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P220 Edition

Guide: https://files.catbox.moe/9g5sv2.pdf
Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/gs6mLNik

Target(s) of the month for July. Shoot some redcoats. If you pass the first one, try the second.
https://files.catbox.moe/clnjel.pdf
https://files.catbox.moe/kloq65.pdf

Other printable targets and drills:
https://www.tier1concealed.com/pages/three-sevens-drill

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>>65284982
POST a revolver.
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>>65285003
But hk doesn't make one
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>>65284982
What size dot do I want? It will be my first and only for a while.
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>>65285003
You own a Korth? Holy shit, I kneel
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>>65285012
2-3 MOA
some people like 6 MOA, but they're wrong and stupid
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>>65285053
Cool thanks, 2 is what I was leaning towards.
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Rather enjoy shooting the GP100.
Kind of want to send it to Gemini.
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>>65285012
2 MOA
>>65285053
This is correct. I have to carry a 6.5 MOA dot at work and I hate it.
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If you're broke and can't afford an optics cut slide or optic that's okay, please just don't be a faggot about it and claim you're doing something special for self defense by being a boomer.
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>>65285003
Hammer time.
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>>65285003
Excellent.
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>>65285356
>Buh uh buh muh chinesium sucks and muh irons I prefer them I really do uh they're good better even muh muh
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>>65285432
Buh muh Eli Dicken bested the Greenwood Mall shooter without a red dot so fixed sights for EDC should be fine.
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Possibly a dumb question but I'm new at the whole holster thing. How replaceable/standardized are holster clips? I got this one with my Beretta bucks and it could be okay, but this shit fuck clip prints like crazy. It sticks out like a half inch further than it needs to. Could I just replace it with some pull the dot loops? Or what are the chances something like. https://www.roundedgear.com/products/1-5-monoblock-gear-metal-iwb-holster-clip
Has the same screw spacing and would fit in the same holes? Is there a specific place people like to buy holster bits?
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>>65284982
>TiN P220
Hell yeah!
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>>65285706
Looks like you could use either that monoblock or a mod 4 with that holster.
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>>65285658
Eli Dickens trained with his grandpa to a considerable degree and wasn't just jerking himself off online about combat accuracy.
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>>65285706
Like semi-standardized,
There are lots of different clips, but usually if it looks like it'll fit, then it will
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>>65285834
I read if it doesn't fit you can spit on it to help it slide in
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>>65285834
>>65285843
This works for me even when it doesn't look like it'll fit.
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>>65285362
>king cobra
TWU
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>>65285003
Nice revolvers anon. How do you like that Korth? I would love to own one someday.
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>>65285706
>new at the whole holster thing
The very same.
>screw spacing
I was under the impression that .875" was the FOMI standard considering Kydex holster similarity across various manufacturers and monoblock clips have oval slots to give you a greater margin with the fasteners.

>>65285763
I had a feeling you'd be around for this one, P220 anon!

>>65285785
>moved the goal posts
His lawyer said that the grandfather taught Eli how to shoot, nothing about a training regiment unless you think dynamic drills and shooting stages were part of grandpa's lessons, kek.
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>>65285932
Reminder that Eli Dickens was brought up to move the goalpost away from you being a poor bum who can't afford an optic. Who cares nigga this is all just (You) trying to say anything but you're broke.
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>>65285834
That was kinda why I asked, it looks like it would fit, but usually with screws and matching holes "looks like it'll fit" ain't good enough. That DCC monoblock the other anon mentioned is only $6 so I might as well try it before I spend $80 on a different holster. This one has potential.
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>>65285012
It's preference don't listen to these clowns. Call your gun shop and see if they'll let you look through a few different sizes. Kind of a rare thing to have open optics anymore but one of my shops does that

Anyway I like ~5 for a middle ground. The little ones blow my ligmatism the f o

This is 8 btw
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What's a good shot timer? I want to start doing meaningful dryfire practice. Ideally want one that I can set to beep, pause long enough for me to rack the slide and and then automatically continue
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>>65285932
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>>65285012
Get one of the multi reticle horosuns, 2 moa dot is the standard otherwise. Personally I won't be going back, really like the ring and dot style ones and being able to change it if you change your mind is goated.
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>>65286120
Unfortunately the industry is allergic to good shot timers
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>>65286120
I fucked around with a bunch of apps and most of them suck, IDPA shot timer is the one that worked for me. But I think it'll change with your hardware. Just download all the free ones and try them.
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>>65286120
Shooter global GO, you can program that with the app easily. Here I have a 1.1 drill, 5 seconds before it starts the next set.

This thing can pick up dry fire, airsoft guns, and also be set up to work indoors at an indoor shooting range without picking up the next stall.
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>>65286038
Above 5 moa is fucking stupid, it’s not preference it’s objectively stupid
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>>65286185
>most of the most preferred competition optics continue to come in 5-8 MOA variants
I guess everyone is stupid
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I've been enjoying the P220 posting as of late.
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220 or 226? I know one is double stack and the other not.
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>>65286216
yes they are. big dots are fucking stupid
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The little rear charging supports on the vp9cc are actually super nice. I thought they were kinda weird but with the weight of the recoil spring it's actually a pretty stiff rack. Let's me get a great grip with just my thumb and index.
The slide lock is pretty stiff though(probably because of the recoil spring too, idk) I find myself using my thumb and index (right at the pip joint) to hit both sides at once. It's pretty low profile so I probably just need to build up a thumb callus for better purchase on the lever but I hope it loosens up a tiny bit with more use as well. It feels like it takes at least twice as much force as my 509c right now
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>>65286268
.45 - 8 rounds
9x19mm - 15 rounds
Both are good. I have a Revenant Arms frame that takes a 229 slide/locking block but it's a 226 length grip.
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>>65286277
can you sling shot reload easily? I find slingshotting very awkward
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Also what's a good reload time from concealment, from slide lock
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>>65286369
Any draw time under 2 seconds is more than enough as a baseline. If your draw is over 2 seconds you either need a better draw position or to work on being faster.
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>>65286368
Man that's rough. Your draw time isn't bad, but the technique itself is extremely sloppy. I won't even discuss your reloads.
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>>65286388
hence why I posted it for experts to critique
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>>65286012
Pivoting is what you mean to accuse me of, not moving the goalposts. Educate yourself.
>this is all just (You) trying to say anything but you're broke
There are multiple anons whose budget doesn't prioritise a pistol optic.

>>65286256
>>65286337
>>65286148
Good shit!
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>>65286185
>it’s not preference it’s objectively stupid
>>65286269
>big dots are fucking stupid
NTA, but why are they objectively stupid?
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>>65286408
Brokie mental gymnastics are exhausting I'm not bothering to articulate why you're stupid this time.
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>>65286268
>>65286337
220 also comes in 10mm, which gives it a bit of an edge.
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This fucker keeps posting his P220s, and I hate him because now I want one. Stop making me add more shit to my gun list.
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>>65286411
as long as the dot is not too small (different manufacturers have different sizes for the same "X" size MOA dot), making it bigger doesn't not actually make it easier to pick up, the brightness/contrast from the target is what it makes it easy to pick up. The bigger the dot is the more NOT the POI you have on your sight, so those Holosun crosshair reticles like 32 MOA are very misleading so when you're shooting at speed all you have is a blur of the dot on the target, a 32 moa reticle will have this huge blur and the vast majority of it is NOT the POI

a large dot like 6-10MOA which I feel that advertised 6 MOA dots are more like 8, try to be that middle ground of huge ass reticle since people "think" it's easier to pick up. I just hate it, it's unnecessarily huge, it makes slowfire at 25 yards harder for no reason, there is no benefit

there is also this issue where you shouldn't be trying to "pick up" the dot as you're supposed to be target focused and your index and technique are supposed to put the dot on the target you are looking at
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Ultimately I still prefer shooting my 1911, but the P220 is cool in its own way. I sometimes wish I had bought the all stainless one when they were selling it as the "P220 Elite" which they discontinued before the "Legion" one. I guess it's cool having the optic cut though, and the grips are really quite nice. Just not inove with the finish.
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>>65286368
It's definitely easier to slingshot than slide release with one finger. I don't like slingshotting though which is why I try to only buy ambi guns. I'm hoping it wears in a little bit. Ultimately its not a big deal because reloads only matter in law enforcement (statistically)
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>>65286452
So you would say it's better to use just a dot over a circle plus dot combo? I've always thought having the circle helped me index faster, especially with a new gun/optic combo, but is that hurting my accuracy at speed in the long run?
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>>65286459
How's the DA pull?
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>>65286487
I'm just assaulting Burt and being an ass, but perhaps, I do not care for at all the RMR HD's circle reticle or the large 507 Comp dots. All I need is a dot 2-5 MOA. My ligmatism makes the dot bigger for free, however my ligmatism does not bloom at all on the Romeo X 6 MOA optic I have but I cannot stand how imprecise I feel with that large dot, especially trying for 1 hole groups.
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Green dots perform better for my 'stigmatism
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>>65286514
I liked green until one of them ayys showed up in my yard and I couldn't tell the dot from the grass or his sickly green body
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I have a real gun belt now
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>>65286516
I'm sorry to hear that my man, praying your eyes recover to normal human level
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>>65286514
I got ligma, green dots are great for that.
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>>65286526
RIP
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>>65286415
Or perhaps your countersignal is a pretense. In any case, post some actual /k/ontent.
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>>65286514
I used a 1 MOA red dot this weekend and it looked really good with my autistigmatism.
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>>65286514
I'm severely colorblind so red dots are green until they are in the upper 3rd brightness levels
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>>65286597
Eotechs also work better with mine
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>>65286521
Still using my boy scout leather belt.
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>>65286580
Everything you say about you not being able to buy targets in bulk for pennies or have more than 250 rounds of 9mm at once is a pretense to you being a brokie.
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>>65286607
Does eotech make a holographic pistol sight?
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>>65286615
No, only FN's new pistol optic is the first holographic pistol dot.
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>>65286617
Oh interesting, I've always heard that holos aren't affected by an astigmatism. Funny how just red dots have that issue, because even my LPVO dot doesn't get starry.
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>>65286617
How many hou-minutes of battery life?
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>>65286610
>250 rounds of 9mm
I'll have 1000 in the next five to seven weeks.
>buy targets in bulk
For my purposes, these work better.
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>>65286615
Nah they've said for years it's impossible and then FN did it recently
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>>65286492
It's the SAO version, hence the thumb safety instead of a decocker. Single action pull is nice - nice light, fairly short take up and a good clean break. Slightly heavy but only compared to the 1911. It's a nicer SA pull than the DA/SA versions have and that's why I got it.
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>>65286452
>those Holosun crosshair reticles like 32 MOA
I don't think anyone here is advocating for that particular reticle so not sure why you are mentioning it. Besides, the Holosun 32 MOA circle dot is part of the MRS and you can change it at any time so you are kinda swinging at a straw man here. IMO, people who ask about reticle size are more referring to what Trijicon they should get.
>a large dot like 6-10MOA which I feel that advertised 6 MOA dots are more like 8
Yes, these vs a 2 MOA dot.
>it makes slowfire at 25 yards harder for no reason,
2 MOA at 25 yards subtends to 0.5" diameter. 8 MOA at 25 yards subtends to 2". The black center of a 25 yard B8 is 5.5". What's the issue? Even at 8 MOA there should be no problem with centering the dot inside the bullseye. IMO centering the larger dot is actually easier just like centering a 4MOA Aimpoint dot on 100 yard target is easier than with a 2 MOA dot.

I don't own any 6, or 8 MOA dots, but there are good shooters that have great success with them. There are plenty that use a 2 MOA but how many of them turn the dot way up to make it 'bloom?' You are kinda making a mountain out of a preference mole hill.
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>>65286790
People who think differently from me aren’t even human
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>>65286459
>still prefer shooting my 1911, but the P220 is cool in its own way.
peak 220 right here.
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I remember hearing once that a threaded barrel is preferable over a normal one regardless of if you put a suppressor or comp on it due to the extra length. Does that tiny bit of extra barrel really do anything?
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>>65286862
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>>65286882
>Does that tiny bit of extra barrel really do anything?
Yeah, it will increase muzzle velocity, but not by any appreciable amount
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>>65286882
http://ballisticsbytheinch.com/9luger.html
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>>65286882
>Does that tiny bit of extra barrel really do anything?
It makes the gun longer. You decide if this is a hindrance or not.
It adds a tiny bit of muzzle velocity, and a tiny bit of extra weight on the end of the barrel to act as counterweight. Both of these are probably not a noticeable difference.
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>>65286882
Yes it will increase muzzle velocity by an appreciable amount
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>>65286801
>People who think differently from me aren’t even human
Very enlightened take. I have a similar opinion, but about "people" that watch PewView videos.
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>>65286368
Slingshotting is generally recommended due to it not being as fine of a motor skill as using the slide release. Which only really holds up when you're under pressure in a self defense situation, where you're not likely reloading anyways. This could be some fudd shit, and for competition shooting you're probably better off doing what most other shooters do.

>>65286388
Retard lmao

>>65286882
Not really but threaded barrels are great if you're not going to carry it because you can use a suppressor or comp.
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>>65286882
>Threaded barrel
Evil feature
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>>65286452
>objectively stupid
>I just hate it
>doesn't even own a dot so he draws on google images
This fucking general man.
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>>65286989
Yep
>Poorfags argue for irons and that's an immutable fact of life, you will always out yourself as lower social rung when you wheel out excuse #34 for why you don't own optics in the year 2026
China has made the barrier for entry mcdonalds tier
Will remain a fact forevermore
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>>65286882
>Does that tiny bit of extra barrel really do anything?
no
>>65286989
>>65287008
i'm convinced that 95% of gun owners are battling with cops for "lowest amount of time spent training per year relative to youtube videos watched"
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>>65287021
SNAPbin can only afford a range trip biannually
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>>65286929
>"people" that watch PewView videos
i don't know why i despise that twink retard so much
i am totally unable to verbalize why my blood pressure rises whenever one of his shorts crosses my screen but all i can describe it as is "2011slop"
it's like the opposite of that blonde canadian richfag with gay face and the "bullied effeminate middle schooler" haircut. I've grown to like him as youtube slop goes
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>>65286120
blue protimer
ones on your phone are absolutely for gay retards, and the PACT timer sucks because of its max par time limit
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>I just hate it
Yeah obviously

>>65286514
They don't for me, but I can get away with a lower brightness setting on red and that does help me

>>65286619
LPVOs have a diopter adjustment on the ocular which compresses the target plane and reticle plane into one and focuses them either with its internal set parallax or external parallax knob, it's basically permanent glasses attached to the optic or some junk
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>>65287078
Low brightness is a big help for the 'tism
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>>65286487
>I've always thought having the circle helped me index faster
if you think it does, it does
>but is that hurting my accuracy at speed in the long run
if you're not shooting enough to generate data for or against that theory, none of the retards here have the answer
shooting is like golf: it's an extremely expensive sport and there's a lot of vested interest in selling you new and exciting shit. There are also a fuckton of tryhard nobodies who think they know the gospel whose opinions are quickly invalidated by dudes like john daly who can smoke 99% of golfers with a whiffle ball, a bent piece of rebar, and a BAC of 0.71%
buy two of the same gun and stick two different optics on each one and run yourself through timed drills and trials to see which performs better in your hands.
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Stop responding to it.
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New Colt optics. Colt branded optics, no idea what they are but I can’t immediately recognize the buttons so I think they’re new designs.

They have an acro and what I think is a T2 footprint

>>65286989
I do have them. I have used all the optics I talked about.
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>>65287021
>95% of gun owners are battling with cops for "lowest amount of time spent training
The average gun owner will never do 1 meaningful minute of training in their entire life, especially with a handgun.
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>>65286368
>>65286473
>>65286968
The only real use for slingshotting is you lose composure and can’t shift your grip without dropping your gun. If you have already lost that level of fine motor function then I really don’t see the rest of your training helping out much, so why bother training to slingshot?
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>>65287158
it's entirely context dependent
you'd be surprised at how many IQ points you lose on the clock after running 100 yards in full kit in 98 degree heat
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My Friend is buying a CZ P-10F. Do I call him a hipster fag?
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>>65287054
>i don't know why i despise that twink retard so much
>totally unable to verbalize
Same. He has an uncanny dysgenic loser phenotype and comes across as mildly smug. A very punch-able face. His shooting content is pointless garbage slop. Then there is his audience of moronic Pavlovian trained seals that glaze everything he does.
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>>65287158
I really don't slingshot unless I have to. When I carried p365 I had to. When I had a USP the release was big enough I could hit it with my left index finger no problem, but I didn't like shooting 45 so I sold it. Now I only buy full ambi guns
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>>65287169
no, the metal CZ's are for hipsters
polymer cz's are for lobotomites, footfags, and white people who have their baseball caps dry-cleaned
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>>65287158
I’m thinking about swapping to sling shotting since
1. Sometimes my 1911 slide release is very very tight, depends on the gun
2. I accidentally sliced open the tip of my thumb so pushing the slide release hurts
3. 1911 “gurus” say it reduces wear on your slide stop notch on your slide (I don’t believe this)
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>>65287101
The new Colt ACRO is said to be assembled in the U.S. and 428 MSRP
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>>65287177
What's wrong with them?
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>>65287186
nothing, there's just enough plastic fantastic wonder nines that you can make fun of the owners of any of them based on the other owners of said pistol
which polymer blaster you own is now functionally equivalent to those shitty facebook personality tests from like 2010
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>>65287101
I mean they don't look terrible.

>>65287179
Sure beats the HTX, just not sure about their warranty or durability.
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>>65287189
I see. Thanks for spoon feeding me.
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>>65287177
>>65287189
Basically owning a pistol is that faggoty ass shit?
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>>65287177
Shut up moron.

>>65287186
Nothing. You are replying to a noguns.
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I want the cylinder release, sights, and grip geometry of the GP100 on the 686 please.
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>>65287179
>The MRS-1 is Colt Optics’ micro red dot sight – a 1x optic built around a crisp 3 MOA dot and engineered to do one job flawlessly: put an aiming point on target the instant you need it. It mounts on the industry-standard Acro footprint and weighs just 2 ounces, so it rides as easily on a pistol as it does on a carbine or a PCC.

>Power is something you’ll stop thinking about. A single CR2032 drives the dot for up to 75,000 hours on the middle setting, and built-in motion activation wakes the sight the moment you pick up the firearm and stands it down when you set it aside. Twelve brightness settings – eight for daylight, four for night vision – keep the dot dialed in from bright sun to no-light work behind NODs.

oh shit this thing is promising, I was dreading buying another ACRO or Steiner MPS. Doesn't seem too tall either.
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>>65287178
I don't really think it matters that much
I've used both enough at matches that I have not noticed any particular wear on the gun from either
On certain guns with particularly weak recoil springs and particularly stiff magazines fully loaded, it's possible for the gun to be sluggish going into battery if you just release the slide lock rather than pulling that extra 1/4 inch of slide travel to slingshot it, but that's a fringe case.
Thumbing the slide lock has the benefit of freeing your support hand to continue to make shots in a mandatory retention reload and is generally quicker.
>>65287203
>walther polymers
hypebeast hipsters and zoomers
>walther p99
voted most likely to have a black woman duct taped and gagged in their basement
>USP owners
rage addicts that will beat you to death in traffic for speaking ill of the USP
>VP9 owners
perpetual victim complex from being called poor by owners of other, cheaper polymer gun owners
>P320
still sending fanmail begging DJ shipley to beat up the people bullying them; cop wannabes and non-CIB'd military personnel
>P365
small people with tiny hands. usually have the same kind of mental illness that causes people to buy a hyundai veloster
>glonk owners
assorted bag of boomers, idiots who spent an additional $600 on their gun to make it choke on anything but 124gr NATO, and women buying the 43x
>CZ polymers
stomp-clap-hey 2010's hipsters who still want to be different, heard CZ was different, but didn't realize peole were talking about the 75, P-01, and RAMI. left out of their own crowd because the P09 and P10 aren't cool.
>canik owners
watched uspsa footage but never shot a match and can't get their gun to run more than 2 mags without malfunctioning
>509 owners
mentally unwell, probably night security for a bar.
>>65287213
>mad czedditor
lol
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>>65286038
I forgot this means I have to wear my glasses to shoot.
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>>65287231
Berettachads, we stay winning
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>>65287231
good video, man i need to practice shooting from a lean or a crotch
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>he's not buying the white label ACRO (generic C+H Duty)
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>>65287259
The CH Duty is a swampfox kraken clone, I think the lowest those mailbox clones went was like 100 bucks
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>>65287231
>small people with tiny hands. usually have the same kind of mental illness that causes people to buy a hyundai veloster
I have how accurate this is (size m glove, ioniq)
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>>65287231
>women buying the 43x
This girl I know at the gym loves her 43x. heh
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>>65287278
>size m glove
I'd kill myself
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>>65286521
I only have a placeholder for right now. I loved my old belt but I lost enough weight that it won't fit anymore and they quit making it. It's nice having a good belt.
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I'm probably retarded but does this thing NEED an optic plate adapter to plop down an optic on it or is it only if you want specific optic brands? I'm seeing conflicting reports in reviews and even CZ's own promotional webpage.
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>>65286619
Etched reticles generally don't pose a problem with astigmatism. Probably for the reasons anon said, I don't know the why I just know that they work great for me and I can't even see a red dot at all without my glasses.
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>>65287303
You're probably going to need a plate for everything that isn't a Holosun SCS.
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>>65287274
>swampfox kraken
The mount is different. It needs a 2 slot rail mount, unlike a proper ACRO rail.
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>>65287345
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Got my first suppressor today.
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>>65287101
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>>65287177
They can clean hats?
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>>65287368
Go back
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>>65287378
my credit card was once skimmed (probably from a gas pump or something) and I knew immediately that it was fraud because the charge was $217.86 from "FRESH KICKZ SNEAKER HAT DRY CLN SVCS - BALTIMORE MD"
so yes there are absolutely places to get your retarded lidz hats cleaned while maintining the integrity of that stupid huge holographic sticker on the brim
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>>65287389
lmao, when my credit card number was stolen the person's first activity was using it at a bar in fucking siberia
ethnics really are something else
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>>65287278
I'm size s glove and used to drive a different hot hatch.
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>>65287407
When it happened to me it was used at some halal food mart, typical mudslime shitskin behavior
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>>65287278
>Ioniq
Does your wife have a castration fetish?
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>>65287407
Mine tried to spend 600 at lowes. My guess is he wanted tools to sell for cash.
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>>65287387
You go back you little bitch. It's a shit design.
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>>65287177
>white people who have their baseball caps dry-cleaned
I'm stealing this, thank you anon.
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>>65287231
Keep going anon these are good.
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>>65285356
>the affordable ones can get fucked up real easily
>the ones that are good at not dying are expensive, and need to be re-zeroed every fucking time you change the battery
>don't own land, don't know anyone who does, because fuck my ass
>the nearest range is 30 minutes by car
>don't have a car
>Good Enuff™ with irons
>have astigmatism to top it all off
Call it cope all you want, but the one time I had to draw, it was night and I didn't have time to reach for my flashlight. If I had to do it differently, I'd 100% ask for a WML- not a dot. It's dark half the time, and there are now several models of light you can bang around without worrying about the warranty.
>and yes, I still want a green dot after I just said all that shit
Shoot me.
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>>65287021
>cops train more than 95% of gun owners
No shit, retard. Your average gun owner probably goes to the range once a year.
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>>65287467
>Beretta 92/M9A1/LTT
made up of either road-raging oef/oif psychos or gigachad racism enjoyers wearing sexcore everyday, no inbetween.
>Beretta M9A3
smelly weirdos that had some kind of crisis when the MHS competition specs were released. complicit in beretta's identity crisis circa 2016
>Beretta M9A4/nu-beretta
never got the message that we're all buying Langdons, doesn't understand why everyone has a silent aversion to their guns when they post pics
>SIG 226/229
will shoot the air marshal cert series obsessively. will never qualify. will still tell you that their gun that does nothing well is absolutely the gospel. most likely to own spare parts for their pistol, unfortunately they're all MIM
>CZ Shadow 2
insufferable USPSA shooters who will not shut the fuck up about their SHADOW 2 and how their SHADOW 2 changed their life and made it so they could never shoot anything but their SHADOW 2. unfun cringelords of the highest degree. On average, pretty good shooters though.
>2011
will flag you when trying to air rack. half of these guns have been photographed more than they've been fired. users will usually show up to a match, display a dogshit hit factor, claim they're "trying something new" then harrass other shooters because they lost track of one of their $115 mags. Will say "look how flat this shoots" while missing a steel IPSC plate at 15 yards.
>MK23
dangerously insane. highly likely to avoid any kind of political office because multiple people have shit on them. will bore you at a bar with stories about having done coke with so-and-so in a nightclub bathroom in san diego or something similar. Would probably let their spouse die before losing their gun to the evidence locker.
>Px4
accidentally became cool. Non-LTT Px4 owners are usually the type of person that creates a shoe contraption to take upskirt photos of girls or makes their own fleshlight out of hardware store materials. Not to be trusted.
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>>65287231
>>65287528

I feel attacked

t. Own several of these listed
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>>65287528
Where does my beretta 92 gts place?
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>>65287177
>>65287231
I own both a steel frame CZ and a PDP and I am a hipster zoomer. This is dead on :(
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>>65287543
weirdo who always gets left out of parties and outings
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>>65287543
Nu-beretta.
Vertec owners wipe back-to-front and drink from water bottles by circling the entire mouth of the bottle with their lips
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>>65287566
>>65287603
you guys are mean
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Im really trying to like the cc9. Do any of you like it?
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>>65287649
No. VP9CC or bust
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>>65286120
Pact Club III
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>>65287632
Just be glad you don’t own a PT92 or a PSA Dagger
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>>65284982
Pissed on my horse tits
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>>65287700
I don't understand how you mean by that TBQH.
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>>65287655
what the fuck hahahaa what is that pic dude
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Who is dumbslav?
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I carry a 1911 and a Glock 42 as my EDC, but I honestly might replace the Glock 42 with a Glock 17.
Higher magazine capacity and more powerful boolet.
It's certainly larger but that won't be a problem because I wear loose clothes and a belt.
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>>65287735
Just imagine the smell
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>>65287743
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>>65287177
>polymer cz's are for lobotomites, footfags, and white people who have their baseball caps dry-cleaned
kek. you forgot broke retards who can't afford glocks. literally me.
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>>65287752
If you want to capacity maxx, remember to use Mec-Gar 18-rounders (MGG171800A)

>>65287753
I don't think I will, anon.
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>>65287799

Based MecGar user
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>>65287804
o7
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>>65287752
go for the max anon
i carry a full size beretta 92 with a WML every day
kydex/tegris insert belt is a lifechanger
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>>65287818
As much as I want to make fun of the weeb grips. I kind of want them now
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Got my new pistol the other day. I told myself that I was going to get one as soon as I knew they were available.
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>>65286337
I prefer 17+1 rounds of .45 ACP.
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>>65287942
wrong pic
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>>65287903
Looks nice anon - let us know how it shoots.
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>>65287231
>idiots who spent an additional $600 on their gun to make it choke on anything but 124gr NATO
147gr you mean
>t. One of those idiots
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>>65287960
Winchester service grade is hotter than 9mm NATO
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>>65287903
>DO NOT EAT
heh. yeah whatever, retard
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>>65287655
>>65287758
>Crash Bandicoot build
>le mog
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i know a guy irl who became an obsessive obnoxious beretta owner because he got mindraped by you retards shitposting. there was no indication either of us ever read 4chan but now i know he does because of his strange /k/ esque behavior translated to a real breathing retarded mouth.
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>>65287998
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>>65285356
If you know anything about shit, you’d know irons are better for defensive point shooting at defensive point shooting ranges. But you don’t since you’re either a nogunz euro or some faggot NPC who “competes” and also carries a 9mm because “das wut da DEI FBI and female cops carry”
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>>65286012
>you’re broke!1!1
You’re brown.
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Berettafags, could we samurai-edge the new 94X somehow ? How would you do it ? Building a clone correct 92 SE is far too complicated from a legal and technical standpoint in my country.
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>>65288103
>>65288107
Brokie crashout lmao
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>YOU'RE brown
>no, YOU'RE brown
This board is just /pol/ for gravy seals. Losers.
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>>65287903
Damn nice purchase. I want one too

>>65288009
There aren’t that many people here that love Beretta. I certainly don’t, because instead of making works of art they just coast on the 92.
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>>65288160
So you can buy a 94X, but not a 92 Brigadier?
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>>65288305
It's a pretty boring insult. It was bad when everyone was a tranny but this is somehow worse. I don't feel like the people saying it really believe it they're just going through the motions.
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>>65287512
Just like cops.
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>>65288372
SHUT UP COPS ARE BADASS AND TRAIN ALL THE TIME WE ARE BETTER THAN 95% OF THE TOP 95% SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UPPPPPP
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>>65288160
So it's a 92 but more, somehow? That takes new mags and is probably twice the price?
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>Day 871 of Muh Irons
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>>65284982
I just got my first firearm.
A .22lr 6 shot revolver.
I am going to take a ccw class and get a ccw license. Anyone have any tips or advice for a new gun owner? I already have a box with a lock, hearing protection, and eye protection.
>>65285003
This is it
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>>65288471
Anything but put in another doordash shift for these guys.
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https://aimsurplus.com/products/leo-trade-in-glock-17-gen3-simunition-training-pistol-blue

So can I just take the blue frame off and stick it on a real Glock or how does this work?
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>>65288472
>SA 22lr revolver
>Not NAA sized
I hope you enjoy that gun because its not a very good carry choice.
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>>65288305
Sir, it's Meal Team Six members
Get it right
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>>65288472
Did someone tell you to buy this or did you arrive at this decision all on your own?
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>>65288305
Just like with "tranny" anyone calling you that can be immediately ignored, they're a bot, a child, or at the mental level of either.
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>>65288472
>advice
Buy a few bulk packs and shoot through them. Focus on trigger pull. Practice with both hands, not just your dominant one. Get gud at 3-5 yards before worrying about longer distances, especially with that.
>advice done
Why did you choose that, of all possible 22s, for your first?
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>>65288472
Maybe it's just the angle of the picture, but does this have sights? Like at all? Because I don't see any. This is not a good choice for a first gun, but it's also really funny, I wish you luck anon. Post your CCL qualification target when you do it. (assuming your state does that)
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>>65288472
Retarded choice, hi-point would genuinely have been better for a cc
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>>65288472
I'm sure there are worse guns you could pick but off the top of my head I'm drawing a blank. Did you lose a bet or some shit?
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Are 2011s DA/SA? Or is it just a double stack magazine?
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>>65288690
They are almost identical to a 1911 but double stack magazine.
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>>65288694
Shit that's way less cool than I thought.
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>>65288539
>does this have sights
most likely just gutter sights
>>65288690
the history of the 2011 is basically just people first fucking around with the 1911 to rechamber it in 9mm, then chopping the frame to fit a double-stack magazine, then it started picking up steam in the mainstream. almost all 2011s in practice are identical to a 1911 because their heritage is just a chopped up 1911 frame and action with a wider magwell and grip grafted on.
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Optics look weird on revolvers.
You should be hip firing like Bob Munden anyway.
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>>65288710
True unless it's some autistic bullshit like a Chiappa.
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>>65288716
Yep that's an erection
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>>65288698
you're wrong. DA/SA is unnecessary with the 1911's features.
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>>65288732
Yea but if they're all SA I might as well go with a correct original 1911. I thought the 2011 was a full modernization not just muh big magazine.
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>>65288719
I know that I'm in the minority here but the Rhino is the only revolver that interests me. It's just weird and dumb and cool and that's all I want a revolver to be.

I wish they'd put a top rail on the 5 inch barrel instead of just the 6, I think the 5 looks better.
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>>65288792
why would you go for less bullets
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>>65288805
TWO WORLD WARS
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>>65288825
They make .45 caliber 2011s. 11/12 instead of 7/8 rounds, more if you fuck around with different tubes (14 in the size of the 11 rounder)

I’ve built a .45 caliber 2011 by converting a 1911. The mp4 I posted is my Wilson combat converted to 2011 for carry, it’s using the shorter 10 round mags for flush fit but that’s 2 more rounds, a 25% increase for 25% more world war.
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Also 2011s can be in every caliber that a 1911 can be. That was the flaw of the 2011 since the same mag body needed to fit 9mm and 10mm/.45, if they went 9mm from the get go or designed 9mm specific frames/grip modules all the issues with the magazines could have been resolved. The new 2nd/3rd gen 2011 mags are very good in 9mm, usually. Occasionally you run into 9mm magazines where the feedlips are just a few thou oversized and it spits rounds out easily + the mag spring is too strong. You need to bend the feedlips back in

Imagine a different world where they just used beretta 92 mag bodies, I think the 2011 being adopted by the U.S. military would have been a possibility if they did if it shared magazines with the 92
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Post
>your favorite handgun overall
>your favorite EDC

Mine:
>Glock 19
>Glock 19
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>>65288107
That would explain why he doesn't post shooting range /k/ontent and despises polymer grip framed, striker fired pistols because Glocks are the leading melanin reducer.

>>65287996
>115 GRAIN FMJ
>hotter than 9mm NATO
How did you arrive to this conclusion?
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Calling pastebin broke rattles him more than anything lmao
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started paperwork on the colt limited government 1911

DO NOT BUY A COLT IF YOU CARE ABOUT QUALITY

razor sharp edges, serration cut too deep and did not bevel the edge so there is a razor blade on the slide where the serrations are. I'll have to ruin the finish to take the edge off. it was also rusting in the box

It has the worst trigger I have ever felt on a 1911, miles of creep

>>65288963
>How did you arrive to this conclusion?
grain weight has nothing to do with pressure.

9mm Winchester Service Grade is loaded to the same specs as the US Militaries new round, M1152 which is a 115 gr flat point going 1300 FPS for 440 ft lbs, 10% more ft lbs than 9mm NATO. It's hot ammo and my training load. It feels spicier than my actual defensive ammo. It's also relatively cheap.

WSG I assume is M1152 that does not go through the QC the military batches do, they have the same primer and case sealant, headstamp, velocity, projectile, but is cheaper than the actual M1152 Winchester sells.

fucking broke ass pastebin faggot
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>>65288972
You know he is because he replies to old posts so he was clearly still thinking about it.
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>>65288972
Mindbreaks his section 8 ass
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If anything, it's your obsession that rattles me.

>>65288994
>115 gr flat point going 1300
The bullet is lighter than 124gr so of course the muzzle velocity will be higher.
>It feels spicier than my actual defensive ammo
You should have posted that instead.
>buys a crummy CZolt
>brags about having more money than sense
Tsk tsk tsk.
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>brokie never shot service grade
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>You guys are obsessed!
Lolcow behavior, hes ranting about his detractors.
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>>65289036
>WARNING: This ammunition is loaded to 10% - 15% higher pressures than standard 9mm and should only be used in firearms specifically approved for +P operation. Use in firearms not rated for increased pressure can cause accelerated wear or potentially lead to damage or injury.
Per SG ammo. 1300 is a conservative number, I believe the number I remember being quoted is 1350. It's absolutely +P and as much pressure if not more as +P 9mm carry rounds.
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>>65289125
also it's literally designed to be more lethal than 9mm NATO
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snapbin couldn't even google this

>The M1152 is a proprietary, ultra-hot 115-grain Winchester "Active Duty" training load built for the U.S. Army's Modular Handgun System. In contrast, 9mm NATO is a standardized military specification requiring a 112 to 124-grain Full Metal Jacket (FMJ) bullet moving at a specific velocity.The key differences between the two military rounds break down as follows:Pressure & Velocity: The M1152 is loaded to approximately 39,700 PSI, putting it in the +P to +P+ category. It routinely exceeds 1,300 feet per second. 9mm NATO (often designated as M882) operates around 36,500 PSI, generally pushing 112–124 grains at 1,150 to 1,250 feet per second.
>39,700 vs 36,500 PSI
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>>65289144
He cant afford a data plan
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>>65288792
nigga thinks DA/SA is "modern" lmao
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>>65287528
>Shadow 2
Butter. Silk. Smooth. Perfect.
>also own a Cheetah 84BB and 80X
So fun to shoot. Please add them to list.
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>>65288160
What about a 96X?
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>>65289220
just drop a 96 slide onto a 92X or 94X
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>>65289144
Ok well the SAAMI pressures for 9mm is 38500 for +P so it is +P+ ammo.
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>>65289224
But I want it to shoot .40/357sig
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>>65288716
Since the barrel sits low anyway, it would be way cooler if they deleted or at least reworked that vent rib with an integrated optic mount low enough that the dot would cowitness with the irons. Now THAT would be BASED.
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>>65288930
Ahhhh do I buy a DWX or build a 2011.
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>>65288994
I think it's pretty dumb to buy a Colt brand Colt in 2026. Has been for >10years desu. Springfields are unironically nicer.
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>>65289264
Eww gross. If .40 and .357 Sig disappeared from the face of the earth tomorrow literally nothing of value would be lost
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>>65289271
DWX does not have that much aftermarket and a 2011 has a huge aftermarket, there have been some prototype grip modules flying around that convert a 2011 to take CZ75 mags or P320 mags. I saw pictures of them, but cannot find them at all anymore.

2011 has a huge aftermarket. I would recommend not building a 2011 because you'll get obsessed with it and not want to do anything other than build more guns until you've created the perfect handgun.
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>>65289302
We'd lose sovl
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>>65289312
I want a steel 2011 grip module that takes 17rd P365 mags and is as thin as it can possibly be made.
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>>65288472
I like your revolver anon its cool
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>2011 frame
>P365 Xmacro 17rd mag grip module
>external extractor slide with an optics cut
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>>65289330
While not impossible but the thickness of the mounting interface here and the standard trigger bow, it’ll have to be either a new frame or get wide at the bolt holes

The frame is like 1.1 inches wide
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>>65288322
>So you can buy a 94X, but not a 92 Brigadier?
Well, kinda.
>>65288405
>and is probably twice the price?
94X is available and 25% cheaper than unobtainium 92 Brigadier (even worse with straight dust cover) in my country.
>>65288405
>So it's a 92 but more, somehow? That takes new mags
Yeah, and it sounds quite nice to me. Plus it has front serrations out the box (I can't find a single gunshop willing to add some in a 92 Brigadier ; there is no market for that). Plus bad thing is that Vertec grip, I believe noone is making SE grips for that shit.
>>65289220
>96x
40S&W is barely a thing here. Couldn't be bothered really.
>>65289224
>just drop a 96 slide onto a 92X or 94X
Can't do it without jumping through numerous hoops. Also really expensive. Same problem with building a clone correct 92 Brigadier SE really.
>so why a 94X ?
Lack of a better option. It would be a totally non-clone correct modernized Samurai Edge kinda gun I guess. Hence my very first question.
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>>65284982
In the market for a pocket revolver. Thoughts on the LCR?
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>>65289380
>I believe noone is making SE grips for that shit.
the 94X has removable grip panels on the removable grips

just design a panel that fits on the grip that has the SE medallion slot

Also the 94X is not a Vertec grip. It's the new Vectex Pro (tm) grip. New contour on the backstrap.

I'm very excited for the 94X Performance
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>>65289383
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>>65289363
Does that exist?
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>>65289266
Just dremel it off.
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>>65289380
wait. Can you not get LTT Elites in Europe? It has the right forward serrations, you can easily by SE grips for them, and it's the correct two tone
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>>65289383
It's the standard, concealable, shoots reliably, cheap. Grade against it when considering a pocket revolver
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>>65289271
If you have 2011s then the DWX is unique and cool but yeah like the other anon said good luck with parts.

>>65289392
>Frame safety
DOA
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>>65289125
>loaded to 10% - 15% higher pressures than standard 9mm
So is 9mm NATO, that's why I asked.

>>65289132
>designed to be more lethal
That's more to due with bullet design than energy

>>65289144
>>65289257
>American Rifleman report
https://youtu.be/NJ2dpC-Bz40?t=13
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>>65289573
>due
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As a first time shooter should I wait until after the 4th to go to the range? I know they're probably really crowded around this time.
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>broke boy coping again
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>>65289590
Maybe he's from Baltimore and types with an accent.
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>>65289600
He's an Arizona dune coon
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>>65289594
You could go and have 18 boomers hassle you, would be fun
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Went to the range to shoot a little skeet and then handgun. Nice guy let me shoot his Caesar guerini artco specialist overunder for a couple rounds. Thing was fucking butter smooth and for 12k it damn well better be lol
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>>65289594
I'm taking my noguns cuckstate family shooting 2 weeks after the 4th because I don't want them exposed to retards that only shoot once a year.
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>>65289627
>boomers
I wonder if Gen X and Millennials will be as reviled as the baby boomers when they reach that point.
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>>65289633
Millennial gunfags are pretty annoying, male jewelry hit them like crack hit the hood in the 80's
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>>65289392
just design a panel that fits on the grip that has the SE medallion slot
I'm afraid I lack the skill to do that.
>>65289416
>Can you not get LTT Elites in Europe?
Beretta 92G LTT Elite, yeah. With the right serrations ok, but it lacks the only thing I can't dodge : the distinctive wave shaped slide. About the classic Elite I and II, they are nowhere to be found, never seen one for sell, or listed, or else.
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>>65289644
>I'm afraid I lack the skill to do that.
IIRC Collector Design Werks meddalions are 20mm, and they you just need a 20mm forstner bit and it took me like 5 minutes to make >>65287823
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>>65289633
>reviled as the baby boomers
No boomers have collectively fucked the nation and the economy back to back over their own personal greed
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>>65289600
I don't like people from Maryland. They plaster their state flag over everything and make sure you know where they are from. But it's a nigger filled shithole so why are they so proud of that?
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>>65289633
Everyone already hates millenials.
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>>65289600
>types with an accent
The way I write does follow a neo-transatlantic spelling convention but "due" was an error admittedly.
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>>65289668
True, but we've been despised by our Boomer parents for decades for following all their advice and not ending up with a house, wife and pension at 25 so we're used to it
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>>65289633
>>65289662
yeah the issue with boomers is that their brains are full of lead and they despise anyone but them owning or enjoying firearms
the worst that millennials or gen-x'ers will do is disagree on what is best but they're not trying to revoke peoples' rights
>>65289663
you have to admit that Maryland has a fucking great flag
the issue is that everyone from Maryland looks and acts like something went wrong with their DNA
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>>65289699
>the issue is that everyone from Maryland looks and acts like something went wrong with their DNA
The East Coast is like that. Living in the most judaized part of America does that to people.
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>>65289716
Stanning the West Coast in a handgun general is certainly an odd decision
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>>65289723
most of the general are west coasters
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>>65289723
I live in New England. I still prefer it to the hippy commie hellscape that is the west coast, Jews have better standards than White shitlibs.
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>>65289723
idk about the coast but I like the West.
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>>65289663
This but Colorado
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>>65288160
theres no Brigadier slide that allows that type of safety
Everything else can probably be done
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>>65289816
Brother it has a brig slide
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>>65289820
that doesn't look like a brigadier slide, it looks like it just has the locking block channel contour of a brigadier
a brigadier slide is thicker and uglier
>>65289727
appalachia is vastly superior to anything in the west short of valley of fire or pike's peak.
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>>65289853
I would like to see everything from Nevada to Georgia and the rest of the South join together, then the North will have a civil conflict where the good ones sort things out with our support. They we join together again and skullfuck california and new york.
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>>65289882
realistically I think converting everyone who lives below 300ft of elevation into some kind of biofuel would probably solve most of the country's problems
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>>65289899
If you can’t find a way to make them fuel don’t let that stop you.
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>>65289909
>get in the voting booth, urbanite
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behold, my latest impulse purchase. a Ruger MK1 from 1977.

it's a neat gun but now a couple hours later I don't know how I feel about it. I'm also pretty sure I overpaid.
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>>65289853
>that doesn't look like a brigadier slide, it looks like it just has the locking block channel contour of a brigadier
nigga it's a brigadier slide.

any 92 slide can be modified for a frame safety model with a dremel.
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>>65289853
>Appalachia is just rural New England but worse IMO
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>Got bit by the revolver bug.
>Rent acquisition is a 1978 manufactured S&W 28-2.
>Take it to the range for the first time this past weekend.
>Struggle to hit shit with it.
>True for all of my revolvers.

What are some good resources on learning how to perform well with a revolver? I seem to do fine with the first pull of DA/SA semi-auto triggers, but the DAO of revolvers is proving to be a real challenge for me.
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>>65289918
Didn't mean to greentext
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>>65289913
Congrats Anon. How much did you pay?

>>65289921
My grip and stance for revolvers are completely difference than autoloaders

https://youtu.be/n9u662t-CrM
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>>65289926
>How much did you pay?
$390
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>>65289913
What makes you unsure about it?
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>>65289947
the price mostly. I'm pretty sure I overpaid for it, and beyond that, there's a little voice in the back of my head telling me I should save my money. could just be nothing though, I get that feeling a lot when I buy things.
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>order recoil spring, hammer spring and sear spring for my mac 9
>recoil spring is the wrong diameter and don't feel much of a difference in trigger weight with the other two springs installed
I'm gonna sell this thing and just get a 2k11 like I should've in the first place
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>>65289954
I’ve overpaid so many times. Don’t even worry about it, this stuff happens. As long as you like the gun then don’t feel bad.
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>>65289959
yeah, I'll probably feel better by tomorrow. that's usually how it goes.
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>>65289963
You should rattlecan it.
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>>65289941
Seems a bit costly considering the price of the 4 but the 4 doesnt have the historical appeal.
Like >>65289959 said if you got it for the appeal of the gun you got a good piece. If you got it for a .22 plinker I can understand why you feel on the fence.
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>>65289820
oh im fucking blind and retarded
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>>65289966
I got it for a little bit of both. I like old guns, so it appealed to me more than the newer ones, but there was also a .22 shaped hole in my collection.
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>>65289926
Thanks for the tips, Mr. Miculek. I'll hit the range and give it another try.
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rate my EDC.
Will change out 42 for 17 soon.
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>>65289984
>Scripture grip
KEK
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>>65289999
*Tips Fedora*
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>>65289984
This is the gayest thing I've ever seen.
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>>65290019
Tip that fedora in court if you ever fire that thing in self defense, prosecutor's dream
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>>65290027
you haven't used a mirror yet today?
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>>65288477
>>65288477
Anyone?
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>>65290103
what are you asking, if anything the blue frame is the actual firearm part and is modified to not actually accept real glock slides but still is legally a firearm. the top end is a simulation slide and barrel and it will not shoot real bullets.

without modification it does nothing but shoot simunitions
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>>65290103
Idk stop being weird
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>>65289984
>rate my EDC
extended/ported barrel
lame grip panels
wrong size mags
velcro mag carrier
pen light instead of an actual usable handheld
I give it a trash/10.
>>65288477
>>65290103
>Anyone?
Burt question. Wait for him to check back in.
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No real point, but pretty fun to shoot.
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>>65290150
nah

a long slide is like a long barrel revolver, it means you mean business.
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>>65289984
Don't listen to the faggots on here. I wouldn't sell your 42, just save up for the 17 and add that
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>>65290019
being performatively christian IS the new fedora tipping
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>>65284982
This video is actually a great way to show nogunz how smokeless powder works. Most people think guns work via 'explosions'
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>>65290283
why are the grips coming loose like that?
is the recoil that strong?
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>>65290299
Just vibration. Normally your meat grippers would be pressing around all that material.
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>>65290299
NTA but they look like E2 grips which are just held on by the tension of the plastic itself. Not holding them it makes sense for them to "jump" a little for lack of a better word.
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>>65289302
You're thinking of 9mm Luger, a hilariously outdated antique training cartridge.
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>>65290324
9x19 has seen more brains than all the neurosurgeons worldwide
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Should I get some wood grips for my gp100, even if its just for aesthetics?
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>>65290361
Buy what you want. Nobody's opinion matters but your own.
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>>65290162
Based, I don't carry anything shorter than 5" in the fall and winter.
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>>65290361
Aesthetics is why everyone else gets them. I happen to like the way my wood grips feel but I got them for looks.
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>>65289330
>>65289363
>>65289401
Alpha Foxtrot makes a compact double stack 1911 that takes Shield 15 rd mags with extendos, but its aluminium. Staccato CS also uses a smaller magazine, I think there is a steel frame version
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>>65290141
Oh my God you're retarded.
>Extended ported barrel.
Yes it reduces recoil with no cost to velocity.
>Lame grip panels.
completely subjective.
>Wrong size mags.
what do you want me to run exclusively 7 rounders? I'll carry whatever size magazines I want.
>Velcro mag carrier.
So? it retains perfectly fine.
>pen light instead of an actual usable handheld.
How is that not usable, I point it at something and it gets lit up. It does what it's designed to.
>>65290198
Never intended to sell the 42, I just meant put the 42 in the safe and start carrying the Glock 17.
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>>65290430
b8
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>>65290428
The AF S15 I’ve heard is dog water and not reliable
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>>65290437
You're baiting me and I fell for it.
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>>65290283
Nigger, we literally see the fucking Explosion on screen, all that gunpowder compacted into a shell casing causes it to explode when the primer explodes, the expanding gasses from said explosion pushes the bullet out the barrel.
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>>65284982
need to see one out of a freedom arms or korth given their microscopic cylinder gaps
>>65289984
Get a bunch of beretta 950 or colt 1908 vest pockets, and stuff them into ur sleeves instead.
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>>65290511
>all that gunpowder compacted into a shell casing
Shake a cartridge next to your empty skull, faggot. What you hear is smokeless powder, entirely uncompacted, shaking around. It burns and does not explode.
Only black powder explodes, and for this reason it is compacted. Kill yourself, dumb monkey nigger.
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>>65290594
Nta but you're coming off as very "erm well ackshually it's not an explosion it's a series of events that leads to the combustion of" maybe reddit would be more your speed?
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>>65286038
Shut up dumbass.
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>>65290606
And you're coming off as a retarded nigger, so maybe you should go back
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>>65290625
Did that anon really trigger you that badly?
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>>65290627
This is the part where I say 'post guns' and then you don't because this is /k/ and none of you own guns.
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>>65284982
Nice Sigposting

>>65285766
>>65285774
>>65285778
>>65286256

45 BDE

>>65286446
I’m a PSeries enjoyer but the HK posting makes me want to get into a second expensive German handgun brand.

>>65286459
The Elites are great, would def want one.

>>65286862
I def want to add a reverse two tone.

>>65287528
Wise PSeries owners have replacement springs and small parts stashed long before they moved to India. I bought a huge lot on GB from some gunsmith who retired.

>>65287512
I worked local and fed LE, 94% of the people worked never shot outside of quals; which can be between 2-4x a year (usually 2 except for USSS). I shot all the time on my own and was told I couldn’t count the range time towards my hours (we worked a Flex Time type schedule) because it wasn’t “agency training.” One range cycle we were doing senpai fire with the MP5’s and I was the only one who wanted to shoot more than one mag. Nuts.
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>>65290636
Would you like that with or without serials included?
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>>65290645
What does USSS do, mother fuckers have been doing some embarrassing shit in the last few years
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>>65290511
>we literally see the fucking Explosion on screen
Speak for yourself. I can only watch webm on my phone if I go to the archive and I’m not doing all that.
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>>65290655
They are one of the only fed agencies I know of, where everyone does 4 quals a year. My former agency did 2 a year, but then instituted another 2 firearms days in between.
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>>65290655
I forgot to add that while I left the .gov in 2016, it seems like Biden and DEI really gutted a lot of agencies and USSS has been full of fuck ups and TDS agents and all around stupidity. Back when I was with another agency’s security detail, there was the famous story of the USSS agents who tried to not pay for hookers in Bogota and the local cops came and threatened to arrest them.
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As someone who is very new to guns in general and only has a single stock handgun, how necessary are these modifications, sights and stuff that I see here and online?
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>>65290716
Now I’ll admit I haven’t gotten on the pistol optics hype train, but the best thing I think you can do is get decent night sights with a high viz front sight. Many brands now come with decent factory sights or you can have a gunsmith install them (also an easy DIY).
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>>65290716
You can be just as effective with a stock gun but some upgrades can help you if you struggle with stock parts
lighter trigger if you dont like the heavy trigger
better grips if the stock are too lsippery
red dot if you just hate irons

you'll never have to shoot someone past 10 yards because at that distance you should be looking for an escape or cover in the event of a shooting or self defense situation
but yes im sure a red dot can help you land the shots at that distance, but its not really necessary
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>>65290716
not really necessary, the gun stock already goes bang and has something to aim with already.

red dots are a game changer but they require you to actually practice and train with it, someone who has a red dot and knows how to use it will be much faster and accurate than someone with irons. if you're stuck with irons, then high vis irons will work.

dry firing is practicing with a snap cap or otherwise unloaded gun, where you practice aligning the sights and the trigger pull. It's free, super effective, and is the most important thing you can do to become a better shooter. A red dot makes dry firing easier since it gives constant feedback on what your gun is doing while you pull the trigger, you'll see exactly how the point of impact shifts as you pull the trigger (ideally it doesn't shift).

>>65290734
>you'll never have to shoot someone past 10 yards because at that distance you should be looking for an escape or cover in the event of a shooting or self defense situation
go fuck yourself
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>>65290716
What gun?
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>>65290714
>>65290711
Are feds good shots in general, or are they just like any other cop? How tough are the quals, and how tight are the time standards in them?
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>>65290731
50k credit card debt hands
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>>65290741
that's not ebtbin
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>>65290745
I'm aware
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>>65286411
>>65286989
>>65287008
>>65286790
https://youtu.be/X5X5fmletr8
I want a very small dot.
Um, you see a lot of like the 6 MOA, 8 MOA, I think there might be even some 10 MOAs or even like the 40 MOA circles on some dots. [music]
And to me, that's just too cluttery. I want a very very precise dot when it comes to it. So like the the 2 and 1/2, the 3 and a 4 or like a just a straight
two. Like those are the the small types of dots that I want. I want the dot to be the precising aim point. I don't want to have well the upper portion of the dot here, the lower portion of the dot here. I want literally just the minuscule amount of a dot that I can see and reference on the target in general because I don't want my eyes to be referencing on the dot. I want my eyes to be referencing on the target or whatever I'm shooting kind of downrange basically. So small dot 100% more preferred than a bigger dot or a big
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>>65290765
I have a 2moa reflex on my edc and a 1moa center dot holo x flip-magnifier for gpr
Idk why you're looping me into Big Moa enjoyers
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>>65290610
>going out of one's way to clown
Name a sitch where a 6 MOA dot is too big let's dig into it

>>65290765
>I don't want to have well the upper portion of the dot here, the lower portion of the dot here.
Buddy whut? It's not a BDC. At 25 yards a 6 MOA dot is 1.5" across, what are you shooting that is so tiny and how is a larger dot preventing you from doing so? You shooting 3" pasters hung in open air at 50 yards regularly or something?
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>burt is so overweight his red dots need to be overweight as well
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>>65290803
Don't ever not reply to me again.
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>>65289913
Have you tried using that without ear protection?

>>65289957
I thought you meant an Ingram 9x19, kek.

>>65289984
Fellow G17 carrier.

>>65290037
A prosecutor would try to use your favourite colour against you if allowed, it doesn't mean shit because no American has ever been convicted over weapon cosmetics.

>>65290283
The video also demonstrates how the bullet and case function as piston and cylinder respectively with the force of expanding gas driving the slide rearward.

>>65290337
Indeed!

>>65290645
Cheers, Sig anon.

>>65290714
ATF deserves DEI.
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>>65290807
sorry
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Burt had mentioned there were two. Beretta PX4 anon was likely the first which leaves >>65290803 as the second, figures.
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>>65290836
obsessed pussy ass bitch, what are you going to do? post tranny webms (literally animated by a dude pretending to be a woman), then a bunch of one sentence AI chatbot tier replies inserting yourself into like a dozen conversations because
1. no one wants to talk to you or cares what you think
2. you have no expertise with handguns
3. you are irrelevant, you can only be hated instead so you try to intentionally be annoying as possible while not breaking the rules, you spend alot of time gathering clips that are "handgun related" to make indian engagement farming tier posts

imagine all this time you spent seething, simmering in your faggotry, and fucking DRY FIRED like some people you indian repost tell people to do? I remember this post
>>64050962
where you made one of the stupidest statements about pistol shooting ever in /hg/
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>>65290803
>shaking this much to make an 8 inch circle at 9 yards
who is this and why was it recorded
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>>65290853
>webm
It features the P230 (pic rel) and I ran out of P220 content.
>you indian repost tell people to do
???
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>>65290863
Pastebin stole it from YouTuber and said it was him shooting.

Why someone shoots like that is because they only practice slow fire where all you need is to know how to pull the trigger basically. The shooting isn’t terrible, it has a well defined group, but I bet someone better can drill a one hole or almost one hole group at that distance at a similar cadence with a red dot

>>65290872
You
>verb: Indian repost ; posting clips stolen from other people, while you have no idea about the content or the lessons being taught
People like Ben Stoeger who basically dry fired his way to winning world championships
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>>65290878
>Pastebin stole it from YouTuber and said it was him shooting.
lmao
>People like Ben Stoeger who basically dry fired his way to winning world championships
dry fire is like deadlifting
i've seen a lot of shit physiques and numbers of people who deadlift, but i've never seen someone with a great physique or lifts that doesn't deadlift
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>>65290813
>Have you tried using that without ear protection?
it's not suppressed, so no
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>>65290820
Think I caught that strain of explosive diarrhea
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>>65290878
>said it was him shooting
Never happened.

>>65290891
>no
I guess .22 LR would be louder from a pistol than from the 16" barreled faux AR-15 that I heard without ear protection which sounded like suppressed fire. In any case, nice plinker :)
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>>65290901
>I guess .22 LR would be louder from a pistol than from the 16"
I've done it before and it's bearable, but it's not "safe" and I wouldn't do it regularly.
>In any case, nice plinker :)
yeah, I guess it is. I'll have to see how it likes the cheapest thunderbolt money can buy.
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>>65290917
>have to see how it likes the cheapest thunderbolt
Keep us posted~
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>>65290714
>there was the famous story of the USSS agents who tried to not pay for hookers in Bogota and the local cops came and threatened to arrest them.
LMAO. At least one agent lost their job over that. Imagine losing your job and having to go home to explain to your wife why it was so important for you to get your dick wet in some spicy Colombian prostitute pussy that you "forgot" to pay for.
That was just one of the many Obama era USSS very visible fuck-ups that made it clear, at least to me, that that agency is not what it used to be.
- Dude running into the White House for several minutes before being noticed/caught.
- Random dude winding up alone in an elevator ride with King Barry.
>>65290765
>I want a very small dot.
Then go for whatever makes your heart happy. Most on the market are 2MOA so it shouldn't be an issue.
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>>65290923
will do
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>>65290931
USSS has been fucking up ever since JFK's detail showed up hungover that fateful day.
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>>65290942

>>65290942

>>65290942

>>65290942

>>65290942

>>65290942
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>>65290162
>>65290414
Hell yeah. Long slides 4 Life
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>>65290337
.32ACP would like a word with you. I think that little cartridge has seen more brains than any other bullet ever produced.
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>>65291072
He probably meant human brains.
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>>65288472
That's... A choice. I'm looking for a .22 revolver but not that one.
As for your question, you should also pick up a cleaning kit. I was recommended Hoppe's No. 9 and it's been good for me.
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>>65289984
Christ is in our midst. I too carry a Govt 1911 in .45, and am an unworthy servant of God through the Holy Orthodox Church. God bless you and your household, brother.



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