>>65365651
africans

>>65365651
Why is there a finger in the Red Sea? Is it giving directions on where to hold up shipping?

>>65365651
The Arabs, no question.
You can at least get all the Russians moving in the same direction by threatening to shoot them. They also have some actual military victories. Yes, they have won a few conflicts.

Now, in recent history, Israel is running at 8-0-0. That's eight wins against the Arab world, zero ties, and zero losses. A few of those times had Russia on the side of the Arabs.
So even with help, the Arabs can't win a fight. They can only wait in caves until their enemy leaves out of boredom.

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>>65365651
>sneak attack Arabs
>"wow they suck"
I'm not going to defend Arab incompetence of the time, but I'm not going to defend that either. Also not going to defend the blatant incompetence and the shitshow that is going on right now. Look what Hamas traded for Israel's complete and utter shunning and isolation. Who won? This is cooking up to be the most immense Arab strategic victory ever.

>>65365651
Stupid picture to use, Israel lost all of the grey parts to the Arabs

Might as well ask if the Vietnamese are bad at warfare

>>65365959
>lost
I think you mean gave back out of literal good will.
>unironically comparing gayrabs to the vietcong
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>65365959
Lose? They returned the whole-ass Sinai voluntarily to keep the Egyptians off their back. Really puts one in the eye of that stupid 'Greater Israel' theory.

>>65365953
>If they kill us, we win!
HAMAS is BTFO. Hezbollah is shaping up to be BTFO by the Lebanese army. Israel isn't being hurt by any bleeding heart terrorist sympathizers, they're just annoyed by the noise. Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, and Egypt don't want any part of a conflict with Israel.
Israel is closer to a comprehensive peace than at any time in their history.

>>65365651
homosexual stuff
>russian pimp you out , rape you saying its not gay, prison stuff
>arabs say man love and its not really gay due to etc etc
>russians dont care if you die theyre a big mafia
>arabs are muslim brothers who hate other sects

i guess russia at least with arabs. african muslims is a whole other ball park.

>>65365651
Russians, Arabs are handicapped by tribalism, stupidity, and Russian weapons systems but when you put enough of them together they get a WAAAAAGlahu Akbar buff and can overrun tech heavy positions because of more dakka. Russians just suck at everything that’s not well poisoning and perfidZ.

>>65366070
Delusional

>>65366092
cope

>>65366142
I don't have to cope about anything. even your retarded fucking yid ass understands the Lebanese won't do fuck all about Hezbollah, and every country in the West will still hate you.

>>65366148
that's cool. hezbollah is still on the back foot either way.

>>65366158
Well you've been fighting them for almost 3 fucking years I'd hope they'd be on the back foot. Russia tier delusions, domestic politics in Israel must be fucking retarded right now.

>>65366162
(NTA) What does that have to do with anything? The point was that it doesn't matter if Lebanon doesn't do anything about Hezbollah because Hezbollah is dead meat either way.

>>65365953
Hoky cope

>>65366168
You just fucking said the Lebanese Army is "shaping up to BTFO" now you're saying it doesn't matter if they do or not because they're dead anyway, so which is it? Heard all this fucking shit before. Since the 80s all the same yapping but what have you actually done? NOTHING. AGAIN!

>>65366176
You'd better watch out anon, they might raise a flag or something.

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>>65366183
YAP YAP YAP YAP
YAP YAP YAP YAP YAP YAP
YAP YAP

>>65366185
>jews sure learned from the evils of national socialism
>N-NO NOT LIKE THAT!

>>65366070
Post foreskin

>>65366185
Random fun fact of the week: CNN has just been acquired by an extremely pro-IDF billionaire.

>>65366466
You first.

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Easy pick: AIPACans, who lost to both.

I wish it was possible to have a real conversation about warfare and strategy/tactics including the geopolitical element without childish screeching. I can literally have a better conversation about this with ChatGPT and even with all the sycophantic dick sucking that it's programed to do I learn more and I can explore alternative points of view more effectively

>>65366800
>commondream
>donate
lmao

>>65366800
Korean war?

>>65365953
>This is cooking up to be the most immense Arab strategic victory ever.
Grim

>>65366834
He's not really wrong though, America got stuck in this WW2 Heroes vs Evil, The Final Conflict(tm) recency bias fallacy and we've been chasing the dragon for the last 75 years, it's time we accepted that most wars don't work like that. I mean we kind of "accepted" it in the most retarded way possible by saying oh maybe the nazis weren't so bad after all but I mean like accept it in a logical and morally sound way. Which is to say look at warfare as a tool in a larger portfolio of coercion tactics, to be used with reservations when there's no reasonable alternative. Instead we go into these things thinking it's a corny hollywood film and we're surprised every single time when the enemy's idea of win/lose doesn't perfectly align with the cartoon narrative where the bad guys shoot red bullets and the good guys shoot blue bullets and there's a clean surrender ceremony on the deck of a battleship at the end and the bad guys renounce evil and embrace hentai

>>65366845

>renounce evil and embrace hentai

Lmao

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>>65366466

>>65366470
They won't even have to change their talking suits and infobabe lineup. Bunch of turbo zionists 24/7 on that screen.

>>65366800
Iran is losing though, the US is casually bombing the fuck out of them virtually unopposed.

>>65366845
Why are you speaking in third person, Ackmad?

>>65368894
>>65368897
heated zio-slug on cooldown

>>65368908
Cry more that the chuds are making fun of you for having a day-long spergout.

>>65365651
Jews

The Jew is literally a mongrel of an Arab and Russian.

>>65368937
however, individually, Russian are the only member of BRICS with history of defeating the most powerful Western nations in both open Total War and Proxy Wars.

The Arabs are on track to be the ones to end not just the GOAT nation (USA) but Western Europe as well. Houthies (and Iranians) just handed the USN their first real defeat, and its the USN, not army or airforce, that the USA has the supposedly biggest advantage.

Only time the Jews met a non-turd world "target", can't really call it an "enemy", the USS Liberty, one USN sailor brought one M2 into action and the Jews panicked and attack by 4 supersonic fighters, 4 jet bombers and 3 torpedo boats was defeated.

>>65368937
>>65368951
Post your hand again, that was funny. >>65367314
This is you, right? Making those same posts all day?

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>>65368951
>Houthies (and Iranians) just handed the USN their first real defeat
May we see it?

>>65368951
How brown do you have to be to equate getting tired of smashing someone's face in so you walk away to fuck bitches with defeat?
It's Iranians who are dying in their homes, not Americans. Deciding to stop killing Iranians isn't an Iranian victory because we Americans still aren't dying in our homes.

>>65369004
He has legitimately been spamming every single thread that even remotely somehow touches on Iran with paragraphs of text responding to himself like this, all day. He also posted his hand in the middle of one of those spergouts and he is actually verifiably brown, Pakistani levels of brown.

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>>65368951
Russia got disassembled by the US because it got tricked into a tech race it couldn't win, and is currently losing to Ukraine. Some aggressive deportations and cutting the fat out of the government budget and the USA will literally be a space empire. Iran will be rubble.

>>65369004
One thing to note is that even when the US goes home, this leaves Iran surrounded by neighbors who they terror bombed. Surrounded with no military, no navy, no air force. With Israel somehow on the same side as every other Arab state in the region. The US is understandably leery about maintaining a permanent conquest-style presence in countries half the world away, but for Iran's neighbors just taking them over and making doing a bit of quiet ethnic cleansing is not off the table. Iran has a time limit to its existence, especially if the US does the smart thing and feeds targeting data on routes transporting goods into and out of Iran to drone operators to stop them from rebuilding. The Saudis can afford to buy drones and hire Ukrainians to teach them. Fucking with the oil money is a mistake that could very well end Iran as a state and only deluded third-worlders think otherwise.

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>>65368996
>May we see it?
certainly

End of Petro Dollar will force Congress to SUDDENLY choose between The Jews and American People, likely sparking a hot 2nd Civil War but it wont be region vs region but "class vs class" across entire USA at once.

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>>65369063
>End of Petro Dollar

>petro dollar discourse in 2026\
if you really wanted to end the USA you would support them and encourage them to go to war and engage in a deeper conflict

>hot 2nd Civil War but it wont be region vs region but "class vs class" across entire USA at once.
it will be a race war and the people that choose "class" over race will be killed by the opposite race

>>65368951
ziggers got btfo in Africa and ukraine

>>65369081
based violent and low inhib Latinx, the way to live. raping, being a criminal, and then dying in a shootout at 24 is high test and warrior like desu

>>65369072
>>hot 2nd Civil War but it wont be region vs region but "class vs class" across entire USA at once.
>it will be a race war and the people that choose "class" over race will be killed by the opposite race
I'm not so sure, but I've got no idea WTF will happen. Could be "Govt employees and MIC and families VS everyone.
Could be SSI/Medicare/welfare VS everyone.
Could be "real" physical workers over desk jockeys.
Recently Mexicans have been forced into every small town in USA and they are all Cartel sleeper cells, and have infested entire US Govt from Sec of State Little Marco down to school janitor.

>ziggers got btfo in Africa and ukraine
Russians getting "blown out" isn't what it is to other groups.
The fact they are in formerly Euro-colonized Africa at all is a major victory in big pic.
Similar with Putin playing rope-a-dope with NATO in Ukraine. That makes Russia the undisputed charismatic leader of BRICS, because without Russia the other members know they'd be only waiting to be re-colonized. If the war ends, even in total Russian victory and fully annexes Ukraine, Russia goes back to "gas station with nukes" and "Nigeria with snow".

>>65369063
I'm seeing an AI article about the petrodollar from before the US found fucktonnes of oil, not an Iranian military victory. Do you remember what the battle was called, perchance?

>>65366800
What counts as a "real war"?
>any war America loses
What doesn't count as a "real war"?
Any war that America wins

>>65369081
Post hand.

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>>65369121
>Govt employees and MIC and families VS everyone
it will be everyone and self hating Whites vs Whites, similar to BLM in 2020 but actually serious

> Similar with Putin playing rope-a-dope with NATO in Ukraine. That makes Russia the undisputed charismatic leader of BRICS
ziggers lost in Ukraine and get btfo by africans on trucks, stop coping. Also brics means nothing and was created by an American

>>65369121
I can tell you're a thirdie going off memes you read on /pol/ because the thing about whites and every form of hispanic is that they intermarry. No white boy can resist a latina and every form of hispanic wants to be white.
>The fact they are in formerly Euro-colonized Africa at all is a major victory in big pic.
>Putin playing rope-a-dope with NATO in Ukraine.
100% brown zigger.

>>65369090
I think it was this one but I remember she got multiple shotgun blasts to the back in addition.

Her brother was at my site, and I was in process of getting my own shotgun "out of jail" at Fremont BigFive where he'd also bought his. Not sure what model he'd bought. Clerks were cool about it all, me being a respectable White man and all. Mosins were $89 so you'd always add one or two to a DROS, to stretch the $25 fee.

In September 2009, a 17-year-old girl was fatally shot and her 17-year-old ex-boyfriend critically wounded in Fremont, California, in an apparent murder-suicide stemming from a broken relationship.Incident DetailsDate: Friday, September 11, 2009Location: Millard Avenue in the Sundale neighborhood of FremontEvent: Police responding to reports of shots fired found the 17-year-old girl dead from a gunshot wound to the head just after 7:00 p.m. Her 17-year-old ex-boyfriend was found nearby with a severe, self-inflicted gunshot wound and was transported to the hospital in grave condition.

>>65369167
>In September 2009, a 17-year-old girl was fatally shot and her 17-year-old ex-boyfriend critically wounded in Fremont, California, in an apparent murder-suicide stemming from a broken relationship.Incident DetailsDate: Friday, September 11, 2009Location: Millard Avenue in the Sundale neighborhood of FremontEvent: Police responding to reports of shots fired found the 17-year-old girl dead from a gunshot wound to the head just after 7:00 p.m. Her 17-year-old ex-boyfriend was found nearby with a severe, self-inflicted gunshot wound and was transported to the hospital in grave condition.
absolute Lion

>>65369167
kek, brownoid forgot to remove the details from where he looked up a shooting.

>>65369170
>cuck shoots his ex and then himself
Pussy behavior but I get that you're replying to yourself because everyone else is making fun of you, brownoid.

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>>65369174
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>>65369125
"we need to win" translates to "so far we've lost and are losing, obviously and badly"

byline of "editorial STAFF" means none of The Jews at the NYP wants this hung around their neck, because it wont age well and they know it.

>>65369188
>translates to
So it doesn't say it. In fact it seems to be a reiteration of the same policy that has been in place since the beginning. You are quite literally drawing an argument based on tone from not just tone that isn't present, but words that aren't there, followed with a second argument on tone based again on words that aren't there. Glad you dropped the "HELLO FELLOW KIDS" act, I don't think you were convincing anyone that you're a White American who owns a gun.

>>65369180
Wow a thirdie with a laptop and a phone? You must be the local shaman's nephew.

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>>65365651
>Who's worse at warfare: Russians or Arabs?
Muricans!

>>65366842
what has israel won exactly?

>>65369206
https://nypost.com/2026/07/13/opinion/time-to-win-the-battle-of-hormuz-and-enforce-freedom-of-navigation/

pool remains closed.

in other news, Taliban remains in power in Afghanistan, and the Western USA remains under nominal American control, not Mexican, since about 1848.

Meanwhile, Petro-Dollar's end continues to creep closer.

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>>65369216
>Achmad

>>65369219
Nothing in there says anything to support your claim. Meanwhile the pool is closed to Iranian oil and open to US warships, the Taliban is a US proxy now, the US exports oil instead of importing it in 2026, and you lost tranny.

>>65365953
>sneak attack
Given the strategic situation at the time, getting caught with your pants down is itself a massive failure and sign of lower competence IMO. You'd have to be a real idiot to be a leader in the 1960s ME and *not* be preparing for a conflict that could flare up at any time.

>>65366062
>Really puts one in the eye of that stupid 'Greater Israel' theory
I don't believe there's any coherent and organized grand conspiracy for a 'Greater Israel', but I do think it's foolish to assume that 1970s Israeli diplomacy still represents 2020s Israel. The average Israeli politician has quite literally gotten dumber and chuddier since then, a new generation comes with their new ideas and it's quite possible that future Israel will be governed by increasingly retarded gaggles of lunatics

>>65366800
This person fundamentally misunderstands how the US Empire works if he thinks these "real wars" were meant to be won decisively as opposed to just being regular maintenance to uphold the existing system which already benefits the USA.

>>65369218
They seem to be on the path to peace, which is all Israel wants.
Gazans might need another lesson to get it through their skulls that Israel is serious. Hezbollah might need another lesson. But this campaign of bulldozing villages to make there be a cost to harboring terrorists is going to make terrorists awfully unpopular.

>>65369231
"AI Overview Yes, China is still able to get oil from Iran, though purchases have dropped by about 40% due to tighter U.S. sanctions on Chinese independent "teapot" refiners and disruptions in the Persian Gulf."

Translation: USN and Trump Admin is chicken to force a show down and fuck with Chinese ships.

Part of the reason for the (not really) "40% drop" is two fold:

1) Lots of ships still can't get INSURANCE and their crews are balking, because they don't know WTF might happen, so sounds like a nice time to take an extended vacation.

2) China is quietly aiding the Iranians kill the Petro Dollar, and they aren't exactly alone in that.

Besides protecting the Petro Dollar, what real purpose does the USN even have?

PS-Its failing spectacularly in that mission. Saudis are trying to get around the Iranian blockage and pump oil overland to Red Sea, and hopefully then to China, India, Japan etc but now the Houthies are AGAIN defeating USN efforts to keep that straight open.

I'd guess if they need to they will also block the Suez, similar to (no fucks) Evergiven, but this time for real.

>>65369286
Sure thing there General

>>65368951
When Russia "defeated" the US via proxy in Vietnam, the US went on to become the richest and most powerful nation in the world
When the US defeated Russia via proxy in Afghanistan, the Soviet union collapsed

>>65369293
>we didn't want to win anyway...

>>65369341
To be fair, they were also dumping 80% of their GDP into trying to cover up the extent of the world's largest ever nuclear disaster when they collapsed.

>>65369341
I didn't say Russia has never lost, just they'd taken on and soundly defeated several of the most powerful Western nations, on occasion, unlike the rest of BRICS.

>>65365651
Arabs and by a decent margin.

>>65365953
To be fair, when arabs did the sneak attacking they sucked just as much.
Look up the yom kippur war, its a fun read.

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>>65366800
>gets invaded
>folds in under 2 months
Cope ahmed.

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>>65369379
Sarrrrrr who edited the wikipedia BENCHOD

>>65369374
and I'm just saying that your definitions of victory and defeat might be a little bit twisted

>>65368894
Well, Trump managed to pick the one and only win condition that Iran could contest.
No matter how crippled the Iranian military is, they will always be able to sneak a drone close enough to the coast to threaten shipping in the strait.
And they absolutely will launch those drones out of the coastal cities and then cry about warcrimes when the US strikes back.

The only winning moves for the US were either not to play at all, hunt down the Iranian shadow fleet on the high seas and hope Iran doesn't go full chimp or to go all in with a ground invasion and put an end to the IRGC once and for all.

>>65365651
Russians are just white(ish) arabs

>>65366845
Ww2 is even more ridiculous. It has been turned into an angles vs. devils tier world creation mythos bullshit. While they themselves were allied with fucking communists and stalin who were just as bad and in some cases even worse then the national socialists and angry mustache man

>>65369533
Russians are white niggers.
And niggers are actually more competent than arabs, see >>65368109

>>65369297
it took 6 years for the arab nations to rearm for the yom kippur war. all im saying is, maybe the "mad dog" strategy isn't the best in an era of military parity

>>65366062
See that's the difference :
- The West wins through sheer technological and logistical superiority.
- Israel win through well-planned surprise attacks, even if funded by the West
- Arabs win by nagging you until you are so annoyed you decide to leave the sand to them... then they go back to killing each other.

>>65368894
>the US is casually bombing the fuck out of them virtually unopposed
I mean that's the whole issue :
If we don't have clear war goals to measure, we can hardly decide if it was a victory or not.
If the enemy's only war goal is "survive", he can claim victory just by not having lost all his sons and daughters.

There were a few doubts before all this as to how easy it would be for US aircrafts to penetrate Iran's air defense.

We got no illusion about it now :
Arab "allies" destroyed more US planes than Iran did... and that's factoring Iran destroying US planes sitting on the ground.

What it proves is that US can destroy pretty much anything it wants in Iran.
If that is the victory goal, then US won.
If it's not, then being able to fly above Iran isn't so much a victory as it is a feat.

>>65369726
>pretty much anything it wants in Iran
umm.. missile bunker status??

>>65369063
You got a problem with the tenses, my semitic friend.
While oil not being overwhelmingly paid in US dollars would be a problem, it is still the situation as of today.
An estimated 80% of international oil transactions in 2026 have been paid in US dollars so far.

It's hard to say that the Houtis already defeated the USN when the conditions you personally set as proof for such a defeat haven't materialized yet.

Best I can see is the Houtis "won" by virtue of not having been annihilated while failing to hit back.
It's like saying a bad boxer didn't land a single hit yet defeated its opponent simply because the latter broke its skull but failed to kill him.

>>65365651
Unironically Arabs. They are the absolute bottom tier. Not even the Russians can compete in their weight category of failure. It takes an Arab to outdo an Arab in how bad they are at war.

>>65369731
>missile bunker status??
A few of them got busted.
Problem, if we are being honest, is that there's a difference between being able to bomb something and knowing where that something is.

If something is located, the US can destroy it.
And so does Israel, it seems.
But that doesn't mean the US or Israel know of every small weapon cache Iran had, has or will have.
Destroying these might not even be the goal precisely because it would be an endless game of whack-a-mole, which could be made pointless by hitting other targets.

>>65369072
I don't understand the picture you posted, it is a noble and human duty to hate the pajeet and every other race on Earth can and should do their part.

>>65369760
>doesn't mean the US or Israel know of every small weapon cache Iran had
Thats why US will never win, even a little weapon cache can deal damage multiple amount of its cost.

>>65369792
One solution is to not got after where the weapons are but after where they come from.
Especially since we are talking ammunition and not plateforms.
If Iranians cannot produce missiles at scale because they lack the industry to do so, there's a moment where they go from regional threat to local annoyance.

Now, that might not even be the win the US or Israel are after.
But if that's among your conditions for an american win, can you argue that the US could not casually air strike all powerplants, refineries and factories in Iran if they so wished ?

If they can, it proves that they indeed "can destroy pretty much anything they wants in Iran".
If they cannot, then yeah sure, Iran is a fortress that defeated the might the US and can keep lobbing missiles at whoever they want for all eternity.

>>65369928
>casually air strike all ...
Yet the fact so far, they didn't do it. There is no reason they wont do it, so that is only mean they can't do it.

>>65369952
>There is no reason they wont do it, so that is only mean they can't do it.
There are dozens of reason, main among all being that it might achieve nothing for the war goals, whatever they are.

If we are having an argument and I can slap your icecream cone, that doesn't mean I'll do it.
Because I'm not a cartoon villain, first.
But also because that might not do much to resolve the argument while potentially even worsening the situation.

It might just be as simple as not being worth it :
Missiles, bombs, fuel and airframe maintenance ain't cheap.

The US showed they could fly above Iran and hit targets accurately while suffering close to no losses beyond the occasional idiocy.
So Iranians know the yanks can do it and there's nothing the Iranians can do about it except hidding, praying for an american error or retaliating against arabs and jews as if it did anything.

The US tried to bomb Iranians into submission and it didn't do much to go anywhere diplomatically.
At most, it depleted the immediat threat of Iran : they've been throwing less shit around lately.
But nobody wants so far to go and invade Iran.
Especially because doing so and not being willing to put all males to the sword would mean the enterprise is doomed.
25 years of dealing with arabs and pachtouns does teach you that.

The USA won't throw shit at Iran if they don't see the need.
And the need can only be there if what will be achieve contribute the the goal.
Since the goal isn't to wipe Iran from the face of the Earth, there's no point at emptying ammunition stockpile on every muslim mudhut.

>>65365720
Fair point but after South Africa became majority governed it's just nigger tribal/warlord infighting/genociding on continental scale. Ergo they can't be bad because they all suck equally.

>>65370004
>Since the goal isn't to wipe Iran from the face of the Earth, there's no point at emptying ammunition stockpile on every muslim mudhut
Not until everyone of their neighbors gets to buy cheap Ukrainian drones that is

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I think while of course arabs suck harder, the main difference between them and russians is that arabs are historically nomads in a desolate desert, and some of their nations became wealthy only recently, while russians were always in arable land (where commies can't grow food anyway) and tons of resources
So if the situation were to be reversed, the hypothetical russian desert orthodox military would suck in the same way as arab armies do now, maybe with fewer self-inflicted terror attacks

>>65366148
Actual westerner here, i dislike them to the point that my money is being used on them, i don’t give a shit about the retarded muslims they’re killing and have zero sympathy for them.

>>65366800
>US wins every single war militarily
>brown people say you lost because their countries still exist and you didn’t go full dirlewanger and slaughter them all
lol

>>65368951
And other fantasies you can tell yourself as a delusional third worlder.

>>65369063
>le petrodollar
Delusional foaming at the mouth thirdie award.

>>65369063
>thirdie literally confides in fucking google AIslop to assure him that le global west is le dying
What is it with retarded streetshitting thirdworlders and getting oneshot by AI? You’d think the retards constantly harping on about western decadence and le petrodollar would not enslave themselves to a slightly more charismatic autocorrect fueled by a massive corpo bubble.

>>65369121
BRICS doesn’t actually exist, thirdie-san, sorry to break it to you, none of the members have any actual agreements with eachother and some of them are actively trying to kill eachother. BRICS is a coping mechanism for thirdies that want a global south “alternative” to NATO.

>>65366070
>If they kill us, we win
Unironically how this war is shaping up for the arabs

>>65369216
Reminder that this poster keeps spamming this image when he was caught as one of the editors who desperately tried to astroturf this wikipage.
This poster’s name is literally fucking Achmad LMAO. How embarrassing.

>>65369228
>mazur
>achmad
>chrisahn
>pachu
No wonder brownoids keep spamming that wiki page LMAO, it’s the only place where they’re still capable of winning.

>>65369318
>retarded brownoid keeps spamming AIslop
You lost sweetheart, you also don’t belong on this website, now go back to your mudhut.

>>65369374
Their victory in WW2 is solely the result of them getting carried by US and UK economic and materiel support + allied strategic bombing campaigns.

>>65370317
Maybe we should start.

>>65368894
Those American bases in the GCC countries would beg to differ

>>65370313
>Actual westerner here
Define

>>65369442
>go all in with a ground invasion and put an end to the IRGC once and for all.
I'm not sure how another Vietnam will end the IRGC

>>65370340
Name a perfumed shampoo that the Israelis can't buy to use in their hot, potable water showers because Western bleeding heart libruls are crying "genocide" and cutting themselves over Israel killing avowed genocidal murderers.
If the Israelis aren't denied even the smallest luxury while the Gazans are living in tents and wading in human shit, how is that a victory for the side wading in human shit?

>>65369286
Sinai is useless desert that's why Israel gave it back for fuck sake.
There's a reason they also got stuck pushing into Egypt itself.

>>65365953
The palis had a birtharte of 3.4 prior to Hamas starting shit on Oct 7. You are correct that Mudslimes being incompetent retards does not mean Kikes are competent. I'm just glad that they both effectively lost and they haven't flooded Europe this time since nobody wants to take them at all and they can't make it through the neighboring territories.

>>65369286
But Egypt was prepared. They were mobilizing in a defensive position against Israel, both US and Israeli officials at the time both came to the same conclusion: the Egyptian military was taking up defensive positions and were not poised to attack at all. And they were preparing for Israel to start shit, Israel had just started shit 9 years prior with the UK and France.

>>65372021
They got it back because Israel took it and used it as blackmail.

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>>65366439
Holohoax didn't real but I wish it had because there would be fewere jews to waste my tax money on their monkey shines.

>>65370317
This is why the jews need to be defrauded of all personal property and be exiled on pain of death, or just shot in the street if you want my opinion. If America was the ebil genocidal racist empire they say it was we'd have won every conflict in three months and have an extra 10 states filled with white colonists by now. If you're gonna do the time might as well do the "crime".

>>65370317
Correct. Muslims want to genocide you and believe (correctly) that because you failed to genocide them, they won. (They’re right)

>>65372055
>They got it back because Israel took it and used it as blackmail.
They got it back because they enjoy there being hundreds of miles of mostly empty useless desert between Egypt and Israel that they don't have to manage or defend.

>>65372133
What they would enjoy using it for isn't the reason they got it back, they got it back by being blackmailed into the sacred normalization process where you recognize Israel as a state and start getting flooded with goybux. It's a very strange phenomenon.

>>65372077
They’re not, you’re retarded lmao.

>>65372062
>>65372077
Oh it’s the subhuman skaven retard again lmao.

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>>65372340
>062 (You)
>>>65372077
This might sound crazy but more than one guy can hold opinions you don't like. Also he's wrong that mudslimes win, except in the broadest sense that they continue to survive at the sufferance of whites and only so long as modern liberal society shields them from actual military action by genocidal racists.

Here's a challenge: tell me without resorting to morals based in either emotionalism or supernaturalism why whites shouldn't countermand the interests of jews and muslims up to the point of genocidal extermination. Note I'm not saying supernatural forces don't exist, I'm saying you cannot appeal to them because we cannot codify what if any supernatural punishment you'd receive for such actions.

You can't make an argument based on reciprocity since jews, muslims, and darkies in general not only have zero utility to our industrial society and are massive net tax burdens(jews included) but they also just don't "do" reciprocity outside their ethnic bloc in general. You cannot argue against slaughtering them based on their ability to defend themselves because they can't do that now while being handled comparatively gingerly. And it would be profitable to kill them and seize all their property/territory. So what exactly is the problem other than "you're a big meanie if you leverage your massive physical advantages to win"?

>>65365651
Russians usually win in the end

>>65365953
>Telegraph very clearly that you are going for TKD
>"What the fuck they attacked us first"

>>65373584
No, they’ve lost more wars than they’ve won lol.

>>65365979
>>65366062
>it was gesture of goodwill!
You are on the same level as ziggers

>>65374273
That is literally what it was. Peace with Egypt was worth more than holding the Sinai.

>>65374273
>quoting what literally happened in the real world
Seriously what is it with you brownoids and trying to create alternate realities?
Yes, it was literally a gesture of goodwill, the sinai peninsula was completely occupied and egypt was never getting it back if not for israel handing it of their own volition.
Do you get angry and teary-eyed every time you open a history book?

>>65373584
Two more weeks?

>>65365651
Russians, the egyptians were actually competent and leaving gaza and west bank as enclaves instead of being part of jordan & egypt as it was before was also a desired strategy to put international pressure to israel that works to this day so they also been relatively good at geopolitics.

The syrians & jordanians others were extremely incompetent but the egyptians were more competent than history would make you believe they fucked it up terribly in the six days war but that was mostly because the retard nasser baited the israelis he tough jews were too much pussies to actually go in the offensive first and he destroyed his entire army being an incompetent moron.

But in the 1973 war the egyptians proved to be way more competent than history make it seems and i say this as a pro israel anon, official story in the west is that israel got caught off guard but then in a counter offensive won.

That may be mostly true but there are small details history rarely points like israel army and air force having planned automatic counter attacks in case of war all which were done and failed due to the egyptians baiting them into anti air & anti armor defense lines to the point that if that crap continued for 4 days more an arab victory would have been possible simply due to attrition.

Also the israelis did won by encircling masterfully the egyptian army but then again what would have happened if egypt did not accepted a ceasefire?killing 1/3 of the egyptian army from thirst in the desert would have been a hard blow for egypt but israeli troops on the other side of the canal controlled mostly the desert they failed to take cities like suez and frankly it was not that good of an idea.

>>65374508
Also after the israeli air force was not failing for bait they could have in theory counter attacked or even try to destroy egypt dams but you are still talking about a tiny israel vs massive overpopulated egypt, getting into an attrition war like russia got in ukraine is a geopolitical failure it was bad for both egypt and israel but specially for israel.

Also the egyptians after lossing naval victories and the soviet air force gettign rekt by the israeli air force realized soviet tech was not that advanced, frankly with the apollo program the idea of the soviets being more advanced was already fadding by the 70s but that must have been a heavy blow for egypt also the bretton woods gold standard had just fallen two years ago in the west as such globalization was taking off due to fiat usd increasing international trade as usa started to deindustrialize.

The blow to israel was strong enough to spook usa and gave egypt a chance to swtich from soviet sphere to the american sphere, the fact that israel best pact to at least stabilize the front for an attrition war meant killing of the encircled egyptian army of starvation would have made egypt a permanent enemy for at least a century as it would have been an humiliating blow for egypt so best course for israel was also peace.

That said the egyptians masterfully told them to fuck off and did not took gaza again, which was again a masterfully geopolitical move because now israel had to deal with the palestinean trouble rather than focusing south.

Point being arabs at least the egyptians had the iq to play geopolitics and move the conditions in their favour.

The shit russia has done for the last years make zero sense it's just sunk cost fallacy.

>>65374539
Ironically if Israel isn't so trigger happy in bombing the palestinians they wouldn't be in this position

>>65374909
yes, a country suffers a massacre should turn the other cheek.

>>65374909
Israel was not trigger happy at all between the mid 70s-2023 quite the opposite after they made peace with egypt they started to reduce their national socialist miltaristic state (they had like 50% of the gdp being defense spending in the early 70s) this is why they became the eighth country to reach orbit they had such military spending that they had fighter jets and some tech on first world superpower levels.

Their current defense industry is just the remnants of that era project upgraded again and again.

Once israel started to "demilitarize" (relative to 70s levels) they started to try to also get economic benefits of being a us sphere vassal by larping themselves as a first world stable country (the meme of a beacon of light in the dark age middle east) there is part truth in that and it helped them get a ton of soviet jews and non jews with good education move there not to mention western jews.

But trigger happy?Not at all quite the opposite big military operations became a taboo in israel society hence the israel lebanon war 2006 being a fuck up and why most israel enemies believed their "mea vietnam" of baiting them into urban areas was going to work in 2023.

In fact it's quite impressive how little trigger happy israel was for much smaller things than the second intifada (paid by the soviets) the usa got spooked into supporting genocidial governments in latin america,

If the second intifada happened in 2005 france instead of in israel the french would have had concentration camps by 2007.

>>65374909
>>65375166
The current "trigger happy" israel is a consequence of two things 1_The palestineans putting someone that got part of his brain removed at an israeli prison as their leader.

Stupid retard tough it would work, previous 3 conflicts between hamas palis in gaza and israel were stopped by only one thing and that is european pressure on israel.

Having a part of his brain removed mean the guy could not think well he tried to push the same shit they did during the 2010s in 2023 with more force but the geopolitical equation happened, not only europe could not let a military superpower like israel be isolated as they could have turned to the vatniks (or lobbied in the usa against europe), germany also wanted to military faster and thus protected israel from france, also the eu had been sponsoring state paid gore videos all the humanitarian crap was no longer going to calm israelis down, from the same ones paying for state gore.

2_the iranians using the soleimani fabian strategy as an offensive one when it was actually one to keep trouble outside of iran by keeping proxy armies all over the place (once these armies were put to act after 2023 their fear factor was no longer part of the equation which ended with the frontline in iran as it's now).

These two things mean gaza and southern lebanon wars have been fought in a pre 1945 way (flatlining the entire area before moving on), iran war tough is still being played in a world order kind of way but not for long, the usa or israel could raze kharg island if they wanted not sure what game both are playing with iran behind the scenes.

>>65365651
Israelis have exhibited more incompetence than even the worse Arab army. Imagine having the unlimited support of a super power and constantly losing over and over in every battlefield you fight on.

>>65375182
>my genocidal mentality is all your fault for not rolling over and dying on command
Are you people incapable of literally the slightest bit of introspection?

>>65365720
we're talking about humans, not fauna

>>65365953
>begin an amazingly obvious preparation to attack a neighboring country
>they notice and push your shit in
>wtf thats a sneak attack bro you cant do that
Get a dictionary nigger.