what does /k/ think of this? is there any 5.56 ak around the same price that would be a better option?
>>65151517your funeral, not like you're gonna shoot more than a few mags out of itif you actually wanna get something good though, just bit the bullet and get a vetted AK brand's rifle instead
PSA's AK101 would be a better safer option on the same website and for around the same price. It may eventually beat itself to death but it won't be dangerous. Mine is a dream to shoot and I don't have any abnormal wear on internals like others have had. It's really an AK74 in 5.56 not an AK101
Just get a Galil Ace, the 5.56 AK market is completely fucked and not worth participating in at the current moment. A M90 is probably the only viable option or a Beryl if you can find one for a decent price.
>>65151517Certain brands of American made century arms AKs can explode (so I’ve been told). Do your research on which ones. IDK which cuz there’s like fucking over 9 thousand models now and I’ve only ever owned their WASR line.Pioneer arms is in the same vein of exploder AKs available around the the $900 mark. They are now under new management so not sure if they still ‘splode but I’m not willing to be the guinea pig on that one.Rielly‘s defenses in the same price range maybe a little bit higher. See lots of them for sale online but never hear anybody talk about them like anywhere.I’ve heard mixed/mostly good things about WBPs, no experience with them personally and they always seem to be sold out online everywhere all the time.Zavasa are rock solid, used to go for just under a grand a few years ago but good luck finding one for that price now. Honestly probably gonna get shit for this but PSA AKs are probably your best bet for cheap AKs. I own 4 and they are serviceable but each has its own unique kinks that’s extremely annoying:
>AK101: overall good gun but won’t shoot Tula, cases get stuck in bore and have to be knocked out with a cleaning rod and hammer since the extractor rips the case lip off. Same problem I have with a WASR I own.>AK74: honestly the best out of all of them, a little under gassed and sometimes stovepipes on 7N6 ammo and the extractor spring came weak from the factory but otherwise best craftsmanship out of all of them, minimal tooling marks and tightest tolerances even after several thousands rounds, no abnormal wear. >AK102: bought second hand from a pawn shop, not sure how many rounds are on it but the recoil spring seems kinda weak, the AGL trigger it came with has some weird wear on it and I’m not sure if it’s from firing or something they did at the factory, regardless this has recently started to cause it to light-strike repeatedly on Winchester 55g and 62g respectively.>Krink in 5.56: newest edition, have put several hundred round on it, only malfunction so far was a double-fire with the stock trigger, if it continues to happen will swap the trigger and see if it happens again. Looks like there might be some weird wear on the ejector too, will inspect when I go to clean at the 1000 round mark.
>>65151517>what does /k/ think of this?That I wish the Chinese weren't import banned so I could have decent 5.56 Norinco AKs for cheap.
>>65151580>zavasa* ZASTAVA goddamn I hate dislexia
>>65151517fuck price. Here's your options.>Zastava M90>Zastava M85>Beryl>WBP in 5.56 >Galiloops looks like that's it
>>65151591Dyslexia*
>>65151517everyone brags about "muh reliability". but 1000 dollar ak clones suck?so what is it. are the AK's ultra reliable or are AK's design more about quality of parts over ingenious of design?
>>65151571Good advice that you know he won't follow
>>65151842WBP 5.56 guns have varying issues, none of them being major safety issues at least.
>>65151591>>65151877I know that feel well anon
>>65151879It's just a shitty gun
>>65151532This, love mine but it can't be ignored that they were total dumpsterfires out of the gate and you should take care to avoid early serials. Woth that said I got mine specifically got mine because PSA was retarded and made their "101" entirely with pre-M spec components, meaning I could have a AKS-74 in 5.56. Shoots well too, like you said.
>>65152298so materials and high tolerances matter just as much as design. fascinating. because the AK crowd would have you believe that a 500 dollar AK is on the same level as a 2000 dollar one because of its ingenious design.
>>65151571Isn't the WBP the Pollacks make a decent option?
>>65153116If all you do is read shit online instead of shoot, maybe you'd come to that conclusion.
>>65151879>are the AK's ultra reliable or are AK's design more about quality of parts over ingenious of design?No rifle designed to be built to a certain spec, with certain materials, will ever be durable and work reliably if you try to build a clone using garbage materials and awful build quality.There have been plenty of other examples of this, from Rogak pistols, to Turknelli shotguns, to AR-18 clones made by Vulcan/Hesse.All are good designs ruined by terrible materials and build quality.
>>65151517Dogshit psak that'll either lose headspace from the factory, have dog ass rivets, or simply have the bolt break because 5.56 aks still don't have good parts
>>65153132I've heard very good things about them.I've also heard a few people make a HUGE deal out of the fact that one batch of WBP rifles left the factory with bolts heat-treated to an incorrect spec, so there were a dozen or so cases of the defective rifles shearing locking lugs and such.Evidently a small batch of people on the internet have made it their mission in life to try and claim that this is a problem that affects all WBP rifles, and that all WBP rifles are effectively grenades with buttstocks. Obviously that's not true.
>>65153132I've heard bad things about the small caliber WBP guns, the 7.62 ones seem fine. They have a weird fucked up bolt spec that's more AKM than AK74 which seems to feed into the issues like breaking firing pins that the small caliber guns have.
I'm not even an AR guy, but at this point in time with how finicky it seems to be to make a functional and safe AK consistently, what's the appeal of an AK? Not judging but I wonder sometimes because AKs seems fraught with production issues
>>65151842uuuuuh Arsenal ?
>>65153285Oh yeah I'd love to drop SCAR money on a fucking AK
>>65151586I've had good experiences with my 5.56 Krink as well. Didn't hear any real fuss about them once they released, so maybe PSA actually managed to learn something from their 101's shitshow of a launch. The bore's certainly concentric (picrel).
>Century builds are basically $1kGrim>pollacksCan't make a rifle except for mine all others are shit but you'rs is especially shit cuz pollacks naturally generate a field of entropy meaning your rifle is about to grenade cuz kyzwyzkkywzlovsky touched it for a little to long while packaging it>serbsCan't make a rifle without chimping out and ceasing production to saber rattle also they crack at the everywhere except mine>bulgariansAre too busy huffing paint to see their quality slipping except for mine and I paid the exact correct price but will never say what year I bought it cuz all the other years they were still learning to build or covid supply fucked them also if you pay less you clearly got the defect batch if you paid more you're a larp tard>psaCan't make a rifle to save their life except mine cuz it's actually the gen n+1 secret release also it's okay cuz AKs are durable and can handle a lot but for the most part their blind, gay, nympho chimps they hired to check more diversity boxes than century's alcoholic chimps keep leaving their cum on the front trunion prior to heat treat so they all explode from seminal infetterance reducing material strength >russiaIf you converted it you fucked it up and made it weak but if I convert it's returning an ak to perfect proper spec also your unconverted saiga is garbage but mine is a diamond in the rough ready to be made into the ultimate ak which yours is not>romaniaIs literally too poor to make a proper ak the employees remove the dust cover ribs to resell elsewhere for methylated spirits since vodka is too expensive except mine thats been going strong since before 2014
>>65153285I excluded Arsenal because it seems like the only ones you see are milled and theyre quite expensive with seemingly just as many problems as WBP 5.56 AKs but perhaps even worse. I remember multiple people getting very abnormal wear on their SAMs.
>>65151580>>65151842stopped at my local gun store and saw a Zastava m90 for $1.2k, gonna snag it when i get my permit to purchase (live in a cucked state)thank you all for the help
>>65153888dang bro that fuckin sucks lmao i got mine for 700 dollars from a guy
>>65151580idk man, I used a c47 milled front cut trunnion, a random bolt, headspaced it with scotch tape, pieces of a milled polish receiver the little bastard seems fine after 500 Rds, the only thing I've noticed is that the AK-74 Muzzle device was louder after it got hot
>>65153991500 rounds isn't actually much of an endurance test. That'd be like driving a car for 500 miles and saying yep it's good to go definitely. It's a good thing you don't really shoot it much
>>65153888>permit to purchaseShot in the dark, Minnesota?
>>65154009i'm only limited by my access to ammo, but the US AK problem was supposedly due to soft metal and poor heat treat, x39 costs are through the Roof. and I sure wasn't loaded with cash to fund the tins of ammo to fire the Damn Rifle to Failure
>>65151517A Century is always the worst option even if it's the ONLY option.
>>65153991>the little bastard seems fine after 500 Rdsrofl, lmao even
>>65154049My bad, I'm not trying to rag on your finances, just the round count when the declaration of being g2g was made. I guess it's sort of like owning a low-number 1903 Springfield
>>65152628Very nice AKS>>65153394damn, they make a good looking krink too
