So apparently US army and marines have like a rivalry or something?how does this impact their effectiveness during cooperations?is it more of a "we are much more badass than the other branch but we understand that the others are still very important" or more of a "these guys are just hindering us in our operations by being super gay all the time all they do is suck each other off in the shower while we do the heavy lifting"Does it share similaries with the rivalry between army and navy in ww2 japan?
it's just friendly banter. only idiots take it seriously.
Army is the premier fighting force in the world.Marines are more like a jobs program for the mentally invalid.
>>65142913This.
>>65142972And yet when AMERICA wants something done they send in the Marines.
>>65143043did marines get maduro?
Barring shit talking, it doesn't even closely resemble the nightmare that was problems between the IJN and IJA. The US army isn't exactly making their own Amphibious assault ships out of spite like the IJA did with making their own Aircraft Carriers.
>>65143049Maduro is just a videogame streamer.
>>65142972You wouldn't badmouth the marines if you had to do their missions instead.
>>65143043name 10 occasions that happened
>>65143103The US Army's beef is with the USAF. The Army is sore that it can't operate fixed wing aircraft while the USAF didn't want to be the Army's bitch boy but still doesn't want to let the Army have their own planes.
>>65142904Simple, the army is full of mutts and women and the marines are filled with mutts who eat crayons.
>>65142904This "rivalry" only comes from the marines, in the Army literally no one cares.
Most army guys I've met said the marines were retarded and gay but they were still good fighters and big risk takers, and they respected them. I've met way fewer marines but none of them seemed to have anything against the army beyond some friendly banter. Also they were indeed retarded and gay
>>65143269I don't want to do jobs at a jobs program, either
>>65143778retarded and gay is the baseline for almost all academically underachieving young men. at least those who enlist have the wherewithal to better themselves.
>>65143727This. My best friend was a Marine and he constantly talked shit about all these scenarios where the Marines allegedly got one over on the Army and expected me to know what the fuck he was talking about. Like, I don't know, man, my drill sergeants never even mentioned the fucking Marines, but apparently the Marines spend a whole section of boot camp memorizing every little pissing match that ever existed in their minds. I spent my time in the Army feuding with the motor pool mechanics over what was and wasn't operator level maintenance, I had no time to devote to some imaginary rivalry with the boat police.
The USAF spanks the shit out of them when it comes to weaseling federal funding for nonsense.
Army won Fallujah
>>65144266You mean “get lots of gibsmedats by trying to sneak through during peacetime”.
>>65144641There's a part in House to House by David Bellavia where one of his buddies says something like "Just watch, years from now people will just say the Marines were here and not the Army" and Bellavia kinda dismisses his concerns as bullshit. But for a while he was right.
>>65142904The Army says the Marines infringe on their role and are a tactically unnecessary second army kept around through political maneuvering and an extremely active historical rewriting effort. Marines say the Army does not have sufficient integration with air and sea power to be expeditionary and the few expeditionary organizations in the Army lack the logistical staying power and heavy formations of a Marine MarDiv. They are both kind of right. I think an argument could be made to go down to 2 active MarDivs but it's not really an urgent thing. The Army/Navy rift in WW2 was literally just Nimitz trying to tard wrangle MacArthur there was no animosity or rivalry between the branches.
>>65143043Is that why marines are basically sent to do the army's job?>abbey gate>patrols in afghanistan, iraqcould have been done by the army.I mean, we had marines in ww2 and for some reason they weren't used in normandy.And for some stupid reason marines were used in a couple fronts where the army could've been used in WW1 as well.Seems like amphibious invasions hardly happen even in big wars.We were prepared to invade mainland japan with the ARMY btw not the marines. There was something like 10 million expected US casualties for the invasion of japan iirc.
>>65145121>10 million expected US casualties for the invasion of japan iirc.nvm for japan it was 10 million for US it was 400k to 2.5m casualties on the high end.no way the marines could sustain that alone without three generations of men being wiped out.
>>65142972Isnt the marines like the patrogen guards? Marines is like the branch that the us president can control without any body else saying anything or am I wrong
>>65145157No, lol. That is the National Guard, and it's state governors who have the say on how they're used. The US president can order the military to do whatever, but without a declaration of war voted on and approved by Congress, he only has 90 days. It's why orange man is so insistent that Iran is over. He really doesn't want the possibility of it going before Congress and being voted against by Republicans trying to salvage their political careers.
>>65142904>RivalryLOL Only in the tiny brainlets of the average jarhead. I watched jarheads washout of jump school cycle after cycle while I was there at the exact same attrition rate as everyone else. Jarheads can keep their faggitron uniforms. If you want a human weapon who isn't too stupid to need a dozen supervisors up his ass 24/7, he'll have a beret on his head.
>>65145157>Marines is like the branch that the us president can control without any body else saying anything or am I wrongthat is just a myth. The president can do whatever he wants with any branch of the military for up to 60 days without congress. That has been proven already.
>>65145227And then he can keep doing anything unless he is successfully impeached.And then he can keep doing anything since Congress does not have the means to actually stop him.
>>65143043No they send in the CIA, spec ops, and air elements
>>65144648it doesn't come for free
>>65145121>I mean, we had marines in ww2 and for some reason they weren't used in normandy.Marines in WWII were fully under the Navy, so it would make sense that in their limited numbers they were only in the Pacific. As was the Army, because the Marines were a much smaller organization.
>>65143043Because that's their primary function.
>>65144959Re: WW2 Army vs Navy, the big controversies were>Admiral King, the Navy top kick, never really bought into Europe First.> General Smith (USMC V Corps) relieving General Smith (USA 27th Division) for being so slow at Makin that an escort carrier was sunk with heavy losses. General Buckner of the Army complained that the relief was unjustified.> General Buckner was accused of being so slow at Okinawa that the Navy took heavy losses from kamikazes. After Buckner was killed, his temporary replacement was. . .a Marine.
>>65144510>Head gasket replacement: operator level>differential carrier bearings : operator level>transmission rebuild : operator leveli dont make the rules i just enforce em :^)
>>65142904they don't cooperate that's why every branch has their own ships, planes and land vehicles
>>65142904>So apparently US army and marines have like a rivalry or something?You have to be 18 years old to post here.
