https://www.military.com/army-ranger-school-officially-adds-bayonet-training-for-close-combatIs this actually practical in tunnel warfare?
>>65166536I'm starting to think only thirdies post these non-news articles. I would never read them otherwise, and it can only explained by envy because any actual American really doesn't care. Kind of like the collective shrug when bayonet training was removed from BCT because they had to let women in.
yeah
>>65166536In theory, if we were to go up against the Basij, being able to form a bayonet wall would be useful to have, given their entire MO during the Iran-Iraq war was to use smoke to get into CQC with Iraqi troops.
>>65166555no it wouldn't pls stop doing mental gymnasticsputting a bayonet assault course back in the curriculum in ranger school is probably being done because the butterbars aren't doing it in IBOLC anymore. It's an old method of teaching focused aggression and a willingness to close with and destroy the enemy in close combat.
>>65166536Yet another Hegsethian reform that is Bringing Basedness Back to America's military.
>>65166563More likely the GBs are sick of having tabbed rangers show up where they're supposed to be making irregulars into a fighting force, full of machismo, and newjack is just sitting there without even knowing how to crack a jaw with a rifle butt. Doesn't exude confidence.
>>65166536I genuinely believe that no American infantry service should have dropped bayonet training. Sometimes it really does come down to sticking a big knife on the end of your gun and shanking some cunt.
>>65166542I'm John Smith from whatever oblast and now I believe that USA is fail and Iran will give everyone of American 9 yo bride.Fuck, is that real?
>>65166575If the actual goal was the teach them how to win in a hand to hand fight they'd be better off learning to grapple and use a knife than a bayonet desu. If they could ever conceivably be in a situation where a fixed bayonet is called for they probably wouldn't even be carrying one. But that's not really the goal. The goal is to teach them controlled violence of action but without doing the whole shoothouse song and dance. Assault through an objective and as close to the enemy as you have to without hesitating.
>>65166536Trump isn't going to because he has bone spurs, but he does want you to.
>>65166567Great, when are you reenlisting?
>>65166567Another Cocksbrethian reform? Strait is still closed and Trump had to run to Xi and beg him to open the Strait and offered up Taiwan for it
>>65166536>Is this actually practical in tunnel warfare?No. I guess wasting time on useless shit is on Hegseths masculinity agenda. Goal is turning everything more manly in Army and removing women from all things Army, especially sex.
>>65166567I like how you had to do two edits to strawman properly while using the gayest possible example of right wing masculinity with zero edits.
>>65166692Probably gayer to fuck some try hard army chick than a man
>>65166627Needs his gay ass heart comic
Why are faggots and browns upset that American Soldiers are learning how to use bayonets?
>>65166536>tf 6' elite marine gets sliced by alibaba drone in hdgonna be lot of based tradfag noise when that happens
>>65166749They're scared, obviously.
>>65166630>Trump had to run to Xi and beg him to open the StraitChyna needs it open more than the US does
>>65166595>If they could ever conceivably be in a situation where a fixed bayonet is called for they probably wouldn't even be carrying one>But that's not really the goal. The goal is to teach them controlled violence of actionI agree with you on both points, but what if there was something to teach "kill that dude" spirit while keeping with more practical matters of how rifles are actually deployed? Instead of teaching bayonet fighting, teach gun-fu. Why show the boys how to scream and stab with a bayonet (that they'll maybe have tucked in their pack somewhere at best while they use a folding utility knife for utility knife things) when you could teach them how to scream and pummel someone's brains out with the butt of the rifle they'll definitely have on them? Give them the innate knowledge and confidence that the fact that the rifle is empty doesn't mean it can't still go ballistic upside some motherfucker's head with enough motivation behind the swing. or you could probably do a bit of both i guess
>>65166749because every other country on Earth is constantly grasping at straws and so all they can do is piss and shid and make up lies. There is a constant global propaganda campaign against the USA. According to these filthy un-Americans:>9/11Was fake but also orchestrated by the US>Desert StormWas Amerikkka being evil and further expanding power in the ME>Iraq WarWas apparently a failure but also Amerikkka being evil and further expanding power in the ME>American military itselfIs apparently incompetent and in shambles>Apollo 11 Moon landingWas fake Amerikkkan propaganda, please ignore that China was literally starving at that time.
>>65166542You sound like you're coping and in deep denial about the fact that your SecDe- I'm sorry SecWAR is a fucking edgy retard.
>>65166795sounds like youre asshurt over Hegseth and the very sight of a bayonet made you spiral for some reason
>>65166630Cardboard ayatollah status?
>>65166782>Was fake Amerikkkan propaganda, please ignore that China was literally starving at that time.It's so stupid. The fucking Soviets had their own moon rocket, the N1, so they clearly thought it was worth the attempt.
>>65167142The Soviets, who had the most to gain by dismissing the Apollo moon landing, were the first to send their fucking congratulations. That said i wouldnt be surprised if some russian intelligence agency isnt fueling moon landing fake conspiracies but only because they have their fingers in every fucking pie imaginable
>>65166695>while using the gayest possible example of right wing masculinity with zero edits.Thinking that masculinity is faggotry is why you spent middle and high school shoved into a locker by people like me.
>>65166630Ok chang.
I'm really enjoying the irony. Before Hegseth, when we were pointing out problems that would cause us to suffer greatly against the chinks, chinks would respond by accusing us of being changs for wanting to fix problems that were giving chinks advantages. For obvious reasons, they didn't want us to fix our issues. Now those problems are being fixed, and the changs can only seethe about it.
>>65167194>masculinity is tattoos and a graphic tee
>>65167249No masculinity is wanting to understand white rage and promoting trannies.
why are we doing superficial displays od power shit like this? are we a third world dictatorship?
>>65167266>Oh my gosh... soldiers are training with bayonets... the decadent wect is over...
>>65167194>B..back in high schoolBuddy you’re shitposting on a 20+ year old anime breadbasket weaving forum bragging about how much of a based alpha you and your tabbless man-crush are. Sit the fuck down
>>65166536Sometimes
>>65167267its a complete waste of time. some retard higher up probably oversaw some infantry training and was like 'how come we arent stabbing the strawman with bayonets like we used to???'completely feels-based decisions from an admin that only thinks emotionally. we've seen plenty of close range trench combat and it ALWAYS ends up with dudes just shooting eachother from 2ft away. theres like one documented knife fight in the entire ukriane war.
>>65167194>He fell for the high school bully memeNice job, outing yourself as a friendless basement dweller.
>>65167274My guy do you know how much of your time in the military is a waste of time? You will sweep sunshine just so your Sarge keeps you busy.
>>65167281>team leader making his idiot joe sweep sunshine is the same thing as RTB wasting precious dollars and manhours changing ranger school’s curriculum to include useless dumbshit like bayonets
>>65166536No we have missiles
>>65167292Just admit you don't know anything it would be less embarrasing than this.
>>65167267Yes, hopefully to make way for a slightly-less-decadent west.
>>65167295>y..you’re wrong because….BECAUSE YOU JUST ARE OKAYLmao shut up never-serve
>>65167194you sure showed himany tips on how i could become more badass and masculine like you?
>>65167310Oh now you're larping as a soldier, pathetic.
>>65167325Yeah just keep digging that hole>sargeNo one fucking says that except the most bootfuck retard pog private
>>65167332You're pretty shit at this lol.
>>65167338Holy seethe
>people upset troops are learning a martial and physical skill which promotes esprit de corpWhy not be mad they learn to rappel? I would much prefer my troops be confident in hand to hand combat than abseiling.
>>65167344Lol you gassed out quickly
>>65166563/thread
>>65167194Cringe u
>>65167194Dont listen to these queers, i think yr quite hardass.
>>65166575>>65166595Bayonets are useless for modern combat. They are still useful for crowd control and assuming this isn't just kegseth sniffing his own farts that's probably why this is being taught
>>65167565Its also useful for getting people used to the idea of closing in with the enemy which in the era of fpvs is necessary.
>>65167569>to the idea of closing in with the enemy which in the era of fpvs is necessary.lol I couldn't disagree more. Do you work in russian high command by any chance?
>>65167583Lol are you a boomer pentagon suit who thinks US soldiers are going to get in long range rifle standoffs?
>>65166749Bayonet training is fun and they hate fun.
>>65166567lol this shit again
>>65166536I did bayonet training back in 2005, and I was a medical MOS pog.
>>65166536Some day, you're going to be getting hit in the face with an entrenching tool and you're going to think>Damn, I wish I had done those bayonet drills.
>>65167741I did it in 2014 at Ft. Sill
>Brownoid blood makes the grass grow!!!!!Look how nervous they are throughout the replies.
>>65166536>Is Trump Going to Bayonet charge the Iranians?No, he's going to do what he's doing now, which is nothing.
>>65168196>do nothing>win
>>65167644those women don't need to do anything because America takes care of their defense
>>65167332>no one says sargelmao
>>65168254the US is running away from all its commitments except to Israel though
>>65166567>appearance obsessed TV celeb that wears too much make up
>>65168324Dudes doing a better job than any other Sec Def we have had since I've been paying attention. Sure, some dumb stuff, but in totality a fucking awesome job.
>>65168328if you only care about meaningless idpol I guess
>>65168331Yeah bud, remember how the US .mil had that insolvable recruiting crisis? Weird how its gone now.
>>65167194lol
>>65166536Maybe, tunnels and trenches forces you to get close to the enemy, though both of you guys are going to be full autoing the shit out of each other first, but it is still nice to keep them away with a pointy thing just in case
>>65167222So to sum up: you let unemployed third worlders into your head and dictate your policy, and now any criticism is proof that you were right to do it.Boy aren't you smart.