Now they're being sent back to the US.Is there a plan? Because it seems like there is no plan. https://taskandpurpose.com/news/army-cancels-deployment-soldiers-europe/
>Female TikTok TTS voiceIt's time to die for Israel!
>>65153332>plan?
>>65153332Wasn't this the unit Biden deployed after Russia invaded Ukraine in 2022?
>>65153332poland too strong to need puny usa troops, fat ameriburgers would just waddle in the way
>>65153356To be honest, a Cavalry brigade might indeed not be needed that much in Poland - if anything their conventional land force is already decently built up.Ballistic missile defense, long range cruise missiles and of course nukes are significantly more important.
>>65153332>it seems like there is no planThe pentagon already ran out of money for the year. They blew it all on Iran and the photo-ops deployments on the border and DC.So there's only a plan as far as there's a plan for the Iran War, which means there's literally no plan.
US Euro bases have been gibs to euro countries for decades nowIts long past time to close them
>>65153404strippers, used muscle car salesmen and tattoo parlors of the US rejoice, the boys are coming home
>>65153404You know that most of the bases are there for power projection, not for defending any euro country?
>>65153385It's a cavalry brigade in name only. 1st Cav is an armored division with the cavalry name stuck on for tradition.>ballistic missile defense, long range cruise missiles are more importantThe US spent all of those in Iran. They're stripping BMD systems out of Korea and Europe to try and backfill the Persian Gulf while missile stocks are absolutely tanked for the next 5 years. Even if they wanted to send those systems, they don't have any to spare.
>>65153404Yes, I slave away every day in the cheeseburger mines own by wall street oligarch and washington DC aparatchiks to waste my hard earned tax rubels on hostile actions against great and benevolent Russian Federation, who is just and pure country that never threaten to invade NATO or Nuke the US. Rubel should be spend keeping my fat wife, her boyfriend Tyrone, and all of our [YANDEX TRANSLATION ERROR 24456] Я oгpoмный пидop, пoжaлyйcтa, изнacилyй мoё лицo. T.Dick Yankee, City of Chicago, autonomous negro oblast.
As usual OP sucks cocks.
>>65153404>US turns Europe into a supine dependency by removing their defense capability>Americans cry about how the Europeans are a supine dependency with no defense capabilityBuilding a monopoly on force in Europe by providing their defense was a deliberate choice made by successive American governments as part of a grand strategy to build the American hegemony in the region. The Europeans don't have militaries because the US didn't want them to. That allowed the US to dictate the foreign policy of the Europeans and wring economic concessions out of them. This has been American policy for generations and only accelerated after the Cold War.Stop being an infant. Do you think the US Dollar became the world reserve currency because people liked the portraits on them? Do you think they went along with our retarded GWOT adventures because they liked our company? Do you think they took all those bonds we were shoving down their throats during the 2008 crisis because they thought they were a great investment?>inb4 buh it costed us monie :(((Empire costs money. The payoff always dwarfed the expense when it came to Europe.
>>65153470We didnt tell you to start scrapping your militaries after the Berlin Wall came down. Weve been telling you since OBAMA to reverse course. Your readiness failures are your own, euroclown.
>>65153470>was a deliberate choice made by successive American governmentsIt never was. That was a European policy after the USSR fell. The US had been bitching at them to maintain their militaries but Europe and especially Germany said that it didn't matter now that the USSR was gone. There's a reason it took Germany so fucking long to actually acknowledge the Russian Federation as a threat after Crimea. It took Russia invading Ukraine proper for them to finally realize that they were wrong.
>>65153480>what do you mean demilitarizing and jumping onto green projects to just buy energy from russia turned out negatively???>at least we have free healthcare and migrants chuddie mcchudderson
>>65153480>We didnt tell you to start scrapping your militaries after the Berlin Wall came down.Pot calling the kettle black: Extreme edition
>>65153417Rubio is still trying to find the child pictures to explain this fact to Donnie.
>>65153480>We didnt tell youI'm an American and I call myself one in the post you replied to. Learn to read, you illiterate chimp.>>65153490>it never wasThe public finger wagging was sugar to help the actually enacted policy go down better with the American public. No action was ever taken to compel them to start spending more, which is how you know the theatrics were just theatrics. Yes, things did start to reverse under Obama, but that was backed with some actual concrete shifts away from Europe and towards China.
>>65153548>Yes, things did start to reverse under ObamaYeah after Russia invaded Georgia
Niggas will vote for Burger Putin before voting for a mediocre woman of color. Oh well.#winning>inb4 weapons We all know this thread was not made for weapons.
>>65153332Oh no unreliable Ally, please protect us from flaccid bear.Wish you guys would start shit with China already so us Europeans can join a world war in the last year for once and get all the credits and economic benefits.
>>65153608Meds, schizo.
>Biden deploys 82nd as show of force to Russia while they attempted to thunder run Kiev>Russia gets buck broken in Ukraine over the last 4 years>Trump pulls back the rotation keeping troop levels to pre-invasion ones>Shills sperg the fuck out
>>65153440I mean, there's no threat of a Russian attack on NATO right now, I think....
>>65153470>Do you think the US Dollar became the world reserve currency because people liked the portraits on themNo, it became the world reserve currency because traitors to America were willing to sell out American manufacturing to weaken the US
>>65153647>pulling out the American show of force during the largest war on European soil since WWII happening next door to NATO allied countries, as well as ending all lethal aid to Ukraine to start another forever war in Iran is actually a good strategyThe mind of a MIGAt is truly an interesting thing.
>Rubio says US hopes to convince China to "play a more active role" in reopening straitSo we went from "WE WON!" to "AAAAAA HELP ME CHINA!"
>>65153703Proofs? There's no fucking way that happened.
>>65153470A surprisingly concise analysis of how American Empire worked. Exported security, in return get influence.Do note the past tense, because Trump flushed that whole thing down the toilet, along with a whole catalogue of other instruments of US soft power.America will remain Europe's best trading partner, but even that will sour if Trump keeps shrieking about more tariffs (which are just taxes on the US population, paid by US consumers btw)But the influence will weaken. The winner here is China, mostly because all the US 'allies' in the pacific see how the US treats its most steadfast allies in Europe, and how US troops and weapons immediately disappear when Isreal orders them to the ME.The US MIC will lose markets, due to Europe buying European, and increasing exports into markets where the US had a share. Some Euro exports will fill the void left by Russia, but most of that will fall to China by default.Another win for Xi, without doing a thing.
>>65153420You must have brown eyes, because you are completely full of shit.
>>65153490While it's true that America has been telling Europe to rearm for ages, you shouldn't leave out that the main reason was to just increase American arms sales. America always threw a hissy fit when a European country bought weapons from anyone but America.
>>65153710It's stupid enough ,and fits their idiotc behavior.Clown administration, in a clown timeline.
>>65153712>how US troops and weapons immediately disappear when Isreal orders them to the ME.Already happened when the US took one of the THAAD batteries from south Korea a few weeks ago.
>>65153710Here you go:https://x.com/FoxNews/status/2054672456082747675
>>65153722>>65153730Holy fuck man that's bad. Buy as much silver and corned beef hash as you can. I can't wait to pay $10 a gallon by July.
>>65153683You're fucking trolling, Russia is fucking done. Poland could solo them.
>>65153404But you'll support unlimited money for Israel, right loyal shabbos goy?
>>65153730>Fox News
>>65153470>The payoff always dwarfed the expense when it came to Europe.It's weird that nobody can make this argument for Israel, but we spend way more on them with no game plan or any return on investment and them backstabbing us constantly and selling our tech to China. Makes me wonder who is maintaining whose imperial interests
>>65153746Imagine how much more done they could be if we actually invested in Ukraine, didn't constantly stab them in the back and blame them for the war, and if we didn't start a war with Iran for absolutely no reason.
>>65153762To be fair, they are the de facto KCNA of the new Burger Reich. Every retiree and boomer I know has it on 24/7.
>>65153776The problem is that the US is a feminized society, the USSR exported feminism to the US back in the 50's to undermine them and it's stuck ever since.
>>65153776Bitch at Jake Sullivan for that.
>>65153783I think the real problem is the kikes pulling Trump's strings. Lethal aid to Ukraine aid never seemed to bother him during his first term. It only became a problem for him after they started competing for gibs with the chosen.
>>65153838It's a multifaceted problem but Jews are the source. They spread feminism in the west to weaken it, they created the EU, they've caused basically every middle eastern conflict.
It sounds a lot some DNC intern who drew the short straw is in here ineffectually trying to win influence and is not above making open appeals to antisemitism.
>>65153776'Absolutely no reason' discredits you. Besides the fact that no one, Rpeublican or democrat, actually wants Ukraine to 'win', as a frozen conflict is always the ideal state for the State Department so they can restart it as they please (see Syria over the last decade), The Iran war was always going to happen, because they our only geopolitical rival other than China, who has nukes. The war with Iran has been in planning since the 80s. You can argue that allowing Israel to rush us into it before we were ready is one thing, but the Iran war is faaaar more strategically relevant to American interests than Afghanistan. If the war was taken seriously, it would be the last war in the middle east we'd need.
>>65153868I want Ukraine to win. It's the right of any people, state, or nation to want freedom from an occupying nation. t. Berniebro>>65153864>noooo, you NEED to stay out golem goyFuck off to the back of the oven, Schlomo.
>obvious shitty raid threadOkay what blew up now?
>>65153480>We didnt tell you to start scrapping your militaries after the Berlin Wall came down. Post Ronald Reagan's 600-ship navy
>>65153763Don't you know about the 6 million? We can't risk having 12 million killed again. We need to protect the lives of all those 24 million innocents.
>>65153332It's just the latest sperg out because NATO won't die for Israel.
>>65153763>It's weird that nobody can make this argument for Israel, but we spend way moreWe spend as much on Egypt and Jordan ($3b total) as we do on Israel annual. We have spent $175b on Ukraine. Facts are stubborn things.
>>65153332Give Poland nukes, it will solve everything
>>65154223>It's just the latest sperg out because NATO won't die for Israel.No, its because the current deployment is fucking up our equipment because our force posture is not designed to operate at the current tempo.
>>65153670>No, it became the world reserve currency because traitors to America were willing to sell out American manufacturing to weaken the US Wha'chu talkin bout, dollar as reserve currency vastly pre-dates the industrial flight to Zhangistan. It was enacted as a means of stabilizing the dollar after Nixon tore up Bretton Woods (ultimately a bad idea, but it made sense in context).
>>65154228Most moderate stance.
>>65154240>>65154228Their political establishment is presently tearing their country apart. I would rather not.
>>65154233The only standard that makes sense is the gold standard, allowing the US dollar to become the reserve currency ensured that buying foreign stuff would always be cheaper than buying American-made goods and exporting American goods would be uncompetitive.
>>65154243An hero, zigger.
>>65154225>We have spent $175b on Ukraine.Counting 30 year old vehicles sitting in storage, priced as-new, while the money they actually cost was spent when our grandparents were still paying taxes?>Facts are stubborn things.The sad factsare that it probably saved teh US taxpayer money to give them to Ukraine, becaue sending them home for de-milling and recycling and shit would've been more expensive than to drive them from the depot in Germany to a train bound for Kyiv.
>>65154265>being vaguely aware of what's happening in Poland makes one a zigger wut >>65154267>no the cost isn't the cost Shut up.
>>65153721>main reason was to increase arm sales>t continent so impotent is is currently being invadedThe mind of the euro approaches the mongoloid in delusional projection.Imagine defending you’re vices this gaggingly on an underwater basket weaving forum>impying nobody remembers euroniggers taking the Canadian larp so far during the last 20 years, they imported the entire third world while pimping themselves out to Soviet revanchists “to own the americlaps”
>>65154269Replacement cost isn't cost, it's just jew accountant tricks. Everything has its own value; claiming that your Geforce 970 is worth $600 dollars, because that's the price of the 5070 you want to replace it with, is misleading and dishonest.
>>65154280If you maintain a set number of equipment in inventory and you have to maintain that specific number in inventory then, yes, the cost of replacing it is the cost.
>>65154267>becaue sending them home for de-milling and recycling and shit would've been more expensive than to drive them from the depot in Germany to a train bound for Kyiv.The Abrams and Brad's we sent were pulled from the boneyards and refurbished before sending. We ordered brand new brads to replace the ones we sent. As for ammunition, the shelf-life argument is pure, unadulterated, retardation and the cost for replacement is usually more than 1:1.
>>65153976The price estimates for the ballroom?
>>65154281That's like saying the cost of all those S-3 Vikings stored in the Arizona Boneyard is $2 trillion. Since the USN doesn't have a dedicated carrier-borne MPA anymore, so selling those airframes, instead of having them available for refurbishment, would require the aforementioned expenditure to maintain potential capability. As I've said, that's just jew accounting tricks.
>>65154269>being vaguely aware of what's happening in Poland makes one a ziggerDidn't you know that having a vague grasp on what's going on in the world beyond your screen makes you a zigger eurocuck nazi chink shill?
>>65153868Lmao you are such a pathetic cuck, there was absolutely no reason to start a war with Iran at that juncture and you know it, there's no reason you're paying for $5 gas and you're coping. You are such a fucking complicit bootlicker cunt that you are shilling for Israel and basically quoting Bibi's lies verbatim, all to justify another lie by a guy who ran on a platform of no more forever wars. Israel has gotten us into literally every war in the middle east ever and NONE of them were in the US national interest other maybe Gulf War 1. >frozen conflict is always the ideal state for the State Department so they can restart it as they please (see Syria over the last decade)This is the kind of faux pseudointellectual nonsense that outs you as a complete utter retard. It's like you started to pay attention to geopolitics exclusively to gobble orange dick harder and never got educated beyond that. I'm sure it's all because of a grandmaster strategy by the same chessmaster of geopolitics that's destroyed America's soft power for literally no reason by being a belligerent asshole over Greenland, bending over for China, and sending billions to Israel without getting anything for it in return. You are too stupid to post here, please refrain from posting here any more. I highly recommend suicide for you too.
>>65154309Oh anon that's been blown up for months now.
>>65154290>the shelf-life argument is pure, unadulterated, retardationTell that to the MIC who bribed the US congress to pass these laws, so they would be able to sell the same ammo stockpile again every few years. Of course the new ammo costs more than the old ammo, line must go up.The point is that the US spent very little in actual dollars right now, but gave Ukraine a significant amount of equipment that was in storage.That equipment is on the books valued at whatever it cost years and years ago, but that money was spent all those years ago.The US now gets to say 'we gave Ukraine so many billion $ of equipment', which is factually true. But it's not money from any US budget this year, or even five years ago. And it was all sitting in depots somewhere, getting turned over once every 30 days.>Abrams and BradsWell, the Brads were not new, but mostly from storage in Europe IIRC. The Abrams were downgraded because US regs required that, something about DU in the armor. That was literally the US paying more to give Ukraine a worse version of their tank. And the number of Abrams was pretty low, anyway. The US has the lagest tank reserves of the west, and sent fewer tanks than Germany.
>>65154313Pussia is the only country that's scared of Poland.
>>65154225>We have spent $175b on UkraineUkraine is defending itself from a true neer-peer foreign invasion and it is very obviously in the national interest to cripple Russia because they literally have nuclear weapons (and hate us) as opposed to only theoretically being able to produce them. Israel is a constant parasite and needs the funding to steal people's land and continue an illegal occupation. They're not the same. Israelis and Russians and both part of the same filthy lying verminous scum, both in mentality by claiming victimhood while commiting war crimes and literally by genetics.The other crucial factor is that the sand war is fucking gay and has produced zero good footage while Ukraine has produced the finest combat footage ever made.
>>65154346>poland is the only country scared of polandYou know remember Russia losing (as in MIA) 200k troops invading Prussia in ww1.Some things never change.
>>65153332Russia = Europe's biggest threat, save us mighty USA.Also Russia = Kyiv by 2100!Poland could probably hold of Russia and conquer Berlin by itself.US forces in Europe need to be retrained and redeployed to fight China.
>>65154225Funding Israel is actively against the US national interest, while none of those other countries you mentioned have ever intentionally murdered US sailors, plotted to bomb allied businesses as a false flag, caught several times spying on us (see Jonathan Pollard, 5 Dancing Israelis, Israeli art student espionage scandal), used money to bribe every politician in the US while blackmailing them, sold our military secrets to China, ect ect So weird how you shills get really touchy when we mention the funding issue. The US has at least some reason to put the money down in every other case, Israel doesn't deserve further investment, it's a backstabber and the reason we're in this mess. It gives nothing back and even the amount given to Ukraine is dwarfed by our welfare check to Israel and you can't question it or you're an antisemite.
>>65154343Oh right my bad, i mixed it up with the Mall
>>65154225>To date, the United States has provided Israel $174 billion (current, or non-inflation-adjusted, dollars) in bilateral assistance and missile defense funding.So adjusted for inflation the US has given Israel far, far more despite it working against our interests
>>65153404Better stop bitching then when countries refuse the use of airbases for future unprovoked attacks.
>>65154363>muh pivot to asia>muh fight chinaTrump administration: Yeah, but what about the next forever war in the ME to help Israel?And let's move all air defenses from Asia to the ME, too! That'll show Chang what's what and reassure our allies! Oh, and beg the Europeans for help, after we told them we don't need them, put illegal tariffs on them, withdrew our troops from there and told them the war on their doorstep was now their problem.And insulted their dead soldiers, who died in our last forever wars.Seriously, this is South American telenovela tier bullshit, who writes this crap?
>>65153868>our only geopolitical rival>iranI suppose if you take israel as the one giving marching orders to golem...
>>65154386Oh, don't worry. The UK and Germany will just sit there and smile, because they fucking well know the US can't afford to move those bases anywhere.
>>65154407Did you already forget how Trump treated Bibi? That was almost as pathetic as him greeting Putin.
>>65153710>>65153741>>65153722Never mind that we were also actively turning around Chinese ships bound for China.Jeez, I wonder why we'd do that if we're only supposed to be blocking Iranian ships from leaving? All right before a major summit between Xi and Trump.https://x.com/i/status/2054582289179296075https://x.com/i/status/2054579110672785904https://x.com/i/status/2054628953063563738
>>65153763This Anon is about to get blown up by AIPAC
>>65154225>We have spent $175b on Ukraineworth every single cent. and now they are even killing the Russian for free for usso shut the fuck up and let Ukraine do their work
>>65153332Lmao lol HATO got scared of Russian retaliation for treatury! It is time mein Monke!
>>65153332Good. FUCK Europe. They should be stationed along the fucking border with Mexico interdicting all the fucking brown people invading our nation.
>>65153470Problem?
>>65153608>>65153712>>65153763>>65154340>>65154351>>65154367>>65154385Brown LLM brigade strikes again!
>ostensibly a NATO thread>look inside>its another /pol/estinian jew bashing threadWhat blew up this time?
>>65154414N-no, it's all fake American empire wouldn't Dare to touch the People's Republic of China! Ashamed to death!
>>65153332Ooof, the gravy train of """free""" healthcare and other shit is soon about to end for the euromutts.
>>65153712>The winner here is ChinaAnd there it is, the propaganda piece. Chang, for fucks sake get better material. Nobody on Earth believes the China Stronk shit, not even their own people. Its just not realistic. If there is a bright star of humanity anywhere in the universe China is the place that is furthest from.
>>65154535You didn't get the tone of that post. It wasn't sucking off Xinnie.
>>65154531And now America will get no influence, no bases and no healthcare.But that's what you want, isn't it Ivan?
>>65154535The seething of a crumbling empire. It's going to take many more years, sure, but the tendency is clear.
>>65153332US with its orange king was going to abandon the eastern front states anyway in a war so honestly it does not really matter where the soldiers are deployed with how schizophrenic the burger internal politics have become there is little faith in anybody following it too. Pressure to retreat behind the oceans and forget the rest of the world is at least as strong as it was back in WW1
>>65153470>Europeans don't have militaries because the US didn't want them to.nigger what is the cold war. Germany alone had half a mil strong force ready to go at the snap of the finger pretending europeans have been completely toothless post ww2 is zigger tier revisionism
>>65153712da, I john burger from texas oblast am in full agreements. evil amerikanskii empire extracted ass for its gayrope petukhs
>>65153332Poland would unironically solo Russia right now.
>>65153741I've been buying bullets, grains, flour, and spam, personally.Each can of spam is good for like 1k calories or something, they're tiny as fuck so storage is easy, and they've got like ten different flavors. Personal faves are maple and Korean bbq.12 cans of spam is like 35-40$ on Amazon, expiration dates like 3 years out but it will keep for much longer, and it actually tastes a lot better than you'd think of you've never given it a shot.
