How effective are fear and demoralization as weapons of war?https://youtu.be/w3VeKnW9cNo
>>65143151GIs were gooning over her voice, and she really didn't do anything wrong given her circumstances. Fear and demoralization does work to an extent, but it has to be applied correctly. The Russian method has been successful with certain populations, but it has also backfired a lot.
>>65143244My bad, I mistook her for the Japanese gal. I should have read the title.
>>65143151>>65143244Very effective, since America lost the Vietnam war in the end.
its funny when the OP doesnt immediately get the response he wants so he spergs out, shows his hand, and samefags lol
>>65143244Not Vietnam-related by my great-grandfather unironically developed a huge crush on Tokyo Rose while serving as a sailor on the USS Hornet. Probably a big factor why he came home from the Pacific in 1948 with a Japanese bride and an infant (much to the anger of his parents).
>>65143244>The Russian method has been successful with certain populations,Explain yourself.
>>65143472Op here.I didnt do that, though. This is my 1st reply to my thread, schizo.
>>65143251Lost it killing way way way than suffered dead just by leaving on their own free will
>>65143151Why is her nose so big?
>>65143537>much to the anger of his parentsI thought the last word was going to be wife, lmao. You kept me in suspense, bro.
>>65143588Nah, he was an 18 year old dork whose first sexual experience was an Asian lady talking seductively over the radio
>>65143621>tfw you great-grandfather would have simped for a vtuber in the 21st century
The war situation was already too favorable for the US military for Tokyo Rose's provocations to have any effect.On the other hand, Lord Haw-Haw's broadcasts were also made during the British military's most difficult period, but how effective were they?
>>65143151It does nothing since north vietnam lost anyways.
>>65143151apparently not that great>We never found out who she was. But if she had been captured and tried like Tokyo Rose I think most of us would have voted for acquittal. Listening to her at night was one of those rare things that actually make the job a little more doable... Most units started keeping a scoreboard on the people she said they killed and the bases that were lost. She'd come on [the radio] at night with just ridiculous shit. She'd come on there, and the scary part was she might mention your base and the names of a couple of your officers. By God that was scary. That was truly scary. I don't know how they got that kind of information. She'd come on with things like, "We are now in the third weekend of the Tet revolution. Tonight people's forces over-ran the air force base at Tan Son Nhut killing 135,000 Americans and seizing airplanes that we really didn't want because firends of socialist labor in Russia built better aircraft." But the part that was so funny, and I guess this is the guitar player in me, was the musical interludes. I looked forward to this every night. She'd come on and she'd do something like this, she'd say, "Tonight's folk ballad is a Vietnamese folk ballad from the 14th century titled 'Crush the Heads of the Running Dogs of Imperialism'." We'd just break up [laughing]. You know and I know thaht the Marines were not at Da Nang in 1428. Then she'd go on and there would be another 13th century song about 'Invade America and Kill the Families of the Running Dogs'. We used to call that the "running dog session". That always got in there somewhere. Listening to that bullshit was kind of a comic relief. When I was flying home and they went through my baggage they wanted to know what this one reel of tape was. I screwed up and said, "That's Hanoi Hannah," and they confiscated my tape.attributed to one Larry Oswald in "Voices from Vietnam: Eye-witness accounts of the war, 1954-1975" by Richard Burks Verrone and Laura M Calkins
>>65143537>>65143621as someone who finds Japanese girls' accents kinda cute, I suppose I can relate
>>65143621>>65143826It's all just one big circle really.
>>65143151A face made for radio, indeed.
>>65143569That doesn't matter when the US and RVN could've achieved that on top of absolute victory instead, if not for the absolute mind boggling political retardation and sedition that happened stateside. Vietnam demonstrates that demoralization/psychological warfare is so effective that it can outright overcome actual battlefield realities.
>>65143537Based colonizer great grandpa
>>65143815>Then she'd go on and there would be another 13th century song about 'Invade America and Kill the Families of the Running Dogs'.Saying something like that is an awesome idea when your enemy goes through a hundred villages of yours every day.
>>65143151Not effective. People will fight to the death if their General has the moral rule. You should be doing what they did to Rhodesia where they undermined the government itself with corruption scandals. That only works on people who are themselves not corrupt and live with the promise that the government is not corrupt. Does not work on niggers and gooks who are corrupt like they are mammals.
>>65143151>>65143815Things like this were pretty ineffective, but what the bongs did in Malaya was much better. Basically they'd fly a big plane with massive loudspeakers over where they knew insurgents were and address them by name, so like>Hello People's Unit 6! People's Unit 5 was wiped out last night in a firefight! We know that you, Chang, were friends with Ping and unfortunately Ping was shot through the head in the engagement. We know your wife is pregnant again and your mother was sick. We have given your mother medicine and she is well again! We know all of this about all of you because one of you is a traitor giving us information.Apparently that was extremely effective, especially once the tide started turning against the guerillas.
>>65143151Morale is important but really destroying a soldier's morale is generally the job of that soldier's general. I don't think any of these modern psy ops ever did anything. Any time you hear about one of these having an effect it's always anecdotal and told by the psy ops people in question. Meanwhile on the other side anecdotes are about how they laugh or shrugged their shoulders and carry on. The only way these things will have an effect is if your morale is already low and on the edge, in which case did they really have an effect at all?
>>65144372I dont get it
>>65144688The most effective psy ops happen before the war even starts.
>>65144602French did something similar in Algeria - sowing mistrust works
>>65143151>How effectivePretty effective if your target audience is weak-minded.
>The most convincing propaganda weapon that the Americans used upon this particular POW was in the form of gasoline poured into his cave, coupled with the threat to ignite it if he didn't come out
One of the problems unique to meatwave tactics is that psyops don't really work, since the meat isn't active on the field long enough for propaganda to take effect. It can work on actual soldiery meant to hold ground, sortie, and return. But some random 'nikker from some bumfuck village that's had its men conscripted and the women sold into sex slavery has a shelf life measured in hours. They're drone chow before they'd even realize the things they're hearing are meant to demoralize them.
>>65143550No.
