AK General /akg/Suppressed Volley Gun Edition>Thread #2095Old thread here >>65107987
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Would a Bulgarian parts kit with a 5.56 barrel work on this?https://tortort.com/products/copy-of-100-complete-milled-sf-5-45-5-56?variant=31470737784918
>>65158716As long as the barrel fits that receiver's 22mm journal, yes
>>65158725I was probably going to get the oversized CL option.https://ak-builder.com/index1.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=31570
>>65158736.867" is the "correct" size. It's 22mm, give or take.Considering you're building on a virgin receiver, it'll be tighter than a surplus trunnion would be, so the oversized barrels will be more of a pain. You will very likely end up having to work down your barrel journal the tiniest amount if you buy a 0.872" barrel. I'd suggest working down the barrel over boring out the receiver; besides the metallurgy and ease of the work, fucking up the barrel and having to buy a new one is also cheaper to recover from than having to buy a new receiver.Is there a reason you're wanting a milled receiver instead of a stamped one? Is it just because of the pricetag associated with riveting tools?
>>65158767I figured the gunsmiff I handed the parts off to would just turn the barrel down to the correct size on a lathe.
>>65158564Are Bosnian wartime mags really collectible items outside of the country? We have piles of them here and they're usually dumped for scrap or used as hammers because everyone is obsessed with polymer on guns, maybe we should start exporting that shit
>>65159021Depends on the mags. We get 2 rib Bosnians semi frequently, so they're not that rare.Single rib and Fluer De Lis mags are pretty scarce though, so I'm sure if you had some of those you could make a mint.>but you're a balija, so you won't
>>65159021>>65159073B'yeahhttps://legacy-collectibles.com/032322-2https://tacswap.com/post/674e5053fb7d453e5f5d7a75https://www.theoutdoorstrader.com/threads/item-gone-fs-bosnian-fleur-de-lis-ak-magazine.3322168/
Does anyone have a Tantal upper handguard?
>>65159595As long as black is ok, pretty slim pickens for Tantal hgs https://www.robertrtg.com/beryl-tantal-upper-handguard
> 6 billion firearms companies and gunsmiths > Nobody made the CIA lore accurate AK I'm disappointed
>>65159788>33mm case length, shallow mag curve (like an 8x33 mag)>stock affixed to the receiver via a cuff that goes over the receiver>no clear gas system>tube receiver>rear sight sits massively high over the receiver>that stock shapeThat's closer to a Mauser stg45 than an AK in every single way. It's so off to the point it looks more like the Soviets issued a war captured rifle to men they knew were going to be seen by westerners to keep "their" gun secret for longer.The fact they got 7.62 Tokarev wrong despite actually having it in inventory via munitions captured from Germany really gets me too.>nobody madeYou know about the stg44 debacle over the past decade and change, doing that gun from scratch would be retardation on an even higher scale.
Should I buy an SLR107CR or UR, or save up a bit more and buy a used SGL21?
>>65159964¿Por qué no los dos?
Who AK'd better: Leon or Chris (& his wolf squad)?
>>65159964SGL-21 but do it before the lead up to the '28 election.We're in a buyers market right now, not quite as low as the Trump Slump of his 1st term but lower than any point leading into the scamdemic.If you get a SGL-21 94 (which you should) you'll probably pay around 2k at the absolute minimum but that's also a BIN price. Don't pay more than 2.5.
>>65160452Used fixed stocked SGLs are like $3k. Where are you seeing these $2k NIB 21 -94s at?
>>65160452>>65160520>BIN>NIBI'm dyslexic, but my point stands.Where are these rifles at?>inb4 Files or some local trade group
>>65160520Not Fuddbroker that's for sure.>>65160524BIN in this context is "buy it now'. For marketing purposes it's the lowest price a retailer is allowed to advertise. It's why when some things are on sale they make you add them to your cart before they give the price.
>>65160567Pride month is June, faggot.
>>65160569Fuck you I’m taking the rainbow back
>>65160560>not fudbrokerOk, then where? You made the claim, substantiate it.I know what buy it now is, you condescending ass. I read it incorrectly.I'm not saying it's not possible one could find one for that low, if you scoured for months. But the way you came off, you make it seem like they're just everywhere for for no more than $2500.>I'm just not seeing itIt's a sellers market and has been probably longer than either of us has been in the game, was more my point.>there's always overpriced Azerbaijani slop
>>65159781Damn, was hoping for the plum. I want to put plum AKM furniture on my Beryl and nobody makes the Beryl/Tantal handguard adapter anymore.Speaking of my Beryl I swapped the LBE trigger group with the factory trigher parts today. I learned I hate Poland in the process.
>>65160452There's a 94 "conversion" on GB for $3900.https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1158190559
>>65159788they shouldve hired a better artist, wtfit looks like leftist political cartoon tier
>>65160754>was hoping for the plumAh it's you,; I think I tried to find one before for you. Yeah I think you're pretty much shit outta luck unless you luck into some shit.Did you put up a WTB anywhere? You're probably never going to find one in a retail shop, and this place is dead as fuck when it comes to parts hoarding vs. willingness to sell.
>>65160586Fuck you now I'm not gonna help
>>65160805I have a WTB of sorts in the /bst/ thread. I was almost tempted to buy a Century Tantal just for the handguard and sell it with a Beryl handguard.
>>65160925>unironically posting any JakHuge faggot.I'm not the one looking, so I'm sorry to that anon. Oh wait, you provided nothing to begin with while being smug about it.>As if it matters, that anon is probably poor and not buying shit anyways
>>65160936>I have a WTB of sorts in the /bst/ threadI did see that, but again parts hoarding isn't super common around here.>I was almost tempted to buy a Century Tantal just for the handguard and sell it with a Beryl handguardI wouldn't have even considered trying something that unorthodox. You could also try scraping around Euro shops to try and get lucky.Look for shops selling "Deacts"; might be a good starting point.
Is $500 kinda steep for a local picup tin of 7n6? I'm used to paying $400-425 max.
>>65160567How do you do, my fellow wop?
Anyone have a hux on their rifle? Good deal on a 762 flow TI but not sure of the best way to mount it.
Anyone had success getting a working 3-position FRT on a WASR-10? I just got my first AK the other day and have an urgent desire to get the giggle switch working. I have read that they can be finicky to get right but I have a dremel and I'm not afraid to use it
>>65164332as far as i knew no one has a reliable 3-postition FRT
>>65164360NGL FRT's sketch me out, not because of legal concerns, but because they seem like an OOB waiting to happen. That risk doesn't seem worth the cool factor especially when so many of them break after a few hundred rounds or the manufacturer gets raided and turns over their customer data.
we not gettin the Groza this month is we?
>>65164671AR FRTs seem pretty much perfected. I haven't been able to put basically any rounds on my two due to a bunch of life things going on, but that one YouTuber, Average Guy Training or whatever his name is, put 5000 rounds on his Rarebreed with no issues.
>Want to buy a rear sight pic rail mount>Attero is OOS>TWS is OOS>Even their direct mounts are OOS>Say fuck it, look into shit I need for bullseye shooting like an LPA rear sight for my Beret 92>The model with a serrated rear blade is OOS everywhereAre gun companies done making parts forever or something?
It is being reported in lereddit faggy land that the SAM5s being sold in the '250th' sale from K-var are the cursed 61 prefix guns that were comically overgassed. Really glad I didn't heed their siren call.
>>65158564I have just a KR103, want to get another AK before the ban hits in July. Should I get a 5.45? Hoping that the new ATF rules makes the ammo cheaper
>>65165431What ban in july?
>>65165451Probably Virginia I'd guess.
>>65165451>>65165456definitely fagginia
>>65165451Where have you been? Its all these people have been talking about.
>>65166022im in texas will never happen here
>>65166225Just takes one Bangladeshi guy getting into your house or senate to just fuck your shit up, pham..also doesn't help that Fairfax county runs VA. I am worried team red is pushing for a Jeet to be the Governor here in Ohio.
>>65166225>im in texas will never happen hereTexas is getting overrun with pajeets that hate White people.
>>65166225Texas has the world's largest statue of the Hindu deity Hanuman.
>>65166225it will and the courts will do nothing about it. One day it will happen.
>>65164720>grozaIs the bullpup a meme or are there genuine values to a bullpup’d AK beyond being more compact?
>>65164989im in the exact same boat as you
>>65166770>are there genuine values to a bullpup’d AK beyond being more compact?Not really, being short is about it. I'm doing it for the sake of novelty.
What is the value of a north korean type 68 barrel?My bulgarian milled kit came yesterday, it was supposed to come with a pulled bulgarian barrel. At a glance it looked right, type 3 profile, press and pin. But the pins for the sight and gas block didn't line up, they were too close together, like an akm. Anyways was looking at the akfiles and some guy said that apex or whoever imports for them mistakenly put nork barrels which were supposed to be destroyed with the bulgy kits. Anyways the dude said it was worth 3 times what he paid for the kit but $1500 seems excessive. Are any of those "Asian contract" rifles coming with barrels? I dont really want to build ANOTHER ak around that barrel even if it would make the resulting gun uber valuable. Sorry for long ramble
>>65167236bout tree fiddy
>>65167127>sake of noveltyAdd a bayonet as a joke if you can.I always found bayonets on bullpups strange as longer barreled rifles benefit more from an attached bayonet than a bullpup would.
>>65168479Because everything is better with a bayonet, even bullpups.
>>65167236>whats the value of this extremely rare but extremely niche itemZero dollars if nobody wants to buy it. You know many people looking for that specific barrel? I don't. It is pretty neat though.Rarity != value. Good luck in your endeavors
>>65168510>>65168479maybe. maybe
>>65168271I have a wooden thumbhole stock Vepr 12, but I always wanted a suppressed factory SBS with the folding skeleton stock. Too bad they’re pushing $2800 on fuddbroker now and Silencerco doesn’t really make the Salvo 12 very much anymore if ever.
>>65168749Eh. I have no real use for an SBS Vepr 12 even though I do like the look.>I have a wooden thumbhole stock Vepr 12Polymer handguards?
>>65168775Yep it has the same plastic ribbed RPK handguards. IIRC the Vepr 12 SBS is notable because it’s one of the only Russian-made AKs that was used in an official capacity by NATO (French) operators/law enforcement.
>>65168800>Yep it has the same plastic ribbed RPK handguardsHave you considered putting wood RPK handguards on it?I've never seen a thumbhole vepr with wood handguards. Anyone who's decided to do it, go all the way and put a clubfoot and pistol grip as well.You run chokes or a brake?
>>65166322>>65166352>>65166225>>65166353>>65166767Mentally ill demoralizer.
>>65165451>>65165431Vote locally to reverse it quickly.
>>65169051just being trvthful. Demoshits are going fucking go wild every single time they get the chance. 8 years of Blumpf has absolutely rotted their brains and they are now going to ban guns every single chance they get. Oh, and work tirelessly to pack SCOTUS.
>>65169051How else do you view the situation in Virginia?
bren ms2 in x39 kek or cringe?
>>65169320If you talk like a grown ass adult I may be able to get you an answer.
>>65169538stop pretending you're an out of touch hermit.
>>65169320Not an AK
>>65169320Buy more ammo, not guns
How “good” are AWB era Egyptian AKs? I want a Maadi and am looking at Intrac or Pars imports. I read things that go back and forth between “Russian spec Russian tooling just as good” and “paint falls off if you think about water and if you chamber a round all the river holes will egg out”.
>>65168514I've emailed apex, going to see if they'll swap it for a bulgarian. It's unlikely I'll find somebody to sell it to anyways so at least I'll have a barrel that'll work. If they even have any hopefully
>>65168775>>65168800Any idea where I can get these railed handguards for mine? I missed the chance to grab some a while back and regret it.
>>65169564I unironically haven't left my house except for grocery order pickups or trips to my FFL since 2020. I am a hermit. No, I am not afraid of the flu. I just learned I really enjoy not dealing with people. So yeah, talk like an adult.
AKs are a novelty now, with the current ammo prices only to get more expensive. I say this as an owner of six 7.62 AKs and two 5.56 AKs that include a Beryl. It's ogre.
>>65170203I was going to tell you Russia, but even all of them seem to be OOS.Secondary markets are about your only hope.
>>65170203This one is similar and I just got it from them earlier this week.https://ak-builder.com/index1.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=31424
>>65170228That's unfortunate.So how cheap you letting those novelty AKs go for?
>>65170408Why would I sell them? They're novelties.
>>65170415If you ain't selling, then it ain't over.
>>65170432I said it's ogre not over you retard. Your average dumb fuck who shoots at trash on the weekends adjacent from his manufactured housing aint gonna be paying the New x39 prices.
>>65170492>>65169320Please communicate properly. Your low quality posts are derailing the thread.
>>65170566>low quality posts>/akg/
>>65169538>grown ass adultWhat does that mean? Ass-adult? Did you just come in from "coontown"? We speak the King's English here, friend.
>>65170228Just picked up 1500 rounds of 7.62 for about 40cpr, skill issue
>>65170619Yeah and last year I picked up a 1260 crate of yugo m67 for $460, deals aren't everywhere and people are usually asking a minimum of .50 CPR.
>>65170613Nice try at rerolling the act you talked like a 16 year old kid. 6-7 amiright?
>>65170228I don’t get this mentality at all. You buy and shoot AKs because you don’t want to buy and shoot ARs. It’s been years since the difference in price of the actual rifle was what made people buy an AK over an AR and the price of 7.62/5.45x39 is not that much more expensive than .300 BO or anything but the cheapest 5.56 on ammoseek especially if you hunt for deals. If someone wants to shoot a lot very cheap they are better served by a PCC anyways and for pepper types a 5.56 gun that takes AR mags has always been the logical choice.
>>65170841>You buy and shoot AKs because you don’t want to buy and shoot ARs.Since when is one exclusive to the other?
>>65169151Good thing they missed their chance. Maybe in another 100 years.
>>65170841I ain't reading all of that.I just like AKs, they're cool and fun to shoot. They make me smile when I shoot them and my friends like shooting them too.Quit optimizing the fun out of things.
>>65169320>>65170492>x397.62 or 5.45? "x39" means nothing.
>>65170868They aren’t necessarily but generally if someone is saying “AK is over” it’s relative to ARs.>>65170952Well if you had read you’d realize that is exactly what I was getting at. AKs are only over for people obsessed with min-maxing the hobby all I said was that for people with that kind of mentality it should’ve been over ages ago.
>>65171199Oh my b anon I'm a little bit retarded and blind carry on
>>65171033ok well they dont make a 5.45 bren and literally who is buying 5.45 rifles these days? even if i HAD. a stockpile of 5.45 i would rather sell it and buy 7.62being pedantic is antisocial and annoying.
>>65171476>rather sell it and buy 7.627.62 NATO is more than 5.45 in price anywhere I can find it.Unless you meant a different "7.62" cartridge that AKs are chambered in :^)Pedantry is "annoying," but it is vital in making sure people know what you're talking about, which by definition makes it prosocial (benefiting others or society at large), not antisocial (averse or hostile to society at large).
Guys, I have a source for Kaiser 7.62x39 at .51 CPR, is this gud?
>>65171722>TurkshitNo
>>65171622anon you are on-purpose misunderstanding what im saying. why are you even doing this?
>>65170927demoshits are about to block nearly 9 million Americans from buying just about anything semi-automatic. Think of it that way
>>65171900To prove the point that specificity is important in communication. If you use specific terms, both genuine and pretend misunderstandings can't be had; genuine through both parties knowing clearly what is being discussed at the get-go with few avenues for confusion, pretend through you knowing if someone responded incorrectly that they're either stupid or in bad faith and should be disregarded.
Finally got to shoot my jts shotgun it seems to cycle fine with the cheap birdshot I got I was able to shoot some skeet with it. The sgm mag worked out of the box. The drum mag fits but I didn't realize it only takes 2 3/4 shells the ones I bought were 3 so I didn't get to check it. The CSSPECS metal mags do not fit the metal tabs I circled make it where you can't insert it far enough for it to latch ill need to figure something out with that.I also got my SBS stamp after 24 days im probably going to wait a little bit before doing anything and hopefully the engraving requirements will go away. Im still waiting on my Draco SBR stamp the beginning of June will be 60 days
>>65171476look at this fag who missed the boat. post your american made aks lmao
I bought a 30 round magazine online and its wobbly side to side, anyone knows what I can do to stop that? My other magazine sits fine in the gun.
>>65173363If it feeds fine then there's no problem.
>>65172791>metal tabs I circled make it where you can't insert it far enough for it to latchSame fix as on metal HK mags, file down the tops of the tabs (in line with the angle it'd be in if it were seated properly), cut them off entirely (not recommended) or filing/shimming the mag catches to change the seat angle until it latches (not recommended)I'd try to insert it into the gun, see where exactly it's held up, and start filing on that face (the top of the rear tabs most likely, then the front ones), and slowly work until it seats. If you want to be sure, take out the BCG when you do this to remove another variable from the mag seating question (like you'd do with HK mags).Or just sell it off for what you paid for it minus 5-10 dollars.>>65173363Some AK mags are wobbly, some aren't. It means your magwell is either slightly oversized or that specific magazine is slightly undersized. Manufacturing tolerance, etc.If the mags feed, it's fine.
>>65173106if you have a huge stash of preban 5.45 and didnt sell it during covid you are a fucking idiot. i dont care how much of an AK fan you are.you will now deflect by calling me a jew.
>>65173106>y-you don't need chrome lining!!
>>65164671>because they seem like an OOB waiting to happenhow do you think FRT's work?It's pretty much impossible to fire out of battery
Early reviews are in for Meridian’s AK101s and…It’s not looking great. Not PSA bad, but definitely not great for a 2k rifle. Biggest issues reported so far: >Accuracy issues: Meridian claims they have identified the issue as a bad batch of chrome lining on some of the barrels, is alleged working to fix said guns under warranty,>Some users report exploding primers (similar to PSA’s First Gen AK-74s) on certain 5.56 ammo causing the firing pin channel to get filled with exploded primer debris, essentially locking the firing pin up and requiring it to either be disassembled and clean or sent back to the factory for repair. This problem is currently under investigation by Meridian and has no know fix as of yet. Other than that, everything else on these guns looks pretty good so far, comp comparing photographs of high round count wear (in the several thousands of rounds) wear on the bolts, carriers and trunnions looks comparable to Bulgarian and Chinese made guns of similar round count. I really don’t want this to come off as hating on the new guy or anything like that, if anything I’m really rooting for them. This is what the AK market in America needs desperately. I think if Meridian can fix those two issues (supposedly one already is fixed) and get the price on those guns to lower too about the $1500 range I think they could easily be on their way to being the new GOAT of the AK world we’ve wanted for so long.
>>65175273tl;dr
>>65160409Chris, without a doubt. I would take that pimped out draco along with the 8ft tall big titty goth vampire bitch in the red dress.
>>65175743*white
>>65175273Meridian gang
I picked up some 7.62x39 from a friendly based boomer, sold me 400 brass cased American eagle/S&B and 100 barnaul FMJ for $200.
handled a chinese ak a few days ago, and holy shit the low angle type 3 stock which i thought would be awkward feels more comfortable than a normal AKM stock to me
Why are people so autistic about saigas? people on forums and redditards are so snarky "nice half conversion" if you keep the fixed stock or use a clamp on handguard retainer. sorry im not welding up holes and buying 500 dollars worth of barrel components to spruce up my russian wasr
>>65158564was going to get a 5.56 ak but I went with the SG instead
>>65164360Anyone tried the one sold on tacswap/akfiles?
>>65175273Surely my Recreator AK-19 wont be a turd. Can't wait to find out in 10 years.
>>65178147don't worry you can attempt sell it for 8k on tacswap/gunbroker like all the other retards who regret it
>>65177755Nice. How much did you pay?
>>65173951missed the boat lmao
>>651784834200, guy was selling off stuff before the AWB hits
>>65175273>2000 fuckin dollars for the same issues PSAK 101s have
>>65158564What sight adjustment tool should I get for my beryl? I used a pot metal chinesium one from eBay, and it's bent and mushroomed so much now that it doesn't even work. Is the Magna-matic the highest quality tool readily available in America?
>>65180544How often are you losing zero that you need to adjust it so often that you break tools? Seems like a bigger issue than crappy chink tools.But yes the magna magic is "the best", whatever that means. If the regular MM seems too fragile for your hulk handed ass, there's a more expensive slightly beefier version.
>>65175273>Early reviews are in for MeridianWhere are you getting this from?
>>65180617https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7YQZyIYC1Ihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi08t_AWue0
>>65180607Some retarded boomer RO took my ak and beat on it with a mallet LOLSub optimal usecase.
>>65180628did blue jean operators channel get nuked or something
>>65180652Yes.
>>65180628Thanks, the only thing I had seen was praise from files boomers. What is up with 556 AKs and dog shit accuracy? Remember the 556 WBP? Glad I have stayed away from ALL American made AKs.
>>65180628I would treat anything Blue Jean Operator says with a massive grain of salt because of how he speaks highly about guns that are known to be objectively awful (PSAKs, especially the 5.56 and 300blk ones).I'm not saying to entirely disregard the review issues and whatnot, just pointing out that he's not the best reviewer of AKs. I'm not personally aware of any affiliations he may have for financial incentives either, so that may be an argument to be made in this vein as well.>>65181264>What is up with 556 AKs and dog shit accuracy?Cheaping out on barrels and qc, that's it. WBP is sticking to the "older rifles had bad crowns but new ones are fine" line.Fwiw, M90s don't seem to have any problems in terms of accuracy. If you MUST have a 5.56 AK (and don't care about Yugo autism), I'd go that path. It's also an import so you know it won't grenade on you when you sneeze near it.
>>65181300>Fwiw, M90s don't seem to have any problems in terms of accuracy. If you MUST have a 5.56 AK (and don't care about Yugo autism), I'd go that path. It's also an import so you know it won't grenade on you when you sneeze near it.Agreed, love mine. I've got an M90, 2 Beryls, a mini Beryl and my SAM5 is waiting at my FFL. American made AKs are for literal retards.
>>65181264>>65181337Nothing wrong with wanting an american made 556 AK to be good, but I definitely am glad I went with a SAM5 on sale instead of rolling the dice on these new MDC ones.
Personally don't like AR stocks on AKsWhat do you guys think of this tuning?
>>65181264Thought WBP had a good rep in general
>>65181599Their 7.62x39 guns are great but their 5.56 and 5.45 are retarded
>>65181599nah wbp slaps
>>65181599I heard that the accuracy issues were only on the early production guns and they’ve fixed them now
>>65182037>cast trunnions>billet bolts
>>65182214WBP uses forged trunnions. Pioneer Arms uses cast
>there are people actually bidding on link>demo model wasr>shit camo paint, loose gas tube, and sling loop cut off>https://atlanticfirearms.com/century-wasr-10-ak-47-demo-rifle-auctionThe bids have to be fake, right??
>>65182301people are dumb, when the spanish z70 kits were coming in scalpers would resell them on GB for ridiculous prices and people would buy themI just picked up two from apex exactly like these for $140 ea. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1163175997
>>65182327>https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1163175997yeah thats pretty absurd too. We really do live in clown world.
>>65182229>Pioneer Arms uses castHey grandpa, its been a long time since the IO guns have been around. Pioneers recent AKs used a forged trunnion.
hardwood > laminate
>>65182471Rob Ski's Pioqueer lost headspace in under 500 rounds. Unforgivable, incomprehensible, revolting. Will never ever trust anything called Pioqueer ever.
>>65182327>when the spanish z70 kits were coming in scalpers would resell them on GB for ridiculous prices and people would buy themI don't get the hype around these kits, is there something I'm missing.
>>65183131>cheap parts kit$120 for a parts kit is insane, STEN kits were $200 a decade ago and are far higher now.>incredibly simple buildYou can fabricate a receiver out of 1.5" ID tubing from McMaster. If you really want to you could even weld the new piece to the stub on the kit, most of them are saw-cut. Tube SMGs are a great "first welding experience" for people looking to get into kit building.>incredibly simple function so hard to fuck up>incredibly simple function so easy to retrofit one of the pre-existing semi conversions to itOne of the other tube SMG semi conversions should be nearly drop-in on the Z70 (save for particulars like bolt dimensions or the trigger itself), it's not an overly complex design so it's not a huge ask to convert.However, there's also a bunch of Beretta M38 kits for $200 with original barrels that just came in, so personally I'll be after those instead of a Z70 kit.
>>65183108Link pls
>>65183238i actually think he removed those videos but the real niggas remember it. From like 6 or 7 years ago.
>>65183447>From like 6 or 7 years agoYou realize Pioneer launched forged trunnion rifles a couple years ago, right?
>>65183469so what? Those people sold dangerous tin metal props and called them firearms. Not to mention they seem to still have the same issues as PSAs anyway (broken firing pins. Not worth.
>>65183483>sold dangerous tin metal propsHowever dangerous they may be, I've never seen evidence of catastrophic failure resulting in personal injury. Pioneer AKs were never great but for casual shooting they were a great value. I put over 1000 rounds through a 5.56 underfolder and have a few spare firing pins just in case.
>>65183528>bought a bomb, because too cheap>I've not been maimed yet, so it's fineDo you drive a Pinto too?
>>65183688>PintoHow fuckin old are you
>>65183528look at this nigga bragging about his grenade
>>65183688>>65183734Please post proofs of your claims>you can't
I got my RAK74 I’m excited to shoot it, any 5.45 recommendations?
>>65183702Old as fuck.But you knew what I was talking about, didn't ya?
>>65183528>lost headspace after less than 16 mags>not dangerous
>>65183819>buys a Riley>wants recommendationsI'd recommend you get a real 74, nigger.All we need now is some PSA cope and we'll have a trifecta of retards.
>>65183915Talking about a different gun here friendo, not IO trash, try to keep up.
Groza kits shipped allegedly. Will effort post when mine gets here>>65182607Laminate is stronger though
>>65184045Oh hey another S&T homie I got my notification too and can't wait
>>65184045Neat. What's your donor gun?>pls don't say PSAIt's a PSA, isn't it.
>>65184050indeed>>65184107>It's a PSA, isn't it.Partially. Its a 7.62x39 Romanian WUM-1 kit that I installed a PSA hinge block and front sight onto.
>>65184127Not bad.Looking forward to seeing this.
>>65183927What should I have bought instead?
Is the malyuk the APEX AK?
>>65184236It’s in 5.45 and a bullpup, so it can’t be, sorry.
>>65184155Molot VEPR or parts kit
>>65184155I don't know, man but shit. You guys jump head first like a pajeet into a 3 ft pool and then want advice about what AK you should've bought to begin with. So fuck it, find a few spam cans of 7n6 or get whatever Azerbaijani shit you can afford. Slim pickens out there.>>65184318This nigga bought a Riley and you think he's got Molot money? Parts kit might be doable, but even getting into 74s currently is a black hole money pit.
From my experience and from some more recent reviews, pioneer seems to be okay. Not great, but okay.Nothing will ever excuse them slapping the bame of the City of Radom onto their brand, as if they have anything to do with FB Radom, but as far as the actual rifles go, they're nothing to write home about, but they're okay.Front trunnion is indeed forged. Rivet is visible on the bullet guide, and there's no sign of it being billet machined like bear creek or Century VSKAs.But there's a reason they're less than a grand. Casting can be seen in the rear trunnion, recoil spring guide, front sight block, and most egregiously, the bolt carrier. Bolt itself looks good, at least. Most likely forged. No casting marks. As to how that difference in metellurgy will play with the cam surface on the bolt carrier is anyone's guess. All those other parts being cast doesn't concern me much, but I will admit that may be due to ignorance on my part as I have no idea how much stress one would need to apply on those parts to induce failure or how close the rifle comes to that point during regular firing. The bolt carrier is my only concern on this rifle, so I may slap in a WBP carrier in its place and call it a day. One interesting thing to note is that the carrier, while cast, appears to be heat-treated on its contact areas, which one never sees on any cast gun parts. God only knows if it actually strengthens it enough to be worth keeping.Firing pin looks fine. From what I understand, only their 5.56 AKs had firing pin problems, exacerbated by them having a proprietary design. Klayco47 tested a newer one some time ago (he tested an older one further back that exhibited the infamous breakage problems) with a 1000 round burn down, and it seemed to pass muster. This one is only at 500 rounds, but the firing pin looks fine.It shoots okay. Shoot one slant brake AKM, you've shot 'em all. Recoil impulse isn't any harsher than expected and it doesn't fart in your face with overgas.
>>65184020both seem to be called "Pioneer" so, i don't trust your trash
>>65184361>>65184318Parts kit or Molotov vepr for a 74 that I’m gonna shoot like 4 times a year. I got the 74 Riley cause I got a cash deal otd and all other entry level 74’s are jank.
>>65184866>all other entry level 74's are jankYou can buy an old Romanian import (SAR-2, ROMAK-2, etc) for not that much more than the Riley you bought.You'd just have to have looked around a bit and been willing to wait to find a deal on an auction online. If you're only "gonna shoot like for 4 times a year," you could have afforded to wait to save the headache and injury of a catastrophic failure, the likelihood of which is far higher with a Riley than an import 74.
>>65184999>gonna shoot like for 4 times a year>catastrophic failure>catastrophic failure
>>65184407>tl;dr anon missed the boat and had to cope with pioneer
>>65184999Are SAR2 plagued with same SAR 3 problems and an import 74, can you show me where I can buy one?
I make good money, I just got what’s at my LGS it’s hard to get stuff here unless it’s featureless so does anyone know where I can buy AK’s other than Atlantic firerarms that ship featureless rifles my LGS does not have an AW license.
>>65185058Every time you pull the trigger on any gun, you roll a die on how it works; the odds are never zero for a catastrophic failure. If you buy a lower quality gun, that gun's metaphorical die has less sides than a better quality gun's, so it has a higher likelihood for a catastrophic failure.Bob Sled had guns eat shit and die in sub 1000 rounds; one capable of that wouldn't last much longer in terms of round count on a slower shooting schedule. I'd rather spend a bit more and get more longevity.>>65185127The SAR-2 has less issues than the SAR-3, mostly because the AIMS 74 was an actual military design and uses normal 74 mags. The guns are fine IME.>show me where I can buy oneCheck gun auction sites. Gunbroker is the easiest and largest, so will have the most chances of one popping up.Or local pawnshops/gun stores that deal in used guns if you live in a not-ghetto. I've gotten good shit at stupid prices (a $400 NIB Saiga in 2025) at hole-in-the-wall shops in my area.
>>65185536>If you buy a lower quality gun, that gun's metaphorical die has less sides than a better quality gun's, so it has a higher likelihood for a catastrophic failureHi-points are exploding left and right! Shut the fuck up anon and stop talking out of your ass
>>65185568This is a bad-faith false equivalence and you know it is.An apt comparison would have been to ring of fire pistols like Brycos or Jennings, not to Hi-Points, but that comparison would have proved my point on there being a bare minimum price to pay for a safe and reliable firearm instead, which Riley guns do not currrently meet (due to being below that safety threshold).You will not get another reply from me. Eat shit.
>>65184407Do pironeers use a goofy bolt carrier in terms of dimensions? Swapping the carrier out would be wise if it is normal.
>>65185124I'd be coping if I were insisting it's s good gun. I do not.I bought it anticipating it becoming a bit of a project gun.>>65185764No, everything looks to be normal AKM spec. Only thing off is the lack of an auto tab, which a WBP carrier can fix up real easy.
>>65185604>due to being below that safety thresholdThis is purely anecdotal and you know it, shitass
just got my free (used) bulgarian type 3 barrel, lmao the gas port is yuge measures about .180ishshould i worry or nah
I spotted one of those laser module things in this video that were being talked about a few threads ago and only would have known that because of you guys.https://youtu.be/DzdiJGSs3HU?si=xHpFycAt6aKqfizd&t=5292
>>65185937You're fine. The early milled AKs typically had bigger ports around 0.17-ish. AKMs have smaller ports around 0.13 to 0.14 but I've forum posts about 2000's era Saiga rifles having 0.180 size ports.
>>65186020Cool. I love all of the new ITN footage that's getting released. You should check out the Yugoslav and Romanian revolution stuff.
zpap 92 with a cnc warrior brace, banish suppressor, and an lpvo; decent first ak setup? I love the little bastard with the krink irons
>>65186131>lpvoPick literally any other option for an optic and you'll enjoy it more
>>65186131use a Trijicon SRO (it looks cool)
>>65186131I like my CNC warrior brace, but I don't think the LPVO makes any sense though. The Zpap 92 doesn't have a side rail, so you're forced to mount it on the dust cover. Most scope rings/cantilevers are longer than the 7 slots included on the dust cover rail. Even if you found a mount that worked, the "krink" dust covers actually wobble a bit side to side so I don't think it's worth it to mount a big ass heavy scope on there. That's why you see most people choosing to use micro dots in that position. All of the slop negates most of the magnification benefit Can't comment on the suppressor brand because I don't have one.
>>65186145>>65186158>>65186159Thanks guys
>>65186076I will later, didn't realize when I started watching the one I posted it was so long lmao.
>>65186145>>65186158>>65186166iron sights are better
Should I get a straight receiver MAK90 or a Sam7 for the same price? I kind of want to get the MAK and make a spiker.
>>65186445Does the Mak have the correct GB for a spiker? Do you have the extra $500-$700 to actually get it accomplished, on top of the base price?
>>65186445personally i'd much rather have a spike no matter the cost
>>65186477The couple I’ve looked at have the bottom gas block. The money isn’t an issue. Is the gas block going to be the biggest issue with a conversion? The front sight, bayonet, and furniture seem easy enough to get.
>>65185536Okay cause I need the rifle to be shipped featureless so buying off of gunbroker can be tricky if the seller is willing to put a fin grip on it.
>>65186445Sam7youll have to pay much more to make it a spiker, and youll still have a crummy fit and finish chink shitrod
is it true that a 4 piece flash hider greatly increases like back pressure? I have a sam5 that is throwing fireballs with a 74 style brake and want to try and tame it, but worried about it already being overgassed.
>>65186656Just take the brake off.
I crave plum. But I don't want to pay plum prices. Is painting mags and furniture up with plum paint lame? If it is stop reading here and just call me a fag, I saved you time. This dude in this vid used Tamiya TS-11, but said it wore off quick. But I don't see why giving it a clear coat wouldn't take care of that issue. He showed a second method that required a shit ton more steps and honestly didn't look as good as his first.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN_SP_WgXE0
>>65186670Plum4u
>>65186656instead of running bare threads put a 3 or 4 prong flash hider on it. No extra back pressure, protects your threads, and kills flash
>>65186670my dream gun is a '84-'85 transitional when they were switching over from wood to plumfactory mixed furniture is peak soul for any gun
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>>65186670those mags actually look pretty good, see if it actually wears off like he says and if it does just paint again and then clear or satin coat it
>>65186670couple years ago i bought the bullet and paid $40 each (outrageous xd) for a couple of NOS tula plums , lol i wish i bought 12 now that theyre like over $100
>>65186686>>65186688I used to not get it regarding plum, but now I do.
>>65186699thats a big optic
Should i convert my saiga to an ak74 or 74mI'm leaning towards the old school 74, so I can leave the fixed trunnion, I also already have an izzy laminate set on my wasr i could use
>>65186677>AKS-74 no lesshnnnng>>65186686I love the weird quirks like that.>>65186689I'd wanna make several mags and making it take as few steps would lessen the chance of me fucking up. Also I think they look cooler with wear.>>65186699pic related
>>65186712old school 74 looks better
interesting thing i saw on one of those sketchy russian sites, ak74 fsb without the 24mm threadsi have a distinct image in my mind of an ak74 with a oddly long barrel that had this sight and a rpk74 style brake but i havent been able to find the image
>>65186716the only downside i can think of to making those magazines is that the 4 rustoleum colors you need to buy are just as expensive as just buying a real plum mag for the going rate of $80 on the files
>>65186730I hate remembering photos like that.I saw a pic of some African dude holding what looked like a partially converted saiga, sporter forend but with AK-100 stock, but I can't find the image on my drive
>>65186703(You)(You)(You)(You)
>>65186735I was going to buy the Tamiya TS-11 and a clearcoat. Plus was going to do multiple mags. Although the only mags that look correct are PSA mags, but those things are $25. Also not so crazy about giving them money.
>>65185937looking at the soviet technical drawing, spec is 4.5mm +-0.1mm. imperial, .173 to .181. so you should be good i guess
>>65186712Does it have a bump rivet or not?
>>65186796it does, and yeah i know it wouldnt be KORRECT for an older ak74
>>65186748im always searching for the image of a Investment Casting tree of like 10 AK sight blocks on a single mold. it was forever ago, maybe posted by the russian Stal/k/er who worked at one of the major factories and posted a bunch of images.
>>65186670>Is painting mags and furniture up with plum paint lame?Nah. Never tried plum, but I used Tamiya PS-44 on this bake.Might want to try a lighter mag (instead of black) and Tamiya PS-45 (Translucent Purple)? Let the colors work with each other instead of just layering paint.>I actually don't know how "purple" that translucent purple is though, so it might end up barney plum instead.Or maybe even layer the PS-45 on top of the TS-11? Just spitballing.GL and post results.
>>65186805>im always searching for the image of a Investment Casting tree of like 10 AK sight blocks on a single mold.This one?
>>65186835yes this exactly.
>>65186799Do a 74M, that would be way cooler. If you ever want to make it look older you can get a second set of furniture.
>>65186730>those sketchy russian sitesLink?>apparently, those were used on Izzy AK74 rifles from 1986 to 1990
>>65186988Russiansurplus, I think its the successor to rusweapons, I ordered a stock set from them in about 2020 and it took a literal year to arrive
>>65187201Lel, that's hardly a sketchy russian website. Dude's from Pennsylvania.But I appreciate the answer anyway.>was kinda hoping for something like the old popgun.ru (which I think became guns.ru, but it's nowhere near as wild west as it was)
>>65187259>Pennsylvania U sure? I swear the guys site got taken down because he was having bolts stolen from izhmash, lol. Maybe they've got a secret factory in Lancaster kek
Does anyone have that /k/ino pic of a krinkov with an orange 20 round magazine on someone's deck, freshly rained on?
Posting project AK
>>65186830>Might want to try a lighter magYou thinking like a sand/fde colored mag?
>>65187839black sharpie rifle
>>65188056>he doesn’t know the black sharpie trickNGMI
>>65187318Yeah, I'm sure. Alex has had Russiansurplus.net going for more than a decade. Never dealt with rusweapons, but it sounds like basically what happened to russtock. Dealing in questionably sourced shit, got caught up by FSB and disappeared. The Grey market is a lot more treacherous for Russians, it seems.
>>65187935Not necessarily that light (sand), but maybe the plum or brown, or even the OD green. If the translucent purple is bright on its own, laying it over something to mute it might get you to an acceptable shade of plum.
>>65188432Sadly GM only has brown, tan, and ODG for their 5.56 30 rounders. Weirdly they have all of the colors in stock for 45 round mags.
>>65188419>more treacherous for RussiansYou are correct, they are far more strict than the US when it comes to punishing individuals who send parts overseas (not that we do but I'm sure it happens). There's even a case that happened a couple of months ago that hit the news here:https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2026/02/17/us-citizen-sentenced-to-4-years-in-russian-prison-for-attempted-firearms-smuggling-a91981
>>65188646I should mention the parts were some Zenitco parts and an unspecified buttstock.
>>65188655I have a set of zenitshart but I lost the box it was in during my recent move. I think it's crammed somewhere in my storage unit.
>>65188702Better get to looking, it might be a goldmine if you find it.
>>65160567Is that a Damage Industries flash hider?
>>65188646I remember posting about that in February lel. Hard business trying to get cool shit outta Russia these days, lest you end up in Penal Colony No. 6.
>>65182333Swear to God we're already in a boomer dead-man switch economy burning itself out slowly like a forrest fire. 80% of the population is cash broke
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>>65188801the AR mag adapters look like they are very practical and an actual improvement but it just kills all the soul of the AKthe clunky reload and completely visible mag is a part of what makes an AK an AK to me
>>65188347>he doesn't know the mustard trickNGMI
>>65181366Man that stock is so ugly, ever thought making into a sidefolder?
>>65188347>>65188850>they don't know about the cum trick
>>65188889I dont think it's that bad, but I have considered getting it chopped to 12.5 and maybe converting to a sidefolder, idk how hard that is with milled
>>65189719This would be cooler if it was higher res.
>>65189769It's from a PDF that didnt have great resolution. >I don't think this one is any better, eitherSorry
AoA has 50 Beryls for pre-order...at the low low price of $2000.
>>65189981At least this confirms they're just being scalper jews with them and intentionally making low number orders from FB to jack pricesHowever, used ones are somehow going for HIGHER than that, so it's technically a good price.
>>65189981lmao they're trying to cash in on Virginians who don't have one yet. Good thing i already got mine.
>>65189986>>65190000I wouldn't buy it on principal if I lived in VA.
>>65190034yeah but like idk bro what if you really wanted it lol
God I hate the market right now. All types of shit I'm finally ready to buy is out of stock cus some funkopops addled boomers needs to have 200 Plum mags each. Lots of AKs oos, Zastava fucking up, WBP fucking up
>>65189769>>65189798here you go friendoshttps://yadi.sk/d/IKpZo6MxscS54
>>65182214>look, mom, I posted the meme again!
>>65186748looks like some domestic market russian .410s were set up like that, picrel
>>65191204>First time? Are you looking for the items in your excellent meme or is that just a generalization?What can I help you find, specifically.The rub is you don't get to cry if it costs more, because then I'm just gonna shit on you and call you poor, nigger.
Should I? I don't have an RPK
>>65191859At this point i would just ask if youre going to also get an FRT for it
>>65193238Soviet armorer's jigs?Looks like something for straightening out mags and dust cover on the leftId love to have that set
>>65193626actually american, and it can be yours for the low low price of $11,000 kekhttps://products.mckay-ent.com/mckay-parts/mckay-parts-5680/complete-ak-armorers-tool-kit-3401704
can you still buy the romanian imports in as-imported form? like single stack, all romanian parts & furniture? i remember years ago you could at somewhat of a discount but i decided it wasnt worth the effort milling out the magwell and bought a wasr
>>65193682You might be able to find one that's still kicking from back then used/safequeen, but otherwise I don't think soI recall seeing one when I looked at 5.45 rifles on GB a few days ago to see prices on SAR-2s, but it appears to be goneI also recall you could buy a WBP Fox in that configuration at a reduced cost when those were the new thing on the market (like 2018ish?), AoA had them and still have the import "thumbhole" stocks for sale, they're $3.
>>65193640fuckin why
>>65193640>American made>11k dollars Literally what the fuck? If it's not original than who gives a fuck? Anybody who has any business using armorer's tools can just make it themselves for a few hundred dollars
>>65194119
why cant anybody but the commies make laminate without fruity faggot colors or greyliterally just fucking want a plain stock dammit
>>65194258Boyd's nutmeg is an option I guessIt's rather aggressive layering, but it's not bright colors or gray
>>65194270i wonder if i could subdue the colors with bleach or something
Title: NEED ADVICE: Is this newfangled scope mount too high? (Pics attached)User: OldSarge_1955Status: Senior MemberPosts: 4,217Location: Ocala, FLMorning fellas,Hope the wife and kids are doing well. Quick question for the brain trust here... The eldest boy convinced me to buy one of thAK-47 rifles for guarding the homestead. ... Decided to treat myself and picked up a red dot scope at the gun show last weekend from a nice young man. He sold me this high-rise mount to go with it. Said it was the latest and greatest....Well, when I shoulder the rifle, my chin isn't even touching the stock. I feel like a giraffe trying to peer through a poophole,,, My neck is aching after just five minutes in the backyard. . ..Back in my day, we kept our cheeks welded to the wood stock. If I wanted to look this high up, I would have put a god dang carry handle on it!The millennials on the internet keep babbling about "lower third cowitness" and "height over bore." Frankly, it sounds like Chinese algebra to me.... Is this mount actually too high, or are my 71-year-old eyes just playing tricks on me? I don't want to miss a prowler because my sight is sitting up in the stratosphere.God Bless,ArthurUSMC Veteran (73-77)"No arsenal is complete without a solid wheel gun."
>>65194323>high-rise mountShould've gone with the low rise one. Better luck next time, Art. Make sure you get your whole head in front of the shotgun, thanks for calling.
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>>65194323Why don't more people use the attero arms mount? You can mount almost anything extremely rigidly, and it's also very lightweight. Only downside is removing your rear sight leaf, but it comes with a notch, so you still have irons if your optic fails.>pic related.
>>65194563Not them, but everytime I have looked at their site in the last year they have been OOS on their pic rail option.
>>65194581You should email Attero and find out if/when he's doing another run of the rail mounts. Seems like the red dot one's are in stock, why not use one of those?If you're going to mount a larger optic than a TR2 why bother with the rear sight change?No side rail?Just seems like a solution that problem that doesn't really exist, otherwise.>tl;dr if you want it, bully the machinist into making it
>>65194873I want the 1913 option because I am unsure what the future holds for what dot I may run and don't want to be married to one option. I own a Burris FF3 that I got for a gift a year or two ago, but I may end up replacing it. Also yeah, I own a Beryl so no side rail.>Why not use tue Beryl mountI think all of the FB upgrade parts are ugly. I think it is why I avoided getting a Beryl for so long.
i just thought about it, how do the current AK FRTs run in a Zastava M77?
>>65194988The Beryl folding stock is absolutely a joke, makes the TAPCO stuff look light years ahead of its time.
>>65195413Don't care, looks cool as fuck and thats literally the most important part.
What's the stupidest experience you guy have had IRL on the topic of AKs. I got called a commie by a very old shooter at a local range.
>>65196210I've had the same, but it's young lefties with LARP gear and rainbow flag patches assuming I'm a "fellow comrade" because I have an AK and other slavshitThere is no tard filter that works other than private property to shoot on.
Is there anyway to make surplus sling not smell like cat piss and raw asscrack?
>>65196235That's a feature not a bug.
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