A somewhat radioactive R60 was found on a missile from a Shahed in Ukraine.
>>65169029Ukraine acknowledged that some aircraft had been shot down by these missiles during mass air raids, though no specific dates were given.
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>>65169031The EOD team detected increased gamma at the site.
>>65169029...noook?
>>65169032The site itself was a typical Shahed/Gerber shoot-down.
>>65169033>noookNot the crowd-pleasing type, just the non-caring about environmental contamination type.
>>65169035The actual culprit is the warhead, which looks to me like a typical expanding-ring warhead but is said to be of depleted uranium, though maybe not as depleted as one would like.
>>65169035They recorded 12 μSv/h and have opened a war crime investigation.That doesn't seem a very dangerous level but if somebody picked up one of those rods and kept it in their home, it would probably be dangerous after a while.
>>65169037>Mom, John from Texas oblast has cool EFPs made from depleted Uranium!>Alexander Alexandarowitsh, we have depleted Uranium at home!
>>65169042so...The basic background dose someone would get in one day.... but per hour.
>>65169086Pretty standard depleted uranium spiciness
>>6516909312 μSv/h is pretty high for DU. The stuff the US uses releases about 1.5 μSv/h. You'd still need pretty prolonged exposure for it to be a worry, though, like bringing it home and keeping it under your bed for a year or something.
why will you condemn the territory you want to capture?
'member when pussians accused ukies of warcrimes because they allegedly use du tank rounds? I 'member
>>65169029Is that a real (defunct) warhead or one of those mini generator that Ziggers usually use in remote shithole? Also can Russia get nuked over this?
Is it for a continuous rod, or is it for a mass balancer, which is also commonly used in civilian aircraft?
>>65169097>12 μSv/h >12e-6 Sv/h>12e-6 * 24 * 365>0.10512So about 0.1 Sv over a year, assuming you spent the year hugging the thing? For reference, the occupational total-dose limit is 50 mSv, or 0.05 Sv over a year.You might receive more over 1 year smoking a pack every day, or living near a particularly dirty coal plant, though in both of those cases you might have other, non-radiological health concerns too.
>>65169099>capture?
>>65169104The z team used BARELY DU for ballast...
>>65169101>Is that a real (defunct) warhead or one of those mini generator that Ziggers usually use in remote shithole?Are you capable of reading past the OP before replying?
>>65169097Thinking about the anon that ate a DU round while drunk.
>>65169104>continuous rodYes, otherwise known as an expanding ring, though I'm not sure now where I picked up that term from because it doesn't seem to be in common use but it is a redirect on wikipedia.
>>65169166>>65169104>continuous rodI'm not sure a2a missiles require ballast, let alone DU ballast.Would seem to defeat their goal of maximising flight time and kinetic energy.Any ballast would best be made out of either warhead or fuel for maximum effect.There are some beautiful shots of the ballast exploding though.
>>65169165>I am the Strelok!
>>65169165based
>>65169172that's clever
>>65169193>It accounts for about half of AA/SAM missiles in use today, preformed frag is the other half.
>>65169037>but is said to be of depleted uraniumtungsten rods, big fucking deal, people weld with those, it's nothing.
Would making the rollerons in a missile out of heavy metals improve their stability?
>>65169219>Thinking that thorium-doped tungsten welding electrodes, that output miniscule amounts of Alpha radiation, are even remotely comparable to Gamma and Neutron-emitting uranium-based mystery slag the soviets scraped from the bottom of their reactor fuel recycling barrelDo you regularly make a habit of being confidently incorrect and speaking out of your ass on subjects that you know fuck-all about?If so, you should stop doing it.
>>65169253>make a habit of being confidently incorrect and speaking out of your ass on subjects that you know fuck-all aboutyeah anon, where do you think we are?
>>65169034>Gerber shoot-down.The Russians Aren't RightHow could one nation swallow so many lives!?!?Btw the Gerber baby died in 2022. She was 95.
>>65169253>mystery slag the soviets scraped from the bottom of their reactor fuel recycling barrelKek
>>65169042>12 μSv/h1.2mRem/hr is nothing, but interesting. Like "half what fiestaware is putting off", but "a lot more than you should see from a missile."(4.0mRem/hr is when we post basic rope boundaries at a nuke plant, <0.25mRem/hr is "we consider this zone non radioactive")
That's a fucking nothingburger. Seeker probably includes some radioactive isotopes in its design hence the warning.
>>65169647>Seeker probably includes some radioactive isotopes in its design hence the warning.It's literally DU rods anon, are you stupid?
>>65169862Literally fucking where?
>>65169917In the warhead, are you stupid?
>>65169960May I see it?
>>65169029>Barely depleted-U CRod warheadwtf but why
>>65170011Yes you can.So you are stupid?
>>65170042Can you post it? Nothing has been posted showing it so far.
>>65169037>though maybe not as depleted as one would like.Even completely natural, un-depleted uranium is already 99.3% U-238. Unless you're looking to enrich it or calibrate a very precise radiometer there isn't really any meaningful difference between that and fully depleted, pure U-238.>>65169042Given that it's (primarily) an alpha emitter there tends to be a very significant difference between how much it gives off and how much actually gets to any living tissue in your body. Well, short of you showing it up your arse or some such.>>65169097>The stuff the US uses releases about 1.5 μSv/h.Per attogram? Pound? Solar masses?
>>65170103>Can you post it?I can.I have.
>>65170162>Well, short of you showing it up your arse or some suchAnon, this is a *Russian* warhead.It's probably been up an arse some time.
>>65170226That's not depleted uranium.
>>65170227It only matters in regards to the dosis you get if it's up your ass.
>>65170235>That's not depleted uranium.proof?
>>65169099because russia knows that they can't have it
>>65169037Sounds like retarded vatnig propaganda.
>>65170249>The R-60 missile incorporates a small yet powerful 3 kg (6.6 lb) tungsten expanding rod surrounding a high explosive fragmentation warhead, delivering a devastating impact on enemy targets.Because it's fucking tungsten.
Not to sound too much like a zigger but that's kust depleted uranium, everyone including ukraine is using it in ammunition.
>>65170288>Because it's fucking tungstenNot this one.
>>65169097It's Russian incompetence/corruption rather than on purpose. If they were attempting to 'dirty' their weapons with nukes, it would be in HE bombs, not small missiles.
I thought a steel rod would shatter like sand in an explosion, but it makes sense if a hard metal was used.
>>65170514Grey's law>Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice
>>65169164>Russia is not totally capable of ripping a lighthouse reactor off it's concrete pad and bolting it to a missile to lob at Ukraine (ideally).Right.
>>65170629Not in a short-range A2A missile they're not, try reading the thread.
>>65169029yeah R-60M's have depleted uranium frag rods you fucking retard, this has been known for several decades now, what's the big deal? the white phosphorus used in smoke munitions is arguably much worse for the environment yet i don't see people bitch about that
Hang on, why use DU in an anti-air missile? Aircraft aren't exactly known for being heavily armoured, tungsten should be more than sufficient for density.
>>65171209>yeah R-60M's have depleted uranium frag rods you fucking retard, this has been known for several decades now, what's the big deal?The Ukrainian air force said much the same thing this morning.
>>65171210because DU is cheaper than tungsten if you have a metric fuckton of reactors like the soviets did