H&K EditionGuide: https://files.catbox.moe/9g5sv2.pdfPastebin: https://pastebin.com/gs6mLNikPrintable targets and drills:https://www.tier1concealed.com/pages/three-sevens-drillPrevious >>65269599
>>65278292>H&K EditionHell yeah!
SAO won.
>>65278316>won>grip safetyKek
>>65278292>H&K EditionFinally
>>65278322>You lost.It's funny that people bring up grip safety as some kind of own, because it's literally irrelevant. You will never actually notice it when shooting.In any case, it's not required.
>>65278306>unadjusted trigger stop...seriously?
>Hugs and Kisses Edition About time
>>65278292That the airsoft LAM?
>buying HKlol>unironicallylmao
>>65278316It's amazing to think that every other trigger system exists to keep police diversity hires and military conscripts from killing themselves.
So, I went with the Colt Bling Cobra. I still need some inferior grips to enhance the LARP, but I'm happy so far. It's is probably the most satisfying gun to finger fuck I've ever owned. The balance is nice and the DA and SA make my SIG and Beretta triggers feel heavy. Smith was right in having the cylinder release be a push instead of a pull, but I can get over that. It's just so fun to hold. I've shot .38 Detective Specials and J frames, but I'm interested and a bit reluctant to see what a .357 does in this size gun.I'd appreciate any ammo recommendations for a .357 snubby. I grabbed a box of .38 Special Hornady Critical Defense (no .357 CD was available), which is my default flavor, but I want to do a bit of testing before I make a bulk order.Also, post revolvers and pulp detective/film nior gear.
>>65278372Truly astounding. In a well regulated society with appropriate expectations of its members, there would simply be no need.
>>65278384Looks really nice anon.
>>65278337>seriouslyI haven't shot it yet.
So in all of Ben Stoegers videos on grip he talks about not fighting recoil, that death gripping it to try and prevent the muzzle from flipping just fucks your shit up. And this is easily obvious on the literal first shots you take after hearing that advice (at least it was for me) however when I watch videos of GM level shooters like him and others, there is almost no muzzle flip, the gun stays flat as hell allowing for super quick follow up shots.So what gives? Is there some magic way to prevent muzzle flip without putting any force into it? Or is that all recoil spring, weight, ammo, etc tuning?
>>65278428Their technique is that good, they’re not consciously trying to hold the muzzle down, it just returns to zero or barely moves. Ben shoots whatever, blazer brass is his preferred ammo. he’s even shooting duty ammo in quite a few since it’s better for classes if he’s shooting exactly what his students (LE agencies) are shooting. The gun being properly sprung, balanced also helps. Humble marksman is a good shooter, but in his videos there’s a ton muzzle flip
I was thinking of getting a tlr-7 for my mischief machine p365 xmacro. Should I get the HLx regular or sub? Any advice would be appreciated anons
I plan to buy my first handgun soon. Should I just go with an RXM, or should I splurge a little and get a PDP? I just graduated from college and don't have a ton of money.
>>65278465Both are good, I would commit rxm over glock gen3 compatibility.
>>65278428He is mitigating recoil somehow, just in a way he can't explain because talking isn't one of the three things he's good at.
>Build a 2011>Buy a platypus>Buy a DWXWhat other SAO 9mm options should I be considering?
>>65278428He's been strengthening his right arm to counter recoil for tens of thousands of rounds. The moment he uses his left, the pistol flails like yours (vid rel)
>>65278591A humble 9mm 1911
I can't wait to pick up my vp9cc with vortex defender ccw closed emitter red dot sight
>>65278428Some of the GMs don't subscribe to that and they do use a death grip, for example Hunter Constantine and Nils JonassonOutside of the universal basics, different grip techniques work for different people
>>65278615Ah, already have one. Should have stayed I'm looking for a double stack now to add to the mix.
>>65278622Okay that's good to know, Hunter Constantine was actually the one I was watching when that thought came to me. Dudes gun does not move at all.
>>65278628Yeah, I remember he said in one of his videos that it's just easier for his "monkey brain" to just grip as hard as possible and then he can focus better on other things, like vision and movement
>>65278591maybe a CZ TSO?
>>65278591CSX-E
>>65278591Sigger X-Five (a real one, from the Mastershop)Smith & Wesson PPC9Rideout DragonLaugo Ayy
So I have a bit of a dilemma, recently I picked up my first handgun and have been spending quite a bit of time at the range with it. I'm still green but making good progress. I saw that Icarus Precision has the grip for my handgun on sale, and I kind of want to get it as the stock grip does not quite fit my hand. The catch, I own a p320 (I got a deal on it) and I am not sure I should be putting money into the p320 platform before the controversy is settled (if it ever is). What do anons here think? is it a waste to invest in a p320? Is the Icarus A.C.E 320 X-Compact grip even any good? I like the gun and the first 700 rounds I put through it have been flawless but it is a p320 so I am not sure if I can trust it not to have the alleged shake awake feature.
>>65278384When I first got a revolver I couldn't put it down for months. It just lived by me and I stayed playing with it.
>>65278416You will appreciate it more if you shoot it like this first. I put one in mine and it was so worth it.
Why not?
>>65278788Icarus grips are pretty good, the problem would be as you've guessed it, the rest of the gun. These cursed contraptions keep shooting themselves, and since they are very good guns right until the time they snap, despite all the bad rep, people keep using them. Reports of a new sigcident are not even surprising anymore, last one has been a week ago.
>>65278788Bro those grips are like 1/3rd the price towards something better, just save up
>>65278788You should be focusing on getting better, not buying more shit in a vain attempt to buy skill. Dry fire more.
>>65278292Recently traded a gen 3 Glock 26 for a P2000sk v3 in 9mm. Pic related.
I like my 1911, I just wish I had more ammo for it
Target(s) of the month for July. Shoot some redcoats. If you pass the first one, try the second.https://files.catbox.moe/clnjel.pdfhttps://files.catbox.moe/kloq65.pdf
>>65278591Beretta 92XI
>>65278591Taylor TC9
>>65278294>>65278294got any move webms of pistols being shot in slow mo like this?
>>65278292When will you niggers ever just admit that the RXM is the best handgun for the money? Quit lying to yourselves.
>>65278788I personally don't put a lot of stock into the idea of a complete lack of user error. We just don't live in a universe where after this long and this many examples, there wouldn't be at least case-by-case evidence of how the failures are happening. You'll probably never have an issue, but you can just go get the BH Springs Solutions kit, or send it in for the full job, and consider it solved enough
Recommend me a full sized handgun based on my favorite guns that I own.>G17>M9>1911 Govt
>>65278292Terrible footwork, horrible grip.
>>65279371USP 45 or P2000(SK)
Benis XDI hate this gun
>>65278788Save up and buy an RXM instead
>>65278591I'm considering an Operators AOS in 9mm if 1000 buckaroos ever materializes in my disposable income fund but I keep burning that for other stuff I want.
Why do people keep not replying to Burt?>>65279293>RXMI read somewhere that corrosion with those is an issue because of the poor finish.>>65279279Not many TBQH.>>65279162>https://files.catbox.moe/clnjel.pdfNice find, I'll give it a try.>>65279378What's wrong with "floaty thumbs"?>>65279003The relevancy of the Glock 26 had been called into question numerous times after all.>>65278328>>65278344I kneel before HKings.>>65278788>It's the user's fault that the P320 has 0.9mm of safety sear engagement with 1.1mm of slack and no trigger detent whatsoever.
>>65278788>The catch, I own a p320 (I got a deal on it) I bet you did fuckin hell
>>65278581Since it's a malf why does it delay between rounds?
How come the slide locks back when we push it back with the mag in but it doesn't lock back while firing?
>>65278739Interesting, had never even seen the rideout.
>>65279836Usually there's a part of the mag follower that pushes up the slide stop, once the mag is empty
>I read somewhere that corrosion with those is an issue because of the poor finish.Glawk shills never rest
whats the best suppressor host?think about a cz75 with a custom barrelor a glock 19or a beretta m9 / 92what would you use? any other pistols?
>>65279863https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruger_Standard
>>65279872sure but i was thinking 9mm
>>65279863>>65279875Personally, I'm fond of the m9a4 as it comes with suppressor height sights already. Do you own any 9mm handguns?
>>65279862To be fair, the finish in the SR9 was pretty weaksauce. I can't say I'm terribly impressed with the finish on my LCP either, so it wouldn't be too surprising if the RXM finish was mid. It's purely a cosmetic issue, but still.>>65279863They all do fine as suppressor hosts. Pick what you like the most.
>>65279882no i dont own any handguns yet, im european so the waiting period is like 6 months and i only applied for a 9mm and a 22 so i gotta make my choice counti could apply for another one later on tho
>>65279894Well I presume you don't have legal conceal carry so you don't have to worry about size. I would just buy whichever gun you think looks coolest.
>>65279910yeah im currently leaning towards a cz shadow 2 compact unsuppressed and a ruger mark iv 22/45 with a suppressor
HK edition, finally
>>65279894If someone runs in your home do you get sent to the assrape machine for life after shooting them? or is it a good euro country
>>65279920I might suggest you to look at the beretta 92x performance since if you plan to run the shadow 2 the beretta is a bit better
>>65279934its legal to use lethal force in defense of life but not property
>>65279946You vill allow ze carjacking
>>65279949yeah but i got insurance at least
>>65279952I'm feeling enriched
>>6527994294X performance is the new version of the 92X
>>65279863Any, none. They all have the same foibles, even the Beretta is not immune to boosters. There's only one gun that is objectively the best suppressor host and it was never produced.
>>65280007Just put it in the right colors and this thing looks like it was made by a power tool company.
>>65278869>new sigcident, last one has been a week ago.That was during reholstering if I recall. In this case think it is more likely it was just a simple accident than the P320 failing exactly at the same moment as the most common cause of unintended discharges. Not saying the P320 is safe however.>>65278916>grips are like 1/3rd the price towards something betterHence my hesitation, I will probably hold off for now I guess. I just don't want to be in the position later where I want to buy it and find out they have permanently discontinued the compact size. It would not surprise me if they are clearing them out right now.>>65278956>not buying more shit in a vain attempt to buy skill. Dry fire more.I was planing on getting it more for the vanity than the skill. I did not expect it to make me much, if at all, better. I already have another 1500 rounds earmarked for practice. Any dry fire drills you recommend? also any slow fire only (Fudd range limitations) drill recommendations?
>>65280007That's unbelievable
>>65280016>>65279311>We just don't live in a universe where after this long and this many examples,While I am in the camp that the incident rate of the alleged problems is probably overstated. Social media tends to amplify the perceived frequency of things. I am also certainly not fully convinced that the P320 is does not have safety problems. For the time being I was intending on holding off carrying the P320 and just using it as a range gun or for home defense if necessary. Honestly, I kind of want a manual safety on my first carry gun. I don't Glock leg any more than I want to get Sigged.>you can just go get the BH Springs Solutions kit, or send it in for the full job, and consider it solved enoughI was considering getting them or just replacing my OEM sear springs at a more aggressive maintenance schedule. I tend to think that if the fix were just as simple as +p sear springs it would be provable and Sig would have done it already. What is the "full job"?>>65279573>Save up and buy an RXM insteadStrongly considering it, I was what I was looking at before I found the aggressively priced P320 on the shelf. I have been burned by Ruger's somewhat dodgy QC before though, and the compact sized grip was less comfortable. I would probably get the full sized one if I went this route. Also considering a M&P Bodyguard 2.0 or Sig 365 for concealed carry.>>65279701>P320 has limited sear engagement and no trigger safetyI did not come here to whiteknight the P320, if I 100% thought it were fine I would not have asked the question and just bought the grip. More sear engagement and a trigger dingus option would be nice however.>>65279734>I bet you didI bought a P320 RXP XCOMPACT with optic and 10 oem mags for ~$300. An equivalent RXM setup would have cost well more than double. Even the cheapest plain jane used Glock with 2 mags would have cost more. My local gun shop's used section is not typically this cheap, the prior owner consigned it cheap, not the shop.
>>65280060>I bought a P320 RXP XCOMPACT with optic and 10 oem mags for ~$300. An equivalent RXM setup would have cost well more than double. Even the cheapest plain jane used Glock with 2 mags would have cost more. My local gun shop's used section is not typically this cheap, the prior owner consigned it cheap, not the shop.You couldn't pay me to shoot a p320
>>65280050Start watching Ben Stoeger on YouTube
>>65278856I adjusted it and feel the difference. I put some green threadlocker in the screw hole and it's sitting muzzle up on my reloading bench for the next few hours.
>>65280060>I bought a P320 RXP XCOMPACT with optic and 10 oem mags for ~$300This is why it's a trap. Again, not only is it cheap, it's a really good gun, too. RXM will feel rough compared to it. It's so easy to rationalize keeping it. You'll just maintain it really meticulously and verify that all the safety features are working. Right? Do you have a habit of verifying the striker block functions well? How many times did you disassemble the FCU just to look at twin sear springs so far?
>>65279545That's disappointing to hear.
Hot takeI think worrying about height over bore or deck height for pistol optics is a memeIt's like, when for AR15s, people in the 2000's were obsessed with keeping it lower than a carry handle, but then in the 2010s skyscraper mounts became popular, the opposite! And now the common height is coming back down to normalThe deck height just doesnt really matter if you get used to the index/pointing
>>65280127Oh pray tell anon exactly which parts will he verify? Which pieces should be within which dimensional tolerances to ensure safety? What are the indicators that a P320 is about to take your leg off? How often do you verify the function of the striker block in the many many firearms that you very much own? Please enlighten us maestro.
>>65280141Yeah
>>65280143Honestly even on glocks/pdp/p365 I like to verify that safety plunger is springy and doesn't stick in depressed position, and striker cannot move forward when it is not pushed in. That's essentially the whole safety. On P320, I would mistrust sear springs being clean and not buckling towards each other, and tangling with each other. Since P320 safety is a big public scandal, slowly rolling for years, there are a lot of discussions that point out things like these.
>>65278788As long as you keep the 320 to the range and don't carry it I see nothing wrong with buying the Icarus grip as they ARE really really really nice. Get good enough that you feel comfortable shooting, then buy another carry pistol. There isn't any danger to the sig 320 even if it had 100% chance of the failures we have seen if you just don't have a round chambered in it when you're not pointing it down range.I really like my buddies sig 320 10mm>>65279371You seem to like big chunky guns so without any price controls in your post sig 226 x5 legion if you wana spend a lot and a Tisas 2011 if you don't.
>>65280167>>65280127>I like to verify that safety plunger is springy and doesn't stick in depressed position, and striker cannot move forward when it is not pushed in.Yes, I checked the striker safety and it feels fine and does block the striker. I still need to do a complete FCU tear down and check the sear springs. I was planning on preemptively replacing the striker safety and sear springs later this year just in case. As of this point I am not planning on carrying it, so at least if it goes off uncommanded, it goes off down range and not into me.
>>65280132Pros: looks beautifulCons: everything elseI'd take a P320 over it
>>65280226>There isn't any danger to the sig 320 even if it had 100% chance of the failures we have seen if you just don't have a round chambered in it when you're not pointing it down range.I would not of bought it if I thought otherwise. Still it does feel kind of wrong to consider putting money into an "untrustworthy" gun that can't even be used in a lot of competitions. It does shoot nice at least.>Get good enough that you feel comfortable shootingyeah, I am still trying to stop anticipating recoil/preemptively flinching. When that happens I hit way low. It is annoying because I don't do it intentionally and its not like the pistol actually kicks that hard. Probably just a subconscious reaction to the loud noise of firing. I am getting better but I would like it gone as it is definitely the most impactful fault in my form.I hope the P320 uncertainty is resolved at some point one way or the other. It is in a weird spot right now where it is commonly felt to be sketchy and there is some compelling anecdotal evidence but not much in the way of hard repeatable evidence of failure despite all the attention on it. If Sig is covering up I expect it will come to light eventually but even they may not know what is going on or how to fix it.
>>65280277Have you seen the gray guns tab trigger that supposedly makes the gun safe? 165 tho, and I still probably wouldn't trust it
>>65279388>USP 45 or P2000(SK)hell yeah, USP is on my list>>65280226>You seem to like big chunky guns so without any price controls in your post sig 226 x5 legion if you wana spend a lot and a Tisas 2011 if you don't.ThxI have normal sized hands but long ass fingers. I can manipulate an M9 controls without breaking my grip. I decided I've got my concealed guns nailed down with a G19/26 and a J frame so I'm only buying full sized handguns from now on.
>>65280336textbook throwing good money after w
>>65280346Is it a w though? I wouldn't even trust it at the range the way it standsIt's no real skin off my back either way. I run higher quality stuff than a swarthy sigger
https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/performance-center-model-460xvrGot to shoot this time day for the first time. Quite the experience. I like how you can shoot .45LC out of it as well and it has less felt recoil than .38 out of a .357
>>65279371P30 (size of your choice) with the LEM trigger
>>65279545What do you not like about it?
>>65280341Go to a gun shop and pick up a cheap 2011 and a sig x5 if you can, see what each one gets you. I think both will match the hands you have, and it's kinda up to how much you want to spend at that point. One of these days I'm gonna get a stainless sig x5 and put it in a snapping turtle leather holster.
>>65280365It just looks so sick bros
>>65280363It's just overall poorly designed and not very CZ-like at all
>>65280226>P320 xten I've been waiting for panicked siggers to sell these below 400 for the last few years and I don't think it's ever gonna happen. Also >226 digits Nice
>>65280365>goyslop
>>65280373That is...certainly a holster of all time.
Burt I've been busy so I haven't taken any pics but thank you so much for the Ruger posters and coffee. You've got a heart of gold; don't let em take it from you
>>65278788>I own a p320 >(I got a deal on it)If there's a reason for the "deal," perhaps it's not a "deal." I'd venture to say that if you paid more than $100, you got completely fucking screwed.
>>65280401That’s nothing compared to the alligator asshole holster
Just got back from the range
>>65280336>Have you seen the gray guns tab trigger that supposedly makes the gun safe?I have, though I don't know if it really fixes the problem. Trigger safeties first and foremost are inertial drop safeties, which has supposedly been fixed on the P320 and is not the cause of the holster discharges in any case. Bladed trigger safeties can also help prevent trigger snags from setting off the gun. If snagged triggers were the cause of all the uncommanded discharges then that would imply at that at least at a mechanical level the P320 was already safe and the bladed trigger safety itself only helps prevent user error. Even grayguns themselves say: "This trigger does not make the P320 inherently safer. It imposes a mechanical lock that the shooter must disengage before the trigger travels rearward." If I already trusted the P320 I would probably get it, but I am not sure about it right now.I also thought about adding a manual safety but it is like $200 and may or may not actually fix the alleged P320 problem. If a P320 is both capable of having the sear and safety sear notch slip and has non functioning striker safety then neither a manual nor trigger safety will fix it and make it safe. The question is how many (if any) P320's shipped like that and how easy or probable is it for a working P320 to be rendered into such a state though wear, debris, neglect, or improper reassembly.As the other anon said I am leery about possibly throwing good money after bad.
>>65280373Beef jerky concealment
Interesting article that I cannot seem to nail down the origin of. Found it on a defunct shooting blog while researching the Bianchi Cup tombstone target.
>>65280524Huh. I’ve been doing that drill at my local steel challenge matches but modified
I currently have a L9A1 HP clone, and a Sig P232I like how slim they are, but I realized I went way too hard into that thinking of going small and classic and they are too hard to get two hands on effectivelyI see where I went wrong with starting off, and want to try to get something for carry that works better now with what I have learned (small, but with room for thumbs)Can you all here help me narrow down my lists or give me other ideas:larger, but still compact:-S&W 39-2 (feels great in the hand, but a lot of pistol for low capacity)-CZ P-01/PCR (solid and proven, but I feel like the slide may be too thin to easily operate)-Sig P239 (seems like a good shape but again lower capacity)-HK P30SK (nice but a lot of HK plastic)-Sig P225 (thin but may still be large for its capacity, like the 39-2)Super compact for super easy CC:-Sig P238 or 938-Kimber micro 9s or micro 380sI feel like right in the middle of these two sizes is the S&W CSX E-Series
>>65280537P30SK LEM, throw in a greyguns short reset kit, end of conversation
>>65280537PX4 compact carry 2, best DA/SA carry gun ever made CSX e series MIMber KDS9C
>>65280167You answered zero of my questions. Do you want to take another swing or just shut up and fade away in cowardice?
>>65279545I have heard that is common. Take the .45 2011 pill.
>>65280537I echo the PX4anon. It even comes with multiple backstraps so you can fit it to your hand
>>65280537Vp9cc
>>65278867Because of the lack of holsters made for it and the absurd price of them when they are made, not to mention that pistol bayonet companies are terrible at staying in business.
I'm going to paint new range marker numbers at my range, guerilla style. But how do I resist the urge to do them in pink Comic Sans
Woe is me
95% of the threads on this board are garbage
>>65280778>his range has action bays and he still shoots staticBurt I'd kill for some fucking action bays, you gotta make the most of what you got there
>listened to hg for months about how shit my shooting is and keep practicing and dry firing>absolutely demolish everyone in my CCL classKek, thanks autists.Also the range has an lightly used M&P competitor with a vortex dot already on it for sale for $800, I'm struggling to not get it it. I just spent $700 on a helmet yesterday. Tell me I shouldn't buy it.
>>65280060>What is the "full job"?They add material to the sear and basically overspring the entire thing so it's super tight. Adds about a pound to the trigger, but also makes the trigger pretty crispy. I wouldn't bother with it but I know some guys get hyper paranoid about being the .01% that might have a malfunction
>>65280866My range has them out to 200y and one of them has a shoot house. I haven't used that one yet.
>>65280867What helmet?
>>65280876Arai Regent X. I need a new race helmet because mine was produced october 2020, so the tracks won't let me use it. (I bought it last fucking year)
What drills do you guys actually do at the range?
>>65280871It's actually depressing how dogshit the gun culture is in my area. Most ranges are fudd, and the ones that aren't are so exclusive you basically have to know a member to get in. The one and only saving grace is that the state maintains public ranges that offer a lot of freedom if you go at the right time. (i.e. on a weekday when the place isn't crawling with 60IQ retards).
>>65280891Draw, magdump, run away
>>65280900I was blown away when I moved here it is so much different from everywhere else I have lived. One thing that's a little alarming is the range used to have closed memberships, then limited memberships open one month a year, to open enrollment year round. They're bleeding members. It's sad because it's such a nice place and they are still making improvements on it.
>>65280905And call 911For practice dialing it
>>65278292This must be fate, i traded in my po7 that i traded in my vp9 for to get a used p30 with factory LEM. why the fuck does no other hammer fired gun have a LEM-like version? this is an amazing improvement from the DA/SA from the regular P30 and much better than a stock po7
>>65280891>1-shot drill: Start from sights on target. Do not prep trigger. Fire one shot when the timer goes off, repeat.>10-10-10 drill: Start from ready position (low, high, compressed, whatever) 10 shots, from 10 yards, in a par time of 10 seconds on a B-8 target (5.5 inch bullseye) Start from holster or ready position. >25yd stage of the FBI bullseye course, tightened time standard:Start from holster. 15 rounds on a B8 target from 25yds. 1 minute par time.
>>65278788just buy a glock
>>65280914>>65280905>not bringing an older woman with you to run the "MY BABY DID NOTHING WRONG" drillnot going to make it
>>65280657Vp9a1K
>>65280891
>>65280925>why the fuck does no other hammer fired gun have a LEM-like versionBecause no one wants it. You buy a hammer fired gun because you want a hammer fired gun and usually DA/SA, if want to pretend like you're shooting a striker gun why not buy one of the millions of them with better aftermarket and holster support? LEM was just made so they could still bid on LEO contracts that required a single type of trigger pull.I'm curious what you actually like about it.
>>65280891>1 shot draw, A zone 7 yards: 10 rounds>slow fire zero confirmation >2 shot double draw, A zone: 20 rounds >1 shot draw, 3x5 note card on the A = size of a human heart, 7 yards: 10 rounds >2 shot doubles to the heart: 20 rounds>bill drills, sub 2 second pace >4 aces drill, draw, 2 shots, reload, 2 shots. aiming for sub 4 seconds
>>65280949It's basically feels like a da/sa with a slight trigger job that feels very easy to train with, and i like not having to rack the slide back for dry-fire. I feel that it's the best of DA/SA and striker, but i completely understand why LEO/MIL would just prefer a striker than have a highly specific firing system.
>>65278316>>65278372The 1911 in it's various forms is the white man's gun.>manual of arms requires iq above room temperature>excellent trigger & ergonomics for precise & proper shot placement instead of spray and pray>tuneups, upgrades and fixes require actual skill & mechanical knowledge beyond "chimp uses hammer to bash out pin">can be built for any configuration you like from 2011 hicaps to precision bullseyes>created by JMB to kill brown people>elegant sleek lines, a classy & beautiful gun to look atDa/sa are honorary whitesGlocks & other polymer goyslop are for niggers, jeets, beaners, troons and womenKeep posting your superior handguns
>>65280997Based as fuck. Burn all strikerslop in a fire.
>>65280866I get plenty of juice out of slapping gongs, I don't need to play at Dynamic Donny>>>/wsg/6185257
>>65280997>>65281004I own a stock Glock to stay proficient with the trigger so I don't look like a retard if I have to teach someone to shoot one. Nothing worse than your peers thinking my nice gun = my skill.
>>65281009I don't know how euros shoot precisely with those forward-mag .22s. So front hebby
>>65281036You can just get gud with the DA trigger. If you can shoot an HK DA trigger well you can shoot anything well.
>>65281009How does ETS do for you?
>revolverfag next to you firing his .44 magnum +P+ handloaded ammoMan, I hate revolver fags
>>65281090Shoot a 12.5" .308 with a muzzle break then.
>>65281067I've had a few but never put anywhere near enough rounds through any one of them to judge. They seem to do fine but who knows
>>65278867>Why not?Bad for batoning kindling.
>>65281090I'm usually the only revolverfag at the range and the worst I shoot is .357 Mag. The only group I usually hate are those that shoot rifle/shotgun at indoor ranges
>>65281036Just get a LEM HK gun.
>>65281166LEM sucks, HK DA pulls suck ass
>>65281111I have one with about 200 through it and no malfunctions so far, just wondering if you had any info
My dad passed away very recently. He was a big gun guy, and had quite a few firearms. He told me to go through his guns and take whatever I wanted.I don't know much of anything about handguns - I only really have experience with AR-15s - so I spent a few hours doing some quick research on what he left behind. I didn't want to just take all the guns - what am I gonna do with like, eight different 9mm pistols? - so I settled on picking one of each of the calibers represented. I couldn't decide between a couple of the .22s - they both looked pretty fun - so I just picked both.Pic related is what I settled on.Thoughts?
>>65281106kek, sadly our range have areas dedicated to every kind of gun, there's one for handguns, one for .22lr, one for rifles and shotguns and even one for black powder.
>>65280463>>65280336>>65280277>>65280226>>65278788Has there every been this much controversy over any other handgun in history? The fact that there are so many proven option out there and people are STILL buying this piece of shit is astounding. The average American truly is dumber than cattle. (I am an American)
>>65281187what else did he have, the staccato P4 was a good choice. the S&W victory was also good I thinkhow can we rate your choices if we didn't know what there was to choose from? You could have passed up on a 20k 1911/2011 or something
>>65281195American shooters are very cheap. We got used to quality European guns because over there shooting is a life investment, it takes a lot of time and money comparatively speaking and thus the shooters expect more. Here in the states people just want a cheap gun to for carry/HD/mag dumping at the range.
>>65281128>shotgun at indoor rangesLook motherfucker the outdoor range near me only lets me shoot seated and that's fucking retarded for shooting shotguns.
>>65281187Your dad had pretty solid taste. That Staccato is worth ~2k, so good job keeping it. Don’t sell the rest on consignment, you’ll get robbed by the store. Sell them yourself, or just keep them to remember your pops. Sorry about your dad.
>>65281195The average American is both wealthier and smarter than the average European once you filter out all the darkies. >>65281187>what am I gonna do with like, eight different 9mm pistols?Still not be satisfied, believe me
>>65281119
>>65281195The average American sees something the army has and wants to get the closest thing to that they can for larp, even if it's shit
>>65281283I wouldn't say the "average American". Most Americans I know with Sig handguns have either 226s or p365s. The only guys I know with p320s are active duty military who want to practice in their free time or old fudds who don't know any better
I think he's referring to Ben Stoeger.>>65280141>in the 2010s skyscraper mounts became popularThat's because NVG's were the meta back then.>>65279886That guy probably doesn't even own an RXM and just wants someone baited into purchasing a bad pistol.>>65279946>lethal force in defenseNTA but shooting a home invader is self defense because they kill victims all the time.>>65280060I replied to you about the P320 by mistake, kek.>>65280997>created by JMB to kill brown peopleIt instead was used against Europeans. Glock has done the greatest amount of melanin reduction.>>65280524>stop a line of charging men>"practical" use of the handgunPerhaps for infantry which that seems to have been written with in mind but a laughable concept for EDC.
>>65281250Jesus
>>65281390I like Jared but I never see him shooting in anyway that isn't 30 sec splits >RXM>A bad pistol555-COME-ON-NOW
>>65281390I'm not listening to rajeet's advice on anything at all ever under any circumstances.
>>65280141Manufacturers are just lazy. The Dragon is proof of that.>>65280277There is nothing uncertain about it. If you compare the incident number and the short time in which they occurred to any other comparable gun, It becomes obvious the p320 is a dangerous piece of garbage. Trying to justify it is like how people justify owning pitbulls these days.
>>65281407There's a guy I do a lot of shooting with who had an RXM and he's probably 1700-1900 rounds with me and he's never had a malfunction with it. His is barebones, but feels great in the hand. Magpul did well on it. SNAPbin has to shill for glock or else he can't get an erection that night
>>65278453>Should I get the HLx regular or sub?I got the sub for mine. Never tried the HL so I can't comment on the diff, but haven't had any complaints with the sub-7. I wanted this IWB holster from Black Arch so, that's why I bought it.BTW if you're a safety-fag like me, that's a non-ambi extended safety from Armory Craft. $40. I highly recommend it. The stock safety is difficult to engage on the mystery machine grip, and the ambidextrous extended one is a bit too wide.
>>65278440>>65278428Alright, went back to the range. My muzzle here looks flat but I have 4 charlies. I think this looks "good" and would meet youtuber standards but I don't actually have great hits here. Many many youtubers are just shooting steel, They shoot very generous steel targets which hide the quality of the hits. They shoot steel because it's also alot more fun and you don't need to paste and replace targets so often. It's technique, isoceles, wrist, grip pressure. Do whatever Ben Stoeger currently tells you, his technique has evolved, he has videos and books that are like 12 years old that are obsolete/contradicted by his current information
>>65281444Why are they all key holing?
>>65281447.45 is subsonic and I was shooting speer lawman which is round nose, I try to shoot winchester red box which is flat nose which doesn't tearsubsonic + round nose, tears paper easyalso I swapped to these cheap "action" targets that are very light weight paper. My older targets from CHL targets were thicker paper. >Action targets 38 cents per target for 100>CHL targets 50 cents per target for 100
>>65281409Based
>>65281409based
>>65281447Hello noguns.
>>65281205Most of the rest were 9mm Glocks and Sigs. I did check out the typical price of each of the guns, though it wasn't the only factor I considered. There was nothing super rare or crazy expensive. >>65281221>or just keep them to remember your pops.Yeah, I intend to hold on to these as something to remember him by. Guns were something we would bond over. I'd tell him about my latest AR build, and he'd tell me about how much fun he was having with his latest range toy. I remember him telling me about a couple of these. I'll be thinking of him when I take them shooting. >>65281223Ha! I have a pretty small living space; I decided I was going to carefully pick a limited selection because I just don't have the space for too much.
>>65281474I think you did very well, Anon, considering your situation. I'm sorry for your loss
>>65281474Okay, I was just asking if he had any better 1911s. While the Sig 1911 X carry or whatever the fuck they call it, it’s featured quite well, it’s made by Sig. honestly everything I would want in a carry 1911 God bless
>>65279293I'd honestly trust the American or Security 9 out of the box, RXM still has teething issues. Great gun tho. Well timed release, considering Glock shitting xeir panties and backstabbing everyone by folding just to save their asses (and still catching several civil cases lol). Ruger is gonna make off like a bandit these next few years.>>65279701>I read somewhere that corrosion with those is an issue because of the poor finish.Easily fixed by using an OEM Gen3 slide like God intended. What's more worrisome is the extractor issues, but that's also an easy part swap.
>>65279545In my experience, that type of malfunction is caused by out of spec magazine feed lips. I'd try a different magazine, if you haven't already.
>>65279293TRUTHEM NUKEM
>>65279293That’s a funny way to spell CZ p-10
Gentlemen
>>65281561never held a beretta beforepeople say its bigis it too big anon? im considering buying one myselfbut i have medium sized hands
>>65281487I have seven mags for it, two of which are Mec-Gar and malfunction all the timeThe factory mags will not feed the first round even if you have more than 8 in the mag, just tired of this POS
>>65281564It’s not too big. The only people who think it’s too big is children, people with tiny hands and people who haven’t held one before
>>65281564I thought the 92 was too big (I also have medium hands) until I got think G10 grips from LOK. Now it fits my hand like fucking Excalibur
>>65281390>NVG's were the metaStill are. Thermals and stuff doesn't make then less important.
Trigger discipline is for fuckin nancies
>>65281561Hell yeah, fren!
>>65281407>>65281409I honestly like bullseye and international style shooting but goddamn this kid gets on my nerves. Being so anti practical shooting is incredibly fucking gay.
>>65281561>american made berettayikes
>>65281407>never see him shooting in anyway that isn't 30 secFair dinkum.>>65281428>1700-1900 rounds with me and he's never had a malfunctionOr you made that up completely and don't even own an RXM which would explain the lack of photos. Maybe you think it's funny for people to lose money or worse: get KITS because you're a mental case.>>65281484>using an OEM Gen3 slide>extractor issues, but that's also an easy part swapBut then you would end up paying the price of an actual Glock.>>65281573NVG's are for navigation. Thermal optics are for combat.
>>65281564I have medium size hands and the Beretta they lend me fitted me like a glove, the only downside is the single action, the trigger is too deep.
>>65281567Sell it to some czechaboo and buy a tanfoglio or a p220 and enjoy
>>65281561I can see where the budget ran out
>>65278867A rifle with bayonet becomes a pike.A handgun with bayonet is becomes a pike, without a handle.
>>65281679the gun?
>SNAPbin shows he has the reading comprehension of a niggerlike pottery
>>65281409He's actually filipino
>>65281693I'd BYFAIYSTSTMF.
>>65281168>LEM sucks, HK DA pulls suck assJust noguns opinions...
>>65281724Why don't women simply conceal carry between their booba?
>>65278453It's really going to come down to your particular use case and personal taste, as the main differences between the hlx and hlx sub that actually matter are 0.4 inches and 10,000 candela. The 13,000 total candela that the sub gets you isn't bad at all, especially considering that most people put up with the 500 lumens and 5,000 total candela output of the tlr 7a for the longest time. Personally, I would argue that the extra 0.4 inches down your pants is pretty negligible (assuming your xmacro is for concealed carry use) and well worth putting up with for the extra 10,000 candela that the hlx gets you. But if you're super autistic about having your flashlight bezel be as close to equal length with your muzzle as possible, then the hlx sub definitely has enough juice to get the job done.
bacon doesn't belong on cheeseburgers what gun do you think i cc?
>>65281776We don't have balls to blow off anymore. Checked.
looking at a cheetah 80x beretta .380 with suppressor
>>65281808>.380
>>65281629Funny, PX4Anon or whoever said no one has ever complained about the Beretta 92 trigger breaking too far back...
>>65280997.45 ACP has a direct lineage to the Colt Walker revolver as well. The first repeating military sidearm Americans have been carrying .45 caliber sidearms for 180 years
>>65281838I remember people getting the short reach trigger to make it break even further back
>>65281854Probably more for the DA starting length than anything
>>65281724Women make 9mm look like 10mm but she has good return to zero at least>>65281779RPG>>65281838I've never minded it but the trigger can feel a little weird due to it being so far back.
Is the PX4 OR?
>>65281618NTA but lmao, my RXM has been perfectly reliable and it feels great. Why are you such a gremlin?
>>65281838I'm just giving my opinion, I'm not that used to DA/SA, I'm more a striker fired slop guy.The only DA/SA gun I own is an USP (the grip feels terrible), the SF gun that fits my hand the best is the CZ P10, and the gun I shoot the most is a G17.
>>65282419>the grip feels terribleYa got soft hands boy, usp grip locks you in like shit on a blanket
>>65281564My wife shoots a 92 better than any of the 10 or so other handguns I've gotten her behind. I doubt your hands are smaller than hers, at least not significantly.
>>65281444>I don't actually have great hitsSo your ultimate goal is a fist sized group in the A-zone with a .20s average split. I wonder if Eli Dicken was practicing Bill drills religiously as you are before he slotted the Greenwood Mall shooter without a pistol optic from beyond seven yards. >>65281781>don't have balls to blow offu wot>>65281992lol yea>>65282382>my RXM has been perfectly reliable>no photos whatsoeverI'm pressing (X) to doubt.
Made it though by first GPA match yesterday bros, did horrible but didn’t get DQ’d.
>>65282487I should buy gloves, but I don't want to look autistic at the range.
>>65282419No, I agree with youI have more like Medium hands, and I love the 92. I do wish the trigger broke slightly more forward as well
>>65282548Have to start somewhere, brother. Good job.
>>65282382I agree with >>65282530Post some pics if nothing else because I'm curious about the wear on the pistol. I want to see how a regularly shot and carried RXM's finish holds up compared to other rugers. The rental range model I shot had some reliability issues but it also was bone desert ass dry and probably just needed lube.
>>65281822It's what the average shooter carries. Hell, maybe it's even bigger than average. More than 380 hurts. Motion of the ocean and all that.
>>65281822What's wrong with James Bond and Hitler's caliber?
>>65282630both are fictional characters that never actually killed anyone
>>65281618>But then you would end up paying the price of an actual Glock.The fire control insert + grip can be found for like $270, and you can get a good deal for complete G.3 slides.
>>65282530You keep spouting off Eli dickens but he did not shoot at those distances or speed
do i buy gun first or go take classes first or just carry a club with me
>>65282530Pastebin its clear why you carry and frankly its going to get you killed, keep it up.
>>65282530What is like holding a gun that killed someone? My guns are all virgins, not even wildlife kills.
>>65282687You don’t need to take classes, it can help, but there is tons of free information on YouTube and free training you can do. There’s tons of gimmick stuff you can buy to do training like ACE VR, mantis X titan laser dry fire guns etc Classes can actually hurt more than they help if some idiot teaches you bullshit
>>65282702What do you mean? I don't have to spend $1500 in a two day intensive course of situational awareness(meals not included)?
>>65282702i see, thanks. i'll do some more reading and look around before i spend any money.
>>65282548Congrats Anon! Keep it up!
>>65278428just letting your arm and shoulder "do the work" and just keeping your hands firm and up high?most of its timing the flip not fighting muzzle flip, its feeling when the muzzle fully returns and you have full front sight picture on target again
>>65282630didnt james bond have a .32?
>>65282714Ben Stoeger’s videos and his friends are probably the best trainers available online, he puts his entire class on YouTube, but he’s a more advanced shooter/training resource. He trains alot of Mil, LE, and special forces. You should look up basic manual of arms of how handguns work, what all the buttons and levers do, and then look up isoceles stance. It’s the best and most intuitive shooting technique for handguns.
>>65282754Meant for >>65282720
>>65282756neat, thanks
Buddy aint no way no gotdamn RXM even comes close to the value of a GLOCK, people try saying they're just as reliable, have the same aftermarket, come optic cut standard, and save you 200$ on average vs a glock 19 but buddy they're all Big Ruger shills. Yep I've been with glock over 10 years and aint never had one never have no problem I tell you what. THEM RXM SISSIES be trying to take your hard earned cash
>>65282779Happy 4th of July brother
Is this shit really worth 2k?
>>65282788I mean, you selected all the options that makes it 2.1k You’re paying like a 200 dollar premium to have the gun come directly from LTT.I prefer the compact IMO, the full-size isn’t as interesting and the compact cycles more aggressively which I like
Hello Kitty thread. On a related note: There's a P2000 for sale locally, is the juice worth the squeeze? I dig my USP and MK23 a lot.
>>65282810USP is better for pistol round, only people who can’t aim use the P2000
>the only other Predator double stack is sale for 9990https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/pistols/nighthawk-custom-pistols/nighthawk-custom-predator-2011-double-stack-ios-9-mm.cfm?gun_id=103045912
Am I just shitty at finding mags or are ones for the Beretta 20x just unobtanium
This lil nigga shoots p good and I actually quite like the dotNot a ton snappier than my 509c
>>65282936Too bad purists hate it because it allegedly looks too much like a Taurus. I do think no paddle mag release was a mistake, but I get it was designed by HKUSA and Americans can't into the paddle release for some reason.
>>65282950Dis the vp9cc, made in their German factory, got the paddles. You're thinking of the cc9
>>65282950that's not the cc9 anon
>>65282956>>65282957FUCK
>>65282950That’s the cheap crap 9.
>>65282959All good anon, you were right about the cc9 though it's an ugly blob and that getting unveiled after they showed us the sfp9cc at shot shot was the biggest cock tease. Button mag release, not ambi. Gross>Pic rel
>>65282682That's my point, he (probably) wasn't chasing splits inside the A-zone prior to the day he ventilated a serial killer who was armed with an AR-15. Also, a failure drill makes more sense than a Bill Wilson because the proliferation of ballistic vests and plate carriers.>>65282689>why you carryFor self defense.>its going to get you killedFrig off Bloomberg.>>65282620>rental range model I shot had some reliability issuesMany such cases, how were the ergos and recoil impulse?>>65282654That does sound a little more attractive than a Gen6 G19. Thanks for the knowledge transfer.>>65282698>holding a gun that killed someone?I pray that none of us ever have to, anon.
>>65283124Eli Dickens shot a lot more than you did
Please. Just stop replying to him. Just ignore him.
>he thinks the bill drill is a combat drill>he calls it a “failure to stop” drill because he’s a woke liberal pansy
>>65283130Nobody knows how much he shoots or what his training regiment happens to be.
>>65283160SNAPbin samefags a lot
>>65282419People like you are why hk ruined perfection and haven’t made a good grip since the usp. You fucking faggot kill yourself right now with the usp. Put the gun in your mouth and pull the trigger as many times as you can. Fucking pussy. Too much gets ruined to cater to whiny faggots.
>>65283214>haven’t made a good grip since the usp. You fucking faggot kill yourself right now with the usp.I mean the usp has by far the best texture and if you have hands big enough for it, it's hard to beat. But the p30 has a really nice grip too. Its just more ergonomic, and less grippy
>>65283214Sonion...
>>65283188Why am I seeing cf basketweave everywhere lately? I only got it because it shipped faster than the other colors on amazon.
>>65283246
https://youtu.be/sSpKUiNBXd8?si=uJRak23U6EanhN-S
>>65283230>took the TRS outGood freakin luck bud
>>65283230It took me a month to get my TRS back in
>>65283268I did it without tools or instructions a long time ago. I used my keys and a pen for punches.
>>65283268>>65283276I must've got lucky cause I had no problem with the needle nose.
>>65282785you too
>>65282350No, you can get it cut at Langdon.
>>65283214M&P is the only thing that holds a candle to the USP in my mind. As far as grip and texture.
>>65283284Madman
>>65283338Hey fuck you Burt I was at my friends place and he didn't have any tools or internet so I couldn't look up instructions. I took it apart and put it back together using only logic. A woman could never.
>>65280589Beyond based
>>65283338>>65283338I'm sorry Burt. I took my glasses off and thought this said Madam.
>>65283355How do those shoot? Are the MecGar mags reliable?
>>65283124this scene would have looked gay af if it was appendix carry
>>65283124>Many such cases, how were the ergos and recoil impulse?Ergos were slightly better than glock for me with things like the grip texture being a bit more grippy and magazine release button being bigger and better contoured for human hands and not whatever glock lovers have attached to their wrist. I also liked the trigger better than the glock gen 5 I felt side by side. It still has a bit of that kitchen sink sponge feel that glock triggers have but it wasn't as bad as the glock 19 they had in the case. As for the second half of your question, if you look at my groups here >>65282620 the top left is my 509c I had about 14k rounds through at that point, top right is the RXM, and middle is RXM fast fire as quick as I could get sights on target. As you can see the RXM despite my trigger gripes held it's own against a gun I'm far more familiar with during slow fire. It was with fast fire the group opened up quite a bit due to the recoil impulse/muzzle flip and spongey long trigger pull. I find with guns that have longer trigger resets and long walls before the break that my groups end up getting much worse with fast fire, and this was no different. Anyways here is a set of groups I assume is left 509c right RXM but it's been too long and I have zero memory of this range trip other than that this particular rental range RXM was the bone dry one that had all the failures. I really think just a drop of lube would have fixed the problems but consider that other guns can run bone dry without problems.
>>65283409Man I want an RXMBut can't justify it because Euro and it has the America tax on top making it a >€900 gun
>>65281564>never held a beretta before>people say its big>is it too big anon? im considering buying one myself>but i have medium sized handsI'd say it's quite the opposite honestly. I have long hands, and my experience is that 92 grips are for teeny tiny babby hands. I can barely get a support hand on one.
>>65283420>€900 gunIt's a good budget option for 300 euro, but for 950 eurobucks I assume it's competition is stuff like an actual glock, CZ p01, Smith and Wesson 2.0 ect and for that price you're better off with those options imho. A hotdog may be a great budget meal but that doesn't make it a great meal, ya know? Same thing with the RXM. Great budget gun, but not a great gun with price removed from the equation.Where in euroland are you? Whats the best part of your country to visit and what regional meal should I try?
If price were taken out of the equation (which it isn't this is real life) I'd probably grab the RXM over the glock19 because that magpul furnishing feels so fucking good
I've only shot an RXM once, but I really don't understand what you guys are going on about. It felt exactly like a Gen 3 Glock with an overwatch trigger and some grip tape, and felt comfortably inferior to the Gen 5/PDP/M&P.
RXM mogs tbqh imho
if the RXM were any good you'd see it with podium finishes in USPSA, but, curiously enough, you don't
Yeah dude RXM goes hard and I can't even lie
>muh USPSA finishesAll that matters is real world application in a combat scenario.
>>65283559Yeah which the RXM has zero of. Willing to bet more people have died to the Glock than any other handgun in history.
>>65283604nah, two-bit commie dictatorships have been summarily executing political prisoners with makarovs forever
>>65283616TRUTH NUKE
CHAD has arrived
Pretty beefy recoil spring for a micro
The appeal of the RXM is the price. If the prices are equal, I'll take the Glock everytime. Glock has been making Gen 3 Glock 19s every year for almost 30 years. Ruger has been making Gen 3 Glock 19s for about one.
>>65283495trvth
>>65283527the RXM is good for what it is and its just a budget glock that lets people switch between compact and full size grips easily if they dont know what they wantits a perfect entry level 9mm and is a good choice for the person who just wants a basic pistol and dont plan on shooting a lot or want to research
>>65283187The 3x5" analogue for a cardiovascular target makes it a combat drill.>“failure to stop” drill because he’s a wokeNo, I would call it "failure to neutralise".>>65283246>cf basketweave everywhere lately?Your guess is good as mine, it offers no tactical advantage and will not be visible when concealed.>>65283408Without a doubt!>>65283409Good write up, keeping it in my notes. Been contemplating alternatives to Glock since the latest generations aren't GTG.>>65283648Make sure to apply Loctite.
>>65283616Mak is probably second to the Tokarev and shitty clones.
>>65283648Do all of them have that or just the micros?
>>65283803>Make sure to apply Loctite.Uhhh why would loctite go on a spring>>65283648 >Do all of them have that or just the micros?I've never taken down a larger vp9 so idk
>>65283897No, Loctite on the threaded cap.
>>65281459>Follow your own advice. You have a lot of room to improve.
>>65282950The story of the guy at the gun show that when asked by a security guard to check if his gun was empty, he didn't knew what a paddle switch was lives rent free in my head.
>>65283268>>65283276>TRSthis tiny little thingy? how hard can it be? it's just a tiny little spring
My 9mm stocks were dangerously low. I just ordered another 1000 rounds, brothers.
>>65283897The larger ones have a standard guide rod recoil spring, those small ones have to be beefy because they rate them for nato loadst.vp9a1f owner
i caved recently and just got a glock & a dot for it instead of being contrarian and constantly buying different gunsi have to say its pretty nice, i shoot it pretty good and i like the scs red dot a lot
Dumb question. If I bought a Glock COA does it come with the dot already on it or do I still need to "install" myself?
>>65284042it comes pre installed.
>>65284037Welcome to the right side
I have Stoger fatigue
>>65284037>i caved recently and just got a glock & a dotCongratulations on checking the>Needbox. You may now resume buying interesting and fun guns.
>>65284163I don't know anyone with one of their guns
>>65284163SNAPbin will do that to a fella
>>65284197>SNAPbinWhat now? It sounds ethnic.
>>65284219Yeah, simps glock, upside down on a car he can't afford, credit card debt, and section 8 housingOh and he thinks he's a woman lmfao
I just downloaded dryfire reloaded
>>65284227Thanks. I'm glad I have no idea what that is.
They call him snapbin because while shooting a uspsa course (poorly) he rushed and tripped over one of the 55gallon barrels (colloquially referred to as a bin) and he snapped his cock (he mixed up his viagra and ADHD med bottles)
Don't forget about his uh...combat targets?
The awful and untrue things you post will never hurt the way Burt labeling me as "cancer" once did.The pistol optic vs fixed sights argument continues! What a coincidence that Paul W also referenced Eli Dicken in his video.Admittedly and in my own experience, I have trouble maintaining target focus in poor lighting and with eye protection because my combat sights blanket the silhouette when level for a three dot sight picture. Will be experimenting with a slightly to considerably elevated front post at various distances next range trip.
>>65284163He is clearly a good shooter and knows his shit. But I can't get more than a couple minutes through a video, dude has the driest, shittiest voice i've seen. It's a good thing most of his videos are under 10 minutes.
>>65284333Paul Walker died years ago bro, move on
>>65284356I fucked up, kek. It's PewView
>Day 869 of "Muh irons"
>>65284402>irons are just as good as dots, trust me bro>also, I’m at a massive disadvantage on all of the /hg/ challenges because the other shooters are using dots and I’m notreally gets the noggin joggin
I never tried to persuade anyone against a pistol optic.
I can hit what I'm shooting at with iron sights. I can also hit what I'm shooting at with a dot, it's just easier and more instinctive, especially at extended range.If I was going OWB open carry all day, a closed-emitter dot would be an absolute no-brainer, but for CC it's a gray area. >inb4 open emitters are smallerI do not fuck with open emitters
>>65284483Stop helping them think harder
>I actually prefer being at a disadvantage in the literal only situation it matters
>>65284638>but for CC it's a gray areaI've brought that up before and this was /hg/'s response>An optic impacts nothing if you have a carry optic ready holster.
>>65284638I think realistically self defense is gonna happen at a range where you wouldn't need an optic and most people would probably just be instinctive shooting based on muscle memory from practice. I think if you can conceal a gun with an optic you might as well but if the optic means you're printing probably not worth it>>65284733Me personally even with an optic ready holster if it has wedges to tuck the grip into my body, then the corner of the optic is more visible through clothing. It's ruf stuff
>>65284759>corner of the optic is more visible through clothingThere's a "solution" to that too >>65269161
>>65284503I have back in like 2021 when I was first getting into handguns and had almost no expirence with dots. Now days I think they have their place, they certainly make my groups better, but to each their own and if someone decides that red dots have too many down sides for them to teust for carry I think they shouldn't carry with them. If they think they're awesome and train with them all the time I think it's a bit silly to train with optics and carry irons.
>Day 870 of "Muh irons"
>>65284767Yeah but what if they shoot me and loot me first
>>65284771>teust for carryTrust*I personally carry irons 95% of the time and only carry a red dot when I go hiking with my Arex. While I can shoot amazing groups with my Arex with irons, those same groups are just far more regular and repeatable with a dot. There is a reason Lazerbeam anon uses a dot.>>65284775It's handgun discussion in the handgun general. I'm glad to see it.
Actually I guess most black people don't even aim, let alone know what an optic is
>all these posters saying "I don't get it, why buy an RXM when you could just get a Glock">admitting they'll gladly hand over their hard-earned money to companies thay fold under libfag pressureHonestly embarrassing, you should eat your Glonk to restore honor.
>>65284771Indeed, pistol optics haven't been solved like red dot sights for AR-15's were.>>65284780How would they shoot anyone without first having looted a pistol?>>65284783What do you think of having the front post raised to somewhat mimic a red dot sight picture?>Lazerbeam anonHe's a real Leo the Great, that one!
Poorfags argue for irons and that's an immutable fact of life, you will always out yourself as lower social rung when you wheel out excuse #34 for why you don't own optics in the year 2026China has made the barrier for entry mcdonalds tier
>>65281702Even worse. I refuse to be lectured by any flavor of shitskin.
>just replace your slide, sights and holster for a Chinesium reddot, broIt's pretty funny when that muscle atrophied queer tries to mock anyone for not being born into opportunity and advantage like himself.>>65284797>companies thay fold under libfag pressureYou mean like Ruger and the Mini-14 with 10 round magazines and no muzzle thread? >buh da wuz b4 Bill Ruger diedRuger still has the bolt carriers and hammers cucked to this day so no function with auto sears or "Super Safeties"
>>65284801>What do you think of having the front post raised to somewhat mimic a red dot sight picture?Neva been dun befo
>>65283443>Smith and Wesson 2.0It's almost as expensive as the S&W yes and about the same price as the PDP, which is insane
>>65284867Kek but I hope I don't need a suppressor height front sight to make it work without too much POI shift.
>Yeah I am a poorfag so what Muh Irons
Does somebody else want to spend $20k on these so I don't have to
>>65284930Yeah let me look under my couch real quick.
>>65284930I bought an infinity 2011 today, I can’t help
U mirin the rail protector?>>65284930Not really
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