Looks like the Caspian Flotilla is the next target for Ukraine's military humiliation of Russia's naval assets. Group reports sinking of 1 Buryan patrol vessel while there are also reports that drones struck the same port that this ship was docked at and destroyed a Grachonok patrol vessel as well. Meanwhile the Black Spark group also reported bombing two gas pipelines around St. Petersburg
>>65165092the Black Spark logo looks like a dispensary logo.
Here's translation of the Telegram post. THere's also pictures floating around of Russia putting up anti-drone nets on their surface vessels as well. I'll post some of those too
Not sure if this is just Z-bloogers just shouting out at the top of their lungs, but they are starting to talking about two things that are going to happen soon: Mobilization of more future dead Russians, or legitimate peace talks from Moscow
All of the pics for these new boat nets are from the same vessel, but I think the Russians are at a loss as to what to actually do now.
>>65165117Russia just legally defined people below 39 as "young", they're going to start mobilisation from the older end.
>>65165117>legitimate peace talks from MoscowNo such thing is possible, only Trump and Xi would call such a thing "legitimate" when the whole world knows monke will just beg for sanction relief and a "peace" that will last just long enough for him to stockpile bananan and chimp out again.
>>65165117I can't see Putin asking for anything less than Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhia, Kherson & Crimea, he needs those gas fields or the war was a failure and Ukraine will still replace Russia as Europes gas supplier.That is what this whole thing was really about, Ukraine was developing the gas fields and the EU wanted to buy from them instead of Russia which would cripple the Russian economy.The one bit of good news for Russia is a few Asian countries might be desperate enough to buy from them so long as the Strait of Hormuz remains closed.
>>65165117Here's a video coping about the Moscow strikes>>65165139true
>>65165147Source on webm? Is that a Russian official / state media?
>a country with no navy is sinking a ship in a inland sea
>>65165156pulled it from twitter. They didn't really give a name or what position, if any, the guy holes. But I assume the guy is a local official from somewhere around Moscow
Also, russian telegram reports on a friendly fire incident that has destroyed an MI-8 and killed its crew
>>65165162Thanks anon, I really want to know if this guy carries any weight because if Russian officials are openly talking about how defeat is actually victory then they might actually be looking for real peace talks.
>>65165147>We have to attack Ukrainians because they are Evil Nazis!>5 years of 3 day special military operation later...>Ukrainians are, in essence, RussiansThe absolute lack of Russian self-awareness coupled with galactic-sized pool of insincerity will never case to amaze me
>>65165172I think right now its just Z bloggers that are attempting to push Moscow into peace talks, while local officials are just trying to come up with copes as to why drones are getting through
>>65165147This will be their cope for the next 50 years.
>>65165185>they do not realize the actual third option
>>65165092Most boring and gayest war in recent memory, even gayer than war against ISIS and Libyan intervention, just end it already
>>65165194I know this is bait but just for fun can you name a war that has changed how wars are fought more in the last 50 years?
>>65165172This guy is Konstantin Malofeev. An oligarch and supporter of Putin.
>>65165145Never mind the gas fields. That stupid little referendum of his now means that those are legally russian territories. Ending the war means that he would technically be ceding russian territory. Hard to paint that as anything but a loss.
Ukraine also showed off its own, guided glider bomb kits recently. Apparently they're already in active use
>>65165201Yeah yeah I guess drones make it a bit interesting but seriously you can't deny the drab aesthetics of it, I guess it's because it's just slavic humanzees flinging shit at each other
>>65165203Would anyone in Russia really care at this point?
>>65165202Thanks anon, I just read his wiki and it's very interesting he feels he can talk like this.>>65165203Russia invented newspeak, what was said yesterday has no bearing on today and what will be said tomorrow is the truth.>>65165209I'm on /k/ because I'm a military autist so this has been an extremely interesting war thanks to the geopol, scale, justification, propaganda, manipulaiton of Ukie allies ect.Drones are just the icing on the cake of a clusterfuck that will be studied by every field for decades.
>>65165147>there's no shame in losing to yourselfThat says a lot about the Russian mentality.
>>65165139They can hold legitimate peace talks when Russian troops withdraw from the occupied territory.
>>65165183they've bend with their cope so hard they've done a full circle>ukrainians are our brothers! they will welcome us with open arms!>ukrainians are misled by the kiev junta!>ukrainians are nasty bandera russophobes!>ukrainians are nothing but drug addict nazies!!>ukrainians are SUBHUMAN FILTH!!>actually there is no shame in losing to ukraine, for they are russians...
>>65165156>>65165162>>65165172https://roscongress.ru/speakers/malofeev-konstantin>has held senior executive positions at leading investment banks and private equity funds.>Chairman of the Board of Directors of the Tsargrad Group of Companies and as Deputy Head of the World Russian People's Council—a public organization led by Patriarch Kirill.>founder of the Tsargrad TV channel, the founder of the St. Basil the Great Foundation, and Chairman of the Board of Trustees of the St. Basil the Great Gymnasium>a member of the Patriarchal Commission on Family Matters and Protection of Motherhood, a member of the Board of Trustees of the non-profit partnership "Safe Internet League," and Chairman of the Society for Russian Historical Enlightenment "Double-Headed Eagle"Picrel is MTL of part of a 2024 interview/biography on his company's website. https://tsargrad.tv/articles/kto-vy-gospodin-malofeev-podlinnaja-istorija-bogatstva-i-sluzhenija-cheloveka-jepohi-vozrozhdenija-rossii_1023112
>>65165156https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konstantin_Malofeevthis retard, "conservative oligarch", handles the most pro-regime propaganda, handled financial support for LDNR+ "separatists" and such
>>65165171eternal sharts brothers..
>>65165210>>65165226I imagine that the guys currently fighting on the frontline would care about it. I do worry that you could find it turning into a Weimar Germany situation (more than it already was of course). That being said, I do have to remind myself that the russian people are more like automatons than real people and will just swallow what is said to them.
>>65165145>>65165203that reminds me, whatever happened to that mineral deal or whatever trump and zelensky were talking about in early 2025?
>>65165245Anon by the end of the GWOT everyone was just glad it was over and didn't really give a shit we lost, and our casualties were basically nothing.I don't fully understand the Russians but at this point if the pitch is leaving Ukraine or general mobilization I think they will take the L and just cope that it was actually a victory.I can't see the guy that just spent 2 years getting droned being too upset it's over.>>65165248It was signed and on paper if the US provided aid they would get resource extraction rights in Ukraine post war.Ukraine will have no problem getting out of it because no international court will consider the US cutting all aid as fulfilling the contract.
>>65165244Zemlya govnom.
>>65165254yeah kinda figured that deal was not going to get honored after everything that has happened. no wonder it's not brought up any more.
>>65165248Trump was talking about it, and it's largely meaningless unless Ukraine gets all of Donbass and all the mineral deposits.Also, Ukraine will probably be a EU memeber by the time the minerals start flowing, so all the exports to the US will then be EU exports. Sadly, SOMEBODY put tariffs on all those.
>>65165239>what does winng SVO mean to you?>all ukraine. >except western Lol
>>65165203Doesn't matter. Entire war was already illegal in Russia's own criminal code.
>>65165147After a few years when their "Ukranians are Russians" cope expires, they will start calling themselves Ukranian so they won't have to face the consequences.
>>65165302Special military operations are perfectly legal comrade.>>65165254The average Russia might not, but there are plenty of hard-liners that already hate Putin for being 'too soft' on Ukraine. When he finally dies of old age, I doubt he will be replaced by a freedom loving liberal democrat.
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>>65165145Its interesting how rarely this is mentioned as mining/petro engineer it was pretty obvious if you knew politics. Ukraine has the pipelines in place already. And is a competitive supplier to russia without political baggage or threat of nuking The perfidious Saxons. The gas fields would last " only " 15 years but that was in line with European plans to slowly decarbon and build up renewables. Black sea has more. That's also why the Russian sacrificed so much on snake island. They wanted to get the Maritime exclusive economic zone it would project. (Small island a worth a lot look at the Greek islands fucking over the turks) The oil money and stability would lead to a influx of western companies that want to deChina some supplychains with cheap labor. The logistics over sea, Bosporus etc are actually quite ok. Russia needed to attack having a rich pro EU neighbor that steals your customers would cost them billions. Russian would see that Ukrainans have Ikea and flush toilets and get mad. Oligarchy can't have that ...
>>65165117>turn your ship into the worlds biggest crab pot if you take a hitBeautiful
>>65165337>every boat sank increases russia's food productionrassia wins again)))
>>65165203>now means that those are legally russian territoriesA-ha-ha-ha. No. Nobody gives a shit. Just because you said so doesn't make it so.
>>65165358No anon, what he means is that they are Russian territories under RUSSIAN LAW, which means he would, in fact, have to explain to the Russian people why exactly he is giving up what he declared to be rightful Russian clay. Turns out that formally "annexing" territory that you haven't actually secured yet is really fucking retarded. By the way, wasn't the whole annexation thing a legal loophole to allow Putin to deploy mobiks because Russian law states that consripts cannot be deployed outside of Russian territories when not in a formally declared war?
>>65165301He says the victory parade must be in Kiyv.Also, kek @ "everyone dreams of coming here".It's true that practically every single one of us would at one point or another have a fever dream during a nasty flu, or meds-induced nightmares.
>>65165117>legitimate peace talks from MoscowNo such thing. They can't possibly accept reasonable terms
>>65165384They will when it finally dawns on Putin that Russia is too weak to impose terms and will instead have to negotiate properly and in good faith, including making heavy concessions.We're in the first stages now, see; Putin's "SVO will be ending soonish" comment. That was almost certainly for domestic reassurance rather than an actual serious statement of intent, but is shows that Putin is starting to understand that his position is much weaker than he thought it was.
>>65165139>only the two other superpowers of the world that actually deal the cards would call it legitimateWell shit I guess nothing they can do then
>>65165358Except as the anon said, yes he has to care. At least he has to pretend to care. Putin has to, under 'law' uphold the territory of the Russian Federation and protect its citizens. Since he and Russia as a whole has declared the oblasts 'official Russian territory' then he has an obligation to protect them. In the eyes of the law, they are being occupied by a hostile military power, so he is obligated to go and free them with the military. In reality declaring them Russian territory was to get around the loophole that soldiers (with money) were using which was getting lawyers to block their deployment to Ukraine by citing that the Russian military has no 'offensive war' rules, as in, you cannot officially send Russian soldiers into foreign territory in an offensive capacity (you can if you're attacked but you can't start it). So soldiers were avoiding it or were being 'put into reserves' so they didn't have to go to the front. But if the land is officially Russian? Well you're fucked. Since the law states that any military personnel can be deployed to protect Russian territory, officially, they're being sent to garrison/protect the area... In reality they're used to land grab. There is no legal way out of this, because the land is officially Russian in the eyes of the law. Finally, the second important reason Putin did this was to make leadership a 'poisoned chalice'. If anybody thought about killing him to end the war, settling a peace deal and returning to filling their pockets by selling gas and stealing research project and military funding, then they're stuck having to 'uphold the territorial integrity of the Russian Federation' which means that somebody ELSE could legally go "You're not fulfilling your duties, we're arresting you" and somebody who would be willing to continue the war would get in.So that's ultimately it.>Give it to me or this will go onRussia doesn't care if 1 million or 10 million or 100 million Russians and simps die for them.
>>65165310>Well you see, it is called Kievan Rus for a reason, we all came from Ukraine. Of course we could not win against our forefathers
>>65165400Correct. Any deals made by Trump and/or Xi are completely irrelevant unless the EU and Ukraine sign on. Remember; the sanctions that hurt Russia the most are those that have been imposed by Europe and the majority of Russia's frozen forex assets are sitting in European banks, not American or Chinese ones. The US and China have no say in what happens to those sanctions or assets.
>>65165377>>65165401My clueless friends, russia is a neo-feudal KGB mafia state. There are no laws, there are no courts, there are no institutions - it's all fake decorations for clueless foreigners. A fig leaf designed to make the degenerate mongoloid regime look "civilized" and "european". The russian constitution does not matter, it's a like a cheap whore, only to be user for a buck. If the russians laws mattered, czar monke would've been in prison decades ago along with most of his faggot brigade.
>>65165424But there are laws. I just mentioned them.>b-b-b-b-but the elites....Yeah? And? No shit. But it's a bit like how it is illegal in Alaska to whisper in somebody's ear while hunting. How many people are going to go an report that violation? You might let it slide until your friend fucks your wife then you mention he did it and he's punished for it. My point is the laws exist, the fact the elites aren't punished for it is irrelevant, rather. They can use it to punish people when they need to. In this case, as I said, people were using the legal system to avoid being deployed, the oblasts being Russian means they couldn't any more. Simple as that. It also means that any CONSCRIPT (rather than professional) can also be deployed.
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Can anyone give me a quick rundown on the situation of the war? I feel like since the Kursk expedition nothing important happened. When/what is the next big happening? What should we look out for as indicator of an imminent russian collapse? I just want a bloody decades long civil war in russia so fucking bad and desperate russian women
>>65165424Oddly sounds like the united states trump and co should be rotting in prison right now
>>65165437After 6 months of Russia slowly advancing and Ukraine making a fighting retreat Ukie drone production has reached the point they have been advancing behind a wall of drones and Russia lost territory over the last 2 months.
>>65165437Its tipped from Stalemate(Russia favored) to Stalemate(Ukraine favored), with Ukraine's advantage growing steadily.No sign of any massive breakthroughs yet, but Putin and his regime can no longer deny that they cannot prevent Ukrainian strikes on Russia proper. Also, there was a massive internet crackdown in Russia, blocking pretty much all foreign websites and forcing everyone to use a government controlled app. These actions are not things that winners do, and the Russian people are nooooticing.
>>65165437despite oil being double in price compared to a year ago, oil revenues for the russian state are down 40%
>>65165433Once again, there aren't any "laws" in any modern civilized context in russia. There is only the will of the regime. Hence why things like Wagner could exist for a decade despite being illegal in russia from the point of view of "laws".>>65165437>Can anyone give me a quick rundown on the situation of the war?- ukies went all-in on drones, created a whole new section of the army for unmanned systems;- explosive growth in usage, manufacturing and development of drones, both for short range strikes, mid-range strikes and long-range strikes, both air, sea and land;- this resulted and steady growth of RU KIA, 35K per month already, the plan is to reach 50K KIA per month;- this is causing issues because this overtook RU recruitment numbers, for like 3-5 months russians are losing more than they recruit;- this caused their tempo to first go to zero and now go into the negatives;- one of the ways this is done by creating internal incentives for people to capture footage of kills and plug it into the report system, getting e-points for everything, which can be used in an internal "amazon of drones";- AA interceptor drones are now also a thing and have great results in shooting down Shahed drones;- ukies strikes inside russia grew tremendously and now quantity (destroying a ton of RU AA systems) is transforming into quality (being able to strike deeper and more targets);- RU oil export ports got hit quite badly;- recently mosqueov got hit as well;>>65165443When people are joking about "russification" of USA it's only partially a joke
>>65165453>despite oil being double in price compared to a year ago, oil revenues for the russian state are down 40%the fuck?! how?!
>>65165458refineries and export terminals getting bombed
>>65165310If Zangief turns out to have been Ukrainian all these years, that's when you know it's over.
>>65165458It's hard to export oil when all the refineries, terminals and storage facilities are on fire. Though to be pedantic, that's specific 40% number comes from the terminal near st Petersburg being hit. Hard to say exactly how true that number is now, but it's definitely had an effect.
>>65165396>We're in the first stages now, see; Putin's "SVO will be ending soonish" commentlol nopeThat was just standard "you can totally get the peace prize xaxaxa just stop those unreasonable crests from bombing us" bait. ie lock Ukraine into meaningless, bad faith negotiations while limiting their strikes via outside pressure for a few months. Very 2025. Per RU MoD leaks from a few months ago, on the other hand, those indicate Putin wants to continue the war into 2028 (minimally) before actually deciding what to do, given whatever is the reality on the ground at that time. Expect nothing sooner unless the wheels on the Russian economy really do come off.
>>65165473>Per RU MoD leaks from a few months ago, on the other hand, those indicate Putin wants to continue the war into 2028 (minimally) before actually deciding what to doI haven't seen this leaks before. Got a link? Even if this isn't true and the war was to continue for another 2-3 years would Russia even have an existing Black Sea Fleet/Caspian Flotilla by then? Let alone their ability to reliably produce things like tanks, apcs, and IFVs
>>65165464>>65165468it also has to do with changes to russian tax laws but that in turn is due to how much the state has already been looting the oil industry
>>65165473>those indicate Putin wants to continue the war into 2028Huh? The only 2028 mentions I've seen is Putin might expand the war in 2028 and that Europe expects the war in Ukraine to end by 2030.
>>65165128Am I seeing radar and comms equipment still completely exposed?
>>65165490>https://english.nv.ua/nation/official-details-russia-s-three-possible-war-scenarios-50600597.htmlSource being Ukraine.gov's Andrii Kovalenko. Feel free to believe it, or not. >Let alone their ability to reliably produce things like tanks, apcs, and IFVsLike they know/care about any of that. Russia is an extremely atomized and compartmentalized society. Why do you think they're acting like Moscow being bombed is so undeserved and mysterious?
>>65165528Well that is sad, but at least the ukrainians are not targetting housing, hospitals and schools on a daily basis so little Ziglata will be fine. Apart from living in Rusia, that is.
>>65165191Love me some irredentism.
>>65165092>>65165105I wonder if it's one of the older Buryans or the upgraded Buryan-Ms?>>65165528The modern Russian mind is genuinely one of the most warped, vile things I can think of imagining
>>65165128That net ain't heling againts heavy ass drone with 100kg+ warhead
>>65165443Yeah? They should? The reason American institutions survived is because of decisions made by a few people in key positions, and the reason the institutions are dying is because of decisions made by a few people in key positions. The decision by Mike Pence to not play along with Trump's faggot coup is what saved America, and McConnel chickening out and not going along with impeaching him post-coup is what doomed it. American democracy runs on luck and hopium, while Russia never had any to begin with
>>65165547It was just a meme back when Russia had those 'referendums'But now?The droning will continue until the demilitarzed zone is established.
>>65165528>>65165544>>65165607Eh, we saw the exact same thing in the US with 9/11.>why did they do this>they hate our freedomNo they hated your government supporting genocidal dictators. Still even the claps that didn't understand why 9/11 happened would understand why if Iran hit them today.
>>65165117>legitimate peace talks from Moscow"Legitimate discourse" has been an anathema for Russians for hundreds of years now>>65165117>more future dead RussiansThe Kremlin has ALWAYS been about that.
>>65165092>russia is losing the naval war to a country with no navy>including in oceans that country doesn't border>including an inland seaFucking wild.
>>65165798>>they hate our freedomIt's a bit deeper than that, but still true enough when talking to a child.
>>65165798>your government not supporting genocidal dictatorsftfysanctions against iraq and support of israel during no war in particular being the specific named causes.
>>65165798>genocidal dictatorsSuch as . . . .?
>>65165836Mohammad Reza PahlaviSaddam HusseinFahd bin Abdulaziz Al SaudYou have the internet if you want a much larger list.
>>65165816Trying to explain the shitshow that has been the ME since the Sykes-Picot agreement is difficult enough to an intelligent, engaged adult.
>>65165117>legitimate peace talks from MoscowI like to believe in unicorns too
>>65165840>Mohammad Reza Pahlavi>genocidal dictatorwhat do mudslimes smoke to post this shit?
>>65165203I have got an oxcart of shit for you my sweet summer child
>>65165117>>65165128>All that stinky bait in the pot!
>>65165840>Two least dictatorial muslims in existence>Saddam who got sanctioned and whipped by the coalition for years by that time and only got to purchase some US weapons to fuck with scumbags in iran>Trust me bro there are moreIf these are the key genocidal dictators US had supported then i guess islam really is a religion of peace and never hurt nobody ever, lmao.
>>65165357Mmm, seacube buffet!
>>65165798>No they hated your government supporting genocidal dictatorsNot at all why.
>>65165117>legitimate peace talks from MoscowTrump had to redduce aid levels to prolong the death prattle of Russian bear. Hahahhahahha!
>>65165117>>65165128>iz goot, vill kept off da pidgins!
>>65165158The irony is hysterical.
>>65165836Its the jews anon, they're talking about US support for Israel
>>65165811not the first time
>>65165145I can see him ditching Luhansk and Donetsk now that they are depopulated wastelands, but Crimea is non-negotiable for either side.
>>65166472>he can impose tariffs on themHe has tried that seven times in the past year and it was always called off. His hands are tied by the congress and the supreme court.
>>65165104Dispensing justice
>>65165458Ukraine sanctioning their refineries, ports and storage facilities hasn't helped matters much, but the total collapse of civilian industry probably didn't either.>GDP is contracting despite war economy and massive military spendingAnd those are the numbers the Kremlin openly reports, god only knows how bad it actually is.
>>65166472>a China supplied russiakek
>>65166472>Trump will just force EU to agree to the terms. He literally can't. They'll smile, nod, say some meaningless platitudes at a press conference, and ignore whatever Trump said or did or demanded.For proof of this, look at all teh 'deals'Trump made with the EU.>If they refuse he can impose tariffs on them He tried, his own Supreme Court, staffed by people he himself appointed for life, said 'no'.>or dismantle nato and leave them to die against a China supplied russiaRussia can't defeat Ukraine, and China will smile and watch Russia bleed out. And then simply walk into Siberia while making very angry (and empty) gestures towards Taiwan and in the South China Sea.>Eu is not a power nor will it ever beThe sheer irony here is that the EU never really wanted to be one, but now Trump has set the stage and forced them to become one.
>>65165842If they cant stop massacring each other over a century after the fact there was never any hope for then anyway. Same goes for Africa, the first thing the African league agreed on was the borders imposed by the west, because they knew changing them wold just result in even more killing.
>>65166472And who is going to enforce those tariffs? Certainly not the armed forces that refused to follow him into Iran.
>>65166472here's your (you)>will just forcelol>he can impose tariffsthe supreme court has ruled he needs congress to pass tariffs and he's going to lose both houses come the mid terms >dismantle natosame as with the tariffs >die against a China supplied russiathe EU is china's second largest trade partner, russia isn't even in the top 5
>>65165840>Mohammad Reza PahlaviDeposed half a century ago, repalced by a regime that happily slaughters its own people, other Arabs (see comments in this thread about Iran-funded militias in Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Yemen)Do note that each of these Arab states was destroyed by civil wars directly linked to these militias, with zero western involvement.>Saddam HusseinAh yes, deposed almost 25 years ago by. . .the US. After being invaded by the whole fucking western world 35 years ago when he tried to annex his neighbors.Don't get me wrong, he absolutely tried to genocide the Kurds, but calling him a 'western puppet' is delusional.>Fahd bin Abdulaziz Al SaudOK, you're just full-on delusional. The Saudis are probably the most independent actors of all the Arab and Muslim states. Sure, they are an absolutist kingdom, with Sharia law. But that is the highest goal of all Muslims, is it not?Just buying US weapons does not turn a country into a 'US supported dictatorship',
>>65165798>the exact same thing in the US with 9/11.>the exact same thingNot in a world where contect matters my guy.Now if 9/11 had happened AFTER the US started a retarded war in the middle east, you might be on to something, but I think you've got your timeline mixed up.
>>65165798Don't you have a cardboard man to mourn?
People are saying ukraine is gain ground but when I look at the deepstate map russia is still advancing (albeit very slowly)
>>65166472>Trump will just force EU to agree to the termsjust like he forced ukraine to surrender and the ayazuttahs to open the hormuz straight kek. agent orange is an impotent cuck that always TACOs out. His only purpose left is to hog as much money he can for him and his trailer trash family. From insider trading to bribes. Like the ones gulf states gave him (KEK) in 2025
>>65166506congress is impotent and supreme court only deals with issues that go back at least half a year. to not deal with flavor of the day hot topics the stock market is what strained him since it started crashing as soon as he revealed his "liberation day" (liberating you of your wallet). He has done over 3700 stock trades in the last QUARTER alone with sums of up to 500 million and exiting with over 700 million USD
>>65166664>>65166671Donnie, his family, and the leeches who surround him are quite literally stripmining the US economy. Unfortunately, the only people who give a fuck are too retarded to get the point across in a coherent manner. Or, they cried "Wolf!" too many times in the past, and now nobody listens to them.
>>65165798If you read his initial Fatwa from 1996 he lumps together all non believers in a "Judeo-Christian" alliance. To him, Israel's massacres in Lebanon and Russia's massacres in Chechnya are America's fault because the US sanctioned him which prevented him from buying weapons.In his view the Afghans had defeated the Soviet Union and cause it to collapse, and so the next step was to provoke the US into an unwinnable war to cause it to collapse as well.In his view the presence of non Muslims in holy Muslim lands alone was an unsufferable provocation.>>65165528If she told her granddaughter the truth she could get in trouble. Russians behave like children because they will be punished if they don't.
>>65165382I've had Gulag dreams. They're a generic nightmare for people like the falling one. Although I wish I either dreamed more or remember dreaming because usually I don't and I feel ripped off sometimes.
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>>65166612Don't you have a strait to open?
>>65166752The irony here is that the actual Luftwaffe staff told Goering that they were going to get bombed, specifically by the RAF.They expected the RAF to operate from French bases, of course, so after France collapsed all the paint huffing nazis in charge got a reprieve from reality and kepr the focus on spamming their own light bombers.
>>65166794No, my cunt doesn't use goods form the strait afaik. So, back to our discussion, did you say your prayers before the next round of bombings begins?
>>65165798>No they hated your government supporting genocidal dictators. Still even the claps that didn't understand why 9/11 happened would understand why if Iran hit them today.I think zoomers were actually taught this in school. It boggles the mind that something so recent could have been subject to historical revision. The actual dude told everyone why he did it, and it sure as fuck wasn't supporting genocidal dictators.
>>65166879Nah we weren't taught that. That guy's just a retard.T. Zoomgroid
>>65166693>cried wolfSounds like they were on the money and you just don't want to accept it for some reason.
>>65166698There's so much retarded fuddlore and propaganda about bin laden. Like nothing America could have done differently would have changed his viewpoint. Even abandoning Israel wouldn't have been enough. Ironically it's one of those bell curve memes, where the low iq and high iq explanation are both:>He hated the US's freedomBecause he really did, he viewed every single facet of American culture as a corrupting influence
>>65165620It's not for that. It's to make sure that when it's sunk, all seamen are caught in the net and dragged into the depth with it.
>>65165135>Russia just legally defined people below 39 as "young"as most countries do in politicsit makes sense if you think about how old you want your battalion commanders and regimental sergeant-majors to beH. Jones was 42 when he died at Goose Green>>65165092>>65165105>Here's translationthanks anoncan't believe this is all so matter-of-fact. I remember the reactions when the first Buyan was blown up
>>65166931Muslims in general and Arabs in particular are on the schizo spectrum, they always come up with the most convoluted explanations for simple things that happened.However, the king of Saudi Arabia who was killed bu his son returning from the United States must have caused quite a few Saudis to feel like their country had become a foreign puppet.
>>65166931IIRC his primary beef with the Saudis was asking America to guard them against Saddam in Kuwait instead of taking his offer to do it.
Things must be going really bad in Russia if they have to deflect hard like this.
>>65167063>his primary beeflike the other 2 billion mudslimes is that America was for all of the 20th century 90% Christian and aligned with the Jews and the muds hate both of them
>>65165842Why can't they just embrace multiculturalism?
>>65165147>Russians never loseBaltic fleet doko, Russian-san?
>>65167328that's the Baltic fleet and thus the baltics that lost, russia never loses ;)
>>65166931>There's so much retarded fuddlore and propaganda about bin ladenI like the conspiracy theory that he targeted the twin towers because he was a civil engineer and the decadent western architecture offended his sensibilities.
>>65166550>If they cant stop massacring each other over a century after the factViolence begets violence, especially with the Cold war, Israel, and Iran throwing fuel on every fire they see.>the first thing the African league agreed on was the borders imposed by the west, because they knew changing them would just result in even more killing.No, they realized that after the colonials left, they'd rather just take their jobs on top of the pile, rather than actually decolonizing (the DRC still basically functions as an extra I've empire, for example)>changing them would just result in even more killing.Katanga or the Tuaregs seceding would have caused more violence? I don't know what version of the Eastern Congo or Sahel your world has, but it really could not have gone any worse.
>>65168030>DRC still basically functions as an extra I've empireExtractive
>>65166550It was equally where you stand = where you sit. When you suddenly are in power now the idea of giving up territory means giving up your power. One of the universal features of joining the good old boys club of states is the taboo of partition. Secessionism can get tolerated as a realpolitik move, but partition or the idea of normalizing breaking up a country on ethnic lines is treated as denying the eucharist for its level of scandal in modern politics. I remember when Biden back around 06 floated the idea for Iraq and everyone just about screeched at him until he shut up. With African countries secessionism has a similar "Hey man, you're breaking the gentlemen's agreements" same as why I think it was Sierra Leone or Liberia got on a shit list by other Africans as it wasn't a proper coup (Enlisted men, not officers, and executing the former head of state). If Nigeria condones Katanga leaving the Congo, then in a few years the Igbo want to leave and feel emboldened to do so. Then the Tutsi or the Hutu want to then it spreads like an epidemic as much as Islamist revolutionaries did after 1979 or Liberal revolutionaries did after 1791.
>>65165798The "they hate our freedumbs" shit was cringe but Bin Laden was straight up assblasted that the Saudi royals rejected his plan to use Mujahideen to fight Saddam and instead called the US to deploy Op Desert Shield.9/11 happened because a trust fund kid who got a kick out of doing war tourism got cucked out of his next aura-farming session. That's why they attacked the WTC in 1993, just a couple of years after the Gulf War.
>>65167257Mudslimes are commanded not to in their book. They must put the unbelievers under the jizya yoke, Deus vult.In contrast, even Orthodox Jews are integral to support of the Christian pilgrimages to Israel. Which is a greater magnanimity than even I personally would have allowed.
