell his story about defeating a chink spammer that was probably him in the first placeDirlewanger is on so many levels of mental illness I wouldn't even question it if this was the case
>>65143627>>65143633Where are your guns? Why haven't you posted them?
>>65143426You are trash that derailed an interesting mesoamerican manlet thread.
>>65142214>>65142418Yes humans are easy, come destroy or conquer us. There is no way mere contact will ever be the ghost in the machine that fucks your giant galactic navy. It will be awesome.
>>65141126>Why does America mog everyone so hard militarily?You guys have an entire continent of resources to tap with no land borders worth mentioning and basically free shipping along the coast because you have so many shielded waterways. You got the euro tech base coming through the industrial revolution without having to squeeze the infrastructure into existing medevial cities. Those together meant you came out of both world wars pretty much untouched, so you had the economy to snatch up the best of everything- german rocketry and fission, brittish and french supersonic flight research, ect. You've had nearly a century to cash those advantages in, and also just spend an insane ammount on your military in general - you could probably spend half of it and live in a post-scarcity utopia with functionally free everything, but instead you earn less and spend more per person than many of the other countries on this list despite being dozens of times their size and most of them being your allies
>>65143703I don't know what you're talking about but our little chinkshill crashed out in every thread he was in last night. Go check the archives for the word rape since he used it as punctuation.
>>65143702I don't take orders from cucks like you, sorry.
>>65142264But if it is all part of the plan why is the US administration negotiating the re-opening of the strait?
