I'm buying a Garand tomorrow, anything I should check on it before buying to make sure it doesn't fucking explode in my hands or something? It is also my first gun, so answer this question as though I was retarded. I'm thinking this isn't a car, I should be able to tell pretty easily if something is fucked up about it enough that it straight up won't run right?

>>65233175
Check the bore. You want to see the spiral of the rifling nice and good and the light should be bright and clear from the other end. Rack it a few times to see if you notice/feel anything that seems off. Assuming it isnt a complete rusted out mess, its fine.

Also congrats, an M1 was my first gun too. Just take it nice and slow, read lots of books and manuals and watch respectable videos on operation and you'll be fine.

>>65233118
Where the euro pistols at?

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While not a live firearm, here’s a piece of surplus that fits nicely into the intersection of my interest in WW1 and the US M1903 rifle. It is one of 10,000 training rifles ordered by the US Navy in 1917 and manufactured by the “US Training Rifle Co.” of Philadelphia.

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>>65233718
Hello, I just got it, haven't shot it yet.

What's the most affordable bolt action that's not mosin and you can buy modern ammo for?

>>65234763
Carcanos, k31s and most non-german mausers. Or by modern ammo do you mean modern calibers vs surplus calibers that are still manufactured?

>>65234763
Russian capture K98's
Swiss G11 K11 K31
Swedish M96's
I know you said no Mosin's but Finnish M39's are really nice and the ammo is dirt cheap

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>>65234763
Chilean Mauser 1912-61 in 7.62NATO.

>>65235122
>the ammo is dirt cheap
Was I not tracking on these new ATF regs bringing a flood of surp ammo in recently? Are 7.62x54R spam cans not $300 anymore?

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>>65235191
New arrival from our local japfag

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>>65234763
8mm is still affordable.

>>65234763
if you can get a good deal, an FR8 is very easy to feed in 7.62×51mm

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>>65234763
>most affordable bolt action
>can buy modern ammo for

Pretty much pic related, a spanish mauser in 7.62x51. They can be bought around $250-$350 and are still plentiful, just make sure you get the one chambered for 7.62 and not 7mm also, run actual 7.62 and not .308 on it.

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Prior to this week, the only guns I had bought this year were a FN 1900 and a Beretta 1935. But I scored a Remington Berthier and a Ross 1905, as well as a Berthier and Arisaka bayonet at an auction last week. Everything needs a good cleaning. I already ordered a forend splice for the Ross from a Canadian company.

I didn’t realize shipping gun parts from Canada is apparently a tricky situation, so I only ordered the wood for now and not a front band.

Now I have to get into reloading for 8mm Lebel. I figured it would happen some day.

>>65229953
>I'd be expecting people to be pawning shit with current economy but pawn shops haven't even been turning up anything interesting.
NTA but same. Nothing good yet. Checked some pawn shops for non-gun shit and the prices were okay on lower end shit but still not "need to get rid of" pricing. The other had a pretty piss poor selection. Prices still $10-20 over ebay+ship for shit coming from a pawn shop that reeks of Axe body spray and cheap Dollar General cologne/perfume. Tool chargers for basically retail. And that's the pawn shops in the bad part of town (the only place they exist here, go figure).

>>65231204
>is the store just being gay?
NTA again. Corporate can often just be corporate having worked some retail jobs. A Walmart around here decided to glass case their fucking spraypaint making just grabbing some for touchups or range trips a huge pain in the ass. Note that there's another huge chain store in the same strip without any paint locked away and that I've never seen any paint sprayed on the shelves at all in that Walmart. It's the cleanest, nicest Walmart I know of. Yet corporate will be corporate.

>>65233118
Going to try and work on the lower jig for the AR15 fcg on the Hotchkiss today. Try being the keyword here. After that, then everybody will have everything they need to finish the Hotchkiss kits with the blank receivers in jig form.
>Hotchkiss kit - $350
>Receiver blanks - $450
>Extended AR hammer - $25
>Arc welder off Amazon - $150
>Copper backing bars from Amazon for welding - $10
>3d printed jigs - cheap as shit

About $800-$1000 per Hotchkiss build

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>>65235957
before long everything in walmart will be locked up.

>>65235518
>I have to get into reloading for 8mm Lebel
8mm lebel isnt that hard to find online, shoot it and give yourself a good pile of brass.

But, it can be a bit difficult to find the right size .327 bullets

>>65235386
>8mm is still affordable
True? Let's see some anecdotal testimony

>>65236678
Greek is .40 cpr
Turkish shit is .30
German is .50

>>65236678
Got a 400 round mix of 50’s Yugo and prewar German SMK for $100 about a year or so ago at Tulsa
I bought 900 rounds of 70’s Yugo for $300 around 8 months ago
Got 90 rounds of Portuguese a few weeks ago for $40
Just gotta get lucky with finds

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>using my shit for OP pic
based

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>>65236576
Yeah I’m already working on getting some brass, I bought dies on EBay, and I have some 3 round clips coming. I actually have about 100 rounds of late 40s 8mm Lebel ammo and about 20 5 round clips. I bought them at an auction 2 years ago for like $60 when I was buying other shit. I knew the clips were worth about $20 apiece and I told myself “I’ll have a Berthier some day. I can load the powder and bullets into new brass.” So that’s what I’m going to do.

>>65236853
Not a bad move. PPU loads theirs with proper sized bullets. I shot tons thru my 1886 and i just keep piling up the brass till i find a good horde of rounds.
Funny you post a Krag, I do that with my 30-40. I take old split neck city brass and drop the round nose bullets into new brass.

Have any of you ever taken out surps for new shooters for a range day? I got invited out to a range day with some coworkers for the 4th of July and trying to get an idea of what to bring that won't be too difficult/harsh for someone newer.
>>65235518
>But I scored a Remington Berthier and a Ross 1905, as well as a Berthier and Arisaka bayonet at an auction last week
Nice, a Berthier is on the list for WWI surps I need.

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>>65235518
>>65236576
Wait for PPU to do another run of 8mm Lebel. 5 years ago it was like $23 a box, back when 8mm Mauser and .303 were like $30+ a box lol.

>>65236936
Ive taught multiple people how to shoot with surp. its 1000% how their taught to handle recoil and shoulder a weapon properly. No surp hits hard enough for it to be a true noob filter and anyone who says otherwise was either being taught incorrectly on purpose or lying.

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FUCK. I started disassembling the bolt for cleaning and this little lug literally fell right out. Probably been broken for a long time.

Does anyone know where to find surplus rifle matches?
I've only been able to find one place that does them but its all modern match rifles or US service Rifles with only the very occasional "any rifle" match

>>65236678
https://krarmory.com/YUGO-8MM-SURPLUS-ON-1919-LINKS-500-ROUNDS-2-CANS-WITH-250-EACH-1970S-PRODUCTION-VERY-RARE-FIND-AND-WE-DONT-THINK-WE-WILL-EVER-HAVE-AGAIN-792X57MM_p_1118.html

>>65236936
I usually used SKS as the go to, but at the price of 7.62x39 just sold 5k rounds to buy the crypto dip and some celeb meme coins before they go on tour and movie deals drop that are bottomed out at like $15k mc.
At current pricing and new user intro, I'd probably use one of the 32 acp pistols as intro to handguns or carbines if feel like taking the skorpion out.

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>>65237025
I failed to mention this was for my newly acquired Berthier. Fml. Probably just gonna have to buy a new bolt since apparently bolt heads are nonexistent.

>>65234763
Wz-48

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>>65234763
Are you 100% settled on bolt action?

>>65237137
Never heard of one. Start your own, anon.

Whats a K31 going for these days? Local store has a couple but I'm entirely out of what's considered a good deal in current year.
>>65236936
I like my mosin for that. Most people think it's fun to shoot at least a little and it teaches good handling to control recoil.

>>65239036
Definitely below $600, and you can catch them for as low as $450 before shipping/taxes. All of them I've seen are in good condition (except maybe the stocks) and there are excellent condition examples on the more expensive (though still easily affordable) end.
I overpaid for one at $625 but it was in basically unissued condition so I'm not too upset.

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>>65237025
>>65237789
Unobtainum parts my friend. You're just paying someone to part out another complete gun, which is why the parts are difficult to find and expensive. Doesn't help that retards shoot these without a clip and bend and break the extractor which means they need another bolt head.

Might be cheaper to buy an uggo sporter jerb.

I'll also say that isn't a pressure bearing area as that isn't on the locking lug. Not even sure how a crack formed there.

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>>65233586
I got the rifle, everything looked good and it works nice and smooth. The only issue is it doesn't have bayonet lug and the wings around the front sight, but that's ok, I don't need the bayonet lug and a new front sight was cheap.
This is a really cool gun, it's smaller than I thought

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>>65240325
Just get a new gas cylinder and a new front sight.

What's the best way to get an M1 that isn't rock bottom, scraping the barrel condition? There is only one gun show near me, and it is de facto controlled (I am probably partially doxxing myself here) by a very large gun store nearby. They occupy over half the floor space and it is a very large facility. The rest of it is just awful. Guys selling stupid nonsense straight from Temu. Dudes selling knives of questionable provenance and quality. AR15 after shitty AR15 being sold at 50% markup. I've gone twice, picked through the inventory of every vendor, it's all trash. There tend to be one or two boomers who are selling Garands in questionable condition, usually mean mugging you the whole time while you try to look up info on the gun, and of course you can't just scope the bore while they're priced through the roof. I'm not going back there again, and sadly there are no others within driving distance I'd take a chance on because it means being on the road all day. I just want a Garand without getting my pocket picked by some boomer.

>>65240709
estate sales. You have to get to intercept them before the family brings them somewhere

>>65240764
What's the best way to find about them? Whenever I Google them in my state, it only leads to websites where everything has already been parted out.

>>65240780
you have to beat boomers at their own game by browsing obituaries, driving/calling in to estate sale families before they happen and inquiring about firearms. If you have the patience to deal with a lot of dead ends and cold calling, and can keep your spaghetti together enough to be nice to a family going through a difficult time, you can get first dibs on firearms.

>>65240808
Damn, alright. I feel like it'd be shitty to do that, but I see the angle.

>>65240837
The guns are going straight to the local fudd incorporated gun shop for scalping if you don't anyway. You may as well be the person that benefits instead.

>>65240709
CMP still the best

>>65240709
You can doxx your state anon. And you don’t like single-man road-trips? Surely you’re not 3+ hours away from the next nearest show, right? I’ve got some really great stuff before even at really unlikely shows. Cheap many times
There was an expectedly crappy show in Boulder County, CO (the most libshit county in this bluefucked state) yet, lo and behold, I saw a handsome post-Korean War Emwun for $1000 there. Absolute gem of the show just sitting in some guys rack amongst a couple other forgettable bolties and shotties. Like last year I think. Not into them but I kind of regret passing it. Hope it went to a young guy not a fucking flipper

>>65239342
>basically unissued
Imagine paying more for no cool new pen pal

>>65239036
Average is 500-600. Boomers like to get 7-800

>>65241339
My two all natural japs don't have mums :/

>>65239342
>>65241267
Tolerable I think. I'm seeing what feels like a trend on local offerings where whatever they have is priced roughly around what FFL fee and shipping would be if I got something cheaper online which seems a bit of a racket but at least I get to inspect it before buying. If I remember right they were priced around that $600-650 range which lines up with that theory. The idea of hot Swiss rifles in my area has been getting to me.

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>>65240325
> I don't need the bayonet lug
Absolute blasphemy. I'm still happy for you.

>>65233118
Got a bit of a slavshit craze right now. Whats a good price for an SVT 40 in the current year? (US)

>>65240600
Yeah I already ordered the front sight, I'm leaving the gas cylinder as is right now. Maybe I'll get one later if I feel like putting a bayonet on, for now I'd rather invest that money into ammo

>>65241826
$3000

>>65241855
Dang. Bit more than I was thinking. IDK why I thought they'd still be 18-2200.

>>65243639
I suppose that’s still a good price but the last two I saw at the recent collectors show in my state were the only ones there and owned by the same table, neither in good condition, both over $3000. $1800-2200 is like high lyungman or Garand asking price these days

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Centerfire got Model 60s. $340 goybucks

(why are we getting so many Euro pistols lately)

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>>65244736
Seems like there’s always uncommon European pistols that trickle in every year, which I am thankful for. Some of them I decide to pull the trigger on. I severely regret not getting a Beretta 81 years ago when Classic had them for like $220.

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bought a mosin accessory pack for $25, bayonet, oiler, sling, cleaning kit, and mag pouch
"local" army navy store had about 10-12 of them
not a bad deal id say
here's the worst possible photo i can take

>>65233118
Did you build your Hotchkiss? I have a set of halves but I’m probably going to send mine off because I don’t trust myself to do welds between chamber and locking shoulders in any gun.

Now is the time to buy UCP
old enough to be cheap, young enough to be lame
we're at the bottom of the parabola right now

>>65244860
Cool anon. Can’t even find just a bayonet for $30 bucks anymore. Nice m91

>>65245216
I have UCP's from my brother who fought in Iraq and Afghanistan and they still smell like sweat and gasoline 20 years later.
They're pretty damn torn up too but nothing crazy

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>>65244860
Makes me feel like its 2011 again

>>65245216
I still see older stuff going for cheap. I think UCP might live at the bottom of the depreciation curve for longer than most things do. Seeing as I can't do anything with my million dollar idea, I think ABU sets could be a great base for dye projects. They seem more durable with the traditional buttons for the pockets and the tiger stripes should show up nicely with a different color. I'm not sure if the material they used or any fabric treatments might make it harder for the dye to take hold but that'd be my pick.

>>65244860
When I got my 91/30 for $85, it came with that kit and a helmet. Crazy.

>>65245216
>>65244860 me
I saw some, 2 dollars for the hot weather jackets lol. I might pick a couple up next week to use them as chore jackets for working on my car
They also had these blue-green air force? Dress shirts for $1.00 but I couldn't find my size. If I do go back I'll just size up cuz I really like the color

>>65245216
As shit as the pattern is the actual gear is pretty solid most of the time. FLC's, pouches, packs, etc. If anyone wants a beater ruck to train or practice with the UCP MOLLE rucks really can't be beat, insanely cheap for what you get out of them and a lot on the market are damn near uniussued. They're not the best ruck ever but they're overhated imo

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>>65244860
Even without the bayonet that’s a decent price. Bayonet makes it a damn good deal.

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>>65244860
>bed sheet photo
ahhhh takes me back to a simpler time

>>65247301
Yeah I got a bunch of surp gear for it. Loving the gear vests. Keep my armor carrier empty and just throw on a vest for whatever gun I'm bringing to the range and wear over the carrier. If I'm hot and too or tired, just skip the carrier and do the vest. Switching to a vest for the two rifles and pcc I like to run with just a single plate carrier was best thing ever.

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>>65248486

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milsurp still fucked?

>>65249038
Bigly.

>>65249038
works for me. Skill issue

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>>65245304
Thanks, it is a 1917 sestroryetsk, finn marked. Wondering if anybody could tell me what this "S S 112021" marking means. It isn't the serial number, and it looks like it been struck through for some reason?

>>65252901
Probably civil guard district number

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>>65252901
Here's the crest

>>65252904
Neat, mosinmuseum says kokkola district

>>65252901
>>65252920
>>65252964
Might check out https://mosin.fi/
If you got 55 Euros you can get provenance on your rifle.
I will say I've never done it so idk what the process is like

>>65252213
what are you targeting? what areas are untapped, in your mind?

Can reasonably priced milsurp guns still be found at gun shows these days? There's one near me this weekend, and I'm thinking of checking it out since I have nothing better to do.

>>65253267
Anything reasonably priced on the tables will be bought by boomers and dealers before the floor opens.

>>65253056
>your mosin blew some peasent's head smoove off and then was put in a box for 90 years
t. every mosin ever

>>65253267
>can reasonably priced milsurp guns still be found
No

>>65249038
Dunno, seems better than it's been in the post-covid era. Investment tards seem to have moved onto Pokemon cards and Nintendo games.

Not really much in the way of imports beyond the RTI goat piss guns and post-war Euro pistols.

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>>65252901
Double-“S” prefix to the Civil Guard district number means that particular rifle was Finnish Army property on loan to the CG.

>>65253267
Yes. But small tables only

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I love the smell so much I get emotional

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>>65233118
Picked up a matching Yugo Mauser the other day for 400 and change which I felt was nice.
Also picked this up today, tag at the shop and it was a Tula but that's the tikka mark. Also got it for $400, probably got taken for a ride on both but getting 2 old rifles that are matching under $500 felt ok to me.

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>>65255291
Here's the picture of the mosin.

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>>65255291
$400 for a nice condition matching M48 is fine, and $400 for a Tikka-barreled m/91 >>65255297 is also a square deal. There will probably be a marking on the underside of the barrel to tell you which Finnish arsenal actually assembled the rifle.

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>>65253127
>what are you targeting
these days im getting into transitional BP cartridge era surp or I could be convinced to drop 10k+ on rare/prototypes kind of things. I cleaned out the common stuff when the gettin was good so my views on the market are skewed. That said I regularly see things that arent egregious cause the gunshows and shops here are based as fuck and Im in with lots of the vendors at the Vegas show and Tulsa

>>65253283
>Anything reasonably priced on the tables will be bought by boomers and dealers before the floor opens
This, I am this, I do this. But im not even a dealer/boomer, I just know them all well enough I get in on this. Dont spill spaghetti, make friends and be cool and this is a winning strat

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>>65255291
Good job on both these days

>>65254647
>scrubbed my off years ago.
I can still smell it. Not sure if it’s real or not. I miss it bros. Maybe I shouldn’t have done it bros. Just left it. Ever still sheltered from this corrosive world.

>>65249038
God I love ww2 guns

>>65236266
Ended up getting sick. Long time autoimmune disease for tummy. Just looked at stuff On back burner for a week or two. Looking at best way to turn down a 15/32 steel rod and cut out a channel to act as new recoil rod that the extended ar15 hammer will follow through to hit firing pin.

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>>65257411
This, but WW1 guns.

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>>65236266
>>65257592
Gunnerboy finally called about my order. 2nd batch is $599 in the end, and semi auto firing pins are coming next month it seems.
I have no idea what I'm getting myself into, so I'm very patient. I'm counting on you though anon.

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>>65233118
>Recent News: Piles of Euro pistols. Get em while they're hot.
TELL ME MORE
What models? Where?

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>>65258424
Everyone seems to have em and there's a ton of variety. Centerfire, Moka's Raifus, J&G seem to have the most variety.

>>65258512
His site is annoying to use lol
Desperately needs an option to remove OOS's

>>65257411
top is modern Japanese repro of a browning 1886
middle is Japan's first smokeless powder military rifle which was abandoned well before the 20th century
bottom is the model of 1917

I think you may be TROLLING me bro

>>65257731
zamn. been a while since I've been here. your collection has expanded

>>65258512
Are the hungarian walam 48 .380s or the welt waffen quality enough for EDC? Or should I just get a Tokarev to keep on my flesh table as a conversation piece?

>>65258512
Someone tell me about CZ 70s, is it just a PPK clone? I kinda would be into that.

>>65258375
The reweld jigs are good to go. Just follow instructions for the backing plate to minimize clean up on back end and not melting through receiver. Figuring out the locations for the semi auto lower fcg jig. Measuring like 10-25 times to make sure I got it right. I might make do a run for the semi recoil bolt that the hammer can fit threw and sell the extras.

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I've lately been interested in Steyr-Hahn pistols but have never seen one locally. If any of you all have one, how are they to shoot and reload for? And what's a fair price for one?

>>65257731
Will you run out of deck space or different models of WW1 rifles first?

>>65265313
anon look at the pic more closely

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>>65265313
That pic is 5 years old because now I don’t even have enough space to get the Entente rifles in one shot.

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>>65234763
None of these other guys have any clue what they are talking about. Swedish m96s? Russian capture k98s? Both of these go for like $1000 still.

Yugo and Turkish Mausers, are a pretty good option. I never having difficulty finding 8mm in stores near me.

Aside from that, PPU makes modern ammo of just about every military round. So if you are okay with ordering online...
>K11s still go for under $500.
>Austrian m95s still go for $400-500
>Carcanos go for $300 occasionally

That's pretty much it for nowadays.

>>65253267
You can. I picked up this MAS-49 for $1100 last month at a gun show. Thing was completely covered in cosmoline. The boomer selling it told me he "bought it years ago and couldn't find any mags for it" so I assume it was never fired. He didn't even know the tube under the barrel was a bayonet. Got the scope and mags online later.

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Snagged a nice Egyptian contract FN49 couple days ago

>>65266565
Swede m/96s are nowhere near $1K.

>>65266565
>Russian capture k98s? Both of these go for like $1000 still.
$800 quite regularly and they'll sit like a week or two before a buyer. They're only $1000 if you want to overpay a boomer that has been trying to sell it for months and it's the only one available

>>65266664
Where are they at?

>>65268017
$400 on the low end to $700 on the high end, depending on rarity of production for year/manufacturer, condition, and originality of parts. Finnish use often adds a bit pf a premium as well.

>>65237025
heres what i reccomend, note the dimensions down, make a cad model of it, and send the file to a cnc shop
it wont be cheap but its better than never finding a replacement for it and just leaving an otherwise good rifle in that state or taking the gun apart and selling the parts (god forbid)

>>65269463
>PUT THE FUCKIN MOLDY AMMO POUCHES AND REPRO CLIPS IN THE MOTHA FUCKIN BAG RIGHT NOW

>>65237025
weld

>>65266575
Quite jelly. Saw more svt40s than those last show. Saw more of literally everything than those because I didn’t see one last show fuck

>>65269837
This was actually at a pawn shop. Unfortunately I can’t usego to shows as they’re on weekends and I manage a range and teach classes but I’ve heard they’re dogshit around here anyway. Kid came in with a Taurus 840 he paid $550 for and the same guy sold his buddy a fucking SD9 for the same. I pointed at the SD9 I had in my case for $189.

>>65269463
Me when the price of steel 54R finally creeps above 308.

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Larping with a M28/30 in its natural environment.

Missed the Finnish guns thread unfortunately.

>>65271756
Whats the name of the thread so I can look later?
Also W larp, I wish I had stuff like that to do around where I live

>>65233118
I need a ghost ring rear sight for a small ring Sedish Mauser. Is there one that fits the stripper guide? This is not drilled for a rcvr sight.

>>65266575
Nice.

>>65266565
>MAS-49 for $1100
Is it me or is that a horrible price? That's like a $200 rifle, $400 tops.

>>65253307
>RTI goat piss guns
It would be kinda neat to see Ngubu's entire locality carved into the stock, interesting conversation piece.

>>65240325
Make sure you read up/watch up on shooting modern 30-06 through Garands, you can bend your op rod if you shoot modern hunting loads, try to find post 51 (54?) surplus ammo because it shouldn't be corrosive, or look for boxes specifically advertising M1-safe pressures.

https://www.garandgear.com/the-m1-garand-and-commercial-ammunition/

Congrats on yer gun!

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milsurp bros, what is your current project that you technically havent started yet? Maybe something you've only sketched out? notepads? maybe starting some cursory research?
what you got thats in its infancy?

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>>65272630
This fucking thing. British made, Indian used, .410 (IM) single shot. I'm hoping by next spring this thing will get bored for shotshells and maybe threaded for a choke. All depends on if I can convince my gunsmith and how much money I have. Front handguard is mostly done, needs to be glued. Rear, I just came back across my stock of Walnut boards and it's been staring me in the face. Finally got a bolt body and still need a bolt head. Stock is as oil soaked as ever. Also in shopping at random places I ran into the one dude that used to be in the Sarco or Numrich (?) videos that now seem to be deleted. Wears a boonie and tanktop in those videos IIRC; didn't realize until a vendor asked about one of the guys at the company. Small-ass world.

>>65272427
Unfortunatelly I don't remember it exactly and can't find it in archive anymore, thread expired last week. I think it was either "Finnish guns" or "Guns of Finland"...?

>>65272630
>milsurp bros, what is your current project that you technically havent started yet?
>>65272469
Technically, awaiting more information...

>>65273068
>think it was either "Finnish guns" or "Guns of Finland"...?
Agreed.

What's the going rate for Israeli k98 in 7.62 NATO? One near me for $1k

>>65272630
Currently researching the work it would take to turn 6.5 swede or potentially even 6.5 Carcano into .276 pederson

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>>65273874
That's a lot unless it is in immaculate condition. $800 for a good condition matching one. $400 if it's from the batch which detoured through El Salvador on its way to the US.

>>65274431
Thanks knew price went up a little with COVID but was thinking it was too high.

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>>65238430
You would have to use cowboy loads unless you want it to explode.

>>65275149
Off-the-shelf boxes clearly and explicitly stating “trapdoor safe loads” are not uncommon

>>65275149
Bullshit.

>>65274431
Not that anon but they’ve spiked in price where I’m at too

>>65275149
When we are talking cowboy loads, Leverlution 45-70 is the only true out the box do not shoot in trapdoor ammo. Otherwise literally anything 405gr and ~1200 FPS on the box is fine.

>>65272469
>I need a ghost ring rear sight for a small ring Sedish Mauser
Do I ask for too much?

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My boss and his boss brought me along to an indoor range for a “team building” thing today instead of work and I got to show off my Kongsberg m/1914. They were all fascinated with firing a 103 year old pistol, I told them just wait until we go to a rifle range lol
Also had to explain how a hammer fired semiautomatic pistol works to these Glock guys.
I’m phoneposting and don’t have any pics of the Kongsberg so here’s one of my Iraqi No.1 MkIII. I find it interesting that BSA stamps these as a MkIII instead of MkIII*, despite being made in 1938 and lacking the mag cutoff and volley sights.

Just bought my first Mosin with bayonets and accessories for 450€ how did I do?

Next I'm thinking getting a Carcano TS
Or maybe I will cross the border and bring back some K31.

>>65275533
450 euros is about $500 in the united states so IMO a little bit high but since I presume your in europe it might be decent

>>65275350
>had to explain hammer fired to glock guys
Fucking hell.

>>65275554
Yeah, it's probably a bit high but I have to be realistic. I don't think prices will revert to what it used to be. There is an ammo pouch and bayonet with it along some other stuff so it was a good deal IMO. I regularly see people selling bare Mosin for nearly double this price.

I will come back to put a picture here once it's arrived

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>>65275350
It seems like they realized the features removed for the III* were largely useless anyway and stopped differentiating. Mine was made in '18 as a III* but arsenal repaired interwar and they stamped out the star, adding back the windage adjustment and magazine cutoff, but no volley sights. According to Wikipedia the cutoff for cutoffs was 1933. Is your rear sight windage adjustable?

>>65233118
Are Lee-Enfield Mark 4s a good buy in (current year)? What should I look out for when inspecting them?
There’s going to be a gun show near me in about a month and I am interested in picking one up there

Note: do not really care about getting one with a WW2 production date. A post war example would be fine for me too

>>65277333
*Lee-Enfield No.4

>>65277333
I'll sell you my non import no5 mk1 for $600

>>65275350
>>65275560
To be fair, Glock guys probably don't even know what a striker fired is too. They just repeat what they hear like they're out of Idiocracy, it's got electrolytes.

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Can finally rest easy know I achieved one of my two life goals.

Now why is it so fucking hard to find a shoulder holster for this thing?
Ive seen so many movies with props so surely shit actually exist in real life?

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>>65275350
>Iraqi No.1 MkIII
You need this to go with it.
https://www.qilonyc.com/qilo-shop/saddam-resort-shirt-in-rosewater

>>65277556
She's beautiful, congratulations.

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>>65272630
This Ross. I have a forend coming from Canada. If that makes it I’ll probably end up buying a front band and butt sling swivel from him. I bought an intact middle band recently.

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>Finally find something on Jew Broker worth buying
>Make an account
>Immediately locked
>Wants me to hold my fucking drivers license while taking a selfie AND a picture of a utility bill to get it unlocked
lmao fuck off

>>65278015
in what world do you live in where that happened?

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>>65276000
>Is your rear sight windage adjustable?
Nope, no windage adjustment either

>>65277556
A Hitler Pokémon Card?

>>65277333
>rear locking lugs
Headspace
>everyone trying a Mad Minute
Bore

>>65278019
Dunno, I had a VPN on because I was torrenting some shows, but I didn't think it'd get that autistic over it. You'd think there would be less bots on the site.

>>65278115
well consider it the sign that whatever it was wasnt worth it in the end

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>>65278041
Ayyyyy, another London Small Arms bro. There are few of us.

>>65272630
I'm half way planning to reblue a mosin I bought to its original black using backyard ballistics' method. Dumbass boomer who I bought it off of at the flea market obviously cleaned it aggressively with break cleaner, it's totally stripped down to silver metal

>>65278601
That would be the wrong method for bluing it.
Brake cleaner also will not touch bluing.

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>>65278418
It’s BSA actually but the B isn’t stamped very well. London Small Arms is one of the few producers I don’t have yet. Need one of those and an Ishapore, which are a diamond dozen so it’s not a priority right now.

>>65278115
>I was stealing IP and Gunjoker had the nerve to suspect me of being dishonest
LOL. LMAO, even.

>>65278601
See >>65278667
Unless it was painted in that black Soviet refurb paint, but it'd still have the blueing under it. You probably bought some fucked up mosin of unknown backyard fuckery if it's been stripped down to bare metal.

>>65278418
NTA but I have your rifle's retarded cousin, anon. >>65272740

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>>65279249
>London Small Arms is one of the few producers I don’t have yet.
NTA but unfortunately they seem to have been a common victim of Indian 410 conversion if I remember right from my research. If they're still in stock at Centerfire, you can roll the dice on getting one but they'd need barrel and mag replacements and a lot of restoration back to original condition, and IIRC at least one missing piece of wood. They're probably really scraping the bottom of the bottom of the bottom of barrel now.

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And somehow there were still remnants of threads under that...

>>65279249
Oh shit you are right, that is an impressively L shaped B.

>>65280122
I always thought those 410 conversions were cool. I kinda want one but I don't want a mega shitter.

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>>65279276
>Stealing IP
I almost always use a VPN and I've never run into this sort of trouble before. Even when making accounts for actual gun buying. I've also never been told to take a selfie just to access a gun eBay knockoff.

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>>65280198
The earlier sales were where it was at when they were $110 with free shipping. Still oiled to hell and back with the wood badly in need of cleaning (literally black with what to my nose seems to be used motor oil) but nearly immaculate with minor fixes needed. The later ones ($80?) are fucked but restorable without a bolt. I got a bolt body, thank god, but I now need to find a bolt head that headspaces within reason before I try and convince my gunsmith that he's not going to be doing unspeakable things by giving me the .410 I want by reaming the chamber and maybe threading for chokes (and by extension, silencers). Cleaning it up, restoring it, and making it functional is the most mercy this thing has seen in the last ~100 years. Also the rear sight is pinned at a low distance.

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I'm neither particularly knowledgeable nor a big collector but I found this mauser bayonet yesterday at a flea market yesterday and had to get my grubby mitts on it. Good for $30?

>>65280813
Good deal for a m/14.

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Picked up a 42 izhevsk 91/30. Was looking at some markings, it has a circle K and pressure test mark on the left side of the barrel shank.

Is this marking on the right side a circle C? Or a poor circle O? Did they double stamp for the powder/pressure test sometimes?

Yugo Sks for $950?
I was thinking more like $700-750

>>65281525
SKSs aren’t cheap anymore, but 950 is a few hundred too much.

I can only justify spending that much on a nice unfired norinco, there’s quite a few still out there. I’ve heard the yugos generally have lots of miles and pitted bores are common.

>>65280813
it looks like somebody fucked with it in an attempt to restore but at the same time even if somebody fucked with it its still worth 30.dollars. worthless to collectors.

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>>65278050
Mein Fuhrer! Use Blitzkrieg!

>>65280164
RTI enfield?

I clean mine up and it’s a tack driver. There were dead bugs inside of the stock and it looked real rough.

>>65281533
I think Yugos are the only SKSs that don’t have chrome lined bores. For some reason.

>>65281538
What specifically would you say they tried to do to it out of curiosity? Is it something with the wood on the handle?

Can I put 6.5 jap in swede clips?

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>>65281810
Yes.

>>65281525
$500 of just regular 59/66
Maybe $700 if it's a Cherry's import unissued 59/66 or a 59. The 59 is rarer than an Albanian but nobody really buys them and they were refurbished to like new before coming stateside.

>>65281550
No, 80s/90s import of one of those 410 converted single shot Indian used Enfields through Century. The worst have sat for like 30 years unsold, and even stranger, still in 410 IM, not bored out for .410 shotgun shells. Centerfire had them for quite some time. No bugs, just a ton of dirt and rust. Thankfully the rust is mostly in spots that doesn't end up mattering. The stock needs a piece re-attached and the screw hole(s) filled with a dowel and re-drilled, so that screw might actually be usable or I might use a spare when I find one cheap.

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>>65282174
cool

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>>65272630
Im abandoning the trench project at the range. At least in its current location. Im thinking of building a simple bench rest position with all the scrap 2x4s I have

>>65282862
it works with 7.7 too. Sweden is so based for this

what do you guys think about $350 for a moist nuggy a connection at a lgs is sliding my way? No pics atm but I saw it and it seemed like its in decent shape. Might be able to get pics tomorrow. Its a 1942 Izhevsk. I'm not very well versed in nuggets but its probably refurbished. Seems like a pretty generic example and there are no accessories.
cop or nah?

>>65284286
pretty basic but in today money $350 is fine. You think theyd be cool for 300? is it that kind of connection you have or are they upfront its 350.

>>65284314
Its $350 up front and I have first dibs for a day or two before its listed for sale. He will include the 9% sales tax in that price for me that everyone else would have to pay on top.

>>65284338
hmmmmm. with the sales tax thats kinda rough since thatll push you close to 400 which is the absolute limit of a basic '42 refurb 91/30. Id you can keep it under 400 than sure. Them time gating you with the "we'll hold it for 2 days"is dumb since it is the most common kind of Mosin so its not like another wont come by anywhere else.
That said, if you like then lgs and want to support the business than go for it. Wait for pics to make sure it isnt a complete POS, then go ahead.

>>65284338
That would be like as if you were paying 320+tax, I'd go for it. Can't even get a parts gun for that now

>>65282862
What's the dud rate on that ammo?

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How much of an improvement are the Finnish Mosins over the Russian ones? I have heard they’re better, but it is enough to justify the higher price point?

>>65285569
It has a lot to do with the fact that Finland’s post-WW2 Mosin refurbishment wasn’t just a make-work program for the state to pretend people were gainfully employed. The Soviets took care of the Mosins when that was all they had for infantry weapons, but once they have the SKS and AK nobody really cares if the Mosins still shoot straight because if we’re handing out Mosins again things are fucked, but the Finns didn’t acquire significant quantities of assault rifles until circa 1970 so they needed their Mosins to work. There’s also a cultural difference: there was a strong civilian/military marksmanship culture which put emphasis on having the weapon in top working order.

>>65285149
Ive fired about 50 of them and only had 3 duds.
Every single one is a noticble hangfire tho

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>>65284374
O wait, i fail at reading comprehension. its $350 with the tax. ok thats better but the rest of my post stands. Wait for pics and dont feel pressured

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Pics of $350 nugget. Sorry if they are shit, I had to stop in on my way to work and grab them very quickly. I forgot to mention the bore was absolutely filthy so I couldn't really tell how good it is. There is at a minimum rifling present and the previous owner was the only one who had it between the importer and now.

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>>65286224

>>65286228
Yep thats a nugget

>>65286224
I love how rough the wartime receivers were

>>65286224
1942 Izhevsk M91/30 is the all-time highest production year/model/maker for Mosins. Which is kinda special in its own way.

>>65286224
>>65286228
looks like your pretty standard '42 izzy. for $350 and no more sure, buy it. Double check that bore though. make sure its just "filthy" as you say and not a rusted smoothbore piece of shit.

I just put money down on a nice Yugo SKS. It's a good deal (for today's pricing), only $550
Deals are out there folks

Remington 513T, with globe front and redfield rear sight, us property and rack numbers, $500, should I drive 2 hours to pick it up
It would be my first 22

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>>65275533
>>65275915

Here is the beast. My first nugget.

Izhevsk 1943. Everything seem to be matching. I also got a bayonet, a pouch and a tool kit with it.

Definitely way less trashy than what I was expecting. It's not a Mauser tho.
But I'm surprised by how much complex this gun is when compared to other bold action. The mag is a good exemple : it's in god know how many part, while a Mauser only have a one part string.

I feel like the Soviet idea of mass production is to still build a complex rifle, just without any finish

>>65289569
>less trashy than what I was expecting
Mosins are legitimately very serviceable rifles when in good shape. A lot of people's experience with them are colored by poorly refurbished examples that typically have very shot out and pitted bores that should've been replaced decades ago, but weren't during their refurb programs. Many of them are going to have rough actions regardless though, a lot of WW2 era parts in them were roughly machined in a hurry. I'm lucky that my 91/30 refurb is relatively smooth for a Mosin, M44 refurb is rougher, though neither are as crunchy as my Carcano

Yours looks like a post-war refurb as well that a previous owner might have refinished. Bluing looks a little glossy for what's typical of Mosins and the stock doesn't have any shellac left

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>>65289027
Mine is a very accurate rifle. I think I paid $350 for it in 2014.

Looking to purchase my first milsurp bolt action. I intend to shoot it fairly regularly, mostly on the flat range but I may use it as a hunting rifle at some point. (If I do, I won’t sporterize it, but I probably will install one of those no drill and tap picatinny mounts and run a modern optic on it)
Currently narrowed my options down to the Lee-Enfield No.4, the K31, the Yugo M48 and the Mosin M39. What option would be my best bet? Is there anything that I should consider instead?

>>65290617
I'd get the M39
The triggers are nice on a majority of them.
7.62x54 is VERY common
They're usually very accurate rifles.
The wood on them is absolutely beautiful.
They are also good rifle to collect
Also they're pretty damn cheap right now 600-700

K31's are pretty nice to but the ammo is really expensive so range trips are impractical
If you are gonna get a Yugo m48 just get a captured German one, they are usually the same price and the quality is better
Or you can spend like $100 more and get a Russian Capture

Also In my own opinion, just get good at the iron sights instead of mounting a scope on it (unless you have vision problems)

>>65236955
Can ppu products even leave the country? I though Serbian stuff was still on lockdown.

>>65290905

I don't know for the US, but I just managed to import some crates of 7,5x54MAS to France.

The thing is, PPU is VERY busy with the war in Ukraine and doesn't really have the time to make milsurp ammo for autist like us

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>>65289767
I will make a close up picture of the Mosin later, but at first sight it doesn't seem that the rifle was refinished. The stock is still "oily".

Anyway, next step for me : a nice Carcano, or a Swiss rifle.

>>65290905
Not sure about their ammo but my LGS still gets shipments of Zastava AKs pretty regularly

Well, I'm sure all that is very cool. But it doesn't answer the question: >>65275338

>>65291475
Nothing exists without drilling and tapping
Simply git gud with the v-notch

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>>65291537
They’re basically all U-notches as surplussed, so even easier to use IMO.

>>65290617
Swedish Mausers are widely regarded for their accuracy but you gotta deal with ammo prices.

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>>65293922
>ammo prices.
This is always true.

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>>65291537
>git gud with the v-notch
Yeah. Seemed like the stripper guide would be a good spot for a ghost ring

>>65293922
That’s the main thing that made me consider the Finnish mosin over it. Heard their accuracy is also really good, but 7.62x54 is a lot easier to come by. I live in Michigan so I was thinking a Nordic produced rifle would suit my state’s climate

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Stonkin deal for a Famas kit

>>65294656
>I was thinking a Nordic produced rifle would suit my state’s climate
>because Sweden is too tropical

>>65296885
Crap.

>>65297946
Not what I meant by that. I was saying that to convey that was the reason I was weighing the Swedish Mauser against the mosin M39. They’re both Nordic options.

>>65296885
>moka’s raifus
They have one kit and they will never restock it after it’s gone

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Did you know that PPU make correct-sized Carcano ammo now ?

My LGS had some, so I bought a can

>>65298202
Nice. Good snag anon. Cpb?

>>65236936
Ended up bringing my M48 and Marlin 1894 to the range with my coworkers. Most had only ever gone pistol shooting for first time with a rifle for a lot of them. Was a blast and while some people liked the Mauser, everyone loved the Marlin.

Anyone got a lead on a Murata type 22 bayonet?

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>>65298731
‘Ere you go m8. WW2 vintage!

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>>65297946
If Sweden is not a tropical country why does it have a bikini team?

>>65298760
lol. Is there a digital copy of Bayonets of Japan floating around? The hardcovers are running over $250, it looks like.

>>65298770
This is a valid question. For the saunas?

>>65290905
Yes they can ship ammo to the US. They feed my Enfield.

What brands are the good repros of the m1 carbine? I've heard some are shit, Ones less than $1500 preferably. Do the m7 bayonets fit them?

>>65299192
for the cost of an ok repro there are like 400 surp ones that are just as good if not better and below $1.5k

>>65299226
Beside gunboomer, where do you recommend looking? Won't the barrels on repros be better than the slurps theoretically? I'll be using it for home defense and hunting.

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>>65298859
You don’t wear clothes in sauna.

>>65299384
its HIGHLY dependent on your local surp market but M1s are very common at gunshows and non-Winchester or super rare manufacturer ones go typically for $900-1.2k. But again this is dependent on your local show market. If your willing to drive to better shows youd be fine too

>repros be better than the slurps theoretically
Theoretically yes but a good surp barrel is just as good vs all the other issues with shitty repors. The main issue with M1s are the mags. Universal is about the only "good repro"

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>>65290617
Ended up picking up this M48A from a small local shop for $600

The stock is pretty beat up, but the bore looks pretty much flawless. I saw maybe one speck in there when I did a flashlight test.

>>65299632
Stock also matches the receiver. Bolt isn’t matching though.

>>65297962
moka is a fucking jew

>>65298202
let me know when they restock 7.35

>>65299682
Lol good luck

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aaaaayyyyy caramba
going to the ordnance rifle state championship today.
rifles:
m96/38 shoots most perfect but the vasteras sights spring is lose a bit, after every shot i have to adjust it.
plan b would be the m28/30 picrel, but i played a bit with the firing pin and now it peirces every 2nd primer.
no time to readjust, i have to leave now for the comp.
how fucked am i?

>>65235446
Is that a polymer stock? Also why only 7.62x51 and not .308?

>>65298287
CPB was around 34$ (I'm based in Europe)

>>65298202

I don't have a lot of hope for 7,35
I don't have the space to get into reloading rn, to bad, Carcano in 7,35 are usually nicer

Dropped a rare japanese items for trade on local forums. Shit seems worse than it was even peak COVID with shit heads.
>Boomers - stereotypical firm handshake and let me scam you sonny, heh, heh. What do you mean you don't want a tool chest?
>Gen x and millennials - temu pawn stars wheel and deal attempt, best I can do is undervalue your item and overvalue mine above like new pricing. What do you mean you don't want a PSA AR?
>Zoomers - Andrew Tate wanna be of the system and feminism has destroyed firearms collecting and everything is to be treated as if rugging a pump fun scam. Let me try to ask to take possession of firearm and go to arm, will totally be back trust me bro.
Every fucking cunt trying to run a scam and do an art of the deal.
>>65299632
You overpaid at least $200 for a mismatched m48.

>>65301161
>Go to arm
Go to ATM

>>65300405
Slightly higher pressures on 308 vs 7.62 NATO.

>>65301170
would it really matter, especially on something as overbuilt as the masuer action

>>65301178
I wouldn’t worry about it

>>65301178

I think Spanish Mauser aren't in true 7,62 but in a 7,62 CETME wich is weaker but correct me if I'm wrong.

But you're right, the Mauser action can probably handle it

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>>65301170
.308 and 7.62NATO are the same. Period. They have the same bullet, same powder, same case.

>>65301578
No. 7.62CETME was a lower recoiling round; not a lower pressure round. It uses a light weight aluminum bullet being slung out by basically pistol powder. It was designed for full auto firing only. The bolt actions were always designed for 7.62 NATO. Only the early Cetme rifles were intended for the CETME cartridge and even then they quickly moved BACK to the NATO cartridge. Spain adopted the NATO cartridge first.

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I usually have a rule to not by ugly condition Arisakas, but $250 for an intact mum Type 99 with original monopod is hard to beat. I've certainly sold worse rifles for more. And yes, the monopod is bent backwards. The Japanese manual said the soldiers could bend it as needed. Not even the first I've seen like this either.

>>65301877
Sweet. Good job anon

>>65301178
>>something as overbuilt as the masuer action
>>Doesn't know there's different mausers
>Small ring Mauser not a large ring mauser
>Two locking lugs not three
>No gas escape ports
>1916 older softer metals
>Higher pressure modern rounds
I dunno. You take your pick on any of differences between a large ring mauser like the k98 and the older not modern small ring Mausers on why it might be a bad idea to continually do it.
>>65301843
Not the same. Check specs and psi levels.

>>65301877
>good condition
>still crap
Sweet.

>>65301843
>308 and 7.62NATO are the same. Period.
He doesn't know.

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>>65302066
They are the same. Yeah, .308 technically has a thinner case wall, but in reality land you think Winchester or UMC is going to make two slightly different cases to put into separate boxes?

>>65302056
>Not the same. Check specs and psi levels.
They're the same. Pressure measured with a modern piezoelectric sensor aren't comparable against pressures measured with the older crushed copper disk method. Both give a PSI reading, but you have to compare measurements done the same way.

Think. How do you get such wildly different pressure from .308 to 7.62 when they use the same bullet and same powder and MAYBE a slightly different case?

Unless you're talking about 7.62CETME, then they are exactly the same pressures against 7.62NATO according to Santa Barbara arsenal, which made the ammo. (pic related)

>>65302127
>you think Winchester or UMC is going to make two slightly different cases to put into separate boxes?
If one allowed them to use less brass and save that fraction of a cent over billions of cases produced I absolutely would. Remember Winchester’s shoddy QC destroyed thousands of US rifles during WW1.

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>>65302140
>If one allowed them to use less brass and save that fraction of a cent over billions of cases produced I absolutely would.
The separate production lines would cost more than the brass saved. Pretty sure I've seen NATO headstamped ammo in .308 boxes before.

>Remember Winchester’s shoddy QC destroyed thousands of US rifles during WW1.
Pretty sure most of the really bad ammo wasn't from established brands, like Winchester, but the new guys that popped up to make a buck.
I got a MAXIM USA branded .45, that were so bad that they only made a couple million rounds. Pretty rare stuff.

>>65234702
GC is Guardia Civil?

Any anons here loosely plugged into the re-enactment community and if so what are some good sources of repro field gear, specifically later 19th century and pre-WW1 euro uniforms and kit. I want to larp around like a tremendous faggot with my surp.

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>>65239390
I said “fuck it” and just put the bolt head back in for now so I could shoot it. I’m sure it was shot plenty of times with that little lug being broken. I’ll just keep my eyes peeled for a cheap sporter rifle or cheap bolt head. Rifle shot fine with 40 grains of IMR 3031 and PPU 198 grain .323 bullets. Might buy some .327 bullets whenever they come available. We’ll see.

Berthiers and their 3 round clips might be the worst en bloc system I’ve ever used. And that’s saying something compared to Carcanos when you have bad clips and a finicky rifle. They don’t consistently feed and they don’t consistently sit in the rifle the way they’re supposed to. But I was still able to get through a 3 round clip without a hiccup about half the time so that’s fine.

Now that I finally confirmed the rifle works just fine, it’s time to dress it up with a sling.

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felt lazy so I made a floating benchrest position at the range with some of the scrap wood. Ive had the sudden urge to get a type 38 recently so im working that out. I already have a type 99 and a type 14 nambu. Anything specific to 38s I need to know?

>>65299396
Gee, Bill, two sling holes on the butt? (Seriously, though, wtf?)

>>65304688
It’s so you sling it more comfortably on skies

>>65302487
Yea, I don't know if the entire batch of them available are Guardia Civil, but it seems like the majority of them are.

>>65304763
I have seen some reviews from people who bought from this current batch a couple months ago and some have the GC ground off. They seem to be the higher grade condition ones though. Mine came with GC on it and I bought it only a few weeks ago so there must still be a good supply.

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>>65305671
Here's a picture, meant to post it when I got it but I have been busy. It's a rock solid wonder nine for the price.
Also check those digits

>>65305671
>They seem to be the higher grade condition ones though.
Mine was one of the few that I've found in "good" condition, which is the lowest I've seen, so that tracks. It's only a 1993 production though and looks really good, just some holster wear. Can't beat it for $211 shipped.

>>65305760
Good get and interesting that your S/N is on the left side, where the Star logo is on mine.

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>>65305838
I don't know the exact details it but there was some sort of cosmetic update ~1990 that switched the grips from plastic to hard rubber and flip flopped the markings. I quite like the retro styling on this one. Feels like a Miami Vice episode.

Is there anything to look out for when buying an M1 Carbine? I know there's some commercial manufacturers like Universal and Plainfield, which I'm avoiding. Are there any manufacturers that are better than others?

>>65307057
All the g.i. ones are equal quality. Inland most common and cheapest, winchester second most common but most expensive because boomers are retarded. Idk much about the rest. Obviously "WW2 correct" will be the most valuable, also most beat up. refurbs will have bayonet lugs, fat stocks, reparkerized and mixed mfg parts, but if you just want a shooter none of that matters.

>>65307081
The one I'm looking at is an Underwood for $1,000. It's not reparked, has the slim stock, and the parts I see all have the same manufacturer, but it does have a bayonet lug.

>>65307101
How's the condition? Barrel date? Imo id buy it at that price as long as it isn't totally shot out

>>65307131
Barrel is a '44, looks clean and not fucked up. Wood and metal is fine. Blueing is a little worn, but nothing crazy. No pitting or rust.