AK General /akg/This edition is brought to you by Adidas>Thread #2097Old: >>65196277
>>652292801st for WASRs
>>65229563dey jus werk
>>65229280
how we feelin Virginians
Asking again for builder suggestions, I'm in PA.
Receiver and gas block mike at about .001 undersize, a good interference fit, while the front and rear sites are about half a thou oversize, will that be an issue? Consensus on old forum posts varies. Some say no problem, some say you need to knurl the barrel
>>65230603Ammo is so expensive I may sell my drum and buy a bunch of 5 and 10 rounders instead lol. Harder to magdump $70 worth of ammo in a range trip that way
>>65231456As long as you can't spin them by hand I wouldn't worry. If it's too loose, they can slip while drilling/installing pins. It's a bigger deal for the gas block since carbon can blow out the sides but as long as they don't rotate while pressing it's not the biggest deal in the world. >knurling I've done it a few times. Some people use an expensive hand knurling tool or a lathe, but you can get away peening the journal with an auto punch. The little divots have raised edges which can add 1-2 thousandths if you do it all the way around. Another option is to use a pipe cutter. This is a good option because you end up with concentric raised sections which is good for gas seals. IME most barrels are too hard to be scored by cheap pipe cutters though. If yours turns out to be loose I would just space out a few rings of punch marks. You wouldn't need a lot since you're already pretty close. Mask off the edges of your journal with masking tape so you don't punch the metal in a place that will be visible. The other thing you need to remember about knurling/peening is that you cannot uninstall the part without destroying the raised area and making it loose again. Once you have the part installed you need to leave it on because pressing it off will flatten the deformed metal thus undoing your work. pic rel is from a gas block swap that I did. The block was about 0.0015 oversized. I peened the bottom with an auto center punch so that the barrel would get pushed up against the port to seal better. This is a really extreme example and not something that I would do to someone else's gun, but it works in a pinch if you have no shame. Obviously, your barrel wouldn't need nearly as much, maybe 4-5 rings spaced out. Leave some good metal so you can re-knurl it in the event you have to press it off.
>>65231407Sorry don't know of any AK builder in PA but on the East Coast I can suggest CW gunwerks.
>>65231753Thanks, I only mentioned it because someone asked the last time I asked about builders but when I answered they were already gone. Just figured I would put it upfront. I guess it doesn't really matter where the builder is, just so long as they're good and aren't the most expensive.
Where can I buy zenitco?
>>65232377Try google
>>65232405Nigger, if google actually showed where to buy zenitco I wouldn't be asking you faggotrons.
Rate.
>>65232377https://en.zenitco.ru/:)
>>65232516Literally the first result
>>65232530Millennial hipster
>>65232377https://www.akstuff.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=95_78Oleg from AKStuff in Smyrna is probably the last few people I know who still has them listed for somewhat decent prices.
Frens, genuinely what is stopping Arsenal from producing 5.45 milled AKs like picrel?
Cucked
>>65233547Lack of interest. 5.45 is a dead cartridge outside of Russia.>>65233555It's hilarious how many people still fall for these tier list memes.
>>65233568IO Inc's reputation is well-deserved
Hey autists, I’m new to AK handling and need some holding techniques for yugo M70s or general AKM theory and useful info.Pretty please
>>65233625He's very r-ddit but just start watching Klayco47 on youtube if you want to see someone do fast drills and reloads on a shot timer.
>>65233625Just shoot the gun and you'll figure it out
>>65233543Spacibo Brat! :D
>>65231198Been here 4 years. I had plans to move to Florida and buy a house, they're just expedited now. Anyone who thinks the grandfather clause will last beyond the '27 legislative session needs to take a look at Rhode Island's current faggotry.
>>65233555I’ve never understood the Crackhead Fuller dick sucking. Rifle dynamics builds are just Romanian parts kits lmao
>>65231198>>65234432Florida wouldn't be a terrible move but you should stay out of South FL which is either highly ethnic neighborhoods where US born citizens can't speak English or 80 year old run HOA nazis. Florida surpassed my expectations and has let several of their idiotic gun control measures get struck out of court so they have open carry finally and I think getting rid of the 72 hr bgc but they're still anti bump stock/FRT and Red Flag happy. GA or AL would be good moves if you want to live somewhere where there just isn't an absolute fuck to give about gun laws but GA is looking more purple every election cycle do to ATL's negro Mecca status. I'm surprised RI stayed a bastion of ARs and normal mags as long as it did. Growing up there was a fucking hellscape of Karens and helicopter moms
>>65233555We need a newer version, WBP has dropped a ranked for sure.
>>65233625Like other anon said, Klayco reload video is very solid, there is AK union dude.
>>65233555checkedwhoever made this is a joke PSA is not in the same league as K USA. they cant get their trunnions right.. if you like to shoot their guns may kill you.
>>65234939
Happy Flag Day /akg/
page 8 bump
>>65238350Not sure if AI, also dude has a google pixel, depending on which iPhone model it is, I personally think it is a bad trade for an AMD.
>>65238500Right? If he had both blue grips, maybe.You can always get another IPhone. In Somaliland the AK might be way more valuable.
I broke down and got a pbs-1 and the 24mm and 26mm thread adapters.
>>65238670>a pbs-1A Wolverine, or?Is it even worth it to shoot $2 subs?26mm, huh. M92?
>>65234514Xoomer GWOT vets wanted a Noveske-tier guy for AKs to hero worship since buying of the rack WASRs and Saigas was seen as something only poorfags did back in the 2000's.>>65238894Not him, but I plan to experiment with spring weights to see if I can get those PPU subsonic 7.62x39 rounds to cycle in my M92+Wolverine.
Will we ever see sub $0.25 7.62x39 ever again? Maybe after the war in Ukraine is over r-ri-right?
>>65240036i feel like this is the 500000th time /k/ had this convo.i wouldn't doubt more bulgarian and serbian ammo being imported after the war, maybe some other countries that are sending ammo but russki stuff will never come back and the war solidified it. ppl were saying the new ATF director might let it in or some shit but i am extremely doubtful ngl
>>65240075>the primary selling point that made the ak appealing is never coming back. Deep down I know it. I just don't want to believe it, anon.
>>65238894>>65239907No, dipshit. I just ordered a REAL PBS-1. Are you retarded or just autistic?
>>65240036You should get the correct grip and correct flash hider.
>>65240839Sweet, where'd you find a real PBS-1?Wait, are you being sarcastic? I'm an autistic retard and can't pick up social cues like that.Nigger
>>65240036No.It makes me sad too anon. But we cannot lie to ourselves, it is not healthy. We need to live in the world of what is, not what ought to be.God bless.
>>652410565.56 and .308 are the future of AKs. Thankfully I’ve got enough 7.62x39 and 5.45 to last the rest of my natural life. Extremely grim for everyone except me.
>>65240113unfortunately anon unless were blessed with post soviet import bans lifted, the future is 223 AKs, and the future is now
>>65241221jinx
>>65241233You owe me a blowjob
I want to get a SAM7K on the sale but that picatinny rear rail is so gay. If I remove it what are my options for mounting a stock on it? After form 1 approval of course mr fed
>>65241415Not much. CNC warrior and Stormwerkz have options to mount their own proprietary stocks or ACE style stocks. I don't own an Arsenal, but I've used CNC warrior and ACE on my other AKs. I have no complaints. I don't think you can mount anything else without milling or welding from the looks of it
>>65231673NTA, but wanted to thank you for your effortposting anyways.
>>65229563
>>65238601Ia it possible to get this furnity nowadays?
>>65243402Put some tape over that Master mount logo, ruins the whole vibes.
I just can't fucking get an AK set up in a way that I like to the point that I think I might have to bite the bullet and buy a fucking AR and just use that as my main rifle and keep my aks for fun.
>>65244171first check to make sure you haven't had a stroke then go herehttps://armsofamerica.com/feg-complete-blue-fixed-stock-set-with-hardware-2-original-surplus-blue-grips/
Furniture arrived today
>>65245141That set is so hideous. I hate it but I still kinda want it for my AMD-65 kit.
Oh yeah, it's all coming together. Mock-up part 2 and I've almost got the furniture the way I want it.
>>65245479You seemed to have accidentally posted this is the wrong thread.>>65244676Or more appropriately >>65238527kthnxbai, fag
Anyone autistically smart about 24mm gas block FSBs? I have an SLR 107UR with 16" barrel I'm trying to SBR. It's hilariously overgassed. I'm assuming it won't need any gas port work.My question is, would a Smith need to remove the fsb? Or can I just have him saw it flush to the fsb? And crown it?Thoughts?
Does anyone know when WASRs or WBPs might be back in stock? How long have they taken in the past between restocks?
>>65241415Weld the tang back on
>>65246753>WeldThe lower tang is riveted on.
>>65238500I was offered an ak for 50$ in Nigeria. So no ak for iphone is bad deal
>>65246696>I'm assuming it won't need any gas port work.I've heard anecdotally that some rifles are so over gassed that it doesn't matter or that using a cone booster helps. However, I think the prevailing notion is that you'll have to press it off to remove the plug. Is your gunsmith local? If I were you, I'd ask your smith how much extra you'll have to pay for the FSB to be removed. If he wants hundreds of dollars extra, I would be tempted to pass on the port work to see if I get lucky. Pressing will also probably damage the paint on the FSB if that's something you care about. If a second trip is too much trouble/creates extra expenses, then just have him do all the work.>>65245479cool
>>65246699idk bro just find one lmao
>>65247156Yeah I'm taking it to a local Smith that is excellent for barrel threading and conventional gunsmith work / machining. But I'm not sure I trust him for "AK" work.I was hoping to get away with chopping the barrel with the FSB on and the receiver/front trunnion all still installed. Spinning the whole thing in a lathe
Thoughts /akg/? I though MDC was going to do right for us?
>>65247211>Spinning the whole thing in a latheLmao
>>65247461>Thoughts /akg/?Clay is a massive faggot.>I though MDC was going to do right for us?Oh you mean about Meridian?Yeah, no. lol. lmao even.
>>65245479
>>65247620Autism (the fun kind)
>>65246699https://atlanticfirearms.com/wbp-ak47-762sc-jack-classic-rifle
>>65247754I noticed right after posting, already bought 2.
>>65247461fucking hate klaycos voice so much
>>65247967i get that youre panic buying but you could save some money if you just got a pre-owned WBP or WASR. It would take a significantly retarded previous owner to fuck up a used AK to the point of repairs.
Does anyone have any kind of ideas how to remove a dent in the spine of a steel mag? In reality it needs to be beat onto a mandrel, but since I don't have one nor am I gonna blow $400+ to fix a couple $10 mags, I'm looking for a creative solution.>mag mandrel specs related
Is $1150 for an uncoverted, dimpled, Saiga sporter good in [current year]?
>>65251751Find a wrench that's wide enough to fit in the spine and then leverage it back into shape. I would brace the opposite side or clamp it in a vice, so you don't distort it. For dents in the center, you can pound a piece wood into it. Don't bother trying to curve it or anything crazy. I've fixed a couple of Galil mags that way.
>>65251945I feel I can never describe how it's bent properly. It dented "front to back" so I need something as "wide" as the mag.I've spooned plenty of other dents out, but these are not coming out without some serious force.>pic of said mag, with the direction and location of the dent.
>>65251797Unironically not great but not terrible.Over the last 3 months on the files (unconverted rifles):7 62x39 16" , $1.1k (still available)308 20", $1,150 (sold)5.45 16", $1.3 (sold)5.45 16" $1.5 (sold)You can try to jew him down to 1.1k but doubt any lower.Good luck
>be me in 2020>lost job>close to losing house>sold literally everything precious, actually not just precious, but literally everything I had but my smartphone, my fridge, and my bed>we are talking guns, ammo, magazines, rare WW2 memorbilia, crt tvs, crt monitors>have literally no guns now>fast forward, get amazing job, regained everything back but now it's time to stop being noguns and actually be in these threads againSorry for the faggy blogpost, but I have a burning question, and what I'm trying to covney is I'm on a hardcore journey to find what I am looking for. When I DID have my ak, I had a century arms one, but it always seemed so lame to me. When I compare the ones from here, they always seemed cooler, higher quality, more awesome but in a way I couldn't explain it. Maybe it's the metal, maybe it's because they are from a cool country. Is my guess correct that century arms just has dogshit crap metal? it didn't attract me for some reason. Is there an AK that you guys could recommend for me to feel and see the quality I'm looking for? Like I said, I have an incredibly small understanding of the AK world, but I want something sexy to look at. I hate all the AKs that the Dallas gun shops have. They all seem so fucking bland and boring. I want wooden furniture, I don't want a matte gritty looking metal, but something glossy and well made. Something to be proud of.I understand if nobody wants to spoon-feed me, but even if you could give me a country or a brand, hell anything to share, I'd massively appreciate it. I'm still so fucking mad I had to sell my banned chinese AK mags. Seriously, I fucking hate my memories.
>>65251797I sold a converted 5.45 Saiga and like 1500rds of ammo for $1300 I think
>>65252035I would think about making a small mandrel. Not the full mandrel but just a tiny slice of it. Would be pretty easy to shape it out of a wood or aluminum bar. Aluminum bar is about the same price as wood at Home Depot last, I checked. That will last longer but its more effort to cut depending on your tools.Take off the floor plate and then trace the bottom of your magazine onto your choice of material. Then cut out the mandrel. When you're trying to repair a ding/bend you actually have to stretch the metal beyond where it's supposed to be so the mandrel has to be pretty tight otherwise the dent will shrink back just shy of the surface. If your mandrel turns out to be too small to fully remove the dent you can wrap HVAC aluminum foil tape around it to increase its size. Smack the mandrel through with a dowel, socket extension or whatever. Had to do that a few times with my CETME receiver. My mandrel dowel was too small, so I had to add layers of foil tape each time I rammed it. >>65252598> I want wooden furniture, I don't want a matte gritty looking metal,You want a WASR I think
>>65252665wait sorry I completely misread that lol. WASRs are kind of gritty and matte in terms of finish.
>>65252669I got a genuine laugh though because the first thing I thought was >"that's a nice anon, I appreciate him">go to google>see the gritty matte finish on multiple photos>"oh, maybe he didn't read that part, or maybe these are just one-off photos"fucking kek.
>>65252598I think this is a good reference to what I'm looking for.
>>65252719NTA, but I think its funny that you still picked a Romanian AK, except that one is obviously a kit build UF. The question I'd ask is how much are you wanting/willing to spend on this "pretty" AK? You can always paint a WASR, you know.The phosphate finish is actually very good at taking paint.>excuse the post from rebbit, it was the easiest to find example
>>65252797I'd say 1k to 2.5k kek, and yeah, that is pretty ironic
>>65252719That's a Romanian kit build of some kind. As kit builds, they tend to be blued or have some kind of black oxide finish. They're usually done in small batches by a multitude of different manufactures so you can't really expect them to be available regularly. Atlantic, PSA, Arms of America do them occasionally or combine surplus with parts of their own making in the case of PSA. That's not an extensive list by any means that's a place to look. Alternatively, you could buy a parts kit, and have it sent to someone but that will be expensive and lengthy. FWIW I think WASRs are fine rifles. They're sort of the go-to option for a lot of people. As >>65252797said phosphate is a very good substrate for paint so long as you degrease it. A lot of militaries and professional builders opt to parkerize and then paint over it because it increases the adhesion ability.
>>65252810>kit build>I just learned they are military partsholy fuck, I thought it was just a meme to get my hands on something like that. I didn't know what to search for back then but I didn't know I was looking for a kit build. There was no other purpose other than thinking it would be cool to have one with such parts. I'd imagine the quality/style is a bit nicer than your typical soulless factory shat gun. I think I just hate factory rifles because I grew up with my dad and grandpa having such bland black fucking rifles. It's almost like I have a rebellion to a certain look of guns at this point. I can imagine kits are a bit pricey in comparison. Can I just give the parts to my local gunsmith, or is there more to it?
>>65252832>I'd imagine the quality/style is a bit nicer than your typical soulless factory shat gun.Quality depends on who builds it. Sometimes the parts are worn out or poorly fitted. Sometimes they were never issued so they're practically brand new. From a material standpoint milsurp parts are usually higher quality than commercial parts but you have to remember that these are still "factory shat" guns from decades ago. I have a milsurp Romanian under folder from the 60s that looks way nicer than my Romanian AKM from the 90s. You can also have fully functional brand-new parts that look like shit just because. It's a dice roll really. That's the downside of parts kit builds>Can I just give the parts to my local gunsmith, or is there more to it?No sadly. They take specialized tools and most gunsmiths aren't good for anything beyond assembling AR-15s and cerakoting. You'll have to ship it off to builder of your choosing.
>>65252897Hmm, yeah I've been reading the tools get crazy and the work is not for some idiot who can blow himself up. I'm definitely not that ignorant. I suppose I could just buy a kit that I like from a reputable seller. I'm not patient enough to wait from the long wait times people apparently have. As for the gamble on quality of parts, that's a shame but I really shouldn't expect more, as I went through the same things with mosins. I'll keep an eye out from the sources I was given earlier. Thanks anons.
Any AK you recommend that's in 5.56 and is decent to good budget option(definitely under 1000 bucks) also which is better a milled or stamped receiver?
>>65252801What you want is either a kit build Romanian like Arms of America and others sell, or something like a WBP Jack. Both are from old combloc countries so they look right, not like US made Century blandness or tactical gayness. One's got all the important parts from Romania, the other is a really well made commercial build from Poland using FB Radom barrel. Either way, get something from an old combloc country with a chrome lined barrel. Maybe a Bulgarian kit build AK74 or a Zastava M70 too
>>65252971Here's your options, only 1/4 are in stock right now. For some reason all AKs are out of stock mostly everywhere lately. I would just get the Pioneer 5.56 if I were you, it's fine most of the time. Or if you're ok with spending a little more than $1000, save up and get the WBP or the romanian kit build but they take 6 months to build and ship to you. That said, my PSA AK101 is shitty quality but shoots like a dream. One of my rivets can fit paper underneath though and that's not good lolhttps://atlanticfirearms.com/pioneer-arms-5-56-ak47-pol-ak-s-556-ft-whttps://atlanticfirearms.com/wbp-556sr-jack-riflehttps://armsofamerica.com/aoa-romanian-md-63-5-56-45-akm-battlefield-build-kns-adjustable-gas-system/https://palmettostatearmory.com/ak-47/ak-100-series/ak-101.html
>>65252971stamped and milled are equally good. Milled is heavier and more expensive and the "older" style. Milled often have a smoother action when cycling the action with your hand. Those are the Arsenal guns from Bulgaria and a few others. Stamped is lighter and cheaper and "newer" style. Most rifles are stamped.
>>65252611>>65252265Ty for the insight anons. Would it being a 223 model change the value at all?
>>65248203klayco exudes reddit
>>65252971Save up $500 and get a SAM5 before the sale ends.
>>65252971For your price range I'd prob get the pioneer or step up to a jack.
>>65253081thanks anon.
>>65252971your options are:NOTHING there are NO OPTIONS for under 1000 dollars. SAVE YOUR MONEY BITCH
>>65246784Yeah that too. I was talking about the upper tang though
>>65253120Thank you
>>652531203 of those are trash>>65253265Excellent>>65253600Both trash>>65253998Real
Retard here.Am I going to regret buying a Norinco AK? Are they poopoo?
>>65255576ak in question
>>65255601oof I'm retarded, but I'll just post some AKs people are selling in my area: Norinco MAK-90Excellent condition and very well cared for. Includes (2) original 5 rounder Chinese magazines.
>>65255613another
>>65255619Meatloaf hand guard, who thought it was a good idea to put those hideous hand guard.
>>65255911And if a Norinco mak 90 doesn't have the "meatloaf" hand guard, or actually, let's just talk about the guts. Is it a reliable gun, in your opinion?
>>65255924>reliableReliable in what way? Chinese (polytech,norinco) AKs are solid and will outlive you, but if you're looking for performance such as tight groupings, tourneys, HD, you are looking in the wrong place and should look at /arg/.
>>65253204Probably more than the 7 62x39 and .308 but less than the 5.45 (most desirable Saiga).Are you going to have it converted? Be aware that will add a significant amount to the cost. Thankfully there are many more sources for AK-100 series conversion parts these days. Gunsmith costs are usually reasonable but still like $500 for a conversion if you provide the parts.
>>65253204>>65255977But the end result is worth itNot my pic
>>65255977why 5.45? hasnt that dried up? are they only valuable because of ak74m clone autism?
talk me out of it>AR-47 lower >side charging upper>piston system
>>65255977Honestly if the price for the rifle + conversion is less than $2k I'd prefer it over a Meridian 101 given people are reporting accuracy issues with theirs. Would those Azerbaijani parts be okay for the conversion, or should I just get some Bulgarian parts?>>65255988Yeah that looks great, exactly what I'd want. Except I'd want to run a 5.5 triangle folder instead of that version of the folder. It is kind of stupid, but I wanna clone a build I use in the SPT-AKI mod for Tarkov. I had a 101 for so long I repaired it twice from Mechanic before I 'retired' that gun and bought a new one.
>>65256389Yes and yes. >>65256485Can't speak to the Azerbaijani parts but they are available so that's enough for me. It'll have a 5.5mm trunnion so go nuts
>>65256434I love weird shit too
What is the possibility of receiving AK milsurp after the Ukraine-Russian war? I don't remember any milsurp being exported from Iraq, I would think ukies would want to upgrade from the AK platform if they ever want to become part of Nato?
>>652566770%. Know why? Because the 2028 presidential election is gonna swing further left than how the 2024 one swung right. The next president is probably gonna be Newsome and that nigga is gonna implement the AWB that the demoness Feinstein wanted to but couldn't.
>>65253265>SAM510 fucking pound 556 rifle
>>65256901You ok noodle boy ? what's the matter ? afraid of lifting something ?
>>65256901is it any heavier than an M90 lol
>>65256551Cool. How'd you get the wood finish?
Someone is selling this:"I have a numbers matching Romanian G Kit Build. The gun is very tight, rivets are very nice and there is no slop in the mag well. Original barrel, OOW receiver, Tapco G2 trigger, one mag, nice Romanian bayonet, cleaning rod and butt stock cleaning kit, and sight pusher included"I'm debating, lads. It's ROMANIAN
>>65257094Price?
>>65255576Norinco AKs aren't exactly bad, but you have to remember that they haven't been imported in like 30 years. They are collector's items at this point. So not only are you buying a gun that has spent 30 years being shot or rusting away in bubba's attic, but there is also little aftermarket support since Chinese AKs aren't a 1:1 to regular Warsaw Pact spec AKMs like the WASR-10 or WBP's guns. On top of all this, Chinese AKs were blued rather than parkerized or painted. Bluing looks good, but it's actually one of the worst firearm finishes in terms of durability and rust prevention. Unless you really want a Chinese AK for your collection, I would just buy a WASR, WBP, or Zastava M70 off the shelf and not think too hard about it.
>>65257172$1200, what do you think anon?
>>65257185It's on the higher end, but that's not a god awful price. Is that in you budget? 7.62x39 isn't exactly inexpensive anymore, so factor that into getting started. That $1200 turns into almost $2k real quick with a case of ammo/some extra mags.
>>65257219Yeah, it's strange because I've been gifted exactly $1200 from my boss for my birthday, and I just want to buy a gun with it. That, or I should save for something I truly want, like an uzi or an mp5k. I dunno, man. If I had to choose between the three, I feel like an AK is more important to have out of the three. I'm so on the fence. It sucks because I'm hyper aware of the bullshit going on with Russia that ammo skyrocketed. We don't even get imports of ammo tins from them anymore, right? Fucking hell.I miss when I knew that boxes of surplus cosmoline dripping boxes would flow from Russia and into USA. It sucks ass with everything going on.
Clapped out maadi with dong and weird ring sights at lgs for 750Should I?
Gotta love when you get outbid on Fuddjoker by an account that is three days old.
>>65256434I had this exact idea but with CSSpecs 6.5 Grendel AK mags and a homebrew 6.5 Grendel upperYou'd need to trim the upper though for AK mags unless you specifically get one cut for them; they're wider than AR uppers are meant to accept, but otherwise it works just fine.FM Products (I think that's the company name? It's Foxtrot Mike) used to make an entire bufferless AR that feeds from 5.56 AK mags, so you could even start there if you find a stripped lower secondhand (they used to sell the lowers, but the entire product line appears to be discontinued now).>>65257093NTA but there's a lot of online tutorials for a faux wood look on plastic parts, it's usually in 3d printing and cosplay spaces though.It's usually a light brown undercoat (or a light plastic like tan), then a few alcohol inks (reddish, brown or orange colors all mixed) to give a fake grain that is then brushed on, then a clearcoat (optional, alcohol inks don't run unless you pour alcohol on them).
>>65233555>valmetThe milled ones are nice and all but I question its inclusion as an overpriced and scarce museum brand
>>65229280Tactical advance over boots?
>>65257524Sure why not
>>65252265the fuckin SAIGA spammers are hilarious. the only reason people think theyre worth the money is because somebody told them theyre worth the money so they went and bought one, and then to justify their purchase they go tell 4chan about how the SAIGA is the best rifle and such a GREAT DEAL at EIGHTEEN HUNDREDS DOLLARS FOR AN UNCONVERTED SPORTER! So what if its just a basic bitch SPORTER with mediocre build quality and CAST components, its RUSSIAN! KC IS IZHMASH TOO SO ITS LIKE THE EXACT SAME THING! Just admit that you got into the AK game too late and that youre paying $1400 more than you should be paying for literally no reason, REDDIT is jewing you but you dont want to admit it because you dont want to see like a retard for paying over $400 for a featureless rifle
>>65257314>like an uzi or an mp5kLike one of those IWI Uzi pro? A real Uzi is out of that $1200 price range, one of theose turkish/paki mp5 clones would make a solid addition and 9mm is cheap compared to 762.
>>65258179You should see the idiots that bought those shitty saiga conversions that AOA was selling.
>>65258954The Gungeeks ones?
>>65234868It’s really weird to me that Michigan is FRT friendly while Florida isn’t. With how gay our laws are up here in the mitten you’d think it’d be the opposite
>>65258179I missed this pasta, thank you anon.>>65257093The color is shopped, they're actually black right now. I don't think I'll be painting this exact set of furniture because I need to redesign the handguards a bit. They're close to being done but the geometry isn't right.>>65257094>>652571851.2 is too high imo. 1k would be fair.
>>65257524If its a MISR-90 it's an automatic Do Not Buy.You can tell immediately by the front trunnion rivet pattern. If it has an AKM pattern then it's not a MISR-90, if it has Chinese AK pattern the it is and should be avoided.
WBP is making an AR now lol
>>65258985>he's not subscribed to the WBP YouTube channel and didn't see the tacky video showing it ages agongmi
>>65258985>>65258993Pioneer Arms did one too, everyone does they ain't special.
MAK90!https://files.catbox.moe/1s4igg.mp4
>>65259285Looking at that closer, I'm retarded and it appears to be a Hungarian SA-85.
>>65259048ew
>>65256908acting like a 556 rifle the same weight as a fal isn't goofy>>65257017oh id buy the arsenal over the yugo
>>65259881bro arent there a bunch of cases of Arsenal 5.56 guns being shite? I remember lots of people having firing pin issues and bad deformations in areas. And no, i'm not talking about WBPs and Pioneers
r8 my ak
>>65262357>>>/po/ outta 10
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>>65262306First time I think I've seen green furniture. Looks good
>>65262384wdym? its a WBP
>>65262640>WBP>has a hooded FSBChy-na
I wasn't expecting red.
Is Eastwavenet the best way to import stuff like the PK-01VS to the USA without getting it stolen by customs?
>>65263805Xinnie the Pooh must have ran out of green emitters, intradesting>>65264293Order from that one Canadian site, forget the name but they're not gonna get hassled by customs nearly as badly as packages coming from Durkadurkastan
>>65263805they make some red variant too, they also have an other version with the reticle being two circles and a dot in the middle
>>65257934soviet boots a shit, sneakers also shit but lighter, let feet breathe and cost nothing to replace when they break.
>>65264406It was labeled as green so I was was just surprised. I actually like this better.>>65264420Dot only too. Picrel.
>>65264518Anyway I bought one to try and kill it.
>>65264523>>65264518>>65264406Has anyone verified these actually hold zero? The lack of AR coating is absolutely terrible.
>>65265352I guess let you know in a few weeks. I'm getting everything together for a 500 round gang bang for it. Then I'll see if the zero held (I'll zero it with slugs at 50). If it lives I'll try fucking around with it on my 104.
>>65264518I wonder if you can buy the emitters like you can with a CMORE. They have to be out there on some obscure Chinese web industrial store
>>65265352>will they hold zeroI imagine some will and some won't, probably 50/50 maybe 60/40 will to won't. Chinkshit isn't bad by default but QC is hilariously nonexistent. That's where the money gets saved after all.Fwiw it lives on my WASR so less recoil than a shotgun, more than a 5.45.
>>65265824brrootthhheerrrr>>65266061How has zero been?
>>65266079Couldn't tell ya I haven't been to the range in months.Plumbing is expensive work. Really eats into the ammo budget.
Two SAM7SF questions. The ambi selector throws me off. Can I fit a retaining plate into it? Will surplus milled FCGs work?
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Considering converting a Saiga 308-1 to an AK-308, no folding stock though I'm not really worried about that.Anyone aware of which 100-series parts will and won't be compatible? The Saiga 308 has a thicc barrel
Got the rest of my ammo loved upstairs.
>>65270869>Got the rest of my ammo loved upstairs.Did you hump it up the stairs?
>>65270915Humped them good.
>>65269571Where are you even going to get one?>t. passed on a Molot VEPR pre-Covid and still kick myself for it
>he doesnt have a plum dust cover
>>65271768wdhmbt
>>65270947Nice PSA krink.
>>65270958A .308 Saiga? I bought one just before my gay state banned cool guns.I've cooled off on it over the few years I've owned it and if my state wasn't so gay I'd just sell/trade it for a G3 clone. I'd then get something like a Vepr 308/54r and get the easily available SVD clone furniture for it. That's what I wanted from this to begin with but it's been a struggle to get a proper stock and I'm not proficient in CAD yet to make one myself.I was lucky enough to get an Ironwood handguard before Matt passed away (RIP) but I missed out on a stock. So now I'm floating between the 3 I have: the PSL one you see here, the black polymer one that you saw on ban-era MAK-90s and Maadis (which would be perfect if it were wood desu), or a Rhineland Arms PSL stock I modified but broke on the first range trip. The latter I still have and am disappointed it didn't work but I feel it could potentially work if I tried again. The break isn't in the stock itself, I carved an insert and glued it in, then shellacked over the top. That insert is what broke so I could theoretically remove it and try again.
>>65272502Rhineland stock insert
>>65272504Break, similar on other side.To remedy this I would attempt to create more space on the inside as I'm sure the recoil pressed the rear of the receiver up against the wood and cracked where it was glued. I should have measured better but whaddyagonnado.
>>65272502And that black polymer one for comparison. Note in this picture how there's material where the webbing of your thumb would be, that's what the wood insert was attempting to replicate. The polymer stock has basically a shelf that the receiver rests inside of which is idea in this application. Also notice the original look of the Rhineland stock before I applied the insert and finish. Walnut wouldn't be my first choice but it turned out fine. Doesn't match the Ironwood handguard at all unfortunately
>>65272515You got a dremel? Make a duplicator table already and remake that polymer stock.
>>65272636>dremel?Yes a fewStock duplicator, never thought to do it. I'd bet there are 3d print files out there too
>>65253234In his defense he was making videos for a while before reddit caught onto him and made him their trendsetter. Bob Sled used to be the AK god of reddit before Klayco.
>>65272636On this subject: does anyone know of a company offering duplicator services? There's a company selling a gunstock duplicator machine for $10K. I'd imagine someone buying that had the intention of making money from it.
>>65273085>never thought to do itI told this in Jan of '25, negro.Unless there's some other Anon with a Saiganov that looks exactly the same...>>65273448Matt at Ironwood was about the only one I knew doing that kind of thing, especially the more esoteric stuff. But maybe hit up one of the current custom AK furniture makers and see? APS Firearms, Kalashnicarver, W.A.S Wood, Combloc Customs all seem to offer some sort of custom made stuff. A couple of them even have a specific listing for a one off special order.There's always this, but I'm not sure if it's the look you're looking for.https://www.kalashnicarver.com/SVD-Dragunov-Style-Stock-AKM-Rifles-p680874186
>>65273556Better memory than me, thank you anon I appreciate you. Saved that screenshot. Gonna add it to my list of woodworking projects since I've got access to a professional shop now
>>65272297Thanks!
I bought a SAM5, SAM7SF and SAM7K on this sale.
>>65274237Whilst I appreciate your appreciation, it's not necessary; just trying to help you figure out a solution that matches your skillset, monetary situation, and most importantly the vibe you're trying to achieve. If someone told me something that wasn't in my wheelhouse, I'd more than likely dismiss it and/or forget it, as well. Eventually you'll find a stock that's satisfactory.
>>65275653
>>65275731Good guns on sale for used prices. I pressed a 74 fsp and welded up the huge gas port on the SAM5. Gonna form 1 the k and put a cnc folding stock on it
>>65275727Thank you anon, God bless
I got a Tantal safety off of GB and put it in my Beryl. Night and day difference how the rifle feels. Also the Beryl safety was hilariously bent in comparison to the Tantal one.
.300 Blackout M85 status? Surely the Serbs won't curse us to having to rely on Poverty State for an AK pistol in Blackout, ri-right?
>>65277937>.300 African-American out in any country outside of the USwhew
>>65277937You'd have more luck getting 6.5 Grendel out of Zastava, they already produce rifles in it.300blk is NOT a thing outside of America for the most part, a couple Euro countries tested it and passed on it like a decade ago (when GIGN adopted the 7.62x39 Bren 2), they're currently all looking at 6ARC and 6.5 Grendel (because GIGN adopted the Beretta NARP in 6.5 Grendel).
>>65277943>>65277955Unless I was just hallucinating, they had a prototype at Shot Show and said it would be ready sometime this year
>>65277965You're rightThe brainspace for "Zastava SHOT Show 2026" was taken up by the M84 for me, so I brushed over itI figure they'll start coming in around Q3 start, so you won't see them on-market until Black Friday at the earliest, most likely spring/summer 2027, assuming nothing else happens to Serbian exports (or imports).Now I got my own hopes up for a 6.5 Grendel production AK and I'm sad
>>65277976>6.5 GrundleThat was already a thing, but Molot got banned before any significant amount made it here.
>>65278016Yea, that's why I want Zastava to make 6.5 Grendel AKs; they're already tooled for it on the .mil side of the company, so it'd just be a case of making a production line.I missed the boat on a 6.5 Grendel Vepr and don't want to pay the boomer tax
>>65277976If it makes you feel any better, my ultimate pipedream for it is that it gets another one of the Groza cope kits
>>65278032>tfw no .243 Vepr>picrel was for sale in OR about a year after WA did the big gaySad!
>>65277815Is it a left side selector? Whats the difference?
>>65278039>Groza cope kitYou could probably make it work with a Dremel and a large spacer. The lower HG is held on with a barrel clamp. The krink handguard is a bit shorter than the M85, so you'd have to make something like a really thick washer to go in between the handguard retainer and handguard. If you have a drill press you could make it out of aluminum round stock. The carry handle is only held on by a screw that goes into the front sight post. The back of the carry handle just slips over the hinge block and gets held in place by spring tension. I think the M85 gas tube is lightly longer so the shorter carry handle might not clear your upper handguard, but it could be trimmed with a Dremel. I don't own an m85, but I'd be tempted to try it. I'm already looking at ways to fit it onto other stuff like my lynx or JTS
Also, I don't think you'd have to modify the internal parts at all. AFAIK Yugo and AKM receivers are the same length so the distance between the FCG is identical so long as you ditch the rear handguard ferrule on the M85. You can use the same trigger linkage
>>65278446I wouldn't be too worried about the handguard pieces slotting in (although like you said, I'd probably need a spacer not to mention having to alter it to actually connect to a Yugo). My biggest concern would be the extended gas tube making the handle not line up properly. I'm worried that the extra length would be too much to fix even with a dremel. That's not even mentioning that I'm just basing this off current M85 gas system, which will need be altered to accommodate the caliber swap, so there's no real way to know for certain what I'd need to do until I had both the gun and the kit in my hands
>>65278389No, most of the Beryls production run it has had a shelf added to the safety lever. Early Beryls just used a Tantal safety lever.
This whole General for the last decade is for Boomers to talk to little boys in skirts about over priced parts kits. Its JOEVER.
Anyone have the guide for understanding Arsenal model nomenclature? I'm aware of CR, UR, PR, but not sure what they mean?
>>65280574Not aware of any guide per se, but here>SAM = Semi Auto, Milled>SLR = Self Loading Rifle
lol, WBP's website is uber fucked for some reason.
>>65281366thank you
>>65281593kek, I always knew their AKs are subpar, and they turn to selling steroids to recuperate the costs.
>>65281593>for some reasonLooks like they stopped paying for it and someone else bought the domainOr whoever they're paying for webdev is a clown and got the site compromisedEither way not a good look and should worry you about WBP products and availability of them
>>65281593Seems like it's only the US version/page is fucked. wbprogow.com still comes up, but if you click on the US Market, now it's just 500 server error.>Commercial grade websiteThat's a shame
>>65229280He'll yea borther
>>65279843Oh neat. I just shot my Beryl at a night match tonight. It did outstanding. I love that gun so much.
>>65277937>>65277955>>65277965>>65277976I'm pretty sure I saw a video from Shot where they were talking about it. I would kill for a quality euro spec chrome lined 300blk AK. It really is a shame and offensive just how much PSA has shit in the pool. I like 300blk a lot, and honestly a quality 300blk Krink would be so sick, especially if it had a low profile visually unassuming two or 3 position gas adjuster for quickly going between subs and supers. One can hope.
>>65283391never gonna happen wuggy, go shoot at your friends again
>>65240036The endless Jew conflicts have dried up the cold war surplus. If you look at rifle calibers they're approximately priced by material cost that goes into them. It's the unfortunate truth.
>>65283391Idk you still bother hiding your face. Did you think we were gonna forget? It's like you think we have brain damage
>>65284889We never forgetWe never forgiveWe are... Anonymous
>>65284657>cold war surplusNoTulammo, Wolf and Golden Tiger weren't "Cold War surplus," they were new production from Russian ammo plants. Their market share (like 40% of ammo sold in 2021 was from Russia) was forcibly discontinued by sanctions. You missed this part, which is the most important when talking about AKs and ammo prices.It's supply/demand, all economics is. The supply of ammo was forcibly capped by the government blocking imports from Russia (and China in the 90s), but demand stayed the same, so prices skyrocketed. Why American mfgs don't upscale their capabilities to meet demand is simple to explain as well: market volatility.Watching gun companies in the US since 2020 showed a massive amount of over-investment that's killing those companies (Aero, Del-Ton, etc) now that conditions changed. The ammo mfgs appear to be the opposite extreme of being over-conservative with expenditures and refusing to take risks.
>>65284889Kek
>>65286109true, dunno what the fuck that anon was talking about
>>65286109>massive amount of over-investment that's killing those companies (Aero, Del-Ton, etc)Is that what happened? They thought covidbux demand was going to make line go up forever? Sheeeeit
>>65287908>They thought covidbux demand was going to make line go up forever?Yes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_bubbleIt's almost identical to the Craft Beer bubble that has since burst. Kind of funny actually.
>>65287908Yea, it happened to just about every industry I've paid any sort of attention to (guns as I mentioned, video game studios like Bungie or even publishers like Sony/MS, shipping companies like UPS, etc). Ammo is the only industry I've seen that at-large didn't really act like the line would go up forever, when it absolutely did and they should have invested in expanded production.I don't blame them though, one election going badly or safety precautions being shirked (and causing a plant to kaboom) and their "new investment" may kill the company, so being overly cautious is a given.RIP $30 Anderson lowers, the worst casualty of bad market planning.
Wednesday My dudes!
>>65292250Shame what you did to that grip to get the wrong screw to work.Nigger behavior
Pawnshop find. Also had 19 MREs which i use for work (security) for 50$.There several decent pawn and gun shops within a 40min drive i hit up on a regular basis. Just in time for the FRT Ak74
>>65292816Sweet, how many credits did it set you back?>tfw paid $475 OTD for this at my local pawn awhile back, felt badman.
>>65292816Oh it's on the picture, I'm blind as fuck apparently. 400 is great nice job
>>65292637>oh no! he modified a heckin screw! =O
>>65293287>Shame what you did to that gripReading comprehension
>>65293287>drilling out a grip is modifying a screwEven if it's just a shaved down screw, it's still niggardly. Buy the correct parts nigger.
>>65293334Especially when the correct part literally costs $3.99 (at AoA at least)Ruin a grip or spend $4
>>65292816Some dude locally has 2 tins of 5.45, I offered him $800 for both and he scoffed at me. Didn't even counter. This was over 2 months ago and they still haven't sold lol
>>65292637Except it came like that retard. Go be a nigger somewhere else
>>65293314>>65293334>>65293338faggotry like this is why we can't have nice things.
>>65293338You can also make them out of partially threaded M6x1 hex bolts. I didn't feel like paying for shipping once, so I bought a few from the hardware store and rounded the heads off in my drill press then filed a screwdriver slot in the head.
>>65293338The romanians made 500 trillion shitty pistol grips, who gives a fuck. Its not like he ground up a fukken green bakelite border guard grip you autist
>>65295182How many Mosins exist? It's the third-most produced rifle ever. What prices do you see them selling at recently? How much are they actually worth? How many 98 pattern Mausers? Same line of reasoning, but 2nd-most produced rifle ever."There's a bunch of them out there" doesn't mean you should butcher the ones that you DO have, because eventually there won't be more to get, and then prices skyrocket. Why expedite that process, instead of taking care of things and trying to preserve what we DO have for the future, both for ourselves and those that come after us?Especially when "taking care" in this case costs less than $5 to either get the proper screw or to fabricate one from an M6 as >>65294982 said.
>>65295213Romanian pistol grips suck, impressed/reverse checkering is gay. I dont care if they'll be worth $70 in 2030. Fuck em.
>>65234432Stop fuckinf moving to floridaIt's red enough, go somewhere else
>>65295213milsurp in general has only become valuable because of a very recent paradigm shift in what is considered valuable. you can probably pick up an all original (albeit percussion) 1850s-90s tennessee rifle for the same price as a refurb mosin. do they really have the same value? all im saying is that value is relative, and what people consider valuable now may not necessarily be valuable in the long term future
>>65295291>value is relative, and what people consider valuable now may not necessarily be valuable in the long term futureSure, but scarcity plays into value as well, and is a variable that is directly controllable by an individual's actions in maintaining the item in its "optimal value" (for surplus items, as-issued) condition. Other peoples' perceptions of value are not controllable by you, only the condition of the item and the quantity of items.On the BP gun point, ease of use also matters, which is a non-zero part of why black powder surp rifles are usually a bit cheaper as a whole (despite the historical significance and lack of paperwork) than smokeless surp, even if the BP gun is in better condition overall.
>>65295316i just think that the current value of milsurps are artificially inflated between scalping boomers and millenizoomers who want the call of battlefield emeny at the gates etc. rifle. once the boomers die off and ww2 truly leaves the public consciousness i think the average century billboard surp rifle will be no more valuable than its contemporary sporting rifle/shotgun
>>65295368>ww2 truly leaves the public consciousnessWill never happen because kikes will never let the holocaust myth die. Have you not noticed that holocaust "survivors" get younger and younger every year?
I hated the stock at first but I like it now.
the stock screw doesn't fit in the countersink of my surplus bakelite gripdo I turn the head of the screw down in a lathe or make the countersink larger?
>>65299966Buy the correct screw. That's not "stock" it's just a screw, likely to use on Century's US made grip which has a larger countersunk hole, iirc.
>>65297406its beautiful cause it works, i love that my handguards dont get hot and i never need to wear gloves
>>65300840>>65300846I seent it, fag.
AKcurious here. I have a lot of guns and have been shooting for decades. However, I've never owned or even shot an AK. I decided that it'd be cool to get one to fuck around with. Can I get a QRD on the best entry points? I get the emails from Atlantic each week and they seem like they always have a bunch in stock. Any brands or models to avoid? Is getting just the receiver and building out my own smart, or will I run into crazy tolerance stacking? How well do they suppress.Sorry for being a newfag!
>>65300954
>>65300954Do not buy:PSA PioneerIO IncRileyWBPBuy:WASRZastavaArsenal Nice quality kit builds done rightIn order to build your own you'll need to be an actual gunsmith or fairly mechanically inclined. Knowing what dimensional spec is necessary for a correct hydraulic press fit and knowing how to measure that precisely for example isn't exactly "easy" per se. It isn't hard either, but it is something to be aware of. They suppress okay especially with a KNS adjustable piston, and a lower back pressure.You really can't go wrong with a WASR 10 plus some surplus furniture. Check that the front sight post isn't canted (straight up and down when you look down the sights) and that the magwell fits mags well without being too tight or having too much wobble. Picture related. WASRs are just good. Do not listen to faggot gay tranny redditors that suggest WBP. WBP is a small commercial shop that employs maybe 80-100 people top and using CNC machines to churn out piece of shit trash commercial spec AKs that are NOT metallurgically nor in terms of manufacturing process the same thing as a real deal military quality AK. WASRs on the other hand are made by ROMARM Cugir which is the state level and state funded military armament factory of the Romanian which employs thousands of people and sells actual machine guns to actual militaries. WBP faggots seethe and cope. The irony is a WASR will be cheaper than a WBP too lol. WASR pic related.
Happy Independence Day, /akg/
>>65301015>>65301679So a WASR 10 is a good no brainer entry? Looks like the wood one is sold out everywhere online. Do these typically get imported in waves? When might I see more?
>>65302850WASR10, any Zastava, Arsenal, and WBP Jack(in 762) are all good options, dont listen to the tripfag about wbp hes on a crusade but theyre good AKs.
>>65302850also dont get these >>65302874 us palm mags, they suck ass
>>65301679>cugir goodWhat's going on with this one then? It says made by cugir but it looks like a retard built it
>>65302850>Do these typically get imported in waves?Yes>When might I see more?Who knows? Could be a week, could be 2 years.There's a few on GoBroker that are fairly reasonably priced.My advice? Start buying mags and furniture now, if you're 100% on buying a WASR.>>65302919Clearly, a kit someone built.
I ordered one of those zastava part kit M70AB2s
>>65302982>Clearly, a kit someone builtFor Cugirs sake I hope so because this makes it look like their factory is run by retards.
>>65302874>theyre good AKsAre they? Just because Wuggys retarded doesn't make him wrong.They are commercial grade AKs, whether or not they're bad isn't on me to decide. Caveat Emptor. I won't buy one personally, but not for the reasons he won't.>WBPfags are as soft as their AKs :)
>>65303024there are literally like 2 images of broken WBP bolts and less than a dozen reported cases anon, doesnt make it a bad AK no matter how many times you turn off your trip
>>65302988Nice.
>>65303026Ive only ever seen the two pics on reddit and occasional mushrooming. Would be interested in the other reports if you have them
>>65303026I'm not Wuggy, nigger no matter how much you have to cope about it.I never said they were bad. They're what poorfags think a richfag AK is supposed to look like.Post your WBP since it's so nice.>Like I said, soft as baby shit lel.
>>65303092yeah man you just heavily implied theyre shit lol
>>65303131They're not Ethiopian tier, but they'll be commercial grade forever.If you want to argue why/if that matters then I'd tell you to yell at Wugs, but as a principle you shouldn't feed tripfags (You)s.Enjoy your WBP commercial grade rifle ;^)
>>65302919>>65302982if im not mistaken that kit was built by the loud mouth trip fag you're replying to>>65301679>Buy:>Zastavacompany voids warranty and any responsibility if you modify it aftermarket because that screams quality, yea lets avoid wbp guys
>>65302988Very nice, I'm still waiting for my builder to put mine together. I got one of the VG kits from Rapex and like 6 Yugo barrels from Centerfire and used the best one. I'm really excited to see these barreled kits coming in.
>>65301679Where did you get that wood?
>>65302988They're a good buy for 8-900. Every builder is charging like 500 in labor now
>>65302850>wood one is sold out everywhereThat is fine the wood that they come with generally is very poor quality. This is one of the reason why reddit tranny faggot soi fucks like WBP guns is that they arguably do come with some decent european laminate wood furniture. The joke is though if you're not a ywnbaw tranny faggot, swapping AK furniture is a matter of a screw driver and 10 minutes... so just buy whatever WASR you can get a good deal on and that meets those other criteria (magwell fitment and sights being canted) and put some furniture on yourself. >imported in wavesI don't know, but probably? Check gunbroker? >>65302874>>65302850>good AKs>Doesn't use the military technical specs for metallurgy, finish treatments, manufacturing techniques, and is made by a tiny commercial shop specifically spun up to export to the civilian US marketJesus christ. >>65302919Old build, done poorly. Simple as that. >>65303255>voids warrantyThey're just being jewish and trying to improve their bottom line, but Zastava is descended from the state arms factory of Serbia which has its roots back in the year 1852... What the fuck is WBP again? >>65304201Ironically enough that wood in the picture is Romanian wood from back when 922R compliance was being met in other ways I believe. Early 2000s WASRs were coming in with legit Romanian wood. But just look around gunbroker, desertfoxsales, AKoptions, Apexgunparts, AKfiles etc etc and you can find furniture easily.
>>65305221kill yourself redditor
>>65302850https://guns.bridgeportequip.com/product/century-ri4313n-wasr-7.62x39mm-16.25-301-black-black-synthetic-stock-black-polymer-griphttps://rangeusa.com/product/wasr-10-v2-7.62x39-poly-301or just get a used one on akfiles, arfcom or your local gun boards
What's a good substitute for Wolf 8M3?
>>65305315Hornady Black SST maybe. There's no real replacement for 8m3 other than more 8m3.
>>65229280Is trading a russian SKS for a WASR or something a reasonable goal in le current year?
>>65305388It's retarded, but probably doable. I don't know why you'd want to trade a top tier SKS for a basic bitch AK but monetarily, they're approximately in the same bracket.My advice would be keep the SKS, and save your pennies to just buy a WASR.
>>65305405Yeah I guess I was a bit let down because qualitatively I think the chinese ones I had were actually nicer than the Russian. Its not so much a money thing but more so I'm running out of space in my collection (its only about 13 long guns and 5 pistols) but I move a lot for work so I'm just considering it.
>>65305385I need 8M3 so bad
>>65246784I need one of these for my slr 95, who has them in stock or where can i get one?
Got a pioneer arms 556 and I like it a lot the fit and finish is nice. I will see how it will go with mine hopefully it last a good while.
>>65305496Does country of origin matter? If not for autism sake, for fitment sake?Sorry no milled guns, so I'm not sure.Here a polish one in stock though.https://www.apexgunparts.com/polish-ak47-1960-milled-buttstock-tang-w-screws-gd.html
>>65305385>Wolf 8M3what about barnaul hp
New thread>>65305606>>65305606>>65305606
>>65305221>Old build, done poorly. Simple as thatYeah but like who did it though? Pretty sure it was someone from around here. It was a pretty major joke not too long ago
