Miss Liberty Edition > On July 6, 1776, the Pennsylvania Evening Post became the first newspaper to publish the full text of the United States Declaration of Independence. >This came just two days after the Continental Congress adopted the final wording of the Declaration on July 4 (following the vote for independence on July 2). Printer Benjamin Towne included it in that day’s issue of the paper in Philadelphia. Target(s) of the month for July. Shoot some redcoats. If you pass the first one, try the second.https://files.catbox.moe/clnjel.pdfhttps://files.catbox.moe/kloq65.pdfGuide: https://files.catbox.moe/9g5sv2.pdfPastebin: https://pastebin.com/gs6mLNikPrevious: >>65301961
Buying a cz75 as a first gun. I was gonna go with the sp01 over the cz75 b because of the rails, as I wanted a beam or light to go with it, but it looks so much less elegant. Thoughts? Do you really even need a beam or light for a first gun?
>>65306959>Buying a cz75 as a first gun
What suppressor should i get for this new frankenglock build?
>>65306959Lights are very useful. Can’t shoot what you can’t see
>>65306959I'm a CZ enjoyer and I wouldn't recommend buying one as a first gun. Are you American and if so, which state?
>>65307003I'm an American from Florida. I was just gonna go with the Ruger RXM or Beretta PX4 Storm if the CZ75 didn't work out but I'm curious as to why it's not a good idea for a first gun?
>>65306956>1777Not even close to the right number>>65307012The CZ-75B is fine but if this is your first gun, you want something you can either conceal or be used as home defense and the CZ isn't ideal. While it's very similar to the 92fs/m9, the latter has the benefit of a bigger aftermarket as well as the ability to find them relatively cheap used. Personally, a Glock 19/RXM would probably be ideal for a first carry piece and something like a Glock 17/M9A4 would be ideal for home defenseWhat's your budget?
>>65307012What are you looking to do with it specifically? Edc? Home defense? Range trainer? More information will help focus the pros and cons.
>>65307012Buy whatever you think is cool. Having a gun you like and want to own is super important, more important than features and practicality. But the 75 series does have some downsides >firing pin retaining pin breaking >trigger return spring breaking >tuning up the trigger can be expensive (CGW have talmudic pricing) It’s a perfectly fine first gun. Personally I’d try to steer you towards something with a native optics mount since optics on handguns is the future and training with a dot is much more effective
>>65307069Never had any of those problemst. Have north of 40k rounds on a P01 I bought used in 2016
>>65307076Noted. I’ve seen some people never have issues and then others claiming to have never dry fired without a snap cap and their firing pin retaining pin being eaten away. Maybe it’s a QC issue where some slide/internal combinations wear the firing pin retaining pin more than others. They could just get a solid one to fix it.
>>65307128There are always lemons, no matter the gun model or manufacturer.
>>65307128Not really QC I mean, tolerances. Sometimes some guns are more problematic than others, I’ve seen a lot of variances between my beretta 92s. Actually with one of my PX4s I can’t take it down fully since the take down hole isn’t drilled in the right spot in the decocker.
>>65307128that's what happened to my SP01.>go to load gun>glance down as i insert mag>firing pin was stuck forward>it had worn away and jammed through the roll pin and got stuck>took a brass rod to push it back through the hole >easy fixi wonder if i had dropped the slide it would have acted like an open bolt and just ran wild.
>>65306981Shoot at sounds, dummy.
https://youtu.be/5JonyDmd1HYWith the FBI now publishing requirements for handgun ammo needing to test performance through the Staccato HD in addition to Glocks. The Staccato HD also passing federal acceptance tests (which? MHS reliability tests? LE agency tests?). According to the CEO of Staccato and some of the images I’ve seen, Staccato HDs are being tested by the U.S. Military Special Forces groups with specific variants being made just for them, like the 5 inch Staccato HD with a Comp.
>>65307136>Actually with one of my PX4s I can’t take it down fully since the take down hole isn’t drilled in the right spot in the decocker.In which direction? Because on mine I had to slightly turn the safety to get the pin to line up with the opening in the slide. I believe that's how it's supposed to be, does yours go the other way?
>>65307189Based RVTVRN to 1911
>>65307189>Randomly decide I want a 2011>See this nowWhat timing, lol.
>>65307189Actually, the entire time the Staccato HD was made at the request of a certain military unit in South Carolina at Fort Bragg. > The HD line originated from discussions and a visit by Staccato to “a military unit in North Carolina”. This is highlighted in Staccato’s official “Concept to Creation” video. A former US Army Special Mission Unit member (Charlie Ross) was involved in R&D.
>>65307189>>65307215FBI requirements https://sam.gov/opp/f51f7428698a409ab151119e382458ae/view?utm_source=chatgpt.comlol they’re using CH precision plates. Fucking feds
>>65306981>can’t shoot what you can’t seedon’t see that ANYWHERE in the rule book i think you just made it up.
>>65307230I didn't realize the list was this short. No M&P?
Has anyone ever done or seen empirical recoil testing of handguns? I was looking for info on compensators or barrel porting test and all they were doing was testing velocity, which is interesting but not actually what matters in my mind. Couldn't you set up a rig like mythbusters and measure how far it flips?
>>65307246You could. A test that will mimic the average handgun grip perfectly so muzzle flip can be quantified. Honestly shooting is like 80-90% the shooter and 20-10% the gun. As long as the shooter doesn’t have to focus more on fighting the handgun than he has to fight to get the sights on target it doesn’t really matter.There’s more to recoil than muzzle flip, there’s slide velocity, impulse to the hand, how the slide feels as it’s locking back into battery. Hammer fired guns tend to feel nicer since the mechanism of the hammer being cocked slows down the slide velocity. Like changing the interface between the slide and hammer (firing pin stop, flat versus beveled) changes the perceived recoil for a 1911/2011 allegedly. A flat one makes the slide harder to rack by giving the hammer less leverage against the slide = more resistance against the slide while cyclings
>>65306959>>65306981Only if you live where there is no ambient light. Otherwise it's not necessary.
>>65307270I'm aware that it's splitting hairs, I'm just looking for the info rather than to improve my shooting (I mean I'm doing that too but I'm not dumb enough to think barrel porting will fix my shit.) The same system that allows you to measure flip could have a high speed to measure slide velocity. Force imparted into the hand would be a lot harder.
>>65307278Is night not a thing in india?
>>65307230>gen 5 G17 MOS with forward controls plate and ACROfedfags copying me, many such cases! Sad!
>>65306956Well, it's an improvement over the bug girl mags we usually see, so I'll take it.
If you have a glock what's the rationale behind not getting a ramjet?
>>65307230Absolute euro-austrian supremacy.
>>65307246How far up the gun flips isn't the only thing that goes into recoil feel, though. You also have to consider how hard the slide bottoms out, how hard it slams back into battery, how fast the cycle takes, etc. You'd need an accelerometer, not just a rig with a camera.
>>65307349Makes gun longer, makes gun louder, makes gun ineligible for classes that aren't Open.
>>65307069I've never had any of those problems
>Holosun micro/macro>Colt whatever>PA HTXWe're definitely not starved for pistol red dots lately. Thinking the colt might go well on my 92X.
Colt Optic’s MRS-1 is available for backorderhttps://www.eurooptic.com/colt-optics-mrs-1-closed-emitter-3-moa-dot-arco-footprint-black-miniature-red-doACRO mount. Shake awake. Claims 75k hours on a 2032 battery. Top mounted buttons so they don’t get pushed while IWB.US designed and assembled (parts sourced from U.S. friendly countries, probably South Korea)
>>65302696thanks for the tips anons, picked up a ruger LCP. Sooooo kawaii! No pics till 4473 goes thru
>>65307390put the blade runner grips on it
>>65306959>Buying a cz75 as a first gun.>go with the sp01 over the cz75 b because of the railsAs a former SP-01 owner I wouldn't recommend it as a first gun. Any maybe not even at all. I got it as a project gun that I was going to change everything on, mill, red dot and have a heavy, duty type double stack 9mm. Ultimately decided not to move forward with it. Doing work on CZs is kind of a pain in the ass compared to the Glocks that I was used to. Sights are a nerve racking pain in the ass to change, and there are fewer options. While mine worked fine, everything is kind of half assed on the gun: poor internal finish, shitty paint external finish, shit tier lettering on slide/frame. If you want optics, you will have to send it out for milling and refinishing which is pricey. You're getting into a legacy DA system like the HK USP where you spend more to get a particular platform/features. In this case, all steel frame, interchangeable grip panels, and customizable trigger Which all cost extra. >Do you really even need a beam or light for a first gun?No, you don't NEED one at all, but you should always have a handheld light for home defense or carry purposes. >>65307012>American from Florida.Bruh, you have a world of choices, so look at all your options. >>65307069>something with a native optics mountthis is good advice.
>>65307128>>65307076>>65307069why is this the only company that this happens to, are the springs really strong or is the firing pin notch too sharp
Post you're are daily carry, RIGHT FUCKING MEOW
>>65307189>2011s that don't officially existWhoa, and here I am with my boring old pistols that officially exist. I really need to drop $4K on a Staccato that doesn't exist. >According to the CEO of StaccatoWhy are you listening to that guy who's reason for being is to shill Staccato as hard as he can? That guy struck me as a massive BS artist. >The Staccato HD also passing federal acceptance tests (which? MHS reliability tests? LE agency tests?)If that were the case Staccato would have that at the front of their web page in bold flashing script instead of the horse shit marketing that they do have on there (see pic) LMAO. And holy shit does Staccato's website suck ass.
>>65307445Uh, OK. I are daily carry.
>>65307362I see no downsides
>>65307446The HD is advertised as passing the FBI BRF (Ballistics Research Facility)’s test for reliability/endurance in harsh environments which I guess is what they’re referring to. >The 2011 HD line goes through rigorous BRF (FBI Ballistic Research Facility) testing for mechanical endurance, reliability, and resistance to harsh environmental conditions, going far beyond industry standards>4kIt’s much less if you were a Hero (tm)Staccatos are Built for Heroes
>>65307446>4kthe CC variant seems to be going for 2600 which is... a better price than 4k...
>>65307445
>>65307445>MEOW
>>65307333Not to be the ACKCHUALLY guy, but it specifically says that the ACKro requires a B&T plate.
>>65307406That’s the Lil Chootin’ Revolver, i have the Lil Chootin’ Pistol. Looks sweet though
>>65307461>The HD is advertised as passing the FBI BRF (Ballistics Research Facility)They do not include that on the descriptions for their HD models on their own website. Not saying it isn't just that they ought to lead with that, or include it in the description. Not sure where these advertisements are, as I do NOT look at ads, so it kind of tells you about what absolute iToddler nigger cattle their average customers are. >It’s much less if you were a Hero (tm)Definitely not. I am also definitely NOT going to the Staccato Ram Ranch (tm).>>65307466>the CC variant seems to be going for 2600 which is... a better price than 4k...I am not buying anything from a company that pays picrel (a busted ass, never was, B-class, plastic surgery gun bunny failure with bimbo bolt-ons) to shill their crap.
Any of you ever been disarmed during a traffic stop after informing the officer you have a ccl? >inb4 my state does xWether it's duty to inform or not where you carry I don't care just asking if its happened
>>65307445Relax I just got home.
>>65307215>military unit in South Carolina at Fort Braggreally nigga
>nics is down>again
>his carry piece has a WMLNGMI
>>65307559Is a chinkoid TLR-6 copy good enough ? I currently own a 43 with a recover rail and Olight PL mini 2, but finding a kydex holster is not ok. I have a belt clip instead. A real TLR-6 would be 3 to 4 Times US cost and I can't do that.
>>65307576>he doesn't want positive target identificationNGMI>>65307589The TLR-6 is flimsy enough as it is (it's not one solid body).t.TLR-6 user.
>>65307559What mag holder is that
>>65307589Your options are:1. Custom holster2. Buy a TLR6Its up to you, I don't know how the holster game is in your country.
>>65307522It depends on the state and location. Rural cops may just tell you to keep your hands away from it, urban cops may disarm you until they know you're not a felon.
>>65307602https://a.co/d/0bNZpxfMActually pretty comfy and they fit my CZ mags too.
>>65307589The TLR-6 is a chinesium flashlight already no? I don't think Streamlight does any non chink lights. I'd argue a copy of the Streamlight is probably close enough to the exact same thing to the point that they likely come from the same factory. If its an industry that is subsidized by the Chinese government (Drones, Military optics and lights, 3D printers etc) you usually see one urban area that makes all of the products and they often come from the same factory complexes with the logos put on at the end depending on the customer. I would just buy the cheapest option that is not just a total scam price like 5 bucks and call it a day. The Chinese can make 150 dollar red dots now that compare to 300 dollar Chinese red dots from 5 years ago.
>>65307617Oh has it happened to you?
>>65307522Yes - I had my G17 in the glove box with my registration and insurance. I notified them, and they had me step out of the car, took the gun out, unloaded it, and disassembled it. Then they wrote me a $300 ticket for having my highbeams on and gave my gun back in pieces in a zip lock bag.
>>65307522I'm almost 40 years old and the last time I was pulled over Bush was in office
>>65307649Lel what a bunch of cocksuckers
>>65307012The RXM is what the G19.5 should have been. Buy one, take a roll of fine grit sandpaper and smooth out the casting lines on the grip and trigger shoe, and enjoy.
>>65307652I can only assume you're a good driver and lucky My last time being pulled over was lame duck obama
>>65307427It was designed for a solid pin then beancounters substituted a rollpin later. It also lasts long enough that it takes years past any warrarty before you notice its broken.
>>65307649>Then they wrote me a $300 ticket for having my highbeams on and gave my gun back in pieces in a zip lock bag.Tell me where you live so I can never go there. Absolute penis sucker cops.
>>65307246Tandemkross has a video of a 22/45 with and without their muzzle break installed. It cuts muzzle rise in the mount by almost 50%.
>>65307668>22/45>muzzle riseWhat?
>>65307609>2. Buy a TLR6250 to 300 eurobucks, I can't swallow that but I get your point.>1. Custom holsterThe only stuff I can find that fit my build and ship into my cuntry is azula holsters, picrel. If anyone has as some opinion on this brand, i'm glad to hear it. 80 bucks tho.>>65307629>chinkshit under chinkshit noname brand is the exact same than chinkshit under US loicencingThat would be my kinda hope too, yeah. But I don't know really. Not that i'm too picky, I use only olights (bought only during yearly sales) because cost effectiveness.
>>65306959>>65306981>>65307076>>65307133>>65307368>>65307559>>65307609>>65307619Not anon, but is it really necessary to get a light that goes past your barrel for your pistol or is that just a larp?Its supposed to be so that your pistol doesn't "go out of battery" if you push it up against something, but has there actually been real cases of this happening in self-defense scenarios, or is it just a larp and a small light is fine?
>>65307750Like most things with guns, it's 1% holster comparability and 99% what you think looks cool
>>65307664That was in Tucson, Arizona.
>>65307770that checks out. Fuck Arizona and especially fuck Arizona cops.
>>65307750Most lights go past the muzzle even if just a tiny bit.
>>65307750Out-of-battery malfunctions are real in sd, but lights don't prevent it from happening, so there's no point in getting a long light for that reason.
>>65307750its preferable to get a light that sticks out past the muzzle. using it as a standoff is a minor benefit. the real reason you want it is less soot gets on the lens if it sticks out past. worst is flush. rear is ehh fine. then theres holster compatibility
>>65307770>That was in Tucson, Arizona.Checks out. AZ cops seem like the biggest cunts in LE.
>>65306981Just use your intuition. It's just like developing your index on draw. You should be able to just feel where you need to shoot and be able to put rounds in that general vicinity.>>65307035Post a compilation of all the fraudulent threads a la Burt or stfu.
>>65307813>ess soot gets on the lens if it sticks out past. worst is flush. rear is ehh fine.I thought it was the other way around. X300 on a G19 would get carbon on lens bad, whereas a 34 was less so.
>>65306981>He doesn't just mag dump at random sounds coming from dark corners an alleyways.
>>65307863>The humble 1$ microfiber cloth and 3$ lens spray
>>65305184>>65305198QRD on your Tanfoglio 1911 anon please ? I'm thinking about buying one.
Thinking about getting a deagle again...
>>65307813Interesting, I had a light that was behind and it got bad soot, I thought that extending past would be even worse.
>>65307930Allof its bad you always get soot but forwards is the least. Unless back is like 2-3 or more inches away from the muzzle like on a shotguns pump.
>>65307675>he can't eyeball .010"It's a 1/2" to 1/4" but to an autist like me that's a lot.
>>65307516>I am not buying anything from a company that pays picreI just ignore it if they actually make a really good product, can't say that about all of them.
>>65307516I fucking hate gun women
I fucking love women.
>>65308092That's gay as fuck
>>65307278I live in Wyoming where it's pretty easy to find areas without ambient light, and I still don't have a flashlight on anything but my HD gun. I carry a handheld light, I practice strong hand only shooting with it, and I'm satisfied with the results.
I got my first pistol today and feel like the biggest pussy on this goddamn planet because I'm unironically having trouble manipulating it with my pansy ass soft girly hands. Merely pulling back the slide and locking it with my thumb is a struggle and my pistol ends up drenched in sweat afterwards. Is this normal at the start or am I just an absolute faggot? I legit have zero calluses on my hands and the sweat certainly doesn't help things either.
Breddy gud
>>65308186It’s mostly a technique thing. You should pull back on the slide while also pushing forward on the frame to charge it. You’re probably still a faggot though.
>>65308189Amen brother
>>65308186My nigger, lube the gun and then go shoot it. It all gets easier
how many speed holes is too many?
>>65308186You eventually find the grip that works best for you checking the chamber, or locking the chamber back without a mag etc. I thought Glocks were kinda hard to rack at first but now they're super easy and I don't understand why I ever had a problem.
>>65308186somebody post snapbin's vid to make this anon feel better.
>>65308189>L*ft handedDISGUSTING
>>65308243It's not even Lilybin's video, he yoinked it from some youtuber and tried passing it as his own. SNAPlily is brown irl
>>65308250post it anyway. anon doesn't know what bitchhands truly is until he sees that video.
>>65308254I don't have it saved
>P2000>VP9>CC9>VP9CC>P30There are only two genders, USP (female) and Mark23 (male), anything else is mental illness.
>>65308284What form of mental illness is the VP9a1 series?
>>65308284Based. I think of it more as the USP being the star quarterback, and the MK23 his legendary dad who ran the league
>>65308202>You should pull back on the slide while also pushing forward on the frame to charge it.This is something you can do but not something you have to do unless you are weak, eldery, or a woman.A normal man should have the grip strength to hold the gun then just pull the slide back.
>>65307445OK I will
>>65308186Started few months back and had similar issues. I'm by no means a big macho man but I'm probably slightly above average grip strength through being active/lifting occasionally. I think the biggest thing for me wasn't even physical but more psychological. I started telling myself "ok i'm handling a gun not a toy, lock in keep the muscles tight and engaged" (this sounds gay as fuck writing it out but idc judge me) and now It's just automatic and manipulations are like auto pilot with muscle memory. If you could look at me 3 months ago vs now it'd look like a retarded child with nerve damage in their hand comparatively. I can fully rack slides back and forth a hundred times, press check from below, etc. Technique also matters to look into that if you are just intuiting what you think your fingers should be doing. Also seems like some guns come with tight tolerances from the factory and need more break in + cleaning + lube. My Bodyguard 2.0 was legit twice as hard to manipulate as a Glock. Now its a lot closer but still harder. (if I have to quantify it went from 100% effort to manipulate to 80%) So yeah>Muscle Memory>Actively thinking about your hand muscles (mind-muscle connection)>Lock in, dont fuck around>Break in>Lubing>Technique>General comfort that comes with being more used to manipulation
>>65308186>>65308361I should also mention I have a cushy existence so I have pretty baby hands and you just kind of have to accept the skin on your fingers will probably sting after fucking around with your guns a lot. This has improved a bit though.
>>65308367We get it, you're a tranny
>>65308186I started last year, yes, still happens to me with a gun that isn't mine, and it did happen to me with my first gun.70% of being good is knowing the trigger, once you know your gun's trigger, you can shoot palm sized groups at 25 yards easy. Mag dumping does not make good shooters, it's better to shoot 15 good shots than to shoot 200 bad shots
>>65308367Soak your hands in super salty water for half an hour a day, pick up a hammer and deliver square strikes every three seconds against a few rubber sheets for ten minutes/day on each hand(start low and work your way up to a 3lb), hang off of shit, and pick up rocks bigger than your hands or bricks and carry them around 5 minutes or so. Your grip strength will be great within a few months.
If you want to get good at shooting, subscribe to this channel. Seems to be a clips curated by Ben/Joel for mastering pistol shooting. https://www.youtube.com/@BenStoegerClipsThis dry fire drill includes how to properly dry fire multiple shot strings of fire, how to train yourself to not get trigger freeze (DON'T RIDE THE RESET).
>>65308405No I hate them they groomed a good friend of mine>>65308410Like I said grip strength isn't an issue for me just have pretty hands cause I'm not a blue collar slave.
>>65308417>No I hate them they groomed a good friend of mineIt's a social contagion. sorry bud. We got to put you down
>>65308417Pick up a wrench baby soft faggot
>>65308415Ben pls go and stay go
>>65308433Not Ben
>snapbin is pretending to be other anons again episode
>>65308438Gud shootin pardner
>>65308429I'll just pay you to do that : )
>>65308417That isn't fooling anyone bud
>>65308417>No I hate them they groomed a good friend of mineSame. We need to start a #metoo movement for this.>>65308433His videos are genuinely helpful. You'd know if you shot guns.
Burtsman is posting PX4's range videos because they're probably in the same Dicksword server.>>65307349It's only 9x19, there's no sense in compensating or braking the muzzle at all much less with a Ramjeet.>>65307770>TucsonFigures, worst city in the state.
>>65308494Why would we need a discord server when me and Burt are barbecuing lost hikers together
>>65308438What gon?
>65308415Actually Paul Harrell's and Hickok45's videos are all you need. The rest of guntubers are snake oil sellers.
>SNAPbin can't afford the ramjet therefore it's ass
I’m working on building out my duty glockI managed to have a $500 gun with $1500 in accessories on it. On a side note tho: I’d 100% recommend buying the vickers tangodown rear plate if u have an optic on your Glock The extended slide release makes a huge difference I’m currently experimenting on the size backstrap I should use; I have about a 2% improvement (yes, I measured) using a medium backstrap on my G19: obviously I need a few hundred trigger pulls before I can have consistent data, but my plan is to do 15 trigger pulls a day, followed by 2 sets of 5 per backstrap and scrap any fliers from the stats. That should give me a solid warmup, totaling 75 trigger pulls a dayI should have solid data after a few weeks on if back straps genuinely make a difference Obviously I will disappear and never post any follow ups
>>65308536Glocks get pretty decent after the 1000$ mark
>>65306959If it was my only gun I would want a light.
>>65308529Nighthawk Predator 9mm
>>65307128Mine did that. Supposedly the one from cgw doesn't have this problem, at least I think I read that.
>>65308544Goals
>>65308536https://youtu.be/T1oSUttMgvYThis video should be helpful
>>65308536>I managed to have a $500 gun with $1500 in accessories on it.Most financially responsible glocktard
Honest thoughts on the SP2022?
Compensating or braking a 9mm pistol is like compensating or braking a 5.56mm carbine, either you're stupid or an effete.>>65308525Bet.
What's a 1911 "idiot scratch"?
>Day ??? of SNAPbin complaining about things he can't afford
Why do none of you fags get a dji nano or something similar to capture your range trips. You guys shoot your guns, don't you?
>>65308559Something you can avoid with a pen's cap. I keep one in my cleaning kit.
>>65308561>dji nanoFor that sort of expense, I'd rather have Meta glasses
>>65308566Okay, how do you avoid it?
>>65308561I like doxxing myself to neckbeards and glowies
>>65308554Its a budget gun. Its never going to be the best but at the same time if you were assigned to carry it your fine with it.Its 80% of a 226 at a cheaper price but you can tell the 20 % that you are missing. I dunno about current prices so its had to say the saving are worth it. Its still better than modern new sig like the 250 or 320.Its heavy for a supposedly light polymer pistol. I liked mine at 350$ but its not my first or evn top 5 in my choice of handgun. Not horrible and you could do worse. But nowhere near a must pick.
>>65308569>implying you can mount ze zucc glasses on a picatinny rail
>>65307750>is it really necessary to get a light that goes past your barrelI don't think it's an intentional decision for most people.
>>65308538>>65308552I haven’t fucked with the internalsOnly non factory modification I did to the gun is put the tango down backplate on itThis Glocktard is the equivlency of the guy who has an AR and puts all the latest and greatest rail accessories on his stuff >>65308550Thanks anon; I actually just watched the video yesterday and it was really helpful
>>65308559When assembling the slide stop you drag the slide notch lug across the frame and scratch the gun. It’s not a big deal on a super worn gun, but on a pristine gun it’s obvious and shows you didn’t care/know how to prevent it. IE idiot scratch
>>65308580Probably for the best to leave them stock anyway, gucci that glawk glawk to your heart's content
>>65308581It’s much worse when you do it across the slide if you insert the slide stop notch from the other direction.
>>65308581Interesting. Kind of like the way someone scratched my pristine SKS before I was able to buy it. Thanks for the explanation.
>>65308583Always keep them stockIt’s more of a performance on demand thing. We know what works; don’t venture into the unknown without a good reason. Glock is slow and behind the curve, but they have a brand known for reliability and ease of maintenance. Tolerance stacking leads to reliability issues. I want to take an armorer’s course so I can properly modify a Glock to get it more to my speed
>>65308580>This Glocktard is the equivlency of the guy who has an AR and puts all the latest and greatest rail accessories on his stuffYes
>>65308581All 1911 eventually get the idiot's scratch...right?...RIGHT?
>>65308593No
>>65308186>Merely pulling back the slide and locking it with my thumb is a struggle and my pistol ends up drenched in sweat afterwards. Is this normalunironically yes its normalmy hands still get a little sweaty when handling the gun but the more you fuck around with it (unloaded) the more comfortable you'll get handling it and pulling the slide back etc.it's a psychological thing, just remember you can be rough with it, you need to make your motions deliberatedont half ass pulling the slide back, dont half ass pulling the triggerkeep it near you, grab it often and just get a feel for the weight, get accustomed to racking the slide (while empty) and pulling the trigger (with snap caps)the more you see it the easier it'll be to just treat it as any other object but still keep safety in mind
>>65308561we're shy :3
>>65308597>unironically yes its normalif you are a woman its normal. if you are an average strength male or teenager you should not be struggling
i now understand why when i mentioned doublestacked magazines being hard to load everyone called larp
>>65308080>I fucking hate womenFTFY
>>>/wsg/6190370 (You)
>>65308614True brother
>>65308558>Compensating or braking a 9mm pistol is like compensating or braking a 5.56mm carbine, A2 flash hider acts as a comp. >either you're stupid or an effete.I have you clocked as both.
>>65307813>the real reason you want it is less soot gets on the lens if it sticks out past.Who cares? The lens is the easiest part to remove soot from, it's the body where it won't come off. Take a magic eraser sponge to your lens after every range trip, the stuff comes off with minimal effort.
>>65308623>A2 flash hider acts as a comp.it does jack shit to reduce felt recoil. i went from a2 to thread protector cause lawsit felt the same.
>>65308623It's pretty good at hiding flash. They're cheap because they were the standard, not because they were bad. I think people get that confused.
>>65308628a2s are honestly goated. Better than suppressors imo
>>65308617cute tummy
>>65308682We need to see more draws from him
>>65308623The SureFire three prong [SF3P] is the superior flash suppressor on carbine length barrels>have you clockedYou wouldn't last three rounds with me in a boxing match.>>65308575It's easier to self evaluate when one's hands are visible in shooting video.
>Lilybin stealing yet another shooter's video
>>65308714>Donut Operator reposting a video from a month ago with a paid sponsor#wow #woah #italiano
>>65308703>You wouldn't last three rounds with me in a boxing match.Sure thing tough guy.
>>65308703>The SureFire three prong [SF3P] is the superior flash suppressor on carbine length barrelsNice midwit response.
>>65308682>>65308696
The welfare check must have been light this month he hasn't been this mad in a while.
I kinda miss having a USP Next one I get is going to become a cruel mockery of German perfection (a race gun)
>>65308986never forget
>>65309098This is a level of poverty I'd expect from people who have magazines full of mystery mixes of rounds.
>>65307770Fuckers must have nothing in the budget
>>65308544That is a fantastic looking pistol.
>>65308593If you're an idiot
>>65306967Work on an optic or sights first buddy>Faxon barrelHmmm keep that receipt until you get 1k rounds through it
My cartridge segregation system filters halfwits but it's how I'm able to keep track of FMJ, jacketed hollow point and inert cartridges between six magazines during the same range trip. >>65308865The SureFire three prong also has the feature of suppressor mounting but go ahead and keep holding the bag on Gay2 birdcages over muh SOVL or whatever>>65309113>>65308860Square up or shut up, simple as.
>it's another snapbin is wearing random peoples' skin pretending to be them episodeWhat type of mental illness is this?
>>65309332You can mount suppressors to the a2 too. It's unironically the best flash hider and you're trying too hard by shitting on it.
>>65307035My budget is $700 but if I'm really interested in the gun I'm willing to bump it up to $800>>65307043Edc, home defense and training at the range. Highest priority would probably be edc, with training taking 2nd place and home defense taking 3rd place.
>>65309365>training taking 2nd placeNGMI
>>65309365Look at the P01 then, its a compact CZ with an alloy frame and a rail.>15 rounds of 9mm>glock 19 sized>light enough for EDC (alloy frame)>can mount a light for HD/EDC>CZ 75B controls/manual of arms
>>65309340He is literally always doing this
>>65309381training?
>>65309422you jest, but most people think "training" means range time at the minimum. Consistent dryfiring, or as some people would call it "dryfiring," and presentation drills will make you a better shooter than 90% of the population.
>>65309438Indeed, especially from the draw.
>No Im not retarded or poor Im special and unique! Every time lmao
>>65309438I need to be more consistent in my dry firing.
>>65309183At first I thought the black nitride finish was boring but after a while it’s really grown on me.
>>65309469I haven't gotten consistent but even just doing it 2-3 times a week I took a second off draw to first shot. Still p slow though.
>>65309444muscle memory from draw stroke practice translates so well into everything else it's insane. A dot helps with verification.
>>65309476I shoot irons but I use a bore laser for dry fire, functions as a snap cap as a bonus.
>>65309472Should I get this Infinity Black Nitrided?It’s currently cerakoted.
>>65309533I would look at getting a larger flare for your magwell, that's so narrow I don't see how you ever reload it at speed
>>65309355>Ackchyually, you can use the Gay2 as a shitty suppressor mount if you get an adapter from Grifting Armament>>65309340I never claimed to be anyone else, you assumed I was.>>65309365>priority would probably be edc>home defense taking 3rdThose are in the same category of self defense* but there's seems to be a misconception that the Castle doctrine means you're allowed to shoot any intruder for any reason. In reality, it behooves you to claim "I feared for my life" because saying anything else e g "I caught this guy trying to steal my silver so I gave him the lead" might get you arrested and convicted of second degree homicide.*In some jurisdictions, you're allowed to defend one stranger from another but always verify local and state law.
He’s posting complete nonsense now
>be heavy spaghetti dropper, anxious socially awkward type>always wanted to get into guns but could never work up the courage to actually go and buy one plus mom was anti-gun and scared of them. >she dies and its just me now.>finally go and buy a gun>do nothing with it for almost 2 years it just sits in my nightstand. >finally decide to actually shoot it and order range ammo, targets, ear and eye pro (not sure if latter is needed or not but I wanted to be sure)>pick out local range>attempt to go to today>road construction blocks my preplanned route along with another way I knew. >turn around and come home rather than try and find a way around and risk getting lost.just feels like the world is conspiring against me. I wonder if I'll ever actually get off my ass and attempt to go again. Should I just give up if I'm that type of person? The first time something goes wrong I just quit.
>>65309635I know this didn't happen but my nigga gps that shit pussy
>>65309565>Mentally ill tard doesn't know the KAC M4SYou're too mentally unwell to have firearms
>>65309640Just happened and I didn't have a place to pull over to check my phone.
>>65309649how are people this pathetic?
>>65309649If what you're describing is actually going on in your life you need serious therapy or to grow a fucking pair
>>65309649I've been NEET 20 years and I get it bro, just try again next time. You can do it
>>65309635This is usually used as an insult, but I mean it 100% genuinely: seek help.
>>65309700I've actually made some progress. I was an almost hikkimori when mom died and I can go out in public and stuff now. I just get very nervous when doing new things. I'm also scared that if I tell a therapist I have a gun they'll 3 day hold me and I'll lose my rights.
>>65309584He's skinwalking as a tripfag from /arg/ but without any relevant experience. This is some Temu A2grips shit.
>>65309635Here's what I want you to do right now niggaGet in your car, don't even bring your gun. Just have your phone with you, maybe set a timer for half an hour, but just start driving around. Get lost, and then find somewhere safe to pull over when the timer goes off and use gmaps to get home
>>65309565>grip breaking every single round>on a fucking 92jesus
>>65309472Felt the same when I picked up the P with the DLC option. Definitely grew on me as well. Something pleasing about a murdered out 2011.
>>65309723Being a spode is not a threat to yourself or others.
>>65309778So if I tell one I bought a gun after my mom died they won't assume I bought it for an hero intentions? I assume I tell any of them my issues and I have ticked the own a gun box then they'll be looking for a reason to lock me up.
>>65309796Look up the laws in your state first if youre worried
>>65308561the DJI nano sucksI have one, i've used it for matches, it has a very bad habit of either running into you or completely losing track of you and becoming a hazard for everyone involved
>>65309815>it has a very bad habit of either running into you or completely losing track of you>dis nigga talkin bout dem dronesThe camera
>>65309840oh i was evidently thinking of the DJI neo theninsta360 better even though the company itself is super gay
>>65308561My range kicks out anyone with a phone or recording device out, as it should be, you’re there to shoot, not fuck around with electronics just so you can show all the other autists how bad you are on a Kazak goat-milking forum.
>>65309852>fuck around with electronics>having a rectangle on your cap is fucking around with electornicsgay boomer range protecting their crappy shooters for being exposed as hrthands-tier shooters.
>>65309860I don't want feds walking around with facial recog cams on their foreheads at my local range the next time a dem gets in office.
>>65309878Do you carry a phone on you when youre at the range? Do you get cash out at random atms at odd times far away from the range. Data brokers probably know when you go shooting and when you shit.
>>65309878just admit you don't want to be exposed as a shitty shooter LMAO
>>65309894NTA but this glows
>>65309878There are 10s of thousands of plate readers in your state, possibly hundreds of thousands if it's a large/populous state. They know exactly where you are and when. That's ignoring the GPS enabled device in your pocket.
>>65309883Google says my shooting range reviews were read by thousands of people and regularly asks if they have wheelchair access.
>>65309635I've been very much the same way most of my life, a nervous wreck with high anxiety. Getting better with my guns and carrying them has had the biggest calming effect in my life, knowing that no matter how bad a situation gets, I have a way to protect my life. I'm also not great at driving and directions like you, so I prepare by trying to figure out the simplest route and memorising (best as I can) the turns to make (sound like you do this too). The more I drive the route the less anxious I get and now going to the range is a breeze. It's well worth it figuring out another route for the time being and going to the range. Walking out of the range after a good session is like leaving the gym after a great workout, cathartic.
>>65309516What brand bore laser do you use?
>>65309642>I wasn't referring to a MD adapter, I meant the shitty suppressor that's useless for anything other than clooning because muh SOVL>>65309758Yeah, very unfortunate. Picked that video because it reminded me of the 92B (said to be an Italian police trade in) I tried during a shooting range meetup in the before times. Having a trigger pull longer than my Glock was a surprise, that was my only Beretta 92 experience >>65309727I emulate my opponents to level the playing field.>>65309635Every man should be capable of navigation, getting lost is for women. Beth once questioned me for not checking the GPS app after we left the restaurant as if I haven't been traveling these roads for over 10 years, kek.>>65309768>front sight elevated in both examplesThis is the fucking way!
>>65309972I got some cheap chinese ones off amazon, thats all.
Just go back to /arg/ please
Anyone in NYS here? Whats with this tax budget Glock ban?
>>65308229Did Korth hire some of the meth heads from Keltech?
>>65309993We will never be that lucky. Lilybin is a genuine plague
>>65308229Can I get it in white for the golf ball edition
I'm dryfiring and working on my draw today. I like the HC belt/gcode holster set up so far. Working pretty well with no belt loops
>>65308703>The SureFire three prong [SF3P] is the superior flash suppressor on carbine length barrels>>65309332>The SureFire three prong also has the feature of suppressor mounting but go ahead and keep holding the bag on Gay2 birdcages over muh SOVL or whateverI was way too generous with "midwit." You are more of a sub-moron troglodyte. I made a simple and true statement about the A2 and you spaz out about a SF3P that you do not own. stop posting. >>65308703>You wouldn't last three rounds with me in a boxing match.>>65309332>Square up or shut up, simple as.You wouldn't do shit, bitch.
Me personally? I like the griffin dual-lok muzzle devices
the SF3P is good but implying that surefire is the best at anything when they haven't fixed the fucking warcomp carbon lock issue should be grounds for being tossed off a bridge
>>65308561QRD on the nano? I already fell for one /hg/ meme this year. What's another one.
>>65310130>/hg/
>>65310130>carbon lock issue...after how many rounds without cleaning?
>>65310200>...after how many rounds without cleaning?uh, like a minimum of 90. not only is there no labyrinth seal to prevent fouling of the locking collar, but the porting vents directly onto said locking collar, creating nice little circles of built-up carbon that are impossible to remove from the mating surface and that you have to whack the suppressor with a mallet to remove, or shoot it off. >source: i own one and zeroed before a match with three magazines and experienced carbon locking with my SB2
Wait is this the wrong thread?
>>65310208What ammo? Sounds like youre shooting blackpowder or something foul
>>65310223winchester white box M193it's a well-known product issue and has nothing to do with ammunition or cleaning.
>>65310130>implying that surefire is the best at anythingThe SF3P objectively suppresses flash on a carbine the best short of a cylindrical MD.>warcompBad design like 5.56mm comps and brakes in general.>>65310120>made a simple and true statement about the A2It's misleading because the A2 was designed for 20" barrels and makes no real difference in muzzle rise. >wouldn't do shitYou think I'd duck our boxing match? >>65309993I have a feeling someone is going to dox me and then we'll be free of each other at last.
>>65310227Is your inability to know how to remove carbon also a well known issue?
BerettaAnon(s), are modern OEM and MecGar mags for 92FS compatible with 92F/S/SBs? Or is it like CZ where the pre-B is not compatible with the B
>>65310230>>65310227>>65310208Take this gayniggerfaggot shit to /arg/
>>65310230the A2 was not designed to reduce recoil, it was designed to avoid kicking shit up from the ground when firing prone and by the time the A2FH was designed, there were already multiple short-barreled iterations of the M16 that the A1 birdcage was already used on. Prior to the A1 birdcage, a three-prong was used on the XM16E1>>65310235it has nothing to do with maintenance, retard.a $170 muzzle device should not be shitting carbon directly into the locking surface of my $1400 suppressor such that after a mere 3 magazines, I need to unlock it and fire said $1400 suppressor downrange into the gravel to get it off. I should not need to sit there with a brass brush, solvent, and carb cleaner for 40 minutes afterwards scraping the inside of the mating surface.>>65310241yesno changes between the S through FS series affected the magwell or release buttonthe only thing I'd worry about is tolerance stacking of the magwell to the magazine if you buy some gucci shit like NP3-coated mec-gars which in my experience can be very sticky until they wear in
>>65307691
>talks with confidence and false expertise on thing he doesn't even ownWhat causes this?
>>65310241Oem yes other brands maybe. Some just dont do the slot cut for the heel release. Go google pictures of the brand and see if the cut exists.Its not like cz where the mags physically wont fit. It will have 2 mag catches or it wont.
>>65310264Yeah so you put a brand new warcomp on your gun and in 3 mags it was instantly locked on huh?
>>65309565>AckchyuallyActually shut the fuck up nigger you know less about ARs than you do pistols.
>>65310279can you just make your fucking point instead of bothering me with gay passive-aggressive interrogatives every time I post? Otherwise the autistic retard that doesn't know how to respond to posts is going to have a histrionic meltdown and tell us to go to /arg/ againYes, after approximately 90 rounds sighting in my rifle which had a Warcomp Rocksett'd on from the BCM factory for a night match, my SB2 was carbon locked to my warcomp to the point that I had to whack it with a mallet at home to get it off. There is no labyrinth gas seal on the warcomp and the porting at 12 o'clock on the MD sprays hot carbon directly onto the locking ring, and has nothing to do with maintenance of the firearm because it happens within a course of fire, not between outings. This carbon is possible to get off with a lot of elbow grease, but the discoloration to the locking surface can't be removed easily if at all. In my opinion this is unacceptable performance for a $170 muzzle device advertised to be fully compatible with the SOCOM "quick disconnect" system. I don't care if you don't believe me, there are a shitton of other people on the internet who have also experienced this problem.need any more information, professor?
I remember when /hg/ was about pistols
>>65310333right on cue
>>65310335>Goes to thread not about AR's>Derails with AR shit all day>"Heh did I trigger you librul?"
>>65310352here, now it's about handguns again
>>65310385Ahhh much better
>>65310333Still is about self reloading handguns
>>65310264>>65310276Arigathankya gozaisomuch lads
>>65310443ariglocko gozimasikoch
can anyone id these for me I am retarded
>>65310456left looks like a P238right is a S&W Model 500
>>65310456those appear to be handguns
>>65310456FAMAS-K, the short version on the left
>>65310241even oem doesnt always have the heel slot.
>>65310230>The SF3P objectively suppresses flash on a carbine the best >he doesn't know about B.E. MeyersWhy do you even care? You don't own any of this stuff, or their equivalents, or ever shoot, let alone ever shoot in the dark. >makes no real difference in muzzle rise.Wrong, fucktard. If you ever shot guns you'd know these things. >You think I'd duck our boxing match?Yes. Why not? You already duck owning more than one (1) gun, buying ammo, actually shooting, and NOT being a raging retard faggot on the internet.
>>65310456FN baby browning and a Harrington & Richardson model 1880
>>65310456Is that a famas?
>>65310456>id these for me>>65310472>left looks like a P238^This>right is a S&W Model642
>>65310631Dont play with your gun on your grandma's bed dude
>>65307189Grim if true. Taxpayers shouldn’t be paying 5x more for a handgun that does everything a Glock does just because the feds want to feel pretty
>>65307189Boy I am sure am glad my tax dollars are going to fund 3 thousand dollar handguns for FBI agents who barely ever get into gunfights.
>>65309778One of my sister's boyfriends is diagnosed schizo and it's fucking impossible to get them to hold him even with both his parents onboard. It's honestly alarming but anyway my point is I'm not so worried about them committing me for no reason.>>65309796Don't tell them you bought a gun. That isn't their business. Tell that frigid bitch to get a warrant if she wants to know.
Ay nigga those usp .45 mags at midway are backorder right now but they're on sale for $39. Free shipping if you spend 100 so that's three mags to free shipping.
>>65310868>>65310863They’re more like 2k if not cheaper and the better accuracy under duress is cheaper than dead agents or hit bystanders
>>65308593All of mine do
>>65310926Thanks for the heads-up. They're backordered but it's still a good deal
>>65310954The last time I did it it was only like a week and a half. Could have just gotten lucky then but I'm not hurting for mags in the meantime so I can wait.
>>65306959The P-01 is smaller and lighter, much easier to carry around and also has a rail. Gun for one with a Kansas City rollmark since CZ is gay as fuck and decided to move everything to Connecticut because of the Eurofag C*lt worshipping mindset, immediately after giving me a job offer at KC. I'm still super livid over this. Anyway the CZ75 was like "the" gun recommended here for a crazy long time, but they were $300 back then. They're still fun and they're pretty unique.Also, technically new gun though not my first P2000 I've ever had, and my first post in like four months. Muddy river holster without a light in it on the way as the paddle holster this came with is a meme. I wanted to try Modlite's P350 for this since Cloud has QC issues these days, I have three TLR7A/X's and my TLR1HL was somehow broken when I received it. Still works in a mega autistic way but the battery cap holder thing with the switches is snapped off at the metal flange flap things. At least the P2000 was $500. Didn't come with a case, manual, or extra backstraps, just three mags and a holster inside some tan zipup... Thing. I have several HK mags already so it's a nothingburger, I'll grab some of the xgrip slider things to use 15's, 17's and 20's in the gun. My only Shartfires are 640DF's and they're cool, but I don't wanna get an X300 when I can try Modlite. Wanted a CD pistol Rein but they're both never in stock and I just see constant bitching about Cloud online in other forums, sometimes here but not all the time. It seems I should shrimply have Surefire and Streamlight only. Oh well. I'm also not sure what to get as a light-bearing holster (muddy river doesn't do P2000 holsters with lights) since I'm insane and IWB these godforsaken light-bearing behemoths, my P-01 and VP9 included.
>>65310977Fuck, sorry. Somehow me struggling with the captcha for 20 minutes removed my picture from my post. Forgive me for my autism crimes, of which there are many
>>65310863>>65310868Getting away from the strikerslop stranglehold on the industry is worth any amount of my tax dollars.
>>65310979What mag holder?
Dang the p2000 is discontinued? Since when
>>65310988It was either from JM custom kydex or muddy river tactical for a doublestack - works with the 13-round HK mags as you can see, though it doesn't work for the 12-round Smith CSX mags when they're almost the identical size. Pisses me off but whatever. I pretty much only get my holsters from those two companies. Muddy gamer's woodland print is quite faded but I like it anyway. I can take a picture of it for my CSX since my P2000 one is still being made, they've got (had? may have expired, apologies) an Independence Day sale for like 30% off your order so it'll be ~$90 instead of $140 if you add a bunch of crap you don't need like I do such as moar clips, non-ODG/FDE/Generic Kydex Colors, stuff like that. It works for 14 and 15-count CZ75 mags as well, and the 20-round HK mags fit in it just fine, too. It's hilarious
>>65310990most users pick the USP-S for pistol round, the P2000 got the reputation for being the scrub gun for people who can't aim
>>65310960Yeah I have 5 12rd mags and 1 10rd soci think I should put that $100 to a holster instead
>>65310995>muddy river tacticaFINALLY A fucking IWB mag holster that isn't $30+ I know gun stuff adds a premium but fucking pistol mag holders are not worth actual holster money. I was about to buy some amazog trash
>>65311010For what you're describing amazog is completely fine
>>65310999>holsterOh yeah that's a better call. I got a safariland off ebay for pretty cheap. Don't even want to know what they cost now.
>>65310990Too soon considering it's the gun HK made I actually like using. Januaryish last year I think? I kept staring at the ODG P2000 on eurooptic for $500 and continued to stall. One went on fuddbroker for $1,500 like two days before I bought mine as soon as it was listed. Anyway here's a crappy picture of meme river's woodland holster pattern.>>65311010That would be gravely unfortunate
>Boomers listing century arm mp5 repros at 3000$ usedThis generation cannot bleed off fast enough
>NOW BUDDY I KNOW WHAT I GOT
uh oh
>>65311023Yea I might still do it, especially because I don't ever intend to actually carry spare mags IWB, it's just for IDPA stuff.
>>65311028Which safariland are you using for your USP? I had a bear of a time finding one for mine and I'm still not completely sold on it.
>>653111726004 maybe? I'm not in love with it but I'm done buying holsters for that gun.
>>65310264>A2 was not designed to reduce recoilThat's exactly my point. It's the other anon arguing otherwise.>>65310296You'd be a FRKO, I can already tell.>>65310602At least I actually attempted the Rousseau Drill (videoed) which I guess you never in your life tried.>duck owning more than one (1) gunYou must be new here.
>>65311180>I'm done buying holsters for that gun.Yea I hear that, I love the thing but accessories are a pain.
Lilybin aim <3
>>65311200I have that same belt.
>>65311139Rideout Dragon bros…It’s over
>>65311218Yea it's good shit for cheap, no reason not to. And I switched to Esstacs after a few months.
>>65311229Their belts are fantastic. They are the oem for those ronin belts. My other belt has all esstacs, carrying .308 on my hip is just not enough of a priority.
>>65311197>>A2 was not designed to reduce recoil>That's exactly my point. It's the other anon arguing otherwise.You are an extremely dumb fucking nigger. Pretty sure no one, and definitely NOT me, ever said and A2 reduced recoil. >>65308558>Compensating or braking a 9mm pistolYou might want to learn the difference between a comp and a brake and what they do. >At least I actually attempted>Fails by using homemade Minecraft looking targetBetter luck next year when you shoot again.>You must be new here.Post your other shit heaps so I can laugh at them.
>>65311258Erm technically it would since it vents gas and has weight at the end of the barrel
Are there any good American gun manufacturers or are they all fucking shit?
>>65311244Have you used their EDC belt? I was thinking about it to replace my old leather one.
>>65311278>Erm technically it would sinceI consneed
>>65311283Atlas Nighthawk Custom Infinity SVIStaccatoACW
>>65311258>no one, and definitely NOT meRight there >>65308623 claiming it acts like a comp just because the lower ports are missing.>homemade Minecraft looking targetSame dimensions as the two A zones of an IPSC silhouette. If I hadn't traced my own then you would have claimed the one on the left was mine so it looks like distinguishability is another advantage to DIY targets.>Post your otherNot for a nogunz POS like you.>>65311283Glock USA is JustAsGood
>>65311283America makes: Shit gunsShit cars (including Japanese cars made by burger hands)And money for isrealHope this helps
>>65311197Can't hit the C zone if there's no C zone
>>65311283M&Ps are based
>>65311289>Right there >>65308623 (You) claiming it acts like a comp just because the lower ports are missing.See >>65311258>learn the difference between a comp and a brake and what they do.>Same dimensions as>nogunz POS like you.>Absolute nigger babbleFrom now on everything you post will just be considered trolling and treated accordingly.
>>65311291Midwit take
>>65311293The C-zone is still there, I just don't shade it anymore because there's no point. The second round was a Charlie but I made up for it with both Alphas and an average split time of .50s>>65311300Your reply isn't formatted correctly.>babbleSo you actually are new. >treated accordinglyLike when you were reined in by management after years of NSFW floods? Dude– weed, LMAO>>65311200Cool USP but have you considered getting an optic for your MK2 BCM QRF?
>>65311300Yeah that's Lilybin aka SNAPbin aka Brokebin aka Thread ShitterYou should never respond to it
Does the posting of the traced targets count as avatarfagging
>>65311380Its funny how he promised to be better but simply being told that he was coping about not being able to afford an optic instead of being rational sent him over the edge.
>>65311283Marlin.
>>65311911Yes
>>65311964If you think this is me "over the edge" then you either have a short memory or are incredibly new here. In any case, finishing the job isn't what LBA would have wanted.>coping about not being able to afford an opticI'll buy one on credit when the industry produces on that can be mounted without permanently modifying my slide. The ball on that rolling now with the super magnet plate that uses the rear sight as a lug>>65312231My DIY silhouettes are JustAsGood but go ahead and keeping letting the paper target merchant nickel and dime you.
Why is this retard opining on things he doesn't even own.
>>65312236>I'll buy one on creditSasuga
>>65312263Me about to buy the Staccato that I want. Actually I'm saving up for this one. Should have enough within a month or two.
>>65312269Saving is better than buying on credit.>I draw my own targets to avoid giving my shekels to the target jew>willingly enters into an arrangement to pay interest on a discretionary purchaseThe absolute state of this performative moron.
>>65312272Cash back on credit purchases, you mongoloid
>>65312345>cash back>get 2% back on a 15-17% APR loanAs expected of Challenger Hellcat buyers (at 40%APR)
>>65312269Me trying to pay off my credit card before the used M&P Competitor I want gets sold. (And before I have to pay interest on it, they'll never get a fucking dime out of me.)
>>65312236You are making post after post and paragraph after paragraph just seething on shit you cant afford. You are mad as fuck lmao
>>65312375He's already making plans on making a financially retarded move on a thing he can't afford.
>>65311200>>65311218What belt are you two using? And the rifle mag pouches if you don't mind. Second poster, it looks like AWS pouches for the handgun mags?
>>65312422I am first poster, it's an AWS Labs belt, like the other guy said they're the OEM for Ronin and a few other high end battle belts, but they're literally half the price (about $80 for just the inner+outer belt and buckle)I have HSG Tacos on there but I ended up replacing them with Esstac Kywis, I like the feel of them better. Also do not buy double rifle+pistol mag pouches, it's too much weight in one place, and they stick out like 5 inches.
>>65312449Thanks for that info>Do not buy double rifle+pistol mag pouchesToo late on the pistol, but I'll note the rifle ones.
i just found actual inox extractors for the 92fsits the last part i havent been able to find an inox part for on my new 92fs inox to finish ghosting it outthe order has been stuck on 'processing' though and i fear they were actually out of stock, pray for me anons
>>65309533Do you think the old svi's that have that look are a decent value? The only thing that bugs me is the (admittedly sexy) frame with no rail but besides that the proposition of a well-built 2011 at less than 2k for some is intriguing. I guess a lot were used heavily in competition.>>65310631No need to shoot after permanently destroying your attacker's retinas.
>>65309533i think wear on pistols looks cool, its kinda like scarstells a story
>>65312236>I'll buy one on creditLike pottery
>>65312597after yours is confirmed can you share the link?
>>65312609Not only that but he wants to buy a total fucking meme on credit instead of just buying the optics cut slide so he doesnt inevitably have to buy twice. He is not avoiding the brokie making bad financial decisions label.
>>65312599If you see an SVI under 2k, fucking get it. The non retarded looking SVI Infinities are super sexyBut it might not be an SVI SVI. For a short while they sold frames with their branding and then stopped since it hurt their brand image since guns not built by them bore their name. I have no idea if the gun I got for way too much is an actual SVI gun. The slide to frame fit is suspiciously loose, but it has an infinity slide, correct barrel (ultimatch), infinity internals except the hammer doesn't look like one but it has the right disconnector. I didn't notice but I bought a pre interchangable breechface version since it uses a traditional extractor It has a cerakote finish. The frame was drilled and tapped for a frame mount optic but they must have bondo'd the holes when they cerakoted it or something. I think maybe it was someone's Open gun they converted to limited or something when they didn't want to shoot Open anymore, it's in .40 S&W as it should be. It was not what I thought it was I'm coping but a beat up gun is kind of my thing so I don't feel THAT bad about shooting it. I was going to get it optic cut, refinished, and maybe find a guy to weld the frame rails to make it super tight again.Seems like Nighthawk would be my one stop shop>We have three different methods that we use depending on the job and what the customer wants. 1. The old school "squeeze and peen" method. 2. Weld up frame rails and re-fit. 3. Acc-U-Rails install.
>Buy it on credit card>Instantly pay it offI refuse to use by debit card for anything.
>>65312680I use a credit card for everything but keep it always paid off, as a shield since if my CC is stolen it's not really my money and their fraud detection/resolution is relatively painless. If my debit card info is stolen they're literally taking money out of my checking account. While I worked at the gunstore I was astounded by the amount of people using debit cards and not credit cards. Perhaps they did not have parents that cheated the system and put me on their card when I was young to build my credit. >he uses a debit card at the indian owned gas stationNGMI
>>65312692>Perhaps they did not have parents that cheated the system and put me on their card when I was young to build my credit.Kek. My parents did this shit too. By the time I started using it myself I already had a 700+ credit score and now I'm always around 800.
>>65312692I used my debit card exclusively for years, I wanted nothing to do with the CC jew. Now that I got older I realized how easy it is to use their benefits and give them nothing.
>>65312678I think when I said 2k I was confusing then with old STIs (no coffee yet) because I'm now realising how crazy finding an old svi for that cheap would be. Sucks to hear that the previous customer slopped on some cerakote. The squeeze a peen method (literally just squeezing the slide rails inward right?) always seemed to me like it should be a last resort for a home gunsmith, not as great for long term.You could also get the barrel reamed out for 10mm or do it yourself. I don't think infinity does many 10mm guns anymore as that would break most of their new clientele's wrists. Do 40 s&w 2011 mags have spacers at the back?
When I elevate the front post to treat it like a red dot sight, my group shifts 4.5 inches high at seven yards. For the upper A-zone, I kept the sights level (combat hold) which fucked up my target focus so the group wandered to the left. My options now are from most expensive to least1. Void the lifetime warranty by having my slide milled and drilled for an optic.2. Remove my rear sights and treat the front like a bead3. Shoot instinctively>>65312365>Challenger HellcatYou made that up.>>65312670>total fucking memeI'm not in any hurry to purchase a magnetic optic mount. Spoiled brats like you will do the beta testing for me.
I was the guy who pussied out of going to the range yesterday but I did it today. Shot ~250 rounds from a glock 17. Noticed I had a ton of failure to feed and a couple double feed malfunctions. In some cases at least once a mag. Was I doing something wrong? Limp wristing maybe? Shots tended to go to the lower left of the target.
>>65312734I dont need to buy that shit I can afford a proper mount on my slide poorfag.
>You brats will beta test for me heh>SSIbin
>>65312733>Do 40 s&w 2011 mags have spacers at the back?these don'tModern STI 40/10mm mags are the same mag. I don't know if Atlas or other brands use a spacer. >barrel to 10mmprobably get a replacement barrel, experiment with a 9mm barrel on a .40 breechface. I need to start reloading so reloading for 10 and 40 in addition to .45 makes sense. >>65312737limp wristing is a big one for glocks. I remember one range trip I was next to a guy trying to show a girl how to shoot but neither of them could get through a 5 shot string without limp wristing their glock.shooting a handgun starts with your hands but it should involve your entire upper bodyhttps://youtu.be/kNnlAJkHbdQI shoot alot like this guyhttps://youtu.be/rxEkxtLyjc4he does an isoceles stance, you want to get your entire upper body behind the gun whenever you can, see how the recoil is distributed across his arms into his shoulders in the slowmo.
>>65312737is it real ammo?did you buy this gun new?are they real oem glock magsit shouldnt be happening if everything is actually in normal working order but you cant assume anything anymore. for all we know your "glock 17" is some random chinese slide with a random chinese parts kit on a 3d printed frame. with ammo that was soaking in the ocean for 3 months. in which case yeah it being a pos that jams constantly is expected.
>>65312734So you're paying 40APR on a regular Dodge Challenger? LMAO
>>65312737>Was I doing something wrong?If you left your pistol in factory configuration then probably. The only times I ever had failures to feed or eject with my Glock 17 was because of a loose grip or faulty primer (pictured) from remanufactured ammunition.>>65312741Check your privilege.
>>65312769Fiocchi and PMC bronze 115 grain FMJ. New gun but I've had it for a year and half, its just sat in my nightstand between when I bought it and today. 2 mags that the gun came with, assuming OEM, they say glock on them.
>>65312777Kek, checked
>>65312737I would add one drop of lube to each slide rail, and also leave the slide locked back for a day or more to let the recoil spring take a "set" (just helps break the gun in a little)
>>65312785ok if its not the ammo, mags or usererror.its most likely one of theseuser error is easy to diagnose you have somebody else like a range officer put a mag through the gun. if it works flawlessly its you.then its this shits in backwards which is more common than you think when people think they are gunsmiths.if you see black its wrong.guns dirty carbon buildup under the extractor/weak extractor springdamaged extractorrecoil spring is worn outunlikely but wrong ejector installed in the gun, the 40 and 9mm ones are different
>people immediately blame the gun or the ammo or lack of lubricant for a first time shooter having malfunctions with his glock
>>65312844>lack of lubricant>he doesn't run his gun wetNGMI
>>65312844I have yet to clean my glock after owning it for 2 years.
>>65312785PMC Bronze is a little under pressured but Fiocchi has always been GTG so it's probably a skill issue. You've been too scared to visit the range so it makes sense you'd be flinching and limp wristed your first time.
What's more cringe, leaning into your firearm or leaning back?
>>65312872https://youtu.be/ajmI1P3r1w4?si=M8ZVrdZLIzJ_sVzZLeaning in.
>>65312863PMC had slightly more malfunctions but I shot the Fiocchi first. My hands were kinda getting tired by the end. Didn't help there was a boomer with a deer rifle in the lane next to me which I admit kinda rattled me a little as well.
>>65312737What happens if you load a full magazine and cycle slide by hand, does it feed properly, any issues, rough spots in slide travel? If something gets stuck, there's some mechanical fitment issue, Glocks are very loose guns but may still have issues like that, especially if barrel is aftermarket or you do weird shit with glocks like me. Especially extractor >>65312837 is suspect, make sure it's whole and not broken, and is under spring tension. If everything is smooth when you cycle manually, do FTF happen with certain magazines only? If yes, check those magazine springs, worn underpowered spring pushes round upwards too slowly, making slide contact it too early, resulting in FTF. If all mags are affected, see if the recoil spring/rod are ok. If recoil spring is too heavy, low powered ammo might not push slide far enough so it, again, picks up the next round too soon, points it too low, and FTF. Same could happen due to "limp wristing" but it's a mythical problem, no one really holds guns in a loose grip, usually it's the springs or extractor.
>it's the gun and not the fact ITS A BRAND NEW SHOOTER SHOOTING A GLOCK
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>>65312926you really have to be incompetent as hell for it to be user error. if youve got 20 new maleshooters who are handed a glock maybe 1-2 of them will limpwrist. and they will stop when the trainer says hey your holding it wrong.now if you add in women children or the elderly/infirm that number skyrockets but its not that common.you can hand a glock to almost anyone and it will cycle. they probably wont hit. but its a user friendly gun.most people would have to be intentionally trying to limpwrist a glock for it to malfunction consistently.if his form is even halfway right and hes not weak its going to cycle.
>>65312885>boomer with a deer rifle in the lane next to meOh, yeah– that would be a vibe check. Hopefully, you'll be conditioned to the stress in time but some people never get acclimated to the noise, recoil and filth of it all.
>>65312910Its a bone stock gun, I have never replaced or changed anything about it. FTF happened with both of them but not consistently. Sometimes I shot all 17 rounds no problem and other it would FTF 3-4 times.
>>65312969>Sometimes I shot all 17 rounds no problem and other it would FTF 3-4 times.do you remember if it was one specific mag doing it?like hey i fired a full mag no jams then you reload and the other mag has jams.
>>65312983I'm pretty sure both mags would do it but I never took notice if one was doing more than the other.
>>65312737That's pretty normal for Glocks, I wouldn't worry
>>65312449Pretty much like the other anon said. The pistol mag pouches are kywis. The rifle mags are hsgi tacos. I don’t really like them but at the time I NEEDED every piece of kit to work with every rifle. Now I don’t care, if I have my .308 I’ll use gear based around that. fwiw I can fit vz58 mags in the 5.56 kywis and supposedly people can fir ak mags in them. So that’s one pouch for two mag types at least.
