The year is 2026, and your forces have been slowly strangling fuel and ammunition supply lines into the peninsula that houses thousands of enemy combatants. It is easy to isolate, but difficult to attack. The land has resisted offensives for hundreds of years.How would you go about conquering it? Do you slowly starve out the peninsula, knocking out bridge after bridge, or do you take a riskier approach? Paratroopers at Sevastopol, an amphibious landing at the beaches, bomb them into submission from the air? You can use whatever forces you think make for an interesting fight, but>just nuke itis a boring cop-out and you know it.**this isn't pro-russia or pro-ukraine, take your politics to /pol/, I just wanna wargame a geographically interesting location ya schmucks**
>>65236371Maximize the medium and ong range effort, both against logistics and Russian refineries.Right now, I do not see how a ground effort could break the line, and even reaching the isthmus is improbable.But letting the Russian garrison and the troops along the river die on the vine seems possible, even if it is slow.A few weeks without ammo or fuel supply is survivable. A week without food supply, too.But when you're actuallly out of fuel, food or water the situation becomes problematic within days.
>>65236406Water is an interesting one, isn't there like, only one canal that carries the majority of the fresh water into the peninsula? There's gotta be more than just that, right?
>>65236371I need more information. Is the former reservoir land dry yet?
>>65236422If it helps make it interesting for you, fuck it. Reservoir land is dry and you have perfect summer weather.
>>65236429Get some NATO bridging equipment, and YOLO a thrust.
>>65236371Boring answer, but given identical circumstances to the situation today, I’d be doing exactly what Ukraine is already doing. I’d be blowing up every supply truck I can find. Issue a warning to everyone in the occupied territory that westbound traffic toward Crimea will be targeted, since we know ziggers will hide in civilian cars anyway. I’d continue focusing on ramping up drone production and absolutely saturate that highway with drones. I’d then drop the Kerch bridge, and let ONLY eastbound traffic up and out of Crimea. Actually taking it back is the hard part, because for that to be possible you’d need a full blown zigger retreat from southern occupied territories
>>65236371https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Kerch_PeninsulaMind boggling how jerries managed it with their total strength was less than one third of the defending soviet force. Isn't the rule of thumb stated attack force has to outnumber 3-to-1?
>>65236443Drone advancement has really changed the rules of attack and defense. Aerial superiority even more so. This entire trench warfare era disappears with legitimate close are support.
>>65236406Agriculture is becoming unsustainable from the lack of fresh water, but is it really as far as there not being enough for people to drink?
Just keep droning it, the monkey has made its annexation his "crowning achievement" (and indirect casus belli for starting part 2 of the war in 2022). He desperately needs to hold it and will throw good money after bad in doing so. Squeeze it to bleed them out faster.
The Crimea Bridge should have been the Crimea Bridge-Tunnel.
>>65236495(me)The US Navy was smart enough to insist on that for their Virginia bases.
>>65236371>nukes used in anger>boringIt might be a tremendously retarded or even outright suicidal decision, but it sure as hell would make for even more interesting times.
>>65236413That canal has been cosed since 2015, and it was only for agriculture in northern Crimea. Not drining water.
>>65236413>only one canal that carries the majority of the fresh water into the peninsula? There's gotta be more than just that, right?There's just that. And it's been off since 2014. It brought the drinking and farming water. Since the tap has been off. Crimean farmland has reverted to the highly saline, semi-arid desert-scape it was for all of history before the Soviet terraforming projects in the 50s made it farmable.Yes, Monkey destroyed one of the few good things the sovok union did.
I would take it by posting the justin timberlake meme for ten years what else can I do.>>65236511While I don't condone violence, especially towards women, some times some people just need a knock to the head. When I was a teen lad my sister one day just went apeshit and wouldn't fucking stop. I told her several times "Bro take a breath and sit down or I'm going to slap you" she wouldnt stop, I slapped her, she sat down and stopped being manic.Some times a big bomb would solve all the problems. Pretending that a million small bombs is any different is retarded.
>>65236519>only for agriculture in northern Crimea. Not drining waterNigger, it was for the entire water table. The private borehole bringing water from the ground brought up the well water that was canalwater at one point.
>>65236466On Crimea, no.IN areas closer to the front, occupied Kherson, and east towards Melitupol, there have been regular power outages and problems with the water supply.On the front, Russian warbloggers have desribed the situation as 'problematic', sometimes even 'dangerous' or 'critical' with statement about troops drinking rainwater and starving.I probably don't need to tell you how bad things are when the rations no longer reach the guys at t he sharp end and tehy start drinking untreated water.
>>65236533Hardy puccian people will just drink groundwater with a little salt in it))))))))))))))))))you put salt in your food, is good for you!But seriously, the water supply of Crimea itself is not yet critical, the actually populated ares to the south are supplied from reservoirs in the hills there.The northern parts have been turning back into steppe for the past decade.But yeah, the ground sallinity has goen way up, and it'll be another decade or so before things will really grow there again after the water supply is restored.
>>65236558https://intent.press/en/news/ecology/2026/water-reserves-are-almost-exhausted-in-occupied-crimea/This is from January. They've been complaining of water rationing for years.This is from last fall.https://support4partnership.org/en/news/crimean-tears.-peninsula-on-the-brink-of-water-supply-disasterThere is very much a problem with water on Crimea and the question becomes not when the residents start trying to leave but if the local authorities will let them.
>>65236572Huh, I didn't know it was that bad already.OTOH, last time I read anything about it was round 2019, and the tl;dr of that was 'things wil stabiize at the current level because the northern Crimean population has dropped, things are fine in teh southern aprt'Welp. They'll probably have a slow, constant exodus of people who just pack their shit and drive away.
>total mobilization of male population>diversion attacks on multiple fronts and open new fronts in the north>send a cannon fodder to eat Russians drones, artillery and mines>send elite units to consolidate and take Crimea
>>65236371its russias why would i take it
>>65237071So exactly what the russians are going to try, only for the rest of the Donbass.
>>65237083Saaaaaaar noo saaar you cannot redeem Ukranian clay because russia said it is theirs saaaaar why are you redeeming!
>no way in>no way outhow does russia unfuck the crimea situation?
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>gas stations refusing to give fuel to the military lol, lmao even
>>65236371Flamingo the Kerch bridge's support, removing Crimea's only remaining connection to the continent. Train Ukrainians for months for D-day landings on every side of the crimean "peninsula", the strongest Ukrainian soldiers are sent to Sevastopol and hide underground to set up a fortified command post under the protection of meteor-armed Gripens. This where be where the Ukrainian Navy will send thousands of UGV speedboats every day filled with guns, ammo, and food. Everyone around the island surges inward on to the Russian forces, who have no access to supplies whatsoever. Anyone who tries to block the new logistics line gets driven off the road into a ditch. Local civilian cars are seized from Crimeans to quickly rotate troops from the back to front and vice versa. Forces at Kherson launch massive daily FP-2 drone strikes on the closest Russian positions and the Armiansk/Chonhar connections to prevent Russia from trying to turn around and stop the inevitable.
>>65237364>we can't give you fuel because of rationing>no we can't fill barrels due to safety, only gas cans>no we have no gas cans, or gas, not my problemThe gas station with nukes is down to nukes, and they're of questionable quality.
>>65236371Cancel all leave, pull every man who can still run and hold a rifle from the field hospitals, every man who can run in the country, all for possibly the maddest dash in history from Orikhiv to the Sea of Azov after destroying the Kerch Bridge. From there, advance to the old Crimean border for all God will let us, then running through the peninsula.
>>65237393(Cont'd) Every vehicle that can be spared. Every shell, every drone, every goddamn aircraft not already given to a unit, all of it. Men without motorcycles are given bicycles to make sure almost every man who is not assigned to a vehicle can still move faster than a walking pace.
>>65236406>Right now, I do not see how a ground effort could break the line, and even reaching the isthmus is improbable.depends on where you are really. Russians have been complaining about Ukrainian advances in the Zapo region and donestk region for a while now. Pic related are recent russian rumblings from today
>>65236371Ukrainians tried and failed>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Ukrainian_counteroffensive
>>65237440Things have changed in 3 years, anon
>>65237448Not really. This war has proven all you need to stop all advances is a million FPV drones. I don't see Ukraine having the manpower to push them back significantly unless the logistics get so bad that Russians literally start starving to death on the front line. Drones are literally all you need. Getting past them from either side, unless proven otherwise, is basically impossible.
>>65237467Ukraine has a massive drone advantage over Russia. Still, I don't think they have the stomach to congregate several brigades for a concentrated push as casualties will be high despite their drone advantage. Plus, a failure would hurt them at the negotiating table and will be used by 5th columnists in allied nations to reduce or cease support to Ukraine
>>65237467not true. drones are a powerful tool, but they aren't magical wonder weapons. we know this because if this was true, then Ukraine wouldn't have been able to have the scale of success they've had with their counterattacks in the south. both sides still value rocket and conventional artillery heavily. russia uses more heavy mortars because they can't get artillery to where they need it without Ukrainian drones hitting them, which then allows Ukrainian artillery to have an easier time carrying out strikes.
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>>65237487The drone advantage doesn't cancel out the fact that enemy drones still exist, and that they grind movement warfare to a standstill.>Still, I don't think they have the stomach to congregate several brigades for a concentrated push as casualties will be high despite their drone advantageZelensky doesn't want the bad optics like in 2023 with the Leopard photo spam, and it's not a good idea to waste soldiers when you are low on men and excelling at removing the other side's men. The next Ukrainian offensive sounds like propaganda and paranoia from the Russian side. At best, they might invade Russia again, but what is more likely is Zelensky will continue to whittle away at the Russian troops for another decade until they have a Vietnam moment and implode internally. That really sucks.
>>65237509I think you're partially correct, there's no reason for Ukraine to launch any new offensives right now. I think you're still operating on the belief russia has full on drone swarms along the whole front, when troops have been complaining that they can't even use drones as designed because there's not even enough for supply runs.
>>65237565>troops have been complaining that they can't even use drones as designed because there's not even enough for supply runs.I have heard this too, but if there is no noticeable change in the activity in the front lines in a week or two, I am going to assume it is an exaggeration.
>>65237418Look man, I want to see Freuding smile as much as the next guy but 8 km is not even close to enough. They need a break 25+ km deep, and probably 40 km wide. Then they can send an explloitation force through, hopefully to within range of the highway.And even that is probably cutting things very close.
>>65237648
>no food>no water >no electricity >no gascollapse when?
>>65237487>Ukraine has a massive drone advantage over RussiaUkrainians have said that its a 1.5 to 1 drone advantage in their favor in large parts of the front
>>65237870may we see it?
