I feel like I’m the only one fascinated by the refitted American pre-treaty BBs. Still wonder to this day if America just abandoned the fast BB designs entirely and just went with comically sized dreadnoughts only limited to Panamaxxing, but I don’t really like the tillmans
>>65230336Well the three of the Big Five that were rebuilt already well exceeded Panamax so they wouldn’t be very large ships. Panamax actually forced a hull form that was suitable to fast battleship proportions. You might be interested in some of the really early Montana studies though, one was a marginally longer ABXY South Dakota with most of the spare weight going to extra armor, which I do wish we’d actually built.
>>65230347The C&R already consciously broke Montana’s Panamax limit by Scheme 8, which makes me wonder if the US navy didn’t just go with the slightly wider beam, instead giving it something like 44-46m beams for the Montana, as their (if I remember correctly) late war expectance of being relegated completely to either ocean.
>>65230336Regardless of how you look at it a 20kn battle line isn't going to cut it in a 30kn world. Otherwise you are just giving your enemy the ability to always dictate engagements.
>>65230353>>65230374>sponsons
>>65230353>>65230374One day I WILL see the Texas.
>>65230770DO IT COOL AF}Need to upload the rest of my dry dock photos
Some of them looked great, especially after the refits, but realistically they were a very, very expensive way to shell a beachhead.
>>65230960>refitsCheaper than building an entirely new ship; sunk cost for warships launched decades prior. All battleships worldwide became permanently obsolete after 1942.
>>65230960Especially since naval gunfire support never really worked like it was supposed to.
>>65230336>comically sized dreadnoughts only limited to Panamaxxingqrd?
>>65230336You're definitely not the only one. The post-refit New Yorks and Pennsylvanias are the most aesthetic of the dreadnoughts ever built, and I maintain that the platonic ideal of a dreadnought would be accomplished by taking a post-refit Pennsylvania and lengthening it just enough to get a triple-barrel Q turret in.
>>65233785>New YorksI also like the Wyomings. Coal fired ftw
Idaho looked really neat with her 5"/38 Mk.30 single turrets. No other BB was refitted with the Mk30s.
>>65230820old american ships have a charm to them
>>65234139fat fuck.
I've started to really like the refitted Pennsylvania lately. All the height towards the front. >>65234967Ooh interesting.
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