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So it seems the Ukrainians aren't standing still with their FP-2 platform. It's already been a mothership for FPV drones and now for its latest addition, it can now fire multiple unguided air-to-ground missiles!

No clue on what the missiles are, but I'm guessing S-5/8? Could be Hydras too I suppose, but they probably have the soviet equivalents in better stock. Whatever they may be, I cannot wait to see these things strafing oil refineries & ports.
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Also, muscovites are enjoying a nice sunday drone raid as well. This time without those annoying air raid alarms!

with sound: https://files.catbox.moe/t4921z.mp4
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>>65162025
Bongs supplied them with APKWS bolt on guidance kits so they must have hydras
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>>65162040
I mean sure they have Hydras for those, but APKWS are much more useful in other applications, they even shot down a Shahed with the APKWS, so I doubt they'd be tossing the Hydras unguided in drone attacks.
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>>65162040
S-5/8s are close enough in size to hydras that APKWS would probably work with them without modification besides a thread adaptor.
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Zelenograd district in Moscow is particularly toasty.

>>65162051
I'd really doubt it's that simple, but given what the Ukies have achieved so far, I wouldn't put it past them.
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Air defense cucks are at least trying this time, though I don't think with much effect.
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>>65162068
S-5/8s are smaller, a simple sleeve for the threads might work.
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Starlink really leveled the game. The ruskies won't get the same performance from their own rassvet slavlink. Probably they would need chinklink next year to get decent performance.
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>>65162071
is that a nuclear powerplant in the middle of a city?
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>>65162025
Vgh rusissies, I don't think our total Ukraine demilitarization campaign is going according to plan
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>>65162075
Nothing compares to the latency & bandwidth of Starllink atm and won't for quite a while. SpaceX's constellation is literally orders of magnitude larger & their launch cadence is as well. Literally launching more time & more mass into orbit than the rest of the world combined.

>>65162076
Doubt it, that's just a way you can design cooling towers in general.

Also, normal zigger rush hour.
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>>65162082
>Doubt it, that's just a way you can design cooling towers in general.
fair enough, just can't be sure with their retardation anymore
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>>65162086
I mean I wouldn't put it past them, there is cooling water to draw from the moskva river lmao.

Some rare sightings of air defense cucks shooting their loads and hitting targets as well from this evening.

with sound: https://xcancel.com/JayinKyiv/status/2055964643646918977
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High-rise apartment buildings don't seem like a very good target, but is it simply that drones that don't use image guidance are hitting tall buildings by accident?
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>>65162094
I'm guessing those are the ones where EW actually worked, doubt the ukies are deliberately hitting high rises when there's much more juicier targets in Moscow.

Like this Solnechnogorskaya oil pumping station.
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Btw none of these clips have any air raid sirens going, like not a single one and these are from all over Moscow region.

Strike on Angstrem semiconductor plant supposedly.
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>>65162093
This secondary explosion is the drone's own payload going off right? Looks like a shaped charge to me.
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>>65162110
Definitely a mini nuke
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>>65162038
>>65162045
>>65162068

I thought Ukraine was the good guys? Why are they terror bombing apartment blocks like the Russians?
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>>65162107
>Btw none of these clips have any air raid sirens going
can't cause panic among the population tovarish ))
>>65162111
god I wish
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>>65162110
Yea most likely the payload.

>>65162094
Here you can see one FP-2 flying in between high rises & avoiding them while scouting out targets, much to the pleasure of air defense cucks.

>>65162117
TZD, my dear zigger.
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>>65162117
Reap the whirlwind, vatnig.
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Another successful intercept, but the drone's payload didn't go off immediately with this one. I think this is a Pantsir missile as like in >>65162093 ?
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And finally a Ukie compilation of strikes. I think they're still continuing though as more videos seem to be coming in.
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>>65162094
It hit right into concrete roof, worst place if you want to do any damage. EW most likely
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>A male Indian citizen was killed and three others injured, India's Moscow embassy said, but it was not clear whether these casualties were included in Vorobiev's tally. Another person died in Belgorod region bordering Ukraine.
SAAAARS PLEASE STOP SAAAAAAAAAAARS
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>>65162161
Prepare the board for incoming shitstorm
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>>65162161
>advanced juggernaut tactics
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>>65162161
>Another person died in Belgorod region bordering Ukraine
Was this the dude that got a FAB dropped on him by the BBC?
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>>65162025
Even the S5 is a spicy little guy with quite a lot of blast on its initial burn cycle, so I dunno how well that translates into a comparatively light drone launching them.
Course, it is one-way trip anyway so if you need to suppress enemy AA on the way in before crashing into something more substantial with the bomb onboard, that makes sense if you can carry the weight and spare the fuel to do so.
Pretty cool even if it would be hard to use
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>>65162161
Probably natural causes, elephants, trains and power lines do that to them
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>>65162232
what pissed off that elephant?
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>>65162236
He was put on hold while the needful was being done
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>>65162236
Poo'd on the wrong road.
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>>65162038
does the ukraine ever issue evacuation orders to troll russians?
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>>65162051
>>65162073
different rocket motor, different ballistic performance

>>65162236
he redeemed the gift card
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>>65162107
if that's a single drone on a single target, how many other drones for that target were shot down? seems like there's not a lot of drones at the destination.
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>>65162311
Supposedly this was the largest drone wave Ukraine has done in this war so far, they've probably got other targets in their area to deal with as well. They're probably also directed on demand depending on hits/misses/shoot downs.
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fuck the drones, I want to know how many FP-5s went in masked by the drones
those are probably the ones doing the real damage
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>>65162327
i'm curious to see when we will see evidence of air defense missile shortages.. maybe when russia starts firing AA guns from inside heavily populated areas
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>>65162364
There was light arms fire in some of the Moscow strikes, didn't sound like there was any heavy machinegun or cannon though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct13v9KOzT4
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>>65162308
The thing is APKWS does constant course correction and if it is designed for Hydra then all you are doing is giving it a larger control surface to mass ratio. It is quite possible the main effect would be to make it more agile.
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>>65162364
>i'm curious to see when we will see evidence of air defense missile shortages
All those daily fires on depos, factories and refineries is evidence of missile shortages. They simply don't have enough to defend anything, even Moscow
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>>65162409
APKWS's guidance software is written for Hydra. It's not going to control anything for shit when you slap it on fundamentally different rockets. it'll be like you trying to drive an airplane based on your bike-riding knowledge.
>bbbut just write software according to Soviet rockets' flight characteristics
then it wouldn't be fucking APKWS anymore now would it
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>>65162068
>Zelenograd district
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>>65162364
>maybe when russia starts firing AA guns from inside heavily populated areas
How do we tell him?
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>>65162461
And JDAMs work with half a dozen different bombs and multiple glide and/or rocket kits including ones that didn't exist when it was first invented. And of course JADMs can't work with anything other than a US made bomb for 'reasons' otherwise it isn't a JDAM right? APKWS is JDAM for rockets simple as and was designed for future use with systems other than hydra, wiki to the rescue:

>In 2015, the APKWS was tested in live-fire exercises with the Forges de Zeebrugge unguided rocket, showing that it can convert other rocket types into PGMs.

So yeah, reality says you can put APKWS on other rockets and it is still APKWS. Also you have a stupid head and your shit is all retarded.
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>>65162489
But Forges de Zeebrugge produces NATO-spec 2.75'' rockets. They're the same as the ones produced by General Dynamics.
Now, if they had managed to fit an APKWS seeker to the SNEB, that would've been a different thing.
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>>65162327
>>65162364
300 drones went through 3 out of 4 lines of AA defense around mosqueov, air defense cucks are done for
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>>65162311
Allegedly 600 drones targeted Moscow
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>>65162025
i've wondered for a while how feasible it was to add shit like rockets and FPV drones to FP-2. they often strike fuel trains and I thought that it's kinda wasteful to use one or two drones that can only affect maybe 2-4 fuel tanks each, while the rest of the train is unaffected. with this they can hit more of them with a single sortie. though i would try to make one of them a machine gun drone to pepper the train first to get that fuel flowing first.
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>>65162539
They also put a rocket launcher on an regular quad drone. Btw going after the fuel trains is because the ziggers have begun storing their fuel in them so anything to deplete that is a good thing, even if it is just a few train cars at a time.
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>>65162364
Anon... I don't know how to say this, so have a video from Sevastapol.
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>>65162571
no reason to panic
is town celebrating wedding with fireworks))))
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>>65162587
And I think this would be preferred in Moscow as well since missile AD can't stop hitting apartment buildings.
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>>65162571
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Compilation of Moscow AD fucking up.

with sound & original res: https://xcancel.com/KramarenkoMari3/status/2055952856956502065
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>As reported yesterday, Russian anti-drone mobile fire teams face legal liability for damage caused by drones they shoot down.
>This will be a particular risk in urban areas. So, as the Russians themselves have complained. they often aim to miss, or just don't shoot at all.
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>>65162025
Rocket pods from this, anyone want to venture a guess on dimensions to figure out which rocket it is?
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Seems like we'll get some more kino over night, a new wave left an hour ago or so.
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>>65162110
ima firin mah lazer
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>Ukraine went from a backwater that's mostly known for being like Russia but smaller to a leader of military innovation
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>>65162076
What's the problem?
Soviet reactors are the savest in the world.
They are so save, they don't even need containment buildings.

>>65162082
Yea, apparently there is no nuclear power plant inside the city, it's probably a gas plant.
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>>65162068
>Day 1,544 of the Special Decartelification Operation
>Mexican-produced UAVs, some using carried ordnance are firing on DC. Several districts burn.
>President Guy still believes the US forces are close to winning the war after casualty numbers not seen since the Civil War.
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>>65162025
That looks fun, I want to play that game.
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>>65162771
pretty sure all of these drone tech companies have very heavy US money involved
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This shit has fucking gotten out of hand, you stupid alarmist fucks
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>>65162827
Pretty sure you take it up the ass
Doesn't really mean much, does it?
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>>65162712
If it's from one of the drones, probably an S5
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>>65162076

no, look at the red and white chimneys nearby
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>>65162827
Which is why the US is getting fucked by Iranian drones, right?
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>>65162571
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>>65162504
BAE considers it separate from the weapon and says they can fit it to any comparably sized rocket. It is like a JADM, it isn't a weapon it is a guidance package and JADM doesn't care (within reason) about the sizes or ballistics of the bombs it is attached to. As long as they can maneuver the bomb (or rocket) within the cone of opportunity it works. The APKWS seeker has larger control surfaces than some 122mm guidance heads, as long as it was within the CEP of the strike cone it would work with a Grad.
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>>65162851
>>65162908
what I mean is that its some US techlords investing in these companies heavily and essentially using Ukraine as a test ground
post-war the tech might stay in Ukraine or might just get eaten by the venture capitalists
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Interesting how all of these are getting out. Kremlin is still tightening its grip.

https://meduza.io/en/news/2026/05/13/moscow-orders-media-blackout-on-drone-strike-and-attack-aftermath-photos
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>>65162025
those salvos against the tower were pretty impressive given they were done with latency
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>>65163054
I saw an article somewhere that was talking about how Russians were starting to become relatively tech-savvy in bypassing the internet crackdowns. So it's no surprise that these videos are coming out
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>>65163083
yeah, russians make some of the best software for that

as always there is deep programming talent in russia but somehow they always fail to make anything valuable with it so it's wasted on stuff like piracy or in this case, circumventing internet censorship
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>>65163137
>there is deep programming talent in russia but somehow they always fail to make anything valuable with it so it's wasted on stuff
true to the spirit of the original pre-web internet
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>>65162619
>>65162676
>Slinging missiles inside a dense urban area
How will this help in stopping drones?
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>>65162827
Nah, its mainly European money. Look up the Danish Model.
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>>65163224
I'm glad to see that they're doing more to take care of themselves over there
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>>65163137
>somehow they always fail to make anything valuable with it
It's actually really simple: the regime basically built a system where anything you do can't lead to your success and instead will actively fuck over you. An anti-incentive system of sorts. People might be dumb, but they are not as dumb as you might think, i.e. they still have pattern recognition of sorts.
- Khodorkovsky makes the most profitable and successful oil company in russia (with a fuck ton of investments into tech, human capital, etc)? Gets jailed, company gets stolen from him.
- Gusinsky makes a media empire with TV channels, satellite TV and so on? Has to escape the country to avoid jail, company gets stolen from him;
- Chichvarkin makes the most successful phone retail chain? Has to escape to avoid jail, company gets stolen from him;
- Evtushenkov bends the knee and works with the regime for decades, has a plethora of businesses, but doesn't want to sell his small oil company to another company (headed by putin's friend)? Arrested and forced to sell it for pennies.
- Pshenichiy (often called "russian elon musk") makes a company which helps with modern 3D CAD modeling of industrial shit, including sensitive crap like submarines, is very successful, then someone wants to take over his shit, he declines, so they whip up a bogus criminal case ("your contract had overinflated cost!!!1111"), jail him, then he's raped and killed in pre-trail detention;
Literally any business made in russia will be taken over by the state directly or indirectly (regime-aligned oligarchs), and if you try and prevent that they'll jail and/or kill you. Simple as that. Russian IT sector had more than a decade of wild growth, to the point of the country having competitive local search engines, maps, email services, social networks, and so on and so forth, but then the 2012 protests happened and the regime boomers finally realized that internet is important, so shit went down. And now it's dead Jim.
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>>65163296
Interesting write up, funny how if they weren't so fucking retarded they could probably be raking in a fuckload of data & intelligence from the west for their nefarious uses if they could have just not been such ziggers about fucking everything up with corruption. Wonder if they realize this and are kicking themselves for the or is too much self reflection to expect from ziggers.
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>>65163337
There is no self-reflection because the culture and worldview are inherently broken, even for regular people but even more so for "the elites" in power, the KGB mafia and so on.
It isn't only the fact that they just want to take your stuff away for themselves due to greed, that at most 50% of the issue, the second big pillar is that the regime low-key collectively understands that there should never be any significant independent wealth generation. Because independent wealth generation == independence from the regime == potential to start funding politicians, competitors of the regime. h
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>>65162236
Imagine how you'd feel if you had the biggest most sensitive nose imaginable and you live surrounded by fucking Indians
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>>65162025
This is actually really cool. So far every little dumb thought I had about quad improvements, from dropping interceptors from planes to equipping them with shotguns, Ukies have not only done but exceeded my expectations. So I wonder how long before Russoid AD is weak enough to have UAVs cruise over refineries and casually rain cluster munitions.
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Large oil tanks are made of steel plates about 40 mm thick, so it seems difficult to destroy them by scattering fragments.
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>>65163296
Great write up. I'm more a china guy myself so a lot of this rhymes with what's happening over there lately. They're more subtle than Russians, but Xi seems intent on establishing a system that mimics this.

It's almost funny how decades of hard work to fix a system can be undone by one power hungry boomer. I say almost because that seems to be the theme of our current era even in places I like
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>>65162489
>doesn't know the difference between powered and unpowered flight
>thinks rockets and glide bombs fly at the same speed so course correction should be equally simplistic
>>65162928
>believes marketing material implicity
>unable to detect qualifiers and omissions
>thinks a guided rocket or bomb doesn't have to manoeuvre within the guidance cone, only has to get there
You're not old enough for this site, child.
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>>65163224
>Danish Model
>6 million population micro-state utterly dependent on its neighbours for protection, tech development, and key resources
>13,100 personnel (5,700 Army, 5,300 Navy, 3,000 Air Force)
>44 German tanks
>44 Swedish IFVs
>five <7,000-ton defence frigates, mostly armed with American weapons
>30 American fighters

C'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas la guerre
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>>65164003
As a Norwegian living in Denmark, we all know their military is a joke. So them giving money to Ukrainians to kill Russians is a pretty good cost effective deal.
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>>65162117
Honestly these are probably intercepted drones that were disabled and impacted whatever they happened to be over. Like in the first one, the drone seems to be on fire as it's coming in. Hitting a missile with an interceptor doesn't just make it disappear
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>>65162676
Western media was reporting that first video as a ukie drone. Even when the AD frag pattern was visible.
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>>65163359
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>>65162827
yes

>>65162771
>Ukrainian smekalka is better than both Russian smekalka and NATO tech
lol no
the key components of Ukrainian weapons now is Starlink and CRPA
drones have come full circle due to surges in anti-drone battlefield jamming, as predicted, and are now basically missiles with piston engines
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>>65162122

Why do dumbass Slavs put GIGANTIC watermarks right in the middle of the fucking video?!
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>>65162076
Not likely but that's not really that big of a deal either. 3 mile island, for instance, while not smack dab in the middle of a city is directly adjacent to one. Sensible engineering really mitigates the risk
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>>65164069
cause they've been stealing each other's vids and passing them off as their own
where the fuck were you the past 4 years?
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>>65164069
Because Telegram content theft is insane.
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>>65163296
>russian elon musk
>gets gay raped to death in prison
Truly no curse more lethal than being born smart in Russia
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>>65164149
otoh if you’re born stupid in russia you die in a meatwave or end up being gay raped to death for refusing
there’s no winning in russia
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>>65164074
>>65164078
But to what gain? Is it just credibility or do they actually get some financial gain from this? I understand watermarks when something can be used for propaganda purposes but this is just getting annoying.

Also can't they standardize watermarks so that we dont have 5000 different ones so we dont have to google wtf this unit/telegram blogger is? I think Ukies have gotten better at putting the trident on everything as of late but for Russia it is still bad.
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>>65164160
You're overthinking it. Most footage, especially strike aftermath, is coming from non-government accounts. Egocentric nerds want their fucking credit for being the first ones to post it.
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>>65164160
>just credibility
credibility is critical in this game, nothing "just" about it
>do they actually get some financial gain from this?
indirectly, yes
theatre-level command on both sides has fragmented, so commanders have to horse-trade personnel and equipment
Ukrainians more than Russians because they're more resource-strapped, and turned to crowdfunding from people like us sooner and to greater extent than Russians
it's well-known that more successful and successfully-publicised Uke units get more donations than others
very Hunger Games-ish, don't you think?

>>65164162
>Egocentric nerds want their fucking credit
this is also true
but don't underestimate the work these Telegram correspondents have to do; their only professional capital is their reputation. say you are a strike commander and you want to publish your videos. how do you decide which Telegram channel you go to? reputation, or as you call it, credit.
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>>65162117
Russians entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them.
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>>65162619
>Ryazanka
I sure hope that does not directly translate to "circumcision neighborhood".
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>>65164162
>>65164164
You are missing one more thing, the enemy can just grab the footage, send it to Hindustan Times for dissemination and boom, hundreds more videos of "actually it's Russia that's doing it, The Ukraine can't penetrate the air defense at all!"
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>>65162025
>Unregistered Hypercam2
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>>65164308
yeah I already mentioned that earlier
I was addressing anon's follow-on questions:
>But to what gain?
>Also can't they standardize watermarks
which are more fundamental
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.
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>>65164315
>yeah I already mentioned that earlier
In that case, in the the words we spoke before we were crowned the Old Friends, when we were not The Forefathers of this realm:

Disregard that, I suck cocks.
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>>65162827
FROM Americans only Ex-google CEO
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>>65162038
>muscovites
Isn't the capital supposed to be absolutely brimming with aa defense? Did they just relocate the systems after the parade?
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>>65162038
>bragging about terror bombing civilians
Subhuman behavior
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>>65164418
Just because they are there doesn't mean they work.
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>xaxaxaxaxa die hohol trash, starve and freeze lmao
>AIEEEEEE STAHP!!!! TERROR BOMBING!!! SUBHUMAN BEHAVIOR!!!!!
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>>65162110
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>>65162311
>seems like there's not a lot of drones at the destination
I assume the strategy is to keep the pressure on Moscow so that all the air defence that was relocated for the "parade" has to stay there and can't be moved back to refineries etc.

You'll not that Ukraine hasn't stopped hitting everywhere else, so Russian air defence is concentrated on Moscow and Ukraine just has to feed them drones on the regular to ensure that everywhere else remains undefended.
This also helps map out those air defences too, so maybe some drone waves might include a cluster that go for the defences.

There has been one day in the last week I think, where Ukraine didn't manage to get at least 2-3 AD units in their tally.
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>>65162489
>reality says you can put APKWS on other rockets and it is still APKWS
You don't know how flight control software works.

Go do some reading on PID tuning and then find the nearest programmable robot (a lego mindstorm, some aliexpress droid bot, a hacked roomba etc) and code a PID controller for it and then get stuck into tuning it.
It's actually really fucking difficult.

Quadcopters sort of deal with this problem through brute-force but even those require some presets and will malfunction if you just took the controller and put it on a different sized drone.
For rockets, the constant parameters in the PID function will be different between different rockets.
You have to work out what the new numbers are through experimentation and engineering maths and then update the control software appropriately.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PID_controller#Loop_tuning
>Designing and tuning a PID controller appears to be conceptually intuitive, but can be hard in practice, if multiple (and often conflicting) objectives, such as short transient and high stability, are to be achieved.
...
>Usually, initial designs need to be adjusted repeatedly through computer simulations until the closed-loop system performs or compromises as desired
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>>65164502
>There has been one day in the last week I think, where Ukraine didn't manage to get at least 2-3 AD units in their tally
seasonality
Ukraine claimed 220 air defence units hit in the 1 year from May 18 2025 to 2026
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>>65162827
>all of these drone tech companies have very heavy US money involved
Some do; ex-Google CEO, Palintir, people like that are involved.
Firepoint has US investors.

There's also a lot of European money involved too, probably much more than US.
Rheinmetal is balls deep into the Ukrainian MIC and funding/developing everything from FPVs to cruise missiles to interceptor missiles.
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>>65162833
>rocket drone threads are on-board
Now there are two of them!
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>>65164521
Activate de droids.
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>>65163159
>true to the spirit of the original pre-web internet
Russian hackers were a bit part of the early internet, they were just self-taught, non-professional hackers rather than the current generation of Wagner/FSB hackers that run cryptolockers and shit.
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>>65162076
It’s a coal-fired power plant.
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>>65162082
>Just driving over a lake of fire on the way to work
Fucking wagies, I swear
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>>65164051
I thought that was the Shadow King from Legion for a sec
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>>65162099
>more juicier
More juicy or juicer.
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>>65164305
>I sure hope that does not directly translate to "circumcision neighborhood".
It will be a suburb or apartment complex named after Ryazan which is a city/oblast. Ryazanka means someone from Ryazan.

Ryazan seems to mean a lot of things related to carving/chopping/slicing, maybe it was once a centre for abattoirs or lumber something.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B7%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%8C#Russian

I was hoping it was something to do with Ryazhenka which is a Ukrainian dish that Russia also has.
It's similar to yoghurt but it's slowly baked to caramelise and thicken the milk before it's fermented, it comes out like non-sweet dulche de leche (assuming no added sugar or fruit which also exist), it's much nicer than Kefir, with similar health benefits.
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>>65164612
depends on whether anon meant the targets in Moscow are more appealing:
>>65162099
>there ARE much juicier targets in Moscow

or whether there are numerically more targets in Moscow:
>there are many more juicy targets in Moscow

if both, the form
>there are many more juicier targets in Moscow
is grammatically correct, but awkward-sounding

so a good alternative might be
>there are many more and much juicier targets in Moscow
or
>there are many more, much juicier targets in Moscow
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>>65164623
>>there are many more, much juicier targets in Moscow
I would have written
>there are more and much juicier targets in Moscow
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I knew the throw weight balance was shifting but I didn't expect Ukraine to get to 1k/day before Russia did.
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>>65164612
>>65164623
>>65164627
That anon here, thank you for the grammar lesson. Given the contraction I used, the original meaning is "there is much more juicier targets in Moscow" which to my eyes does seem correct grammatically given the context, though "there are" might be more suitable.

Here's a nice example of how the drones get through the AD, 2 drones flying side by side in the rear with a lead drone that was intercepted taking the fall.
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>>65164722
in English,
>is
is used for singular things, and
>are
is used for plural things, with certain rare exceptions

>much
is used for uncountable and intangible things (salt, flour, dreams, colour, etc)
whereas
>many
is used for countable things (objects, people, tanks Russia has lost)

>mp4
a chilling sight
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>>65164740
Right, gotcha. Finnish doesn't have such differentiators in grammar so I usually go by what feels right in the sentence when it comes to English. By the "vibes," as the kid call it.

Have another video of AD being cucked, with a zigger lamenting their performance at the same time.

Better with sound too, they're trying to bring it down with only small arms fire, as is tradition
https://xcancel.com/Ma_Requin/status/2056398622866972734
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>>65164750
>I usually go by what feels right in the sentence when it comes to English
So do most native speakers desu
>>65164740
>there is much more juicier targets in Moscow
You just can't put "more" in front of "juicier", it's dead wrong, though a very common mistake for ESLs to make.
You never say "more bigger", "more better", "more worse".
It's just bigger/better/worse.
There's a lot of ways to correctly express your point, English is an extremely flexible languiage.
You might use:
>there are many more and juicier targets in Moscow
>there are juicier targets and many more of them in Moscow
>there are many more targets in Moscow and they're juicier

The "in Moscow" can be positioned in several places in the sentence and still be correct, so you can use it to break up the "more juicier" part which is the ambiguous and/or incorrect portion of the sentence.
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>>65164782
English is a retarded and illogical language because the grammar doesn't contain rules for pronunciation. Car and Ass have a different A only because nobody could be arsed to link the spoken and written form. Such a shitty mess of a language.
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>>65164800
The car and ass example is actually a funny comparison to make, as you could fix it with umlauts. A in Ass sounds like an Ä in Finnish, while the A in Car sounds like an A.
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>>65164642
Ukraine started producing interceptor drones 1 year before Russia
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>>65164800
>English is a retarded and illogical language
Well yes but...

>because the grammar doesn't contain rules for pronunciation
No, that's not the reason.
It's because English has many imports from wildly incompatible languages and we use them all and switch between grammatical systems on the fly, including in the same sentence.
Switching between Greek, Latin, and Norse roots on the fly is what makes English so weird.
It has one advantage though, almost anyone of European descent speaks at least one language descended from a common ancestor of English.
Finns, Estonians, Hungarians, and Basque are a little bit fucked though.

If you ever get into the philosophy of mathematics or really advanced computer science, and study formal grammars then you'll run into a concept about how the expressivity of a language is inversely proportional to the power of the language.

English is exceptionally expressive, because we have so many roots to draw from, we can express all sorts of very subtle differences between concepts which gives us great precision. This limits the power of the language which is to do with the clarity (analyzability in PhD speak) of the language and you can end up saying something very precisely that's impossible to for a listener to understand with certainty.
If you go down this rabbit hole, you end up studying context free grammars and I promise you that if you haven't been assigned it by a professor then you don't need to know this much about formal grammatical systems.
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>>65164857
>Ukraine started producing interceptor drones 1 year before Russia
I using that to reference Russia's attempt to reach 1k shaheds.
I'd have a more relevant image but they're all shitty-res because they're on facebook/instagram.
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>>65162678
Source? This would mean the air defense cuckold really is just watching from their chair.
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>>65164818
English should get Umlaute and re-introduce that funny 'th' letter (Icelandic still has it)

Out of curiosity, what do you call Umlaut in Finnish?
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>>65165305
NTA but that concept doesnt exist in Finnish and its just umlaut as loaned word
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>>65165305
>>65165335
In an academic setting it's referred to as "vokaalinmuunnos" which is "vocal change," though "ulmaut" is also acceptable. In "puhekieli" when people need to refer to them they're called "ääkköset," just a switch of "aakkoset" which means alphabet. But the other anon is also right, the distinction is rarely made in Finland because they're just part of the alphabet, but sometimes the distinction needs to be made and that's what's usually used.
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>>65164616
>Ryazan seems to mean a lot of things related to carving/chopping/slicing, maybe it was once a centre for abattoirs or lumber something.
In Bulgarian, we call someone ryazan/rezak if he is a cut dick of some persuasion.
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:DDD
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>>65163991
Huh, that's just basic PID controller shit.
In fact to drop laser-guided JDAMs pilots are trained to let the bomb glide for most of the time and only beam the laser once the bomb is in the ballpark PRECISELY because if you start lasing as soon as the bomb drops the JDAM will start using the steering surfaces to guide the bomb and waste energy.
The APKWS kit just screws between the rocket and warhead, it's completely "blind" to the weapon itself. It has four seekers, one in each canard, and it works by keeping the laser spot centered between the winglets as it spins. It's made to be a simplistic guidance system to keep cost down and to not require any modification to the dumb rocket.
Ironic how you're so fucking incorrect about this shit and have the nerve to talk down to people who know better.
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>>65165335
>>65165387
Thanks.
In case you care:
In German, these things appeared in words that were easier to pronounce that way, and they started writing that down as 'ae', 'oe' and 'ue', it morphed into ä ö ü, because the e was written smaller, stylized and/or above the vocal.
When printing happened and handwriting became more flow-ey, it turned into two vertical dashes, and eventually two dots.

Officially, they are palced at the end of the alphabet, along with ß.
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>>65165448
>pilots are trained to let the bomb glide for most of the time and only beam the laser once the bomb is in the ballpark PRECISELY because if you start lasing as soon as the bomb drops the JDAM will start using the steering surfaces to guide the bomb and waste energy
wrong, idiot, it's to reduce the reaction time of any laser warning system that might be on the target
your scenario doesn't even make any internal logical sense; if the JDAM is not yet in the guidance cone / basket, it's not going to manoeuvre because it's not going to see shit, dumbass
>works by keeping the laser spot centered between the winglets as it spins
that's not the problem
>It's made to be a simplistic guidance system to keep cost down and to not require any modification to the dumb rocket
again, irrelevant to the issue of manoeuvring and you outed yourself as a know-nothing pseud for thinking otherwise
>it's completely "blind" to the weapon itself
except for weight and thrust, as other anon also said

you are a pseud hiding your ignorance behind irrelevancies. go away and die in ignoble anonymity.
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>>65165305
>re-introduce that funny 'th' letter
That's called a thorn.
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>>65164616
>named after Ryazan
Which is a finno-ugric hydronym

>>65165389
>rezak
In russian it's just a "cutter" (as an instrument)
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How long until they arm them with IR or even radar/anti-radar missiles?
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>>65166701
Russians have already done this. However the standard version of the R-60M is kinda shit. If the Ukies can produce one with modern Western sensors, it could be worth trying to figure out if the concept of a drone air interdiction fighter is feasible.
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>>65166714
>drone air interdiction fighter
Only really useful against sneeds or helos, there's no way it's practical against a fast mover.
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>>65164160
So opposing side can't take footage of a Russian site getting blown up and claim it was Ukrainian. Thus the logo bouncing around. Can't be cropped or blocked without being obvious. How is this complicated for you?



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