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What was the fanciest army ever? Bonus points for being so fancy that it gets in the way of your military prowess.
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>>65354108
Just do a Google search
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Way too vast to ever pick one. Roman, wehrmacht/SS, Aztec (less "uniform" more regalia), gilded Renaissance armor (again often customized), samurai..

Perhaps The practicality of modern attire is less fanciful than what you saw in the past. Also some may seem purely utilitarian because it's a another culture, yet would be considered beautiful through its respective lens.
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>>65354108
Max drip.
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>>65354180
Cute sparrows.
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>>65354180
They're definitely up there.
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>>65354108
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>>65355927
french uniforms peaked in the napoleonic wars
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That one germ vs swiss battle where the sabatons were too long for the knights to fight on foot and they all got swiss cheesed.
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>>65354161
>>65354108
>less "uniform" more regalia

IDK what the formal definition of "uniform" is, but I would say Aztec military equipment seem to fit what i'd consider the definition to be, depending on what pieces of equipment/garments you're talking about.

Tlahuiztli warsuits (technically, "Tlahuiztli" seems to refer to any piece of worn military equipment, or the full combo of different equipment worn together, but many modern sources use Tlahuiztli specifically in regards to the full body warsuits), Ehuatl skirted warjackets, back mounted banners, and even certain jewelry or specific hairstyles were things that were variously awarded or exclusive to specific military titles, orders, offices, or ranks (The Mexica of the Aztec capital of Tenochtitlan seems to have BOTH had a normal rank structure or even multiple rank pathways; special awarded titles, which sometimes were but may not have always also been permanent offices for generals, commanders or captains; and there may have been military guilds/orders. How those all intersect isn't entirely clear), where wearing those things indicated those ranks, offices, titles etc, with certain banners, shield emblems, or tlahuiztli, ehuatl and shield etc colors also indicating unit division

An outfit representing your affiliation with a organization/institution, and/or your position within it in terms of rank or department/unit, is pretty much how i'd define a uniform, the main/only difference being that uniforms in my mind are typically shared across the whole organization/institution with indications of rank or unit usually being things like badges on the same shared uniform, wheras within the Mexica system, Tlahuiztli vs Ehuatl vs potentially other options were entirely different types of base garments, and lower ranking soldiers didn't wear anything like that at all, just a breechcloth and/or the Ichcahuipilli gambeson vests/tunics (which higher status soldiers wore beneath the Tlahuiztli, Ehuatl etc)

1/2
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>>65357470
>>65354161
>>65354108
Cont:

The other way they'd be different from uniforms is that while certain warsuit/warjacket designs, shield emblems, banners, jewelry, or color variations of those things may SUGGEST or be exclusive to specific ranks, orders, offices, titles etc or specific unit divisions, that does not mean that all individuals of a given category ALWAYS wore those garments/status indicators.

This is something that seems to trip a lot of people up, because say the Codex Mendoza seems to show a simple, clean visualization of rank progression for normal soldiers and warrior priests separately, but in reality, rank structure might have branched out and those just show one path each, and some of the ranks shown are really offices or special titles or orders, and simply because the former pathway shows, say, the soldier who had captured 3 enemies soldiers with Ichcahuipilli and a butterfly style back banner, did not mean that ALL soldiers of a 3-captive rank wore butterfly banners: It just means that they COULD or SOMETIMES wore such banners, and other times they wore other combinations of equipment.

If people are interested I can dump/post a fuckhuge writeup my friend did explaining Mexica military structure on discord a few weeks ago, he is also working on a part 2 of that.

2/3
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>>65357501
>>65357501
>>65354108
cont:

All that said, yes, Aztec and other Central Mexican military equipment should absolutely be in the running for the most fancy, opulent, and garish examples of military garments around:

Full body suits and jackets/tunics with skirts made from tens of thousands of feathers, the mosaic of feathers (which also covered the fronts of higher status shields and the outside surface of helmets, both of which also had plates/inlays of precious metals and precious stones) forming patterns and emblems, with the feathers potentially being color changing and iridesecent (as seen in feather mosaic "paintings" they also made, see pic), plus jade, obsidian, turquoise, shell, gold, silver etc pieces of jewelry being worn

Honestly the Landsknecht >>65354180 >>65354492 >>65355720 are some of the only other historical soldiers I think that give them competition
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>>65357504
whoops, forgot my 3/3 there

Have a bonus image
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>>65357470
>>65357501
>not a single extant example
Not real. Made up. Sorry its false.
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>>65357578
We have hundreds of extant examples of the same technique being applied to "paintings/tapestries", as I posted in >>65357504, though. Plus there are 4 surviving extant shields, see pic

None of the helmets, warsuits, and warjackets survive today, but we have descriptions and depictions of them not just from the Spanish in Mexico, but also from people back in Europe as hundreds were shipped over to Europe at the time and were mentioned by Spanish court historians as well as visitors to museum exhibits of them in Europem, and they get mentioned in some shipment inventory logs

For example, here is Albrecht Durer (one the most famous German artists at the time) describing some he saw in display in Brussels:

>I saw the things which have been brought to the King from the new land of gold (Mexico), a sun all of gold a whole fathom broad, and a moon all of silver of the same size, also two rooms full of the armor of the people there, and all manner of wondrous weapons of theirs, harness and darts, very strange clothing, beds, and all kinds of wonderful objects of human use, much better worth seeing than prodigies. These things were all so precious that they are valued at 100,000 florins. All the days of my life I have seen nothing that rejoiced my heart so much as these things, for I saw amongst them wonderful works of art, and I marveled at the subtle [ingenuity] of men in foreign lands. Indeed I cannot express all that I thought there.

And of course the Anonymous Conquistador's description is already included in the image posted in >>65357470

I can post even more descriptions if you want
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I know that the annoying faggots among you will sperg out at me for saying it, but the nazis will always be remembered as the coolest looking military force. I get that there's plenty of shit before that is colorful and cool, but it's frankly just ridiculous by modern standards.
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>>65358249
the inspiration for all super villains
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>>65358249
Yeah, hugo boss cooked. Its a shame spergs and thirdies latches onto it tho.
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>>65358249
more villain inspo
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>>65358249
their inspo
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>>65358249
modern twists
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>>65358249
vampire core
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>>65358270
Boss didn't design any uniforms.
He just manufactured and sold some.
His inflated reputation comes from the fact that German NCOs and officers were required to have tailored uniforms, and Boss heavily advertised tailoring services in various publications aimed at military personnel and party members.
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>>65358249
some guy from /fa/. The germans had the coolest camos as well.
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>>65358249
if you want to look cool, here's a quality reproduction of the most badass leather jacket that was ever made. I got one of these for my sister and I can't believe how fucking cool this thing is. You have to get a tight fit though to get the effect. Don't expect a miracle if you're ugly, lack masculine features, short, fat, aesthetically retarded, etc.
https://www.epicmilitaria.com/german-black-leather-panzer-u-boat-wrap.html
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>>65358249
Eh I always thought they were trying too hard.
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>>65358641
This is a typical normie take on fashion. Look at the shit people do in the world of high fashion. You think they give a shit about trying too hard or looking weird? If you have any kind of passion for fashion then you're going to push limits while self actualizing your aesthetic. The nazis did that and made fashion a part of their arsenal of weapons.
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>>65354161
The average roman soldier was equipped with extremely practical and utilitarian gear for the time. Even stuff like centurions and officer's crest had a specific practical purpose, making commanders more identifiable during tense combat situations. yes, they did have people like the aquilifer, musicians and banner bearers who were more tricked out, but they were more cerimonial roles. not really expected to be the on the first line of battle
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>>65358724
>>65358641
>>65358249
It's really just the armband desu
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>>65358331
>why yes, i do like Tom of Findland. How could you tell?
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>>65358249
>I know that the annoying faggots among you will sperg out at me for saying it, but the nazis will always be remembered as the coolest looking military force
Whoa controversial!
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>>65358724
The nazis didn't look like retarded faggots like that dysgenic thing in your picture, though.
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>>65358991
Swiss right? always loved their retarded red camo, always hated their retarded helmet shape
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>>65358944
Don't threaten me with a good time.
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>>65358984
you look like a retarded faggot
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>>65358944
I actually do like him, minus the homo stuff.
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>>65358948
Amongst retarded faggots, yes that's right. Take your passive aggressive faggotry elsewhere.
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>>65358926
Nah, the armband adds contrast certainly. It's the leather and the professionalism. The sharp angles and controlled, out there silhouettes. If you've ever had some of the jackets and stuff yourself you'd see that it's just perfect.
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>>65357630
Are you the mesoamerican anon that has been info dumping here for years? Your text seems familiar, I've always enjoyed reading your posts even if I've read similar or the same before.
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>>65358298
I have a set of flectarn and it does fit much better than the same size DPM I have
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>>65359534
Technically there are multiple people who have done that, or even sometimes do it for/as me, but yes, I am. Ending my posts in the 1/?, 2/? 3/3 etc to indicate I'm not done posting is basically an easy way to tell if it's me doing it, though sometimes I have my friends post for me within the same formatting if I am busy

Though ironically I just realized I forgot to put 4/4 in >>65357630
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I’m going to go for a different answer and say the Austrian army of the Revolutionary and Napoleonic Wars. They had this impressive white uniform, which could actually be maintained in the field by covering up dirt with white pipe clay, so they’d be this wall of men in all white uniforms. However, they spent almost the entire period (1792-1814) joining almost every war against France and getting the shit kicked out of them. Some recruits were literal peasant conscripts who had never held a gun before entering battle, and their supply situation before Austerlitz was so fucked, the Archduke had to issue an order limiting ammo for target practice to 6 musket balls per soldier.
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>>65360610
Did your basic bitch line units even do target practice or was it literally just live fire drills as a group against some wooden boards or straw dummies
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>>65358282
She a cute
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>>65360681
Honestly, target practice is probably the wrong term, I was going off of memory. With line infantry of the period, their standard weapon was very inaccurate. It would have been more about weight of fire and tempo of volleys. So, more like live fire drills, maybe not even bothering with dummies or boards
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>>65357630
>For example, here is Albrecht Durer (one the most famous German artists at the time) describing some he saw in display in Brussels
Sucks that he didn't make any sketches.
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>>65358269
>the inspiration for all super heros
fixed your spelling mistake for you
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>>65358269
>>65358272
>villain
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>>65361136
Yeah, it's a shame, they would have been amazing references.

Some other artists in Europe did, but mostly during the 18th and 19th centuries, by which point a lot of the armor and clothing had already been lost. Those sketches do show some jewelry and stone mosaics that we wouldn't otherwise have records of, but most of the pieces in question are still accounted for today in museums, the ones that were lost since they got sketch mostly seem to have been causalities of the World Wars

There is one Prehispanic feather mosaic piece that survived in addition to the shields in >>65357630 and a chalice cover (which I didn't post pictures of), which was a breechcloth(?) covered in feather mosaic, and that was also a victim of WW2, see pic
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>>65358249
>mess waiter
That's just craig's 007
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>>65362319
lol, I thought of that too.
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>>65359784
Based, keep it up.
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>>65355964
If ever the opportunity presents itself, I would encourage all /k/ommandos to visit the museum of the French army at Les Invalides in Paris. There are hundred of examples of their 18th and 19th century uniforms in almost perfect condition, and it's remarkable. There are cavalry saddles draped in the pelts of leopards, there are hats with plumes of peackock or ostritch, there are arms and armor engraved and plated with every precious metal. What a wondrous place it is.

And of course the tomb of a short man of no particular significance.
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>>65357504
The feather art is so incredibly beautiful.
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>>65355927
>"Monsieur general, our brave soldiers are getting mowed down by the thousands because it's a trench war and everyone else is wearing brown, green, and gray, and we're wearing bright blue coats with bright blue pants"
>"Obviously camouflage is called for. We'll make the whole outfit blue, but it'll be a faded blue, the color of the sky, so we're invisible to the enemy, as long as we attack from directly above him"
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>>65364268
>Also it has to be a beautiful sunny day, it won't work if it's overcast and raining, or if there's a lot of smoke in the air. Luckily that never happens on the Western Front.
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>>65358249
It's /fa/, but it's really faggy looking. Like they look like a villain in an old movie where they make the villains act like weird creepy faggots to gross out the audience
It's like if Walk The Night was an army
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>>65364283
>walk the night
I meant "Cruising" with Al Pacino. The video for Walk The Night had a bunch of clips from that in it
Anyway, this is what the SS reminds me of https://youtu.be/zXyALtP85fY
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>>65362697
next time i visit I'll try it thanks. Also Quai Branly chads rise up
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>>65364268
The new uniforms were meant to have red-white-blue fibres because patriotism, the end result looked greyish, but because the red dyes were sourced from germany, they could only use the blue and white ones. Still, horizon blue was good enough for the war.
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>>65357470
>>65357501
>>65357504
>>65357630
This fucker again. For the thousandth time, Aztecs were demon worshipping retards and they deserved worse than what happened to them.
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>>65364744
>t. retard worshipping a different demon
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>>65364744
>Aztecs were demon worshipping retards
Wait till you find out the body count of all the other retarded worshippers out there.
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>>65364818
>If I make an assumption I am right.
>>65365120
Athiests are responsible for the most deaths in history.
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>>65365130
>Athiests are responsible for the most deaths in history.
Sure, sure.
And the earth is only 6,000 years old, dinosaurs are fake, and jesus will return if everyone just gives all their money to Israel, right?
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>>65364703
It was not good enough for the war, it did not work as camouflage at all and France racked up Soviet-WWII-level casualties
French were fucking retarded, there was like a month where they stopped issuing helmets because people were getting more head injuries
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>>65355964
I think we need to distinguish between a good look and a good look after battle. These fuckers were mostly sleeping in the mud prior to Waterloo, so I can't imagine them looking anything other than shit.
I guess it's one of those things that's largely lost to history. We get the leftovers, the artwork and the descriptions of these guys looking their best. Nobody was going out of their way to jot down what they looked like after a day of work
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>>65357501
Why did you save a piece of artwork depicting fuckable trannies for your 4chan history lesson?
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>>65365232
>Why did you save a piece of artwork depicting fuckable trannies for your 4chan history lesson?
Sometimes you hear a question that answers itself and wonder why it was even asked.
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>>65358269
This man had chronic flatulence
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>>65357630
>>65357517
>>65361719
>>65359784
Cont:

>>65363948
Right?

It's so mind boggling to think that you had armies full of soldiers wearing the same thing on the outside of their armor/uniforms, shields, and helmets. It'd be like knights going to battle where the outside of their plate armor had insanely high detail stained glass covering the whole thing

>>65364744
Let's pretend for a second that you're correct.

What does that have to do with anything I posted? Are you actually disputing any of the information I provided? If so, please specify what you're claiming is incorrect, and I'll provide sources, citations or other evidence to proof what I said was accurate.

Or are you just whining and complaining about their morality even though it's irrelevant to what we're all talking about in the thread?

But also, let's evaluate what you said. What did they do that you think is so bad they did that makes them "deserve worse then what they got" or makes them "retards"? Sacrifices? Their political system? Lack of specific intellectual achievements? Be specific so I can respond in depth.

>>65365232
>>65365237
Not sure what you mean, honestly? I guess the warrior priest in the red warsuit on the middle right and especially the warrior priest in the black night-sky warsuit with the conical copilli helmet on the bottom left look somewhat feminine, but the ponytail is accurate, see pic which shows the Codex Mendoza's sample warrior priest rank progression pathway Mossa based both on.

8/8 for now, I had a lot of posts in the thread I didn't count in the post total before
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>>65354180
imagine getting your village razed to the ground and all your women raped by these niggas and the whole time they're wearing those fuckass outfits
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>>65365370
>Not sure what you mean
This is some anime, I want to do something historical but I've got to put some femboy twink shit in there for views + muh dick sort of artwork
I don't trust it
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>>65365244
>This man had chronic flatulence
That's what's blowing up the cape there.
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>>65365425
>This is some anime
If you weren't a newfag, you'd recognise the artist's style immediately.
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>>65358249
ah yes, the "i just soiled myself" trousers
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>>65365425
>not knowing mossa
shiggy diggy newfriend
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>>65359439

POV when you are an uppity buck and the buck breaking specialist massa hired just arrived.
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>>65366647
You mean jodhpurs? Everyone remembers that the nazis wore them, but pretty much every military wore those funny pants. They were just what you wore when you rode a horse and the world was still in the process of evolving away from horses in the military. A lot of the senior officer corp around the world doubtlessly just had horse riding in their blood still.
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>>65370121
>They were just what you wore when you rode a horse and the world was still in the process of evolving away from horses in the military. A lot of the senior officer corp around the world doubtlessly just had horse riding in their blood still
Given the state of Nazi logistics, riding a horse was probably something that could conceivably happen if they had a bit of car trouble or encountered too much mud.
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>>65371204
They did use horses for logistics, but I'm pretty sure they used trains more than anything else.
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>>65355927
Zuave will always be suave.
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>>65364283
>they look like a villain in an old movie
Why do you think that might be, anon?
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>>65374184
This. That's the point I was making to begin with. For many in america, their whole idea of what a villain looks like was largely influenced by the nazis.



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