Does anyone know if the russian are useing any ground drones? All ukranian (that i have seen) footage is focused exclusively on infantry. Did russia not get the memo that supply via motorcycle and truck are now outdated. Are the russians deploying any armed ground drones at all or is it exclusively a ukranian thing?
Those look expensive, why wouldn't the russians just send humans instead?
>>65170407only biological ground drones
>>65170411Arguebly humans are even more expensive, you have to pay a salary, you have to give them clothing weapons, food. The whole point of ukraines ground drones is cheap mass production much like regular aerial drones. Russia's manpower isn't infinate either unless putin declares a draft which would be deeply unpopular.
>>65170421Meanwhile IRL they die before receiving any of that and their equipment is just passed down to the next flesh drone. Basically the cost of the russian army is whatever they already had + a few packs of Cheetos per soldier
>>65170407Wasn't the footage of an M2 with SLAP rounds being put on a road and slicing up BTR?
>>65170433I believe the video you're refering to included an ukranian ground drone feel free to notify me if you find any footage at all of an ukranian drone striking a russian supply / armed ground drone.
>>65170407Yes, the Ukrainian Defense Ministry literally puts out a tally every day now for how many Russan UGVs they blew up. Look for the part that says GRC (ground robotic complex)
>>65170407>Does anyone know if the russian are useing any ground drones?You mean churkas?
Does anyone have that pic of a russian parade with what looks like UGVs, but they just have a soldier sitting on top of it with an igla or something?
>>65170407There was a recent report that the Russian Companies building Ground Drones are actually going bankrupt. The biggest problem is that these drones NEED starlink to function and now are worthless. There are apperantly like 2-5k of Russian ground drones just sitting in stockpile not being moved to the front bc they are useless atp.
>>65170491They could work with a fiber optic, but so far neither side has figured out how to maintain the connection without the wire getting damaged during the drive apparently
>>65170407Yes in fact Ukrainne started logging kills on them seperately in their own category21.05.2026Tanks — 11943Armored fighting vehicle — 24591 (+5)Artillery systems — 42454 (+54)MLRS — 1797 (+2)Anti-aircraft warfare — 1389 (+1)Planes — 436Helicopters — 353Ground robotic systems — 1436 (+4)UAV — 302787 (+1715)Cruise missiles — 4632Ships (boats) — 33Submarines — 2Cars and cisterns — 98070 (+202)Special equipment — 4207 (+1)Military personnel — aprx. 1352980 people (+910)>Ground robotic systems — 1436 (+4)
>>65170407>Does anyone know if the russian are useing any ground drones?Seems that way.
>>65171156>so far neither side has figured out how to maintain the connection without the wire getting damaged during the drive apparentlyFibre being vulnerable to treads has some funny outcomes.
>>65171197>Fibre being vulnerable to treads has some funny outcomesThat wasn't the clip I meant to post, this is.That one is a moto getting caught in fibre like it's razor wire.Then the drones come.This one is a UGV disabling a lurking FPV by doing donuts on its fibre.This will probably have saved the next Ukrainian logistics pickup that uses this road.
>>65171203UGVs sweeping ahead of friendly movements is probably the future
>>65170421>you have to give them foodlol>you have to give them weaponslmao even>you have to pay them salaryrfl perhaps?Anon, we are talking about Russian army here.As for the OP's question. Yes they tried but nothing really came out of it so far.https://sites.tufts.edu/fletcherrussia/russian-ugv-developments-influenced-by-ukraine-war/
>>65170491Why does the supply drones need low latency and video feed? I think you could easily create a system a system with the sattelites that russia already uses for geran drones. Most of ukranians supply are just ai driven and following cordinates until they reach the front line anyway.
>>65171223>why does something navigating over the ground in a warzone need realtime video feed, accuracy, and low latencyTruly it is a mystery.
>>65171281NTA but I can very much see systems slowly becoming more autonomous, so that not every single vehicle requires an operator with a low latency connection.Think two or three 'mule' types following a pre-set route with one operator keeping an eye on several such 'convoys'
>>65171286>Think two or three 'mule' types following a pre-set route with one operator keeping an eye on several such 'convoys'That seems somewhat plausible with a flying repeater/observation C&C drone.The problem is getting a self-driving UGV that can handle pot-holes, bodies, burning wrecks, lurking FPVs, mines, and all the other hazards they'd encounter along the way.This kind of AI is also years and years away from looking at a stretch of road and saying:>yeah, there's going to be pre-sighted artillery watching this, better do something elseAn operator right-clicking "deliver to here" does make some sense though but they'd need to micro it through the sketchy bits and not just hope the bot can handle the fog-of-war.
>>65171203Oh, so it was Ukrainian. I was waiting for a "unknown device, blyat"
Yes, however from what we’ve seen mostly for resupply.Ukrainians having access to starlink heavily increases viability of combat ground robotics engaging in combat without getting jammed
>>65171299I doubt onboard Ai will be on par for actual self driving for years. That requires expensive hardware and cameras, and you can'T really use radar or lidar in this context.I can see this appearing in bigger UGVs for CASEVAC, or maybe a 'mothership' scouting UGV that provides connectivity for operators to several FPV UGV/UAVs to find mines, booby traps, ambush FPVs etc.
>>65170421>Arguebly humans are even more expensivelmao
>>65170491Why starlink? What about their glorious Grok-ass or whatever satellite network? What about the implesive china craps?
>>65170407>ground dronesIn russia those are known as mobiks
>>65171353>I can see this appearing in bigger UGVs for CASEVACUkraine already does CASEVAC by UGVs.
>>65170421>you have to pay a salary,you're not thinking like an officer in the russian military. if they die before payday, you don't pay jack shit. better still, if they go "MIA" before payday but it doesn't get recorded officially, the paycheck still arrives in the company account.
>>65170411>>65170407the problem isn't cost it's that you need starlink to realistically get any range out of them. drones fly above all the junk that blocks signal
UGVs should've been a thing all the way back in 80s. Its shocking that they aren't big today. Even at short range, they're extremely useful. Its definitely be
>>65170421Anons are responding to you with jokes for the laffs, but you are correct, a human is more expensive. The thing is that turdies (and not only, a lot of states fall into this trap) are thinking of the cost of human soldiers like a piece of hardware, which is a mistake. Like when calculating the cost of building and fueling/maintaining a UGV or any other piece of hardware, they only think of the cost of a soldier at the point of conscripting/hiring him, the salary, the food, the clothes. But there still is the 20 years of costs of growing a person. There is the cost of what could've that person been doing instead of catching drones professionally. There is the cost of the children they could've had and raised for 20 years. It's like well over a century before a population can recover from that sort of lost value in a war. A military UVG has no other use except combat and calculating its cost is simple.
>>65170407Dutch army trials in austria, before 2022. Those themis ugvs by Estonian Milrem will soon also be build in NL at a VDL plant formerly producing bmws. And just yesterday a white paper came out announcing domestic manufacture of larger UGV to accompany new leopard2a8 tank unit.
>>65171521>the ziggers will get CUGSedI mean I know it's the clown timeline, but come on.
