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>>65154947First for MT FAG GO HOME.
>>65155355he typed, furiously clattering on his keyboard, Dorito crumbs making it hard to press the keys in completely. Surrounding him, Mountain Dew bottles, some empty, some full of piss, and shit buckets littered his mom's basement.
opinion? dont like flippers but price looks good and design really speaks to me (apart from flipper tab)
>>65155388Terzoulas made a trillion knives that look just like that so you kind of have your pick of the litter when it comes to manufacturer. ive never heard anything bad about Fox knives but i also have no experience with them either. Try it out and report backI remember eyeing the protech terzoulas a while ago
i just found out lyn tompson is gonna make knives again in a new company does anyone know when or where they will come out for sale
>>65155982Probably in some shitty drop ship Chinese company.
>sub $100 Benchmade>CPM-154I don't have much info on this steel, but so far it is in between BD1N and S30V. So its not all that exciting... Still that butterfly. And it's still better than the ENTRY us made Spyderco(BD1N) which goes for around $120-$130.What do y'all think?
>>65156180Spyderco has a new US made ~$99 lock back without a finger choil or tall assed blade.
>>65156180CPM154 is going to be a bit more malleable than S30v, won't hold as strong an edge as long. Easier to sharpen without breaking out the diamond plates. Dunno why they went hole instead of stud like on their other knives but whatever.
>>65156316Costs less probably.
New Thread, New Day, same to do listI am currently stuck in my knife collecting adventures. I have amassed a collection of knives to the point to where I shouldn't really need another knife. But that's not fun. so i currently have 6 knives I'm looking to acquire.1. Spartan Astor in CTS-XHP. WHY? because it fucks. I really want a Les George design knife that isn't 500 dollars and its basically a sleeper knife that is underrated so its cheap to get.2. Cold Steel Frenzy in S35VN. WHY? because it fucks. I'm looking into getting more self defense knives so I can train with them.3. Cold Steel Talon II in S35VN. WHY? BEACUSE IT FUCKS. same reason. i already own a bunch of knives, but i want dedicated self defense tools.4. Ruike Jager in 14C28N WHY? because it FUCKS. looking to build a bugout bag and this is probably one of the best under 100 dollars SHTF knives5. Tai Pan in VG10 WHY because it FUCKS. looking for a dagger style knife.6. Manix 2 in MangaMax (when it finally releases) WHY? because it fucks.....I might as well get the updated "best EDC" steel.
>>65156393Peltonen M07
>>65156393>MangaMaxWell at least you scalpers will have something new to scalp leaving some 15v for me.
>>65156180CPM-154 is the same formula of 154CM. but its made with powdered steel process. It makes it stronger. comparing it to S35VN it is slightly less corrosion resistant and edge retention. its between both of them. I think 100 bucks for a mid tier steel like CPM-154 is a deal.
>>65156413WYM? MagnaMax will be regularly made from now on. there might be an initial shortage, just like with MagnaCut, but I have 3 knives in MagnaCut. and it sometimes is good to wait around and let the other people get their hands on them to do rockwell hardness tests to see which companies are actually properly heat treating them. >>65156396Nah. Scandi grinds are great. but I figure that if I make a bugout bag, that im more likely to want a knife with a high saber grind for meal prep over a knife to bushcraft. I probably wont have time to build a fort. that and its in 14C28N which is a very tough knife that wont break easily.
>>65156417What about $20 more for a S30V Bugout?
>>6515644720 bucks more id go for the bugout. im not a big fan of Mini variants.
>$375 for the base option>Magnacut>already depreciatedJesus Benchmade, WTF are you doing?!
>>65156458375 is a good price if it was titanium. but aluminum handles is pretty ridiculous.this should be 250 max.
i am actually pretty confused why benchmade is doing this. i understand going up 10, 20, 30, or even 50 bucks, but they went up well over 100 on some models while changing nothing. they want 300 for a S30V 940. when they use to do them for 170 about 10 years ago. they must either being screwed by the Oregon government on taxing because weapons le bad. or they owe a lot of money and they have to pay it back. there is no logical conclusion and the illogical one is just greed. because they are completely outclassed by almost every other knife maker by 50 to a 100 bucks for comparative models.
>>65156519Butterfly tax and alleged investment opportunities. Too many retards will buy the knife, hide it under the mattress, and then try to profit later on.
>>65156513The Vapyr which they call the next generation Bugout you're right should be $250 tops with average discounted price if sub $200. The original Bugout should be discounted to fend off the chink competition like Flytanium Beef or Remette.
>>65156316>Dunno why they went hole instead of stud like on their other knives but whatever.I don't know about that elongated oval, but I think I prefer holes over studs because they're easier to move from more angles. How about you guys?
>>65156641I like the spyderco hole because they milled it pretty well so its not sharp. I hate chink holes and IDK if this budget Benchmade has a good or bad holes.
>>65156642>I hate chink holesUsually pretty tight despite usage at an amp.
>>65156662w-what?
>>65156665Anon made a joke about Asian hookers.
>>65156684Ohh...
i had one of these asher thingies and the hole was really rounded out which actually made it harder to open. spyderco isnt sharp but they dont knock down the edges so much that you cant give it a flick. i mean it makes sense the proprietary hole company do holes better than the chinks do
>>65156612I mean there are probably 20 different "bugout killer" knives that are using a crossbar style lock that will be on par for about 100-150. some cheaper options as well. its just like what is realistically stopping from someone getting a competitive knife model from another company that its the same quality.
>>65156519Nobody who is informed buys Benchmade these days. They make the bulk of their sales at REI to granola people with more money than sense.
>>65156513>spending $250 on a stupid knifeRetarded priority.
>>65154947>can't even spread butterWtf.
>>65156684Please explain to the class how you know this.
>>65157655You don't even go here, fedboy.>>65157296If you can't use a skeletonized butter knife you have a skill issue.
Is there a knife out there like an Opinel but a flip knife? Something that is easily and fastly deployable with one hand, to open up boxes and clamshell packaging, cut fruit, and yes if I really needed to, defend myself with, that's cheap and won't immediately scare normalfags if I pull it out?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6HqN1i910EE
>>65158188Buck 110 auto?
>>65158188Consider a utility blade knife like the OKnife U1 or Civivi Utility or the like. They're bad at cutting fruit, but good for all of the other things you listed, and you can just call it a "box cutter", which doesn't scare the hoes as much as calling it a "knife".
Okay so now that you guys have gotten me sucked into this hobby. I want to buy my first exotic metal knife, a cool collector's piece. And I think I managed to narrow it down to these two:Benchmade Bailout - S90VPros: looks more priceyCons: not a fan of the Tanto, costs $50 moreSpyderco Sage 5 - REX 121Pros: probably the best edge retention in the game.Cons: plastic handle, cheaper. The price is an additional 5% off utilizing my government issued credit card which has some sort of deal with govx. I used to have a $10 coupon but I spent it on a PM2S. Which one do you think has the more exotic metal? A metal that has no reason being made into a knife?
>>65158365S90V isn't really that exotic at all. You can find it in numerous knives, some as cheap as $90 (like the Artisan Cutlery Revel). Rex 121 is in a completely different league from S90V, and moreover, Rex 121 is now essentially out of production (as is 15V). The only brand that still has a lot of Rex 121 on hand is Spyderco. So, if you want something in Rex 121, you probably should get one now. S90V is probably a more practical choice for everyday use, but if you want something "special", then Rex 121 absolutely is more special than S90V.
>>65158365when you say a cool collectors piece, i immediately think either sprint runs, which are limited edition drops from spyderco. or just company exclusives, which are knives made for stores that are only available on their websites. you could also go custom, which thats when you will see knives go for 400+there are also small batch knife makers like Chris Reeves, Hinderer, Medford, and Stryder. I personally like Hinderer.I mean if you want a Rex121 knife because people are saying its a steel that may not be manufactured again. yeah i guess. but this knife was a normal production run knife steel that may not be as exclusive and collectable.just know from my experience with knives is that if you are buying for profits. thats gay. but most knives that are limited edition, or sprint runs or customs or whatever that are low numbers and hard to come by often times only see a 100 dollar increase in price, maybe double or triple. the only real knives that are worth a fuck ton are old knives like a kephart, who was a famous knife maker 100 years ago and those knives are heritage. dont let me crush your dreams. but i own a sprint run knife. its cool im glad i own it. but chasing sprint runs are difficult and can be expensive, and its not like you are going to make a ton of money off of it. scalpers may 2x or 3x their funds at best and are just annoying as any other scalper in a collecting scene.
>>65158421I'm not trying to sell them for profit, but I think you're right. REX 121 is a cool metal but probably not limited or collectible like the 15V Better Business Bureau. I guess I lost my chance, and I honestly don't need the REX 121 to cope.
>>65158493i guess it just all depends on how much you want to spend. like if you go to ebay, you will see 15v listings all day of people already trying to scalp. they are asking 100 over MSRP. me personally, never give the scalper money, but if you really want it they are there. This is my REC "Avocado" PM2 sprint run. i really like it. the Avocado line is pretty cool.I have some Hinderers, Web Exclusive, and Custom Knives as well. I think its fine to go after Rex121. if you really want it too. I just buy knives to use them.
>>65158502That's a stock G10 scale? That is really cool.Honestly I was probably just blinded by the FOMO and didn't want to miss out. But now that you kinda pointed that out to me I am fine with it, in fact it made me feel pretty silly.
>>65158508Yes its G-10 scales. Those 15v knives, ive been looking at them for about a year now. i have had plenty of opprotunity to pick one up myself, but chose to pass up on it. there are listings on there that are a year old that is like a 200 dollar PM2 for 300. so its not like 15v is really going anywhere fast even on the secondary market. people are just trying to snag them for MSRP, or to scalp it. Im just not a fan of 15v. there will always be some kind of a sprint run knife.
>>65158514I am not a big fan of scalpers myself, like I would buy an AMD GPU over buying a scalped Nvidia GPU. I will not give them a cent, same goes for watches. I refused to buy from a grey market dealer unless it is under retail or I am getting a really good trade deal. I'll just keep checking the 'limited edition' sections on the Spyderco website. I was browsing through the Chris Reeves collection but I am not a huge fan of framelocks.
>>65158524>like I would buy an AMD GPU over buying a scalped Nvidia GPUYou should buy an AMD GPU anyways, they're great. t. 9060xt 16 GB
>>65158554I went from a 2080 Super to a 9770xt since I felt I won't need that much power. I don't think I am gonna game much anyways since I've lost interest in modern gaming and I prefer just working on things around the house. I probably had more fun applying water sealant in my bathroom than playing modern slop. I do enjoy sharpening knives now that I've gotten somewhat of the hang of it. I used to just make due with dull knives or just haphazardly hone them and just prolonging the inevitable. I guess as I get older my hobbies change. I never understood why tools were awesome Christmas presents for my dad. Now I personally want one of those Work Sharp sharpening stands.
i watch like a hundred tutorials on youtube and i still cant make my knives shaving sharp how long does it take to learn this skill people make it look so easy i feel retarded every time i get a sort of sharp knife i test it cutting some regular white printer paper and after like a few slices it starts getting stuck and rips the paper i spend like 30 minutes getting sore hands fucking sharpening this shit and it comes out like shit what the fuck bros i want to learn how do i stop sucking so hard
>>65158611I am pretty new to this shit myself but if your knife keeps getting caught you might have a microchip? I have a jewelry loop to see if I took off enough material. Another thing is to start off with a cheapo knife and don't be afraid to take off enough material. The more knowledgeable people in the last thread also posted a bunchy of helpful tips in the last thread.
>>65158611Depends on what you're using to sharpen? whetstones are a lot harder. I started on a lansky ~15 years ago to hold specific angles, I don't think I worked up to a stone until I got moraknivs like 7-8 years ago. I can get my knives very sharp but I'm not consistent with push strokes (angle-wise) after all these years, my pull strokes are consistent though. I don't know if I'll ever actually be perfect at it. Honestly just use a lansky, it's so simple and works for everything besides scandi grinds. Also use a fucking strop. Stropping is like 60% of having a sharp knife. get a leather stropping board off ebay and a brick of green polishing compound
>>65158717What do you think of these things? That outdoor555 guy seems to think they're excellent for the price. And I think Work Sharp has regular sale, if it goes down to $50 I might just buy one to try out.
>>65158721I bought it on sale but if you're any good at sharpening you dont actually need it.the worksharp one specifically is kinda flimsy and the lever is held to the device with a magnet so it falls off all the time. It's also not compatible with a ton of my knives, bascially anything that deviates from the knife brand knife shape really has trouble clamping on. Long fixed blade? Get fucked. Fancy knife with a crowned spine? Get fucked. Funny blade shape or shit like an american tanto? Get fucked.I unironically have that stupid sharpening lever just lying on my desk and use it to rehone my knives just like that without the stand.
>>65158721I can see it for reprofiling an edge where you're drastically changing the angle and want to get it perfect, not really for maintenance. Those types of fixed angle systems create beautifully clean edges, I don't really think a perfect edge is necessary to be truly sharp, stropping is far more important. They're not good for longer blades, you run out of stroke. I don't know I would just buy the $50 worksharp whetstone kit and learn how to use it properly. You can use a piece of thick glass and sandpaper to flatten your whetstone after several years of use.
>>65158741For maintenance if my knife isn't cutting through paper easily I just strop it with some 6 micron diamond compound. Then finish it off with 0.5 micron because I like my knives having a mirror finish. I've only reprofiled some cheap Ikea knives that my family kept in a box some where because they didn't want to throw them out using just the Work Sharp Field Sharpener. It's not perfect but they're all sharp again.
>>65158611I resharpen my knives whenever they are no longer "slicey" and when they are still cutting but the cutting performance is down. I like to resharpen sooner than later, because if keep on top of your sharpening, then you can just ceramic rod and strop the edge back to life. if you let the knife get super dull, you will have to reprofile the edge. there is a chance than you might be overkilling your knife. like maybe you just need to ceramic rod and strop it back to life, but you are following what an instruction guide says. which is start with coase, medium, fine, ceramic, and strop. and since you are doing that on an edge that is slightly dull you might be fucking yourself over by taking off more material than you should, and maybe the edge geometry isn't as precise as if it was done by a machine. in fact i almost recommend starting off with the ceramic, and if you feel like its not taking off enough material, then step down to the fine grit, instead of just assuming that you have to go through every step every time to resharpen.
also it takes me like 3 minutes to "freshen" up the edge just doing a ceramic rod and strop with jewelers polish. the jewelers polish is like a fine grit adhesive that will just help you get things extra sharp.
>>65158754I think I have the same strop, mine is also BeaverCraft. I don't use the green compound that came with it though I use this stuff.https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07S1Q6DGTI think DMT has a better quality compound but that shit is 3 times the price. And these provide a mirror finish.
>>65158763I think the green shit is better, but there are people that just want the perfect edge and its like if you want to buy all this crap so you can have the sharpest knife in the world, its not just elbow grease. so im fine with the stuff it came with. i can get the blade to shave sharp, and cut paper towels, maybe not whittle hair and s-curve a paper towel. but if that how far you want to take it thats fine. but at the same time is that if you do super sharp too, you can make the steel more likely to chip. so thats why im fine with middle ground, hair shaving sharp.
>>65158721I have one and I like it better than the Lansky. its ok for the 50ish bucks you pay for it. it will be able to get a knife razor sharp, and since its a fixed angle sharpener, it can help maintain a super clean geometry. but my one gripe is that if you are having to use the coarse grit, it will vibrate more and make the knob on the adjustable thread bump down. you could just clip it or something to keep it from moving. but yeah its a fine first sharpener.
>>65158801I don't think I will ever have to use it unless I allow my knife to get ridiculously dull. I might not even have to use much of the fine grit, maybe a few passes then hone/strop. If Work Sharp has an amazing deal on BF I might just get the pro version with the digital angle as a present to myself.
>>65158814i been wanting to learn free hand and probably will get some DMT plates. but if it aint broke dont fix it kind of thing.
Just get a Work Sharp Field Sharpener. Everything you need for $40, and will turn any pocket knife into a razor.The YT guys have a few grand in equipment and years of experience. I don't need to put a mirror edge on a Delica, though. I just listen to their tips (keeping wrist locked and moving elbow to get the tip, etc). Get a loupe so you can see what you're doing with the edge.My only gripe is the strop, it's pretty basic with whatever green shit. I want to get some separate ones and try out different compounds, etc.
>>65158900How long do those plates even last? Also do you guys think its crazy to buy a crossbar knife that isn't made by benchmade?
>>65158909What exactly did Benchmade do to make its cultists so unfailingly loyal to them? They don't even make the best crossbar knives, considering they still use omega springs
>>65158678>>65158717>>65158747ive tried various methods from using a sharpening steel rod to the pull through lansky to these japanese water stones and finally i got this diamond steel plate because it was shilled by the outdoors55 meme sharpener guy in one of his videos. https://www.amazon.com/SATC-Diamond-Sharpening-Stones-Sharpener/dp/B07YZ57ZVZi dont know if my angle if off or what. ive tried different techniques like only doing one side a ton like 50 passes then doing the other side just like 10 passes, or doing each side one aft r the other rotated for a total of 20 times on each side. i also tried swirling it in circles backwards, forwards, and figure 8s. i dunno i guess i just suck but i need this skill because i dont wnat to hae to keep paying spyderco postage to sharpen my shit every time
>>65158952Jesus fuck m8, what do the fucking knives look like after?
>>65158952I guess you are just going to have to be one of those guys with a belt sander.
>>65158994Not him, but I've thought about these. I can freehand sharpen everything else but I constantly blunt the tip and don't know how to stop. Of course, people also do that with the Work Sharp belt sander too, but it seems that's easy to avoid.
I feel like he is just overkilling it. IDK its like learning to ride a bike you just keep trying it until you can just do it right. you might have made the edge uneven and you might just have to look down the blade to see if each side is 50/50. like you need good geometry. like both sides same length and draw it out. it could also be that you grinded the edge back that you edge is a chode and its not a tall triangle but a shallow one. IDK what you did, but I just think it was some kind of autistic overgrinding that did you in. you can fix it but you have to just figure it out. but if you grinded too much away then it might be a thick chody knife. doesnt mean it cant be razor sharp, the thickness behind the edge is just thicker than where it originally was.
Consider it a Scandi grind.
>>65158989theyre fuckd man my kabar has this weird round shape now on the blade and its half polished or whatever on one side. i need a knife maker to use those belt grinders to remake the blade
>>65158996yeah the tip is where i fuck up too especially on my bigger knives because the tip is all skinny in width and the rest of the blade is fat and the recurve makes it hard to keep the same angle so i end up with a sharper middle and blunt tip or a sharper tip and blunt middle i dunno man all my knives are fucked now im probably just giong to sell them and start over again
>>65159022which grind is best for secondary use as a flat head screw driver
i think what you have done is grinded it back so far that its like the black lines an you need the grind taller like the red ones. thats why you probably cant get it super sharp, and im not going to lie it might be a belt grind job.i mean like i said you can get it razor sharp with it being that shallow, but it will feel like its still dull when you are cutting.
>>65159013He's not even getting the basic concepts. You have those down and you can use a coffee mug or a car window.He needs to just get one of these and call it a day.
>>65158994i use one of these for my kitchen knives
>>65158611didnt you just figure this shit out last thread or are you a new incompetent? either way go read the last one and take the sharpie advice.
>>65159030Mtech proprietary grind.
>>65155370Hit a nerve. Sad.
>>65158754Get this. Or don't. But protip is get this.
>>65159685I'm not the one frothing at the mouth because he didn't understand what I was saying and continued to harass me, even posting in the new thread before I even joined. Go tell mom to make you some more dino chicken nuggets while she wonders where she went wrong.
>>65159716You type like a woman. All namefags are attention whores.
>>65159109No I definitely figured it out, it's someone else... That's why I told them to go read the previous thread. Here: >>65158678
>>65159728Oh and your sperg-out is something, what, noble? Righteous? Self-sacrificing? You already had others tell you to fuck off, why can't you take a hint? You're the worst kind of tourist on any forum or community. You barge in, get butthurt the local community doesn't mirror your exact standards and preferences, shit all over the floor when someone tells you to fuck off, and then pull the "im only pretending to be retarded, why you mad" card, while secretly sobbing in your chair, asking why nobody likes you.
So why are all of the youtubers shitting on that Sharpens Best guy? Is it because it's just one old man and he couldn't pay their ransom or is that thing he's selling actually shit?
>>65160636Any pull-through is inherently bad for your knife because 1) it takes a ton of material off and 2) it's really damaging and doesn't leave a good edge. Oh and you can't control the angle as the carbide jaws are fixed. If you want to sharpen, say, a fish filet knife but also your hatchet for gathering fuel, you're SOL. Yes, he advertises them as "survival sharpeners", but you'd be better off buying a folding double sided diamond sharpener.
For me it’s the Fallkniven FDC.>>65160636Sharpening with a carbide pull through is like washing your car with an orbital sander.
>>65160610yeah i'm thinking based
Could someone recommend me a knife for my army belt?I want a small full tang knife that will sit next to the buckle before the comforter all the mag pouches start.So something the size of an ESEE Izula maybe?about 9 inchesI don't want to spend a lot on a knife that probably won't get used much, but also don't want to go too cheap in the event the one time I need it it fails.No fancy shit, just kydex sheath, black blade to avoid reflection, and doubles as a survival knife, as I'll probably end up using it more for cutting rope and MRE packs.No preference for shape, although I would like a tanto.Thanks for any suggestions.
>>65161637cold steel meme tanto. bonus points for san mai. maybe check ebay for a pre owned one
>>65161637KA-Bar mini tanto. I own the full one for a number of years, its been through tons of shit including my butter knife in college. https://www.kabar.com/p/5054 just over 9"
>>65161637Izula with factory g10 scales is a safe bet. The smaller handle would be less likely to snag when going prone, especially if you mount it horizontally. https://www.knifecenter.com/item/RCIZULAHANDLESB/esee-knives-black-g10-handles-for-standard-izula-izula-handles-b?srsltid=AfmBOoqRTgdz420s0W7iT0mgGFthKxDzS5jH_tNLHGapyuPCxv5efiQu The Esee 3 or 3HM with kydex are also good. I don’t care for the regular 3 because the finger choil is a waste of space. I really like the Esee Xancudo is probably my favorite small knife, but you would want to rit dye the handles black. The Varusteleka Jääkäripuukko 85 is another great small knife.
>>65160610>sperg-outYet another crying victim. Toughen up namefaggot. You attn whr.
>>65160610>local community>tupperware clubReally gone here.
>>65162298>>65162301>act like asshole>get called out>returns to double downNTA but we're all extremely sorry your personality disorder renders things like self-awareness and normal human interaction impossible for you. You should find another safe space to vent your babyrage
When it comes to sharpening, I can tell some areas are sharper than the other. What causes this? Inconsistent pressure or angle?
>>65161637Cold Steel Kobun. Light, and flat enough to forget about it. Sheath solidly locks the knife into it. You're choice of normal or full serrated
>>65163056>What causes this? >Inconsistent pressure possible>or angle?you have to keep in mind knives are not uniform. you have curves and other features maybe damage like knicks etc. just cause you are keeping the same exact angle doesnt mean that angle is correct for that section of the blade.
>>65158502I have the poorfag version of this knife, I really like it!
>>65159030You're asking the wrong question.
Should I? How bad is BD1N really? This is by far the cheapest USA made knife I've ran across.
>>65158721They're alright but the angle is inconsistent as you span the edge. The longer the knife, the worse this becomes. It's sturdy enough, but by no means a precision system.
Man I love sharpening this thing but it dulls really quick. Like I can go through not even two Amazon boxes and it would go noticeably dull. Is it normal for 8CRV or am I doing something wrong?
>>65165592Normal for 8CRV. You could make the angle more obtuse and / or give it a microbevel, but unfortunately the clay and cellulose fiber in the cardboard will dull it quickly. You can learn to strop on spare cardboard, like I used to do for my 440C BM clone, or go for VG10, D2, or other stronger steels.
>>65165597Ah, D2. A poorfag's best friend.
>>65165597As long as its the steel and not me I'm good. My only other knife is a Leatherman and >>65164843
>>65165418I have no 1st hand experience with BD1N, but people say it's mediocre. I have the magnacut yellow salt version. Shit's cash.
>>65165670Not a big fan of the yellow. I really wish Spyderco would sell the FRN scales by themselves.
>>65165617It really is, but it's just good enough that you can do more than just poke tape before you need to sharpen it. >>65165618That Spyderco will last longer.
>>65165677>Sell the scales separatelyI agree, that would be nice. Though you can dye those scales black pretty effectively. People do it with power tool components too.
>>65165803I think I will run into two issues with that:1. probably voided the warranty.2. if its anything like my Glock it will start to look ugly just sitting in my pockets within a few years. And this is with cerakote, not normal rattle cans. I honestly just wish I could find a website where people can sell/trade parts with one another.
>>65165847You really can just rit dye the scales black, though. Picrel were the yellow salt Sage 5 scales
>>65166006Can you link the how to?
>>65166030Step 1. Disassemble knife with Torx bitsStep 2. Clean knife scales with a bit of isopropyl alcohol. Step 3. Buy some Rit synthetic dye on Amazon for ten bucks. Step 4. Boil some water and pour the dye in.Step 5. Dunk scales into boiling water, holding them with a bent clothes hanger or wire.Step 6. Take scales out after a couple minutes.Step 7. Reassemble knife. Just be careful not to spill or drip the Rit dye, it'll stain whatever it touches. Very easy process.
Man this hobby is fun and cheap compared to guns. Especially in this economy when a box of 9mm for $20 is a fucking deal. I think my next hobby will be reloading, that being said I am deathly afraid of blowing up my guns. I don't even buy reloads...Look at this mirror edge? The weight of the leatherman alone is cutting into the lens cap. I'm probably not gonna try sharpening this thing though its so annoying to sharpen with how the handle is designed.
>>65166050Thanks anon, from what people are saying on youtube you're not going to get the color that is on the bottle. Like if you're scales started off as yellow and you want to do red, then it will come off closer to bright orange. So I will need to figure it out. I am also trying to decide if I want another spyderco or get a bugout S30V. The spyderco has a better steel for the same price but I already have a magnacut spyderco. Not only that but benchmade seems to have a wider selection of scales to work with mostly from china though.
>>65166087If you just want aftermarket scales for a Spyderco, Applied Weapons Tech or Ripp's Garage Tech should be able to sort you out. There's also dozens of Etsy shops, but some of those might be of dubious quality.
>>65166103The AWT scales are nice but with the extra hardware to match and the extra topography pattern the price ended up actually being higher than the price of the Manix 2. It still looks pretty cool though. There are also some nice benchmade scales to be had, including some cheaper G10s.
This is bullshit right? Knives associated with guns are always shit, my SW knife lasted 6 months before the plastic grips cracked. My Sig knife uses shit D2 steel. Yet I see people cut an axe head with this then proceed to slice through a piece of paper. There's no way something $30 can be this good.
>>65155370The fact that you responded so quickly is pretty pathetic.
>>65156393This guy fucks.
>>65156393>>65156396No Garberg?>>65156427Why not both?
The fuck is the point of cruwear or maxametI’m looking at some magnacut knives, already expensive, why spend like $200 more for “better” steel, how much “better” can it really get
>>65166763https://www.bladehq.com/blog/comparing-steels/Cruwear seems to be the same price as magnacut and is tougher but has less corrosion resistance. Maxamet is a 10 on edge retention, 80 dollars more than magnacut, and has little to offer in all other areas.
>>65166382its a mediocre knife but its not trash like the chink garbage you mentioned. its a utility field knife its thick for durability not actual usefulness as a slicer. its for breaking branches and digging holes or opening a can. its good for $30 i guess. might as well get it for the meme its cheap enough but youll realistically never use it since its not good at most slicing tasks you would use a knife for while camping
I want the best folding knife <$500 can buy
Well I’m about to buy my first knife, both are bugouts and I can’t pick. Bladehq has one I like with s30v for $200 and then on benchmade’s website I can make a custom bugout with magnacut for $225 if I don’t customize anything super special. Whatever I get I want it to last forever, I won’t be fishing with it or doing anything with saltwater, it’ll be a camping and general purpose home knife. Thoughts? I also don’t plan on sharpening it myself, at least I don’t think. I’d just send it in to benchmade for sharpening so I don’t really think ease of sharpening is a factor for me.
>>65166900govx has the s30v bugout for 140 -10% = $126 + your state taxes - $10 bonus introductory offer. You can also use the govx discount at Benchmade's own website for a quick 15% off on all their knives including custom made ones if you're going for the $225 Magnacut.
>>65166943Oh shit and I’m federal too, $126 is practically unbeatable for a benchmade. I was excited for the green/tan one on bladehq but color isn’t that important. Is s30v worth it? My coworker who is into knives described it as “perfectly good steel” but from my understanding magnacut is still better
>>65166983Depending on the heat treatment S30V might have a slightly higher edge retention than Magnacut, while Magnacut has superior corrosion and toughness. I am assuming Benchmade should use the best treatment for their blades.
>>65166413Garberg is fine, but I don’t care for it.
>>65166900Get a Hogue Deka instead.
>>65166900>Whatever I get I want it to last forever>omega spring knifeidk man.
The morakniv I tossed in my car for 5 years turned into a rusty plagueknife, is there an actually good cheap knife that can be forgotten about?
>>65167147Watch out, that one Bitchmade shill will pop up and start frothing at the mouth. >>65167158It's a carbon steel blade, ofc it rusted. You're looking for something in H1 / LC200N if you want to "set and forget", or Magnacut, CPM 20/110V, M390. But then you're trading edge retention, toughness, and ease of sharpening for rust resistance. Plus it gets pricey, so the answer is "no" for something similar price to the Mora.
>>65167147I mean anything with a spring at all won't last. The Manix 2 probably won't last as well. I love the Smock knives especially the Spyderco ones, but I have no idea why they added the detent. It just adds another point of failure IMHO.
>>65167158I have stainless Mora Companion and Basic in my truck for 6 years now and they are fine. Use your brain anon.
Thoughts on the Gerber Empower for EDC? I am not a outdoorsman or military so it won't see much abuse.
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/CN82830SK/condor-tool-and-knife-ctk828-30-sk-itzi-fixed-blade-knife-14c28n-two-tone-drop-point-blade-natural-micarta-handles-kydex-sheath?srsltid=AfmBOorEqu1XV80khvLCcspMhUHpK3qEhEqN23fbc8NuOGQPJh5W7cg2First Condor that caught my eye.
>>65168057$80 for a 14C28N non-folder?
>>65168069Don’t look at what an Izula costs these days.
>>65168134>$8 extra to go from 14C28N to S35VI'd say that's more than worth it, just buy some paracord and make yourself a survival grip.
>>65168143$93 for an Izula 2 with micarta scales and their bullshit plastic sheath.
>>65168150And 1095 at that.
Honestly I rather have the S35V at least we know where it came from(NY).
What do y'all think of this one? The grips look like its 3D printed but $15 for D2 feels like a good deal.https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DQBN4QV2?creative=9325&camp=1789&ie=UTF8
>>65168241Not a bad design, but I wouldn’t expect much at that price.
>>65167880overpriced from bloated brand. go kershaw
>get this email an hour ago>click itFUCK YOU
>>65168285>OverpricedBut not bad? I see one for 93 dollars shipped which is less than they typically go for I think.
>>65166121AWT Aggressive agents are great.
>>65168610
Anyone have a ProTech Malibu?
>>65168612
>>65168620
>>65168610Is that anodized aluminum on that one? I kinda like it with the blue.
>tfw will never own the better business bureau spyderco
>>65168635just tell knifecenter to email you when the restock happens
>>65168665Did that with Bento and Knifecenter as well as >>65168573.By the time I got to the email its gone.
>>65156393I have the monosteel tai pan and I love it but you will NEED to buy an aftermarket sheath, there are some on ebay.
>>65166943you can get one on aliexpress for $8
>>65167158morakniv makes a stainless version for retards like you who are too lazy to oil it once a year
>>65168615i had oneprobably the most satisfying action of any knife ive ever owned. the only thing i didnt like is the blade is pretty thick for a ~3" knife
>>65166802>and is toughernot anymore. Erasteel magnacut closed the gap. Cruwear is pointless.
>>65170281Good to know. I wish they made them in orange, though blue is a close second.My current two favorite puukkos. Just got the Jarvenpaa birch bark, feels great.
>order something from Chicago Knife Works>a week passed>nothing happensDid I just get scammed? Is anyone working there?
>>65170403It usually takes 2 weeks. I have placed a few orders there. Low prices aren’t for no reason.
>>65170403They have a bad reputation. They aren't an authorized dealer.
>>65170422>>65170424Wait so they're not a Benchmade dealer? Why are they getting Benchmade exclusive models?
Anyone know how to get the veteran discount to work? They said its 5% then an additional 10% for vets on qualifying purchases on their card. Or is it just 5% for gov and 10% total for vets?Also anyone have this knife? The metal is kinda meh but for this price it still beats anything from Chink brands which runs 14C28N and Nitro-V.
>>65170434I don't even see Benchmade listed on their site.
>>65170499You will see the 15% credit on the GovX credit card.>>65170511They're a Benchmade dealer. You can even check out using your GovX ID from benchmade's own website and get an additional 15% discount.
>>65170519>They're a Benchmade dealer.Who?GovX might be. I was talking about Chicago Knife Works.
>>65170499not a vet or glowie so no clue on discounts but id say bugout/535 are good around that price. i put metal scales on for vanity, but s30v is nothing to complain about. i think i said previously i hope s30 or s35vn becomes a budget steel in the new era of magnacut everything because it is so decenti do rec picking one without the coating on the blade. i think just over DLC. makes no sense on a highly stainless steel
>>65170524DLC is porous. I've seen rust under and through DLC coatings. It's not like cerakote.
>>65170523Sorry I somehow thought you were replying to me. >>65170499>>65170434>Benchmarked>Benchmaker
>>65170538my bad, i think *im over DLC, as in id rather just have a steel plain blade
>>65170538Bro chemically DLC is better than Cerakote when it comes to corrosion resistance. Ion Bond > DLC > Cerakote
Where to cop the knife?
>>65170544Well, I've seen rust develop on DLC coated blades. Under and through the DLC coating. DLC is porous, that's why it soaks up oil. It's not a barrier the way cerakote is. I wouldn't trust it for corrosion resistance better than the steel already has. It's good for preventing scratches and wear and not reflecting and being able to soak up oil for corrosion resistance though.
>>65170557>>65170544i just dont really see the point on a EDC knife in an already pretty stainless steel. s30v isnt going to rust out in your pocket after you get rained on. easier to just clean and keep a plain blade and it wont look all scratched up
>>65170587Well I bought >>65170499I don't even know if its just a stainless blade that is bead blasted or has some sort of coating. I guess I will find out.
>>65170587Yeah, for me, it's only stainless for pocket knives after my M4 pocketknife rusted a little bit in the sweaty summertime.
>>65170587DLC is more tactical and non-reflective.
So if we coat something like REX 121 with either DLC or Cerakote we will get something that will never have to be resharpen. And it will never rust?
>>65170620Rex 121 isn't even as wear resistant as ceramic, which eventually gets dull. The difference is you can actually resharpen Rex 121.
>>65170641But isn't the only drawback of REX 121 is that it is very susceptible to rust? Isn't that why people prefer 15V over it and Maxamet?
>>65170648It's also brittle.
>>65170555Mike Vellekamp Design by 5.11 Tactical, BLADETECHaka5.11 Tactical Tanto Surge Knife Utility Fixed BladeAppears to be long discontinued and not for sale anywhere.
>buy T6 and T8 from Amazon>tries to open my PM2>T6 screwdriver is strippedCan anyone recommend me some good T6/T8s?
>>6517064815V has actually somewhat respectable toughness (it’s on the level of M390), which, in conjunction with its high hardness is why a lot of people like it. The BBB guy claims his heat treatment that he developed for Spyderco also gives it a further bit more toughness by using a much lower tempering temp. Larrin talks about it on his site somewhere.
>>65170672Wera.
>>65170672China and terrible screw drivers, name a more iconic pairing.
>>65170672Everyone says Wiha or Wera bits. Home Depot had them in stock in store on their website, so I went there and all they had was Husky, so I got that and just make sure I don't strip them anymore.
>>65170681>just need the T6 and T8 I don't need the whole set>for some ridiculous reason buying just the T6 and T8 somehow costs more than the set
>>65170687Try KCTools, might be cheaper piecemeal there. Otherwise, get the Wera Tool Check set or some tool truck set and never worry about shit again.
>>65170690What do you think of this one?https://www.amazon.com/Klein-Tools-70550T-Heat-Treated-High-Leverage/dp/B0CYRGC6YX/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&sr=1-1
>>65170714>Wiha 79242 11 Piece Torx Bit Selector (T5-T30) https://www.amazon.com/Wiha-79242-Piece-Selector-T5-T30/dp/B001US4RMI
>>65170524>think i said previously i hope s30 or s35vn becomes a budget steel in the new era of magnacut everything because it is so decentIt already is. Just like D2 used to be a supersteel that is now a budget steel as it replaced the budget steel before it. Fuck, even Magnacut will be a budget steel someday.
>>65170799Probably in 5-6 years when Magnamax becomes the norm.
>>65170808i like magnacut more than magnamax; especially Erasteel's. It's easier to sharpen and it's more forgiving than magnamax and basically every other steel with comparable or greater wear resistance when doing stupid shit like blister packs and zipties. And it holds an edge decently long.
>>65170808As soon as we can get Magnacut in 50-60 dollar knives, it's budget, I'm already seeing some skim 100.
>>65154947I have one of those, it is indeed very sharp
>>65159047I also have one of those but a bit nicer wihout the screwdriver
>>65159047Can't easily open mail with a box cutter. not long enough.
>>65170714I wouldn't even trust that for my current job, and I'm currently looking for a new hex set.
>>65170869Let me know what you find.
Ended up getting a kershaw iridium, price matched at $60. D2 steel, drop point blade, really really smooth action. First actual "nice" knife I've owned, can't complain at all at this price. Almost went with a griptilian or bugout but they didn't feel much better for over twice that price
https://www.amazon.com/WERA-05056653001-Kraftform-Kompakt-Pieces/dp/B0001P186O/ref=sr_1_8?sr=8-8#averageCustomerReviewsAnchor>one picture t5-t9>another picture t10, t15, t20
>>65170871Well this'll be Hex not Torx, but I'm not sure if I'll go ball end or solid shaft. It'll be a T-handle because I need the torque. If I can get these guys to gimme a spare or broken part I can tell for certain what size handles I get. Probably just a hex key from MAC, so I can warranty it when it breaks cuz it's a size 2. >>65170875They're really not bad knives for the price. If they had an aftermarket for the pocket clip / glassbreaker I'd like them more.
No antiques thread so I'll post the wootz katar I got (paid a bit too much for it) recently. Need to receive it and clean it up, a big hunting style, I love the hollow grinding of all the angles, very gothic and pretty. IIRC it's about 47cm OAL with a 27cm blade. Kinda wanna get a drop leg holster and EDC it just because fuck it punch dagger.
>>65171012*Paid more than I was allocating for one, seller is a lovely chap, I just got off budget
>>65171016>>65171012I have one (katar) but it is too small a grip for by hand, did you know that they were used in combination with dahl? I have a decent collection of indo persian pieces and sikh stuff, afghan, nepak etc. Most of my stuff is European though, mainly cavalry sabres
>D2>axis lock>$10Give me ONE reason not to buy this
>>65171350a while back when those were new and all the preppers were losing their shit about 10$ d2. somebody tested them and a decent amount had fucked heattreats. they didnt perform like d2. the dude had 3 and 2/3 were fucked. apparently when chang sharpened it theres a decent chance he gave zero fucks and burnt the edge. then you just paint over it and sell your knife shaped object anyways.
>>65171360Someone on YouTube did a durability/edge retention test on one of these things against the S30V Bugout and it beat it.
>>65171350It's not very good
>>65171350I understand wanting to annihilate Benchmade because they’re a bunch of retarded liberals who sell knives to REI shoppers, but you can just get a good knife instead. You don’t need to get the Walmart poverty option.
>>65171958I recently spent $60 on an iridium for my edc I just want a camping knife I don’t have to worry about breaking
>>65172245Mora Companion
>>65171031Based, sword collectors are a small group and most of us are on the IASC so I'll try not to powerlevel either of us. I really want a khanjar with a good fullered and robust wootz blade and a lapis hilt. Idgaf if its antique or not, as long as the blade is proper wootz (koftgari appreciated) and a good non-dyed lapis lazuli hilt, that's good enough for me.I have walked ass backwards into an Indian Mutiny sub collection though all swords are English. One of the ones I paid a dumb amount for is a Wilkinson presentation sword made in the style of well basically anywhere the Turkic groups made it to. A slightly shorter blade, the hilt doesn't seem to match any 1 specific thing like Caucasian, Hungarian/Polish style, Turkish, etc. Regular etching on the blade, original silk velvet covered scabbard. It was just too cool not to pick up.I haven't researched the serial number yet but it was made in 1857/1858 iirc so definitely related.
>>65171958If you can deal with flaws, check blem sales at places like eknives, pvk, edclifestyle, etc. You can get mid and high end knives a lot cheaper. Or when new lines replace old ones a la the Ultratechs where the old ones were going for dumb cheap.
>>65172283I definitely trust Mora but is the steel not worse than this walmart knife?
>>65172360There's no guarantee that the walmart knife steel is heat treated efficiently or even correctly.
>>65172360Watch the Outdoors55 review, his had a burnt edge. He had to grind it way down to get to useful steel.
Really like morakniv but want something more serious and traditional. Thoughts on Marttiini?
>>65172693Don’t have any but I’ve never seen anything bad about them. Personally I really like Ahti. The 4 I have exhibit perfect handles, and the blades are step above most lauri sourced blades. The coke bottle style handles are maximum comfy. The downside is that they are not exactly traditional.
>>65172693They're okay. I like to stuff them up my ass like a buttplug, but my cavernous, prolapsed rectum is so cavernous that I'd need at least 12 of those to satisfy me. Unfortunately, I need to wear diapers to keep my busted anus from leaking all over the place.
>people who deploy their Spyderco with the middle finger instead of the thumb are the biggest snobbish douchebags on the planetit takes almost half a seconds longer to deploy with the middle finger since you have to actually shift your grip to do so. You're just being extra for the point of being extra.
>>65172721>open a spyderco with your thumb>it doesnt "bite" you but the sudden click of the "compression lock" actually compressing your hand-meat is concerning and disturbing, like something is wrong, especially if you do it often and you are not looking at the knife. Anything that feels off when you're deploying a knife from your pocket or belt and you're not looking really interrupts your flow and makes you stop and double check everything is fine.theres a reason why people invented the flick
Why is this nub thing? I don't see it in any other compression lock Spydercos.
>>65173025thats part of the blade sticking out the back when its folded, they make it into a nub and call it something retarded like a sharpening choil or something just so you dont cut yourself
>>65173025It's the choil of the bade BECAUSE ALL KNIVES NEED TO HAVE CHOILS FOR SOME REASON, ESPECIALLY THE SMALL KNIVES
>>65173033>>65173034Damn that's a pretty big blade then.
>>65155370Well what did mtfag end up typing
>want to buy some Bugout scales>AWT 70+>Flytanium 40+ but made in China>look into Aliexpress>same scales for $20>see a Benchodemade knockoff knife with an identical scale for $7Someone make this make sense, if I want to buy just the scales it’s $20. But a whole knife with D2 steel is $7? What’s the catch here?
>>65172693Knives with fingerguards are for fags. Just don't cut yourself lmaoThe good:>cheap ones are cheap>sharp as fuck right out the box>proper scandi grindThe bad:>lower HRC heat treatment on most models than would be ideal>the actual fuck are these grinds bro they are hiring blind mongoloids, reindeer herders smashing blades out of truck springs do better>sheathe fitment is too tight on many models, requires two hands to draw (only ones with a traditional puukko style sheathe) >garbo mystery meat stainless (their carbon steels are fine)
>>65172987The coping never ends for compressionfags
Hello /kg/, I come to you with a question. I have several knives, but my favorite is a Kershaw Cannonball. I use it as my EDC knife. My question is are there any knives like it with a better blade steel than D2? I want something with a similar handle geometry. Feel free to shit on me for being a phone poster.
>>65173238if you like kershaw you will love zero tolerance
>>65173098The catch is, is it actually D2 steel, are the rest of the parts proper steel and not pot metal from some scrap bin, how fast will it rust, how good are the springs / washers/bearings, lack of warranty, etc. >>65172717Really funny how butthurt this Bitchmade fag got because his shitty omega springs have had issues for decades. You need to go touch grass dude.
>>65166413I own 2. This is why I said, I dont actually need another knife. but like i said, I am building a bugout bag and want a knife that is more focused on meal prep than fort building. and the 14C28 steel is very tough and you could do some fort building with it if you really needed to. just scandi grinds are superior for bushcraft. but for a bugout scenario, which is very unlikely, but still, I figure something that can be used for meal prep, utility and possibly self defense over fort building.
>>65171350D2 is poor mans M390. Its not a bad steel. its just you should be mindful of what you are getting. they are clearly trying to satisfy their customers while going as cheap as possible. D2 isn't the strongest, nor a stainless steel. which they use the coating to overcome the lack of stain resistance, which is a smart way to overcome a shortcoming. But since its not super strong, its not really a good choice for outdoors. even though its sold under a Outdoor brand. I figure that Walmart thinks lets just sell a cheap knife with awesome edge retention, and if it breaks well its the customer is just out 10 bucks. will it break for EDC tasks? no. but maybe if your whacking it hard then it might. that's why i kind of just roll my eyes at D2 steel for outdoors. you want something a little stronger. If you want the walmart knife for outdooring, just don't pry or wack with it. you could do the normal stuff like food and kindling for a fire. but I would get a steel that is a little more stronger than D2 for an outdoor folding knife just for peace of mind. Walmart clearly knows what their customers will do with these. EDC and if it breaks due to abuse, will they actually be mad when all they pay is 10 bucks?
>>65174016Victorinox Venture?
>>65174106Im not going to lie, I hate Victorinox. I was willing to look into this, but Gideon'sTactical said it was shit, and he actually tests knives so i do respect his opinion. and he said that the knife was designed too thin for hard use outdoor tasks. They made changes to fix it so its a thicker design to hold up to outdoor tasks. but the damage is done, my favorite knife shill said its no bueno. Also the Joker Campero is similar and i thought about it as well for a Bugout knife. but I'm pretty set on getting the Ruike Jager despite people saying the handle is small. I wear medium sized gloves so it doesn't matter much to me.
>>65172987>it doesnt "bite" you but the sudden click of the "compression lock" actually compressing your hand-meat is concerning and disturbing
>>65174154>Stop reverse flicking your knives, you are affecting my sensibilities. I dont cry when you twirl your butterfly dildo open.
>>65174154>>65174173>>65172721sorry i was replying to this guy.
>>65174097I have my iridium for my EDC knife and currently a morakniv companion for my actual camping/fishing etc knife. Hard to beat the companion for the price, but let's say I do want an actual high quality camping knife (no saltwater fishing), what steel do you reckon would serve me best? Magnacut? Something I can actually put a beating to and have it keep going. Mostly on wood, but let's say I needed to dress game with it or something
>>65161637old timer sharpfinger
>>65174202depends on how much you are willing to spend. 3V, MagnaCut, Cruwear are all very similar and you cant go wrong getting one of these steels as the "best" outdoor steel knife. Cheaper options are AEB-L, 14C28N, 8Cr13MoV and AUS-8 are really good entry level steels. I actually don't like 1095 steel. all these steels i just mentioned are better than 1095. Id say the main attribute you want in an outdoor fixed blade is toughness. which 1095 is kind of weak. another good attribute for outdoor steels is corrosion resistant which most the steels i mentioned above are stainless or "semi-stainless". and edge retention is kind of subjective because some people claim that >well i want something easy to sharpen in the field so fancy supersteels are not as good as budget steelswhich is true, but also supersteels edges last so long that you probably wouldn't need to resharpen a lot. which also 1095 dulls super easy. Lots of people shill esee knives, but I think that 1095 is just barely holding relevance. why would you choose a 150 dollar Esee when other companies can do 14C28N for under 100 which is objectivly just better. like if you want something under 100 bucks, there are a several knives in 14C28N or AEB-L that are going to be really good. but if you have money to spend, 3V, Cruwear, or MagnaCut. Which the Demko FreeReign is around 200 in 3V and is probably one of the better things to buy. Fallkniven are pretty overpriced and IMO overrated as well. people buy them like gucci bags, just to say they own one. there are tons of good outdoor knives, but I think its more about what you want.
trust me too. dont listen to a boomer fudd trying to cope over his 1095 steel. it rusts like a mother fucker, it dulls like a mother fucker and its decently strong. just so many knife steels outclass it, the only reason why it hasnt been pushed out of the market is because if you are getting a 10 inch chopper or a machete, well you either spend 200 on a 1095 for one, or you spend a 1000 on a nicer steel. its barely holding relevance.
>>65174127Fair enough. Trying to find a flat grind at a decent price is tricky. GT shares a lot of preferences that I have, so I do watch his vids.
>>65174370Joker Knives don't get a lot of marketing in the US I have noticed over the years. I think their line up is actually pretty sweet for the price. The Joker Campero does offer 14C28N flat grind knife that is really a nice knife for the price. there are hundreds of options but some are just better than others and i hate the companies that want 150 for 1095 when its basically an obsolete steel. you can get so much better for cheaper, or more expensive. it puts it in a weird place in the market where its just double fucked by its competitors and people cry over buck 420HC but wont say shit about 1095 even though 420HC is another steel that is way better than 1095 also. You know knife shills. they wont say the truth and Esee aint sending me free shit so i dont give a fuck about boomer steels.
>>65174225>>>well i want something easy to sharpen in the field so fancy supersteels are not as good as budget steels>which is true, but also supersteels edges last so long that you probably wouldn't need to resharpen a lot.This debate has been around since 440C came out and will last until the Sun explodes, and at the end of the day it's down to end-user preference after actually going innawoods and using their knife for something other than looking cool. Another thing that people fail to consider is blade profile, specifically of the cutting edge.
>>65172987I mean TBQH you need to alternate how you open your knife anyways since you don't want to put too much pressure on one side. Doing that will cause the blade to not be centered and eventually cause a wobble.
>>65156180S30V is pretty terrible, it doesn't hold an edge very well while being very 'chippy' and it feels kinda flimsy compared to more modern steels like Magnacut. For an almost $200 knife I kinda wish it came with something like Magnacut or S90V.
Here's a hot take. I think people with ten 200 dollar premium knives have a WAY better collection than some dumbass with 100 cheapies. you spent the money incorrectly and i know it and i hate pretending like your giant collection of knives i dont know the names to are important.
>>65175654i agree that bigger isnt better. but actually id say it applies even if its 100 premium knives. and i think we should appreciate the cheapies too. i actually respect the hell out of guys happy with like 3 cheapo michina kershaws or crkt's or some shit. you like what you like.also regardless of price point, good design is good design. i ended up selling all the little slip joints i had since the only one i really loved was the victorinox solo. i have like three of them and ive given a few away, its the perfect little knife. and the hollow grind on the leek is on par with CRK.
>>65175682I'm not saying its wrong to own cheap knives. most people start out with cheap knives because if I'm going to abuse a knife, well it might as well be the 50 dollar one. its more just about how people end up in the position they are in where they have like i said, 100 cheap folding knives. probably because they convinced themselves that 200 dollar premium knives are a scam, and its dumb to waste the money, but then they hypocritically ended up spending more money than they should on crap, when they would have been better going for quality over quantity. but if i owned 100 premium knives, then why would i care about cheapies? i already have a premium beater knife myself that i am willing to use and abuse. your perspective just shifts. you should get one sometime. I like my premium beater.
>NOOOO YOU CANT JUST TAKE A 200 DOLLAR KNIFE AND USE IT, QUICK GET A CHEAP ONE AND SAVE THE HEADACHE OF REPLACING A BLADEVS>Im going to beat the ever living shit out of this 200 dollar knife and if i break the blade, it will cost about the same as a 50 dollar folder. LMAO.
>>65175766>cutting up the fabric on an old couch so I can break it down to fit in a dumpster>"hmmmm I'll use one of my nicer knives" (k390 endura)>cuts through fabric and foam reasonably well>touch one of the couch springs>edge gets instantly wiped offI'm sure glad I use a "super steel" knife. My $23 Milwauke fixed blade could never have done exactly the same thing.
>>65175766Or get a box cutter and a lifetime supply of blades for less than the alleged cost of your replacement blade alone. Even cheaper if you count the stone you don't need to buy. When you need an expensive knife nothing else will do, but they're hardly necessary for most tasks people do. From that standpoint, spending less on an undesired luxury (that you might lose or want to loan out) just makes sense so long as the cheapo still does the job.
Should I get an Osborne 940/940-1 or a Spyderco Para 2
>>65177011What size gloves do you wear?
>>65177020Medium
>>65177011Hogue Mysto
>>65177033They both might be ok for medium size hands. I have a 9400, and it seems kind of small for my L/XL size hands. Great for a tool, not so great if it needed to become a weapon. The Paramilitary 2 is probably more ergonomic with a more delicate but stabbier tip. People say the 940 blade is more robust for abuse like opening paint cans.
>>65177041I kinda wanna just go to my local Bass Pro and pick up something today, they don't have it.>>65177046Cool thanks, leaning more towards the Para 2 now. It was already the cheaper option anyway.
>>65177062Handle them all and get what you like if you'll have them all in front of you.
>>65165592doesn't cardboard just like, absolutely fuckin dick down the edge of a knife pretty much no matter what? that's why people just use boxcutters brolike >>65165597 said you can use cardboard like a fuckin leather strop because of what its made of, it's just not gunna last like leather obv.>>65166382GLOCK BRAND GLOCK beater knife that's long enough to stab someone very deeply like into their important parts and cheap enough that you could baton wood and use it as a fuckin throwing knife inna woods or a prybar and if it snaps just grind the tip into a knife point againthe grind on mine had a factory flaw near the tip but its still pretty sharp
>>65177138Depends on the metal and angle TBQH, really soft shit like 8CRV will get fucked pretty quickly maybe within one box. At 20% it becomes more durable, if you're bad at angles then who knows what edge you're at. Also that anon is just doing that shit for fun though. >>65177138I love Glocks in general and knowing that before the gun Gaston made this fucking knife makes me really want it. That being said, I will wait until I go hunting/camping again because right now I don't even know what to use it for. Sadly I have no idea when my next trip will be, people just want to do different shit. Like a lot of my friends rather go to South East Asia or Thailand than go camping/hiking/adventuring for 2 weeks.
>>65172286>I have walked ass backwards into an Indian Mutiny sub collectionI have a lot of souveniers of it and the raj, from the sikhs, gwailor, mysore, Afghanistam Jammu and Vijayanagara ranging from matchlocks through dahl, tabar, talwar and katar as well as gifts from personalities in the raj and gemstones
>>65176180>touch one of the couch springs>edge gets instantly wiped offmy fully serrated edge would tank that btw
>>65177011Para 2, at least it's cheaper
>>65177062Even though the 940 is heavily shilled and people keep buying them, its pretty overrated. the main complaint people have about it, is how chunky the blade stock is. which is great if you are using it for hard use. IMO the PM2 is better for the average user.
>>65176180>>65176248box cutters are based if you are a tradesman, Cringe for EDC.
Bear ops knives any good? I saw they have a balisong with a pocket clip and I think it'd be funny to have
>>65177768I agree. They're all too bulky and ugly to carry. Not long enough to open mail either.
>>65177768Translation: box cutters are for people who actually use knives. Pocket jewelry is for posting on the internet.>>65177842behold. It is the exact same bulk as any other folding knife.
>>65177913you put 10 box openers in your pocket for EDC for all i care, im carrying a real knife. dont care if you just think its pocket jewelry.
>>65177913OUTDOORS55 just roasted the knife version of thisthe box cutter version seems to have a good reputation though
>>65178027Not him but I've been using a hawkbill Milwaukee for like 2 years now with no problems and IDGAF what some YT fag I've never heard of has to say.
>>65178046Does it flip open when you push the button and flick your wrist as advertised? His main problem was it didn't and he bought 3 just to make sure. That and the 53 rockwell blade that lost its edge after one cut of cardboard.
My utility knife made by fucking OLight has better action and better centering than my Benchmade Mini Griptilian. This thing is pretty based for $25, especially with the Dewalt carbide blades.
>>65178055Is the screw holding the blade in retained in any way?
>>65178027I have cut probably 100 miles of boxes, and ill tell you that the box opener blades were designed for a specific purpose, and that purpose is limited edge penetration, which is why the utility blade should only be exposed halfway, which also goes into why they are designed to be flipped so you can get double useage out of one blade. long story short is that they are trying to revolutionize the ultility knife industry and when some dumbass buys one of these and cuts into 1000 dollars worth of product because TheBestDamnEDC said these things are amazing even though he never works warehouse to understand why these thing are a waste of money and ultimately just fucking stupid. unironically leave the box cutting industry to actual companies that specialize in making good designs.
>>65177913>exact same bulk as any other folding knifeIt's not though.
>>65178059It’’s captive by being flattened on the other side so it can’t fall out if you back it out all the way. The only real downside to this thing from what I can tell is that you pretty much have to use the little tool (or a pair of pliers, or a wood surface you don’t mind marring) to tighten the screw fully, because if you just get it finger tight, it can back out on you a bit.
>>65178027Never used the knife version. Don't see any point to it.>>65178052The box cutter version does. Quite easily.>>65178063they're not made for chattel working at Amazon retard, they're made for tradefags who don't want to destroy a million knives or deal with retardproof box cutters that suck at cutting anything and everything.>>65178064is
>>65178069well im talking about the trend of these designs trying to "UTILIZE THE FULL CAPACITY OF THE UTILITY BLADE EDGE".its stupid because like i said the utility knife is designed from the ground up to limit penetration to not damage product. its a gimmick and a waste of money and if anyone who uses utlility knives for anything meaningful will tell you that if you cut through 1000 dollars worth of product then your ass is STUPID. these are just to appease the people who THINK they will be super useful. they dont fool me.
>>65178074They are incredibly useful if your task is anything but box cutting with your utility knife.>b-buh muh productYes, yes, good golem, don't make the master angry by your incompetence.
>>65178069You're being retarded on purpose, also I am not buying a milwaukee folding box cutter.
fucking look at that centeringBenchmade could NEVER
>>65178079you know who cant take advice about the weather on mars from someone who has never left earth.
>>65178074You’re missing the point of them. They’re supposed to be cheap knives you never have to sharpen, because you can just drop a new blade in. They’re not specifically meant to cut into boxes alone. You just use it like you do any other cheap EDC knife, except you can drop a new blade in rather than sharpen it.
>>65178083How would you feel if you had to cut something other than boxes containing product?>b-but I do have to cut boxes containing productI don't know why I'm even bothering to talk to you as if you're human.>You're being retarded on purposeNo, I am telling you there are thousands of uses for a utility knife beyond cutting boxes. However, since you lack an internal monologue you're stuck in a loop going "can't damage mastuh's product, muh product, the consumer needs the product!" over and over and over.
>>65178093This is what I suspected.
>>65178093no you are missing MY pointok so im doing drywall cuts with my milwaukee fastback that is cuts JUST DEEP enough to not cut other shit. so who is this for but morons that think they just hacked the code for utility knives and teh people that buy these are morons that dont understand why its a bad design. it should be obvious to anyone who actually does shit for a living.
>>65178101You don’t have to be so upset that people other than you have more fulfilling jobs that aren’t just cutting into boxes in a warehouse, dude. You just use it like any other knife (read: knife, not box cutter).
>>65178103its like i said, you dont take advice from people that dont know what they are talking aboutwhich you clearly DONT. actually you know what, dont take my advice.go run out and buy one of these things because some faggot on youtube that got sent one of these for free said its the best shit ever, like this dumbass. im laughing. >>65178086
>>65178095Yes. It is bad at tasks that don't involve cardboard boxes. I have a real knife and it's better. >I don't know why I'm even bothering to talk to youPlease stop. You never had a sale anyway.
>>65178106Relax dude, I just wanted a knife I can open envelopes with. I have a big boy job that isn’t breaking down boxes with the other human cattle in the Amazon warehouse. Maybe if you study really hard, you too can one day work with your brain and not your arms!
>>65178108>saleDo you think Milwaukee is actually paying someone to shill their $5 fucking practically disposable knife, and is choosing me, who is calling you a raped kike slave as his sales pitch?>I have a real knife and it's better. That's great, sometimes better isn't more important, what is important is having a disposable blade you don't care about.
>WERE ABOUT TO REVOLUTIONIZE THE INDUSTRY.>ALL THESE DUMBASS UTILITY KNIFE COMPANIES HAVE TOTALLY BAD DESIGNS>BUY OUR DESIGN THAT FULLY UTILIZES THE BLADE TO ITS 100% CAPABILITY.>DONT QUESTION ANYTHING. I hate arguing with retards.
>>65178116That doesn't matter at all. If you want the full blade use the full blade if you don't then get a different knife.It's not that deep you're just stupid.
>>65178118*trying to reinvent the wheel*you know thats not going to work right? >SHUT UP THIS DOESNT INVOLVE YOUyes it does its stupid and you should feel bad.
>>65178116You're retarded. Civivi is not trying to put the Milwaukee Fastback out of business. They're trying to put Kershaw out of business. Again, the point of those knives is to have a cheap EDC knife, not to have a utility knife. You can post as many soijaks as you want, but you're just embarrassing yourself.
>>65178052>Does it flip open when you push the button and flick your wrist as advertised?Yes, quite easily. It only started having trouble when pocket lint started building up. I cleaned it and oiled it and it's right back to snapping open. I break down a lot of cardboard so either he got 3 lemons or he was complaining for views. The worst I can say about mine is that it's no longer centered but that's because I occasionally have to pry stuff open with it so I think it's held up pretty well for a folding knife. The tip did break but that was because I lent it to someone who's known to be kind of a dumbass, I sure as hell wasn't about to hand him my Spyderco. I filed it down to a new tip and it's all good.
>>65178074Wow that knifes pretty fucking stupid. I like how its a torx screw instead of a flathead that fits other replacement blades in the slot for easy use.
>>65178124>A knife can be anything i want it to be. you are just too stupid to understand.k princess anything else i should know before i completely filter your opinions as a human? because im not buying your new gimmick.
>>65178126His was the normal folding knife version, not the hawkbill.
>>65178116Finally, a chinese fidget toy knife for the plebian who can't sharpen.The goyim market will never be the same.
>>65178129Yeah, here's some advice: get your GED so you don't have to work in a warehouse 12 hours a day breaking down cardboard boxes for your betters like the little golem you are.
good thing the world is not built by SOI hands who dont know shit.
>>65178119>yes it does its stupid and you should feel bad.more blade is good for many things.>b-but muh product must remain unharmed
>>65178113Nibba thinks he's cool for being low-effort
remember when the fat retard tried to brag about his dead end warehouse job being really hard or something?lol
>>65178135
>>65178141if Mr. Noseberg catches anon damaging the precious product within the boxes, he won't be happy!
im watching people that dont matter try and pretend like they matter as if their opinons carry anything of substance or value try and devalue a working man.
>>65178141>more blade is good for many thingsYou cant actually use the more blade. The bar on the top limits the angle you can cut with. Like you couldnt cut a thick carrot in half with it.
I'm watching a retard who can't fathom use cases for a knife beyond his own use cases because he's one of those 80 IQ people you hear about who doesn't understand hypotheticals
>>65178155but I did eat breakfast
i like how im being cut short, but i have 193 million dollar inheritance and i would buy your entire neighborhood just to tear down your family home to watch you cry.
>>65178156but I do work in a warehouse cutting open boxes!
POOR FAGS DONT WORK FOR SHIT AND I HAVE TO BE SUBJEGATED >but were smart we dont work for mr goldberg>but were better because were dindu nuffin for no one. well i earned what i got and what im going to get. so seethe fatty. and stay poor and mad
literal subhumans trying to one up me.lose weightget more than 1000 dollars in your bankand do something of value to society
>>65178163>POOR FAGS DONT WORK FOR SHIT AND I HAVE TO BE SUBJEGATED You have certainly been subjugated retard, the word just doesn't mean what you think it does.
>>65178176im totally poor working laborim totally richer than everyone ITT but i cant touch it yetim getting pushback from weakfags that dont even deserve my time of day
so lets get back on topic. you dont know shit about utility knives. you are coping because you never worked a day in your life. you are projecting your superiority, but in all reality i could care less. FATTY.
>>65178135I don't really think that matters unless they're made in a different factory, which isn't out of the question because China. That said, Snap-on used to sell the same knives with few complaints. Of course it's a possibility that they're also different now because China. Ultimately I bought my Milwaukee because they had a good reputation and I've been impressed with it and so have other people and I'll take that over a YTer chasing views any day. Of course from your side of the internet I'm just some internet guy so you'll take this with a grain of salt and I can respect that.
>mogs the opinel, and all of franceNothin personell
Has anyone ever been this mindbroken in a /kg/ thread before?>>65178184yes it's clear you could care a lot less.
wow so many dumb people ITT that want to give their 2 cents about what's good or bad for utility knife designs but they hardest work they ever did what scratching their asses. im so fucking impressed. why should anyone ever see you as anything else besides a leech to society. a sniveling little worm that is stupid and should be ignored. I DONT KNOW.
>>65178189opinels are gay.
>>65178194You don't know a lot of things. Realizing this is some important character growth. I'm proud of you.
>>65178200just take the fucking L. you dont know shit.
>>65178188I don't have any Milwaukee knives, so I don't know about them. They do have kind of a cult following and people have brand loyalty to them and say they are great, so it was surprising to hear that a fastback couldn't be flipped open and is essentially a two-handed opening knife except he also had to push a button on top of it and that the steel was too soft to hold an edge.
can we just talk about KNIVES instead of hearing weak wrist faggots project their importance because their ego's got 4th wall broken.
>>65177811>>65178189I don't trust any bear knives unless they spell it wrong like in KA-BAR. Bear Ops, Bear and Sons, etc. sounds like cheapo stuff to me.
>>65178213We are baptized by the bump limit and can forget all this in the next thread.
>>65178203I'm a plumber. I know all about shit, boxboy.
>>65178235yeah and i have a yoga certification, worked with mentally disabled people. call centers, fast food, and labor. we all been somewhere and served some role to society. can you explain as a plumber why you actually need a utility knife. no seriously, im genuinely curious. call me poor or weak again and ill give you a piece of my mind.
>>65178206I'll tell you what I tell the co-workers who like my knife, they're $15 at Home Depot and you can pick one up for yourself. I can also recommend pic related, I picked one up on a whim when I was there for some tin snips or something and I was surprised. The grinds on mine are kind of fucked but it came with a surprisingly nice factory edge for a cheap knife and the handle is comfortable and the action is probably the best in its price range.
>>65178244>call me poor or weak again and ill give you a piece of my mind.I called you neither, I've so far called you retarded, non-human, and a whole bunch of other things. I'm sure you've got that retard strength and are rich in spirit or something.>can you explain as a plumber why you actually need a utility knife. Cutting things.
im arguing with a plumber who probably uses a utility knife to cut tape over how they are gimmick products suck because i worked in warehouses that will cut hundreds of miles of boxes on the design flaws of modern utility knives.
>>65178116im going to die on this hill that shit is a waste of fucking money, and you shouldnt be psyoped into buying one.
>>65178286Yes, we went over that like an hour ago. You cut boxes. Lots of people cut things other than boxes. Tape is one of them, but I'm worried you're still not grasping the concept because usually when you cut boxes, you cut the tape.>>65178306Dying on a hill requires someone willing to kill you on it. No one is going to put you out of our misery unfortunately. What you're going to do is keep muttering "but I cut boxes" and "muh product muhfugga," with me until this thread hits page 10 while I click on trees in runescape and drink whiskey.
Anyone have any experience of Jack Wolf knives? This thing is gorgeous but it looks way too flimsy to be able to do anything besides open envelopes. Besides that I think its stunning, it looks like something Roger Smith would carry with the Art Deco motif.
>>65178312>Dying on a hill requires someone willing to kill you on it.Just to be pedantic, you could get hit by a meteorite while standing on a hill and die. You could drown in a lake at the top of a hill. Not him btw, just being an ass.>>65178344I've heard positive things about the brand and I like art deco but I hate front flippers and I really don't get what they're trying to solve.
>>65178344There's a name I haven't seen in a while...
>>65178344>don't get what they're trying to solve.I think it just looks cool. And I love the front flipper on my Smock.
>>65178352That just means God killed him.
>>65178357>SmockAs in the Spyderco with the flipper on the back?
>>65178344>He saw the Neeve's Knives video
end this utility blade memeryeven an extremely poor steel you can get on a gas station knife these days will hold an edge long enough to get you through a day of receiving product for a living. a mid steel will get you through a week or more. you just sharpen it. its fine. buy some rubbing alc if tape gunk is an issue.the solution is not to throw away the blade every five minutes. utility blades are nameless chink steel blasted out by the thousand on a belt sander. you need to throw it away because the blade was trash to begin with. a guy with downs syndrome could knock an angle into a piece of scrap metal better than any of this chink bullshit. i get the point of it is that its disposable but i highly doubt you bust through sharpened edge so fast you actually need that.>t. receives product daily
>>65178422Once again, not everyone is cutting boxes. Thank you for serfmaxxing so the rest of us can get our amazon packages the next day.
>>65170714I own and use these for everything gun related. very good.https://www.amazon.com/Bondhus-12533-GorillaGrip-Fold-up-Triple/dp/B000E7VG4S?sr=8-1
>>65178344Front flippers are gay and retarded.
>>65178417Explain to me the anatomy of this, I thought if its on the front it doesn't matter if its front front or front on the back side?
>>65179202Generally speaking a front flipper will take the form of an extension on the spine of the blade. They can be small and pretty sleek so I often see them on what might be called gentleman's knives but I generally find front flippers to be worse than more traditional methods of opening knives so if I want to dress up I can stick to my Leek or my 940.
>>65179567What did he mean by this?
I like auto-retracting box cutters :)
>find a couple neat small fixed blades from Condor>find YouTube of someone testing a Condor 14c28n>53-54 hrcBruh.wat
Olfa blades and box cutters are the best. The Japs know what they're doing.
>want to change the scales on some benchodemade knives>need to buy the smaller Torx bit>on amazon wiha bits each = $10>$30 for t6/8/10>this is $25>comes with all 3 Wiha bits and driverOkay /k/ tell me what's wrong with this one.
>>65180629Looks good, I'll consider it the next time I'm buying bits. Although Ben is reddit, he is a knife guy. It's cool that they just stuck with wiha bits in their own driver, which everyone says are the best.
Got the $10 Walmart d2 knife, only issue I had with it was the action was a little choppy so I put some gun butter on it and it’s smooth as hell and cuts through anything almost as well as my kershaw, this is basically a bugout destroyer, why spend $120 on a bugout when you can spend under $30 for 3 of these? Yeah the edge isn’t as keen but I haven’t even sharpened it, just out of the box it competes with knives in the $50 range, once I sharpen it it’ll be even better
>>65180629I’m an electrician so I have a soft spot forWiha and this is as cheap as it is to sorta get you into buying Wiha, it’s absolutely worth it, kinda like how you can buy 3 rotring isographs in a set for $45 when one alone is $30
>>65181149I never knew much about this company besides finding them out on amazon. I honestly thought it was just another dropship from china but with wiha bits. Hopefully its good seeing that they're 'in the knifing community.' I do enjoy some knife youtubers though like that Nieves knives guy, he has really weird names for his knives though. Like I don't want to own a knife called the sex offender. I also like the Aussie guy and sometimes the guy who makes fun of a box of TSA seized knives. >>65181177Honestly hope its the German made bits and not the chink bits. Guess I'll find out. This should be here sometime next week. IDK how to feel about them though, $30+shipping is okay but I've also seen a bunch on ebay and aliexpress going for $15. Hopefully Flytanium has better QC than ebay or aliexpress.
Guys guys, I have a crazy idea and I was wondering if I am the only one who is annoyed by this. You know how annoying it is when your Spyderco or Benchmade knife bounces when you're closing it because you held the lock for too long? Why not build in a lock reset like in our guns? Like the moment you pull the axis lock or push down the button lock, the lock would also activate a reset which deactivates the trigger. So every time you close your blade you wouldn't need to worry about the timing to prevent the bounce.
>>65181283>>65181283
>>65181192Ben Peterson did the bladehq knife banter videos with Austin when they were better than they are now. He worked for CRKT and now founded knafs with his wife.
>>65181171Any retard can grind a cutting edge. The issue is going to be whether it'll hold up to repeated use and sharpening, and if it's actually D2 and not some chinkshit with a stamp. >>65181280Sounds like you need to adjust your timing. What you're talking about will just be more stuff to get jammed by dirt and debris.
>>65178189based french hater. i have knives from both companies, and i preffer antonini because they have better lock and FUCKING BRASS
