People say that they are unrealistic and will never happen IRL, but since Unitree Robotics is actually mass-producing a civilian manned bipedal mech, it might only be a question of time when a military version of this is used - or some Ukrainian units modifying one for their own use, just like they do with Unitree's dog-robots.What purpose, outside of logistics (think Aliens Power Work Loader), could this thing even fulfill on the battlefield?
They will remain un-used as long as they continue to look that fucking stupid.
>posted it again award
>>65160518the gorilla walk seems useful for carrying big artillery guns on the back to climb mountains, but why would it needed to be manend? just use it like those scammy american pajeet controlled robots lmao.
>>65160518>U*raineYou mean, China will first sell that to Russia, their ally.
>>65160518this so retarded on so many levels that my mind can't comprehend it
>>65160620>no cope cage on top0/10, completely inaccurate
>>65160518https://interestingengineering.com/ai-robotics/video-unitree-launches-the-worlds-first-production-ready-manned-mecha-robot>According to the Hangzhou-based firm, it weighs 1102 pounds (500 kilograms) with a pilot on board and has a starting price of 3.9 million yuan (US$573,674).give it a bit more time and iterations, I'm sure this can be made even cheaper and with bigger payload.If I had half a mil, I'd buy one and plaster it with SAPI plates.
>>65160518>Slower than an infantryman>Weaker than an infantryman>Bigger target than an infantryman>Requires powerWhy would anyone want this?
>>65160645Adding onto this >>65160646>Costs 5 times as much as an infantryman
>>65160518cant wait
How come China makes all the cool robot shit these days and not Japan?
>>65160669one country has a massive amount of factory available + shit load of mines in africa.the other country has an economy going down in flame and import jeets and niggers to fill in the gap.
>>65160669Japan nowadays is ruled by geriatrics who are even worse than boomers. They just enjoy stomping down and defunding every young engineer who has a cool idea simply for disrespecting their seniority.Being traditionally risk averse and cucked out of their moment in the sun by the Plaza Accords caused lasting damage to the Japanese entrepreneurial spirit. Hell, they are even losing in gaming and anime these days - with some exeptions of course.
>>65160657>hit leg can't walk>hit top don't seebut let's assume it is better than normal infantry do you know what this cant do? It has the same disadvantage as tanks it cannot climb stairs. Russians feel it like second time now
>>65160687Legs are always a weakness, but if the power can be increased, I see no problem mounting larger ballistic shields on the shins like the Tieren mechs from Gundam 00, which provide it with some degree of mobile cover when it kneels down.In the end, infantry, mechs and tanks both will fight while using cover and terrain features that cover up its vulnerable parts.
>>65160518>Guy goes to get into the cockpit.>Struggles in until he can actually get in a semi-decent position, and pretend 'yeah, that's good enough'.>Next shot has a visibly different sized, lighter weight dummy in the cockpit.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if2TpU37suo
>>65160711this of course raises the question of why even have a pilot seat in the first place?If you are able to build a giant robot, why not just build an actual giant robot that does roundhouse kicks against enemy tanks and stuff.
Chinese shills are working full shifts tonight.
>>65160538>why would it needed to be manend? Present AI sucks at steering the humanoid form.
>>65161094Cause the humanoid form sucks for robots in general, there's no advantage to using it.
>>65160721Well if you're not going to bother with a person inside it, there's not an enormous amount of reason to keep it human-shaped, outside of maybe room-clearing operations for human ergonomics, or deceiving the enemy.At that stage, you just have a drone. So as soulless as it is, it'd be better to cut down on the cost of limbs and balance systems and just have a flying Frisbee with a bunch of guns and explosives on it.When you think about it though, it's remarkable how close we are to early scifi's idea of military combat.
I still prefer the Kuratas designhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iZ0WuNvHr8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbXclSBnxi8Just imagine one of these with the dumbass safety speed caps removed, and a more complicated suspension system.
>>65161191Correct. Our human bipedal stance is a freak of evolution and uncommon in the animal world for a reason. It is inefficient, unstable and require lots of brainpower to keep balance. Merely standing still requires energy and brain processing. That's why drunks or tired people stumble down. This is the price we pay to free up our front limbs as hands and to give us a height advantage to see further than animals our size. Robots have none of these evolutionary baggage and should be designed to be as efficient as possible. Meaning either tracked or flying robots/drones like you said.
>>65160620>>65160641It has infantry protection. No cope cage needed.
>>65160620I don't think HIV-ridden, eternally drunk/drugged mobiks would make for good mech pilots, zister
>>65161386Actually a bipedal stance is more energy efficient, all things considered, than quadrupedalism.Humans did not evolve for tool use. We evolved for caloric efficiency.
>>65161686>bipedal stance is more energy efficientCitation needed.
>>65161692No, he's right. But using hands better is obviously the main "objective" of humanoids being bipedal and moving efficiently is just a side effect.
>>65160711It also doesn't show the mech carrying a significant load, like it should if it's a logi exo of some sort.
>stacked cinder blocks wothout any mortar>hit right on top of itVery impressive
>>65160518call me when irl mechs look like this then we'll talk
>>65162239how the fuck have none of the games except the first one been translated yetI want my hardcore mecha strategies with cute girls
>>65160645>>65160651The titanium bathtub of the A-10 only weighs 540kg, so that mech with this type of armor, would just be around 1 ton. How much would a comparable APC and IFV weight with similar armor protection?
>>65160518Can't wait!
>>65162253I feel you. I finally sat down and started learning jap not too long ago so I could finally play all the power dolls and medarot games.
>>65162295>medarotMy long lost brother!
>>65162278The near term solution of just armoring the crew capsule and giving it some arm mounted weapon already makes most sense.
>>65162278>>65162419A 14.5mm machinegun should be the bare minimum weapon for those mechs, 23mm and 30mm should be the standard.
>>65162278>>65162419Reminds me of the Rk-92
>>65162276>The titanium bathtub of the A-10 only weighs 540kgWhich this mech cannot carry, and even if it somehow does, it'll be even slower than before.
Ukraine and Rusia would probably use it in a gaynigger way of just filling it up with explosives and running it into an enemy held high-rise or something.
>>65162276>>65162561Titanium is obsolete, nowadays It's all composite armor which is even lighter. The A-10 has it because It was designed back in the 70's
>>65160518Vely impleassive. Vely ching khu lung
>>65162575Doesn't really matter. A humvee can do everything your mech can but better.
>>65162527>A 14.5mm machinegun should be the bare minimum weapon for those mechs, 23mm and 30mm should be the standard.An idiot uses 14.5 x114, a wise man uses 23x115 with APDS and HE dual feed.
>>65160518>or some Ukrainian units modifying one for their own useIt's so weird seeing the fiction that Ukraine is some military superpower and not just proof that America's hand-me-downs can btfo anyone else.
>>65162583Can a Humvee be used as a forklift, or an excavator?
>>65161651That's why Ukraine won't have them either.
>>65162590>Can a Humvee be used as a forklift, or an excavator?No, but neither can your mech, it can barely handle a weak wall.
>>65160518This thing looks like shit,is slow and a massive target.
The problem with mechs is that they're just too easily countered by giantesses. You'll never be able to pilot a robotic limb as naturally as a giantess can use her own limbs.
Exoframe?
>>65160686>losing in gamingEvery "game" out of China is mobile gacha slop.
>>65162655They've started doing prestige games (wukong or whatever the fuck is the most obvious example) but chink games are generally speaking fucking dogshit, I can't imagine bragging about them lmao
>>65160669Because it's Unitree, the world leader in consumer robots. They are in the actual business of selling these things for years already, with their Go1 robodogs. You can laugh all you want about the Chinese being cheap producers, but the constant iterations and large amounts of sales mean that they get lots of feedback and even community support (unitree G1 humanoid even has something like a nexusmod styled user-made script base).
>>65162671The Japanese one looks superior in every way to the shoddily made chinese one
>>65162655Outside of Nintendo it's not exactly like Japan is breaking the bank with games. Frankly something you'll be struck by how is ossified the Japanese gaming industry is. China and Korea have up and coming companies, the US/West has new ones popping up like weeds all the time. Japan and it's old dinosaurs that have been around forever: Nintendo, Bamco Namdai, Sony, Square Enix. And while Nintendo are sleazy fags they still are the only who really feels to be consistently hitting it out of the park. The Japanese just are stiffling innovation or entrepeneurialism. There's no Japanese Mihoyo, no Japanese Toby Fox, the Metroidvanias that come out aren't Japanese. Either it was that bug knight sequel or deltarune or both which damn well caused major tech issues for Steam on their releases, and I don't recall any Japanese games achieving that. I'm not even a fan of any of those games, I only care about Mihoyo for coom, but Japan is really heavily coasting on legacy media or legacy companies.
>>65162675The japanese one is a stationary toy tho. Every part of it is probably hand-crafted and cannot be replaced, because every single one is made on order for the specific purpose of some PR-gag. Enjoy mechanical breakdowns and being unable to source any spare partsThe Chinese one has the backing of a giant fucking COTS supply chain behind it, with constantly improving software and hardware iterations.
>>65162683>The japanese one is a stationary toy tho.Well, yes, it's a mech. That's the point. They're not meant to be serious weapons, they're toys to play with.
unitree needs to be sanctioned tho.they are providing the PLA with their Go2 and B2W dogs.
About mechs, it's not a question of "Can we build them?" but more of a "Why should we build them?" especially the manned bipedal ones.
>>65162711that part of perfectly utilizing slopes and urban terrain still could be a potential plus.
>>65160518>god emperor trump visits china>implessive comments drop by almost 100%End me
The only way to make chink shills and mech spammers on /k/ more obnoxious is by fusing them into a single entity.
>>65160518China is probably gonna use them to bring supplies into Tibet, and to melt Indian soldiers with sonic weapons or shit lmao
>>65162677>MihoyoYeah, if chink skinner boxes are the future of gaming I pray for that industry to collapse. Also for The Earth to open up and swallow China as a whole.
>>65162677Mihoyo has become too japanified, as in stingy and low risk/low investment. Newer chinese studios and their offerings are much better. Like NTE/anime GTA. In the end, same reason as for why they dominate: Chinese government is supporting the industry, not just one, but anyone who wants to try - only condition is that they get into the thunder-dome to fight each other until one comes out ontop of it after savage competition on price and quality. That one will be their champion.Doesnt matter if its gaming or robotics.
>>65160669anon Japan is one of the most important countries in the semiconductor supply train, alongside the USthey are the nation that enables these advancements in the first place
>>65163295Only for chemical resists, which is mere one part of the supply chain.
>>65160518>but since Unitree Robotics is actually mass-producing a civilian manned bipedal mechWho is buying them? Can we see footage of them actually doing any useful work?
>>65162581>US was defeated at robotics by bugsGrim.
>>65163345Until we actually see their robots do anything it's a moot point, all we're looking at right now is vaporware.
>>65163345>bug robotics defeated by bug roboticspar for the course i guess
>>65163300Why do you even bother. The butthurt chinkshill is going to bump this shill threads for days.
>>65162583A humvee certainly gives a mech competition in impractical vehicles with a tendency to fall onto their sides.
>>65161651Anon you saw how wobbly that thing was, walking like that is absolutely natural to a Russian!
>that loosely stacked "wall" of cinderblocks because it cant actually do any real loadbearing workjust like the bots that can only do dance moves
>>65162645I love how the Anime outright states "it's fucking alien space magic and we have no idea how it works".