>>65146876
No.

>>65146877
/thread

Probably, you could spend some drones killing the enemy leadership and then use the rest for destroying cannons, Wellington only had 156 guns and Blücher another 126.

No, the grand armée was destroyed in the russian campaign and never recovered. What went to Waterloo was a mostly green conscript army, with relatively inexperienced leadership of the rank and file, less guns, less cavalry, and much lower morale.

Drones would be very vulnerable to grapeshot and volley fire, probably more vulnerable to those things than anything on today's battlefield.

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>>65146876
Potentially, yes.

A hundred FPV drones is not a lot. But they are virtually a guaranteed kill.
What I would do is spend say ten drones killing Wellington, Blucher, and eight other brigade commanders, and then blow up another eighty ammunition caissons for Allied artillery batteries and infantry battalions.
With the resulting ammunition starvation, disruption in command, and ten drones giving Napoleon a real-time bird's-eye view of the battlefield enabling him to direct his assault on the weakest parts of the defensive line with perfect information, the battle's a cinch.

The morale damage from rumours of supernatural wunderwaffen would merely be the icing on that gateau.

>>65146876
Before the fighting started or after? If before, then yes, he could have easily sowed chaos by having the drone operators take out the senior leadership. The damage to morale from seeing the Duke of Wellington just explode in his own tent surrounded by the other general staff alone would probably cause the entire army to route before a single shot was fired. Everyone else would be so fucking confused and lose control of their men. By the time Blucher showed up, he'd probably find an entrenched French army and the remains of the allied forces that tried to stay and fight slaughtered.

>>65146876
Depends if they can handle the rabbits or not?

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>>65146931
>The damage to morale from seeing the Duke of Wellington just explode in his own tent surrounded by the other general staff alone would probably cause the entire army to rout

>>65146876
>If he'd had a single Ukrainian drone squad and a hundred FPV drones, could he have won Waterloo?
How many signal officers would there have been on a napoleonic battlefield?

My first thought was 'No', but having a bird eye's view, rapid communication andtaking out dozens of top commanders on the opposite side would probably lead to a complete collapse of the coalition there.
That being said winning Waterloo is just that, there's more armies coming, so maybe it makes any sense if everybody just surrenders.

>>65146892
>>65146928
>>65147003
>>65147076
You're not allowed to use the drones to target leadership, it wasn't done. Both Wellington and Napoleon declined to use cannon against the other, when opportunity arose.

>>65147365
an urban legend
in those days, artillery didn't target individual leaders because they were too darn inaccurate at those ranges.
Wellington said what he said because he was being quippy in the typical British fashion. and he wanted to set an example; he had ordered artillery to support their attached battalions and brigades and he didn't want to detach any to attempt a shot at Napoleon which he knew had minimal chance of hitting.
if headquarters groups became reasonable targets then they were absolutely in for it. we don't have French records for obvious reasons, but Wellington's own command party suffered 1/3rd casualties, mostly to artillery. Uxbridge, famously, being one of them.

>>65147427
Almost certainly because an individual artillery commander mistook them for cavalry, and not a direct order from Napoleon himself who allowed his subordinates great latitude.

>>65147441
also unlike Napoleon, Wellington often co-located his HQ with front-line infantry battalions, spending a few minutes there and then moving on. it was this constant patrolling of the front line and visiting each battalion that lent him a superior grasp of the tactical situation. but it also undoubtedly led to the loss of so many of his command group.

>>65146897
You're right, he should have used his drones in 1812

Replacing Berthier with Soult is what got him, though drones couldn't have hurt

>>65147685
>Berthier
I think you meant Davout, Berthier was already disaffected with Napoleon over 1812
Davout was his best remaining chief of staff, and if he hadn't been back in Paris organising call-ups and supply lines and things Napoleon wouldn't have had the army he had

>>65146876

>be time travelling drone operator
>GPS doesn’t exist.
>flying by LOS only.
>One way trips only.
>take out token officer
>lulz round 2
>suddenly there’s a rustle outside
>it’s a crack cavalry company sent to find any assholes hiding in likely shrubberies within transmission range
>and they rather liked that officer
>Geneva convention? What’s that
>die of sepsis from having your asshole literally reamed out with bayonets and spat in by a dozen burly horsemen.

>>65146928
>supernatural wunderwaffen
When will the tired meme of people in the past reacting like Africans to future technology die.

>>65148209
You have the weirdest sexual fantasies.

>>65147748
I need to brush up on my Napoleonic stuff

>>65147365
I don't think Napoleon would care for the pre-established rules at this point given he broke them to start his second conquest. Granted, crippling the artillery batteries of his foe would likely do more than bombing Wellington whose plans had already been outlined pre-battle.

>>65146876
>FPV drones
I swear people won't shut up about these tv guided loitering munitions be the vernacular name makes them feel smart.

>>65148225
>Walsh's whole conversation was nothing but a connected chain of blasphemous sentences. Oath succeeded oath, with such frightful rapidity, that his companions at length became horror-struck. In this state of mind he went into action on the lower part of the position, where the shot and the shell plunged around him without producing any visible amendment. The regiment proceeded to the heights, Walsh all the way pursuing a similar course, venting curses on all and every thing around, above, and below. When we had arrived within about two hundred yards of the 50th, and before any one had heard the sound of a ball at that point, the unfortunate wretch, in the very act of uttering a dreadful torrent of blasphemy, fell a lifeless corpse, his head having been perforated by a musket ball. Walsh's sudden and striking exit from this to another world, furnished conversation to his companions during the remainder of the day. His death was viewed by them as a striking manifestation of the divine wrath for his numerous and heinous offences against the Author of his being.

This is an account from an officer who had at least recovered a musket ball. Now imagine the effect of a completely unknown killing effect that reaches out and kills anything in the army with impunity.

Hell, you are saying this is a "tired meme" at a time when /x-tier bullshit appears to be grabbing headlines again.

>>65148730
would you prefer "one way effectors"?

>>65149244
Source on that quote? Sounds good.

>>65149258
Iirc James Archibald Hope's memoir on Gutenberg
Indeed a good read

>>65147365
>You're not allowed to use the drones to target leadership
I expend one drone on you, then use the rest as mentioned above.

Anyone saying “target the leadership” is outing themselves as retarded. Trying to fly a drone into a gathering of 1810s english gentlemen is like trying to fly a hanglider into a WW2 flak tower. Before you even spot them, one of them will have had an indian boy hand them an H&H, made a wager with the gentleman around him, and shot it out of the sky to a muted roar of gold claps from his compatriots.

>>65149480
if they were prepared, sure
but how often did British gentlemen equip themselves with fowling shotguns on a Napoleonic battlefield?

I wonder if you'd be better off using them to delay Blucher. Use some to target ammunition/powder for Wellington's artillery and most of them to hit Blucher's column. It probably wouldn't break them but a few hours because the Prussians think they're being ambushed when their cavalry and artillery start exploding would give Napoleon extremely valuable time.

>>65146876
Yeah. He'll be able to solve a lot of problems he walked himself into
>the reverse slope
>misjudging the prussian retreat
>ney misjudging the british retreat
>that skirmish that happened the day (days?) before when the brits held a crossroad against superior numbers because the french thought there was more of them
>notice his brother was being a dumb fuck at hougoumon
>probably recognise the importance of the pivot point at la haye saint
and he'd just generally have a complete idea of the battlefield with the ability to strike from the heavens at any useful British officer.
So yes, fucking obviously he'd win

>>65149497
>most of them to hit Blucher's column
Napoleon's army was shattered just trying to break Wellington, it would be a victory yes but a Pyrrhic one unless you can save more infantry from d'Erlon's corps (routed by the British cavalry and chewed up at Papilotte), Reille's corps (shredded at Hougoumont), Ney's cavalry (stonewalled by squares), and the Guard infantry (broken by British musketry and Allied counter-charges)

to win, Napoleon had to not only defeat the Allies, but also preserve his forces
at this point the odds against him in men and cavalry were at least 3 to 1 if not more

>>65149457
You're not allowed to target me, it's literally illegal. In the rules I just made up for MY scenario. Furthermore an attempt to target me just gets you isekaid directly into the life of a 20 year old Russian peasant, circa. 1975

>>65149622
Eh, the Soviet Union wasn't THAT bad in the 70s.

>>65149629
Yeah, but you're going to hit 1991 when you're in your mid thirties. Too late to retrain, escape or make accomadations with the new rising elites. Too early to have made headway into becoming one the elite yourself.

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>>65146911
Dumbest fucking thing I heard. You think you're going to use a muzzle loader cannon like an ad hoc AA gun?

>>65146876
he would have obliterated the top staff officers of the british-prussian army in a coordinated attack simultaneously and then launch an all out attack, would've probably led to a total rout. add an ammo wagon explosion and he's basically got this.

>>65146876
The only historical battles a couple of hundred FPVs could change would be naval engagements.
Imagine it's the age of sail, the ships of the line are getting into formation and one side has all their masts and rudders blown off from10x cannon range.

>>65146876
Easily, a bird’s eye view of the battlefield and drone carried messages would have allowed him an extraordinary tactical advantage. It would be a slaughter.