Drones Roles:>Recon, FO/FDC Corrective Fire, Strike Vehicles, Long-Range Bombers, Anti-Surface Ship TorpedosDrones cost-effectively counter:>MBT, artillery, APC, IFV, technicals, civilian vehicles, recon elements, squaddies, heavy fire teams, battalions, deminer/EOD, strategic bombers, fighter-bombers, interceptors, corvettes, cruisers, surface ships, submarines, cargo freighters, trains, armored trains, political targets, economic targets, electrical and industrial infrastructure, command centers, assassinating politicians, drones.Drones are countered by:>drones (lel)Drones are NOT countered by:>AA systems, Cope Cage Armor, Camoflage, Decoys, Hardened Shelters, ECCM, shotguns, autoshotguns, netguns, harriers, small armsHow does it feel living in the drone age?
>>65262788How do you counter this?
>>65262804>be cyborg mouse>um, cheesed to meat you?>destroy enemy warmachines>become champion>transcend your moral form into machine godhoodWe can rebuild him.
>>65262804Yes-yes, slave-meat
>>65262804You build a larger drone controlled by cat brain cells.
>>65263139>destroyed by even larger drone controlled by dog brain cellsWhat now?
>>65263153>throw ball so drone gets distracted
>>65262788Drones don’t counter any of those things, you’re a retard hoping for a dreadnought moment that isn’t coming lol lmao.
>>65262788It’s hilarious how desperate thirdies are to pretend this is true, they really hate the fact that they will be dunked on by western powers from now until the end of time.
>>65263192Right now the real winner of drone warfare is Ukraine so I don't get how it's a thirdie thing.
>>65263259Thirdies see Ukraine doing wonders with Aliexpress parts and think "Hes just like me fr fr" when most of the rest of the world is barely figuring out how to drop grenades from DJIs. The biggest issue is that western leaderships are treating smaller drones as a fad like IEDs and not realizing they make world policing harder than ever instead of just carpet bombing your enemy.
>>65263264Carpet bombing your enemy works fine, if you're actually willing to bomb them back to the stoneage so they can't even send orders to aliexpress anymore.The issue is if you're trying to do precision strikes only on acceptable targets and then wonder why they're still able to fight back.
>>65262788>AA systemsthey work, you just need modern ones.
>>65263139>negated by laser pointer
>>65262788>Drones cost-effectively counter:>>MBT, artillery, APC, IFV>Drones are NOT countered by:>>AA systems, Cope Cage Armor, Camoflage, Decoys, Hardened Shelters, ECCM
>>65263390Artillery and APCs are absolutely vulnerable to drones. MBTs and IFVs too although much less so for Western models. De-tracking and mobility kills remain an issue though.OP is absolutely a retarded shill about drones having no counters though, they are absolutely countered by virtually all of those things, it's just about how many are in the sky at once. Perhaps he's a russian, where AA systems now look like vidrel
>>65263399I figure the endpoint for all this is going to be an artillery gun that fires a drone that uses a laser to designate targets for guided shells.
>>65263399>computer fan grill as a sighting deviceHeh
>>65263399>AA systems now look like vidrelIf it works.. it works
>>65262804
>>65263533Just think of it as a cut down servo-skull. You don't have to use human brains for everything.
>>65263153Elephant drones.....
>>65263531(it doesn't work)
>>65263259>>65263264You're both neglecting to mention that the US sent traditional shit like HIMARS and Bradley to Ukraine that did an amazing job. Are we just forgetting Russian state media crying that the HIMARs would move after shooting before the Russians could target them? Or the "White Bradley" that was killing tanks? I refuse to let such kino vanish into the dusty background of history.
>>65263153Cloned Michael Vick brain cells
>>65264743HIMARS and Bradleys work great against cold war threats, drone spam is a whole new thing.
well designed cages that cover everything do counter drones...
>>65262788We thought we would turn into the Imperium of Man. Instead, we For The Greater Good now, Gue'la.
>>65262788>master remotely operating guns in the early 2000s fighting the sand people>exactly the caliber you'd want as a vehicle's personal anti-drone autoturret>NOOOOO WE CAN'T JUST... AIM IT IN THE SKY!>IT'S TOO... LE UNSTABLE! I am entirely unconvinced that there is no possible way to compensate for the recoil to allow this thing to aim upward and shoot down drones other than 'it's hard' and 'dude we'd need like, AI targeting (a software update)'.
>>65262788>fighter-bombers>interceptorsWhat? Even an otherwise obsolete WWII-era rustbucket like the An-2 can destroy as many drones as it has bullets. Drones are hard-countered by air superiority, and sensors can track their signals back to the source and strike drone centers with impunity.
>>65265172>but what if i destroy le droneThe point of these things is you destroy as many as you want until you run out of ammo or gas, then whatever is in your area is vulnerable when you leave to restock
>>65263264The problem with drones is that they're a battlespace shaping tool, no different from artillery or an airstrike. You can't send a drone to capture or hold an objective, and the logistical footprint that enables drone operations on a large scale is actually very sizeable.The problem is that both Ukraine and Russia are nasty, poor thirdies who couldn't figure out actual combined-arms and maneuver warfare because because that shit is hard to do properly.
>>65265195>but what if i have le infinite drones
>>65265809>the logistical footprint that enables drone operations on a large scale is actually very sizeable.Can you explain this?
>>65263153>gunned down by the ATF as is the fate of all dogsAnd now we've come full circle.
>>65265172Good luck hitting something that small with an autocannon, ya bingus
>>65266091That's the point of drones, you monkey, is that you have a lot of them and can continue to make more in mass quantities for cheap. But no I'm clearly stupid just fly around the Apache until you clear those damned fastboats and shaheds out of the strait, no more will ever come after that as we've seen in Ukraine and you've saved democracy forever, oh no look out Mr. Apache a second drone has appeared and lodged itself in your fuselage, bail bail bail
