Teenage Queen EditionPost your controversial surp opinions.Recent News: CMP will be selling surplus M14s at the end of the year.Previous Thread: >>65315541
>>65396114First for FTR
Any parts kits I should get while the getting is good?
>>65396114I hope AWBs are abolished by the time these come on the market or I am going to be depressed about missing out on a legit M14.
I have nowhere else to post this but:I love the Savage 99, bros
>>65396114I want one
Any news on the CMP M-14s?
>>65397112I saw a semi credible rumor that they would be $4k
>>65397155>$4k>for a clapped out M14>when a brand new M1A is half that Bruh.
>>65397155That would be very silly since you can get a good clone for the same price and the whole point of the CMP is subsidizing marksmanship. I don't beleive it.
>>65397197Muh provenance
Someone explain the throat/muzzle gauge thing boomers use. Is it actually a useful way of checking a barrel?
>>65397233Are you talking about headspace gauges?
>>65397235No. The CMP boomer measurements they do with "the throat scores a 1.5 and the muzzle has a 1.0".
>>65397155You can get a kit M14 with a new barrel and reciever for less than half that so I doubt it. I'm thinking $1500 for a Rack grade and $2000 for a Service.>>65396352They have the entire remaining US inventory of M14s to chew through so they should hopefully last a while. I wonder if they'll sell a version with no mag and flash hider for us cuck state residents.
>>65396157Anything with a barrel pretty much. Stack the kits and get the receivers or repair sections when you can. Get a welder whenever can and learn that. Get a 3d printer and learn making some files using auto fusion. By the time somebody has receivers or making blanks for some of the stuff, you'll be able to weld or 3d print repair pieces or jigs.
>>65397329And get the repair sections as soon as can for odd ball pieces. They're usually limited runs or they're made by old farts that might suddenly die on you and take the knowledge and skill to the grave.
>>65397297That senator said there's at least 100k of them
>>65397338Boomers are going to be stacking these deep to rust in their garages to resale at 3x, die, then have their kids take them to buy backs to be destroyed
>>65397355Stop being needlessly doomeristic, retard. Liking money is vastly more common than anti fun virtue signaling.
>>65397587Ths CMP's stated mission goal is to improve and promote marksmanship for the general public. It is not a retirement scheme for wealthy boomers. It is public utility and boomers taking advantage of it for a quick buck is fucking disgusting and calling it out is not "anti-gun", you fag.
>>65397235Its a bore rating. Like how the Swedes did on their guns. It’s something that helps them justify their gunshow prices. It may be valid it may not.
>>65397155The 4k number that keeps getting thrown around is absolutely false>idiots on forums say $4k>source?>a.i. told me>a.i. gets its info from said forum>cycle repeats
>>65397612As above so below
>>65397233Yes. The us military armorers would use throat/muzzle erosion gauges to measure how worn out a barrel was to see if it needed to be replaced or not. A brand new barrel would read 0-2, a super worn out piece of shitty sewer pipe from ethiopia would measure 10. Armorers would replace barrels around 5-6 iirc
>>65397612The original forum poster that said that is a CMP armorer. That's why I said semi credible.
>>65397646And I think he's bullshitting. "Dad works at nintendo"-tierThe CMP is maybe paying $600 for these Margins are super thin, and theyre technically a "non profit", and they want these rifles to actually sell. They sell the garands a touch over "at-cost", what makes you think they'll suddenly decide that they need to septuple their money
I need one of these so bad
>>65397197I wouldn't think they'd necessarily be clapped out. I think they're probably all late 60s-mid 70s arsenal reworks the government held on to for WW3. think of the letterkenney garands the cmp sold in the 1990s
>>65397663>Remington Model 400 Industrial Kiln GunOh yeah, I forgot they use large bore shotguns to help remove slag and build up on those.
>>65397713Imagine putting it on a 1919 tripod or something and absolutely btfoing bowling pins with 4" shell 3 oz slugs. practically an artillery piece
>>65397197>when a brand new M1A is half thatAnd ARMS refuses to make a new run of scope mounts for them even though they would print money because SA can't get their receivers to actually be in spec across the production run.At least the surplus ones were manufactured correctly.
>>65397764ARMS refuses to make mounts for them because they're practically out of business. They have no manufacturing facility anymore. Everything on their site is old stock.
>>65397772How? Every reddtor and their mother wants to make a mw2 m4 clone, or some gwot dmr clone, or a colt scar clone, or a mk12They'd make a killing selling literally anything they've ever offered, and cloners would pay big bucks for that. A fucking #40 flip sight is $600 now. I dont even want tho think about their quad rails. They could sell them new for double the old msrp and people would still buy the shit out of them. Why?
>>65397816>fucking #40 flip sight is $600 now.No fucking way. I've got two surplus ones I purchased at a show for $20 each. Where are you seeing this
>>65397830Sorry, I misremembered, only 399, a great deal
>>65397329FAL kits are likely something we won't see come back soon. All you need is a receiver and you don't have to cut or weld anything.
>>65397835I'm probably going to legit sell the ones I have now and spend the money on a 6mm arc upper.I had no idea they were worth this much, that's ridiculous.
>>65397845I'll give you a CRISP benjamin for one
>>65397816Probably age old tale of oldfart owner/machinists retiring and not being able to find/train a replacement to continue the company.
>>65397603Agreed but don’t take it to the exceptional extreme just to meme
>>65397856All that shits been CNC for decades. load stock. push button. bzzzzźz. quadrail. How hard can it be to train some trade school graduate for that?
>>65397863not every cnc is the samea espresso machine is insert coffee add water press buttona microwave isnt going to give the same results even if its still insert coffee and water push button.
>>65397845Ehh they're not really worth THAT much. Ebay is as bad or worse than gunbroker when it comes to overpriced shit. There's one on tacswap for $185. But its the "klone korreckt w/ wingless swan" so a later one might be worth $140-150 or so IMHO
>>65397859>don’t take it to the exceptional extreme just to memeHate to tell ya, but average boomers are hoarders. It's not extreme enough portrayal in my opinion. Anon left out the boomer dad was cat fished by a 40 year old Asian man posing as a 19 year old Asian girl and he just wired "her" the rest of his net worth and took out a quadruple reverse underwater mortgage to make sure his new love has enough to live on.
What did the Russians call 7.62x54mmR before they went metric after ww1
Finished lower. Working out final dimensions for a 3d printed lever to push up on the cut up ar15 trigger.After that, spruce up the 3d print file for lower with final tweaks and drop on odysee. Once I heat treat my lugs, I'm done with the semi Hotchkiss build.
Suppressors and SBR's are about to get removed from the NFA in about 7 days if the government doesn't contest it
>>65398901>>65398901CMP grease guns when?
>>65398903That will be $8,000 please
>>65398945Not him, but>implying I wouldn't pay $10,000 for a tin tube that goes bang bang bang
>>65398415Probably something like "Three Line Gun ammo". Not as if they had a bunch of different service rifles shooting 54R back then.
>>65398901>Suppressors and SBRSmall fryWake me up when >.50s are struck offThe machinegun registry will never be reopened
>>65399019>Wake me up when >.50s are struck offGod I would love this. I just want a second gen Carl Gustaf.I don't even care about launching HE I just want to send supersonic Cambells soup cans.
>>65399073I want an m79My grandfather said it was his favorite when he was in the army Even if all I ever shoot is chalk rounds
>>65399019Redefining the very definition of small arm is no joke less likely than repealing FOPA86, brudda
>>65398901>suppressorseh>SBRstell me more...
>>65398415Originally, the round was designated "Tpeхлинeйный пaтpoн oбpaзцa 1891 гoдa" – (three-line cartridge model of 1891). It then became widely known under the designation "7,62мм винтoвoчный пaтpoн" (7.62 mm rifle cartridge). >>65398988Good call
>>65396114I can't wait for the CMP M14s to come out. I'm gonna order two. >>65397297Dang I didn't realize JRAs were sub 2k. I always thought of them as being 2.5+ guns.
>>65399153>suppressors>ehNTA but have you shot with one/owned one?
>>65399226Ive shot a few never really did anything for me. Im thinking more in the greater theme of milsurp there are fewer (albeit rarer and cooler) suppressed or can easily be suppressed surps vs SBRs so thats kinda what I want to know how it effects the surp pile
>>65399276Its basically a nothingburger for surp. Suppressors have never been a bottleneck for because they can be acquired separately from the firearm and anything SBR surp is likely going to be an automatic weapon or already destroyed ages ago.what this will actually mean is that Timmy and Tyrone are now going to saw off unattended surp shotguns whenever they want
>>65399293>Timmy and Tyrone are now going to saw off unattended surp shotguns whenever they wantYou do realize they already do that with stolen firearms right? They don't care what it is. It makes no difference to them if it's registered or not.
>>65399276Yeah for surp your main thing is going to be, like, Mosin silencer repros (using front sight to attach). Maybe also some silly clamp on muzzle thread mounts, like Maxim repros. Maybe you find an FR-8 and hope for concentric threads (those are threaded and not pinned or something silly, right?). Can't really think what else would be historically correct to silence unless you build a 656 clone. On a 22, though, holy shit. I'd say down to like 10" barrels you can build a semi 22 that's pretty close to hearing safe if not hearing safe with most ammo and still have pretty complete powder burn. With subs (~1000FPS), it's silly as shit and actually hearing safe. Shot some supers (safely) past a groundhog at the range last time. Maybe he's just a deaf and jaded range groundhog but he gave me a look at the first shot and went back to muching grass while I lobbed 22s a couple feet above and maybe like 25ft to the side past him hitting the target 50yd past him (he was ~50yd downrange, target at 100). Supers still sound like gun shots with a 22, just as if they were, I don't know, 25-50yds further away. IDK how loud it is downrange but I figure it has to be the loudest spot given the sound echoing back.
>>65399276Adding: I just wish Maxim repros would start popping up. Seems we have three fucking Bramits! (may have a duplicate?)https://atakaindustries.com/mosin-nagant-bramit-silencer/https://usarmamentmfg.com/mosin-nagant-suppressor/https://mgarms.com/product/new-russian-bramit-suppressor-mosin-nagant-91-30-wwii-nfa-in-stock-ready-to-ship/
>>65397355Getting pretty stale by now.
>>65399451>I just wish Maxim repros would start popping up. Seems Me too.
Did they ever bring in the boxes of Italian 30-06 Bren magazines like they intended?
>>65398495Printing out hopefully the final iteration of it before dropping on odysee. Trigger pack and trigger release lever. Will get photo of hotchkiss mostly assembled this evening.
>>65400059Even if I just end up using them on old 22s, I really want some to keep some old guns period correct. I mean, look at this thing!https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/72/3709/maxim-silencer-equipped-remington-model-12-rifle-class-iiinfa
>>65400937No Anon, look at this thing:
>>65401096Oh fuck yeah. I like that scope too.
One of my dream guns has always been a 1903 with the overly long Unertl scope.
>>65401500I just like super long vintage scopes in general. My longest is ~14" with a 3/4" tube, straight tube with minimal flare out for the eyepiece. Looks sweet. I want longer though, and I've yet to get bases made to mount it properly. I have a rifle that scope would BARELY be able to be used on due to the insane gap between drilled and tapped holes for the mounts. Luckily it has internal adjustments though I'm in need of one without adjustments too.
>>65401500Unless you want a legitimate one, that isn't that unobtainable. Lots of 1903s have been drilled for repro scopes and you can get an Unertl repro with modern glass for not too much either.
>>65400858Carbon fiber print later. Will drop on odysee in like a week or so. I'm just being lazy on writing the how to.
>>65401616Next step make it out of metal
>>65401616Fuck yea bro
>>65400937>Scope longer than the barrel>Silencer>For a 22Is this a 1900s version of tricking out a $400 Glock with $2k worth of accessories or something?
>>65403257Sound suppressors are primarily illegal because people were using sound suppressed 22s to poach game animals during the depression. If you're poaching a sound suppressed 22 is the go to.
https://youtu.be/cM4Lqo82WkEInterview with CMP CEO, they got over 100k rifles and are targeting <$2k. Also getting shotguns. Somehow the US Army still has 300 1897 Winchesters they're giving to the CMP.Also fuck boomers limit of 2 rifles per buyer per year. Early 2027.
>>65404617ImagineOne of 300 CMP Trench gun $86,000, I know what I got on the boomer tables next year.
>>65404617>targeting <$2kRip shitfield lmao
>tfw my 90s Chinese AR carry handle mount scope doesn't hold zero. Bummer. That was a $20 auction gamble. I was hoping it was unused since it was in the box, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the previous owner knew it was shit then just put it back in the box. Then when he died it ended up at his estate auction. Guess I’ll have to buy something more expensive now.
>>65403257Given around the 20s-30s, that rifle cost about $9-12 (~$100-200 today, somehow around the same cost as a fucking Iver Johnson revolver), maybe. Fun rifle, though. And far from the only Mod 12 to be tapped for a long ass scope. If I had to get a rifle for hunting squirrel and similar game back then, that would be my choice. Maybe a smaller scope. But a similar setup, maybe a gill gun set up like that instead with a Mossberg side mount if I could get one that early. The Savage ones even had the option to lock the bolt shut!
>>65405065At that price I'm buying a cmp for being surplus. I'm not even going to look at Springfield's unless they're $1200 range
hows your surp summer going bros?
that's none of your fucking business how my summer is going, faggot
>>65406862>want m1 carbine>all the boomers want silly prices for them in my areaLike I'd get it if it were an early setup or a Rock Ola, but it's just generic mix master Inlands for $2000 here.
Recent opportunities>Winchester 1911SL>Savage 99, Takedown>1969 Finn Nugget>1887 repro>Tula SKSI, once again, wish this thread were more of “c&r general” but I’ll be daft if I try to talk an anon out of an M65 Jacket
>>65398495>>65400858>>65401616
>>65406862eh kind of taking a back seat to other projects. Fall and winter are peak comfy range day season here anyway.
>>65406862Haven’t bought anything since this Mk.III in May.
>>65407955That's a nice looking SMLE, how much do you end up paying for it if you don't mind me asking? Looking to get a Mk.III or Mk.III* for my first Lee-Enfield.
>>65408610I’d recommend going with a No.4 instead. If you’re dead set on the No.1, I’d give the Ishapore 2A1 a look. Chambered in .308, so ammo is a lot easier to come by than .303.
>>65408610$655.78 after fees and theft, then perhaps $20-worth of gas for the drive to pick it up. It came with a 1942 Lithgow Pattern 1907 bayonet. >>65408675SMLE has SOUL.
Not really "milsurp" but does anybody have any experience with these older Chinese air rifles? pawn shop has 2, im considering buying them
>>65409510Literally have near identical rifles like the top and bottom sitting a few feet from me. Expect little power. Old air rifles sometimes have leather piston seals and I wouldn't be surprised if these did too, so expect them to take more oil if they do to keep that seal wet. The sights on the bottom one on mine, at least, are further back and a stamped "box" design that looking closer, I'm missing a C clip on. That one is marked "MADE (IN?) SHANGHAI, CHINA". I think the "in" is supposed to be below made but it's faint. The end of my underlever has a textured plastic sleeve which the clip has pierced, lol. Chinese underlevers ALSO may not have anti-beartrap mechanisms. That means if they slip off the sear, the silver cover is able to snap shut HARD which has given cheap underlevers the "finger chopper" nickname. Use a pellet loading pen on them; even Walmart carries them. The top, I have a similar model with a painted stock and no sling loops. Super loose in the stock. The slider is a staple shaped piece of metal folded over the rear sight. I've handled another like that which was similarly cheap. Don't expect them to be super accurate IMO. Tom (?) on the Pyramyd Air blog may have some articles with reviews on them. Huge backlog of reviews there.Also, WAC may still have the "Pioner" Romanian bakelite stock kid's air rifles. $45. They're tiny. My barrel literally sits cocked to the left, but it's sealed well. If you're over 5'0" I think using the sights with the stock comb is impossible. On all the air rifles, I'd grab them if cheap. $25 max maybe unless you had a lot of interest in them. I think I paid that for the pair if that.
>>65403816People say this but it's not realistic. 1920s game wardens weren't wandering around listening for gunshots in the woods & prairies hoping to home in on the alleged poacher before they fuck back off to their house.
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>>65398901Not entirely wrong, not entirely true either
>>65406862Actual surp pickings have been very dry, but I did pick up an FAL kit so now I need to figure out how to put it together and maybe engrave the receiver.
How did I do?
>>65410812very cool, tell us about the thompson
>>654108721941 Savage Arms M1928A1, semi-auto conversion unfortunately
>>65410812That 1911 nearest the Wz.35 looks immaculate.
>>65410901Still open bolt? Can't imagine it would be tough to reconvert. Funny how some countries gun laws are less restrictive in some respects than we who are supposed to have rights to own them
>>65410901Would a Thompson FRT work on a rebuilt Thompson?
>>65409934I love .22lrI love nugget But if those mini nugs either>were cheaper>had a magazineI would buy one.
>>65409934>don't talk to me or my son ever again>>65411819My Romanian M69 is the closest thing I have to a 22lr nugget. It's commie surplus, ugly, and the bolt sticks (worse than my nugget actually), and it was only $100.
>>65397835Holy shit, I bought two of those a couple years ago, max, for like $85. >>65397845I sold one a year later and they were already fewer around.
>>65411848>AI gets the girl right but not the gunsoo close.
>>65411636closed :/>>654113861917 M1911 - it sure is beautiful
>>65412784>>65411636went to fire it for the first time today and it's still an open bolt, to my huge surprise. funny thing is I could by a full auto lower receiver, because owning it is not illegal, only using it to convert a semi-auto to full auto is.
>>65412784>>65414370Awesome.
>>65414370You could probably just remove whatever semi auto disconnector is in the existing lower assy, not that you should break the law of courseHow much was it?
>>65412579Turns out humans are shitty at art too. The image is from at least 2018 by a guy named "molyb."
>>65414449I actually had this pictured saved before buying mine. what year is yours? mine 1917 is in the 163k series number. bottom one is 1915 commerciall, still works flawlessly, sadly someone changed the grips at some point and glued them to the frame
>>65414852someone thought about that and the lower is impossible to disassembly after conversion. 3,5k in $
>>65414927>what year is yours?That >>65414449 (You) one is 2004 LOL. My actual M1911 shipped from Colt on November 18th 1918.
>>653971554k is what the boomers buying a dozen of them a year will flip them for. This will be like the M1 situation but probably worse since boomers hold a more vested interest in the M14
>>65414990>2004 LOLthe font looked a bit off, still thought its just a great renovation>November 18th 1918.missed the war by a week
>>65414884fair. im used to just everything being off these days as slop i forgot that there was plenty of it beforehand
I do not care for heel releases. That is all.
>>65411848>bolt sticksI have smoothed out a multitude of rough guns using pic related. I'd polish the bolt body, then find a bore mop that fits the inside of the receiver and put that on a rod on a drill and polish the shit out of in there as well.
>>65412116I wish Tango Down still made that grip
>>65415320Acknowledged. Euros held on to those far longer than they should have.
>>65407414Trigger assembly is finished I have the lever using a cut up piece from original internals of the lower that's not needed in semi. Have a cut up lower trigger pack as part of the 3d print packs so can see where need to trim the metal bit to work out for trigger to reset and sear to engage. Will upload it to odysee tomorrow when I get back from work .
>>65415788Sweetness.
>>65415004Colt gonna Colt. They can't even make their own products after a hundred years.
>>65415320This man speaks the truth.
What is the Mosin Nagant / SKS of today?
>>65417096psa ar15
>>65417096Yea, AR-15. Fucking everywhere, millions made, every country on the planet using them, and so on.Even Iran is using an AR-15 variant now lol.
Here's your competition to buy one. Just saw this on normiebook, a page posted about the CMP M-14s. I knew boomers are fucked, but I didn't know they are THAT fucked. Coming from someone that's collected milsurp for 20 years
>>65417131>>65417145I'd say AR-15's are more the Mauser action of today rather than the Mosin.Whatever is clearly shittier than an Ar-15 but still an alright gun would be better off as "The mosin of today"
>>65417484The Mosin of today is $200 polymer stocked hunting rifles.
>>65396114How much should I expect to pay for an original 1903 pistol grip stock? Some guy on eBay has one in the supposed original box for $800
>>65417800Have you checked elsewhere to get an idea of the going rate? If not, why haven't you?
>>65417825>Have you checked elsewhere to get an idea of the going rate?Yeah and all I saw for sale were reproductions, no other originals at all
>>65417861Shit, I didn't find any either. I wish I had something helpful to offer
>>65417927I’d probably just be better off buying a low serial number some boomer wants to get rid of that happens to be in an A1 stock
>>65417995You want an original C stock that badly? Seems kinda far out when the replicas are legit really nice.
>>65418005>You want an original C stock that badly?My autism knows no bounds
>>65418024Fair enough. Too bad numrich doesn't have any, or apex. Between those two I figured there would be originals
I really want to buy a PSA M16 but I'm holding out hope that the CMP will be based and start selling surplus ones
>>65418160You'll have paid your mortgage off before that happens
If anyone wants to get a 1903A4 at a good price I found this one mistakenly labeled as an A3https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/rifles/springfield-rifles-03/remington-03-a3-30-06.cfm?
>>65418197Oops https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/rifles/springfield-rifles-03/remington-03-a3-30-06.cfm?gun_id=103755214
>>65417800>>65417825>>65417861>>65417927>>65417995>>65418005>>65418024And then Anon was a Boomer.
>>65417266>Us boomers deserve $200 CMP M14>You zoomers can buy a CMP M14 for minimum $2000>WHY ARE KIDS TODAY NOT WANTING TO WORK? Holy fuck, can boomers be any more tone deaf?
>>65418201That's a really good price, damn. ESPECIALLY for Cabela's, usually their used gun guys smoke crack or something before they price guns.I hate that I'm flat broke and at my lowest point in 35 years on earth, shit timing.
>>65418227No, they really can't. There were other boomers saying pretty much the same things: that they should get the lowest price, that they should get first pick, that they are entitled to the nicest ones, ect. A few already mentioned flipping them.So yeah, this'll be totally fucked and not fun like how it could be.
>>65418160Unfortuanantly America dumps its old surplus M16s onto poorer countries as free military aide so we probably won't be seeing any surplus M16s that aren't parts kits for a long time.
>>65418298If we got rifles back from those countries it'd all be shit with completely trashed stocks and worn out metal with no finish remaining. Uppers and lowers with massive slop and wobble. Shit no sane individual would want.
>>65418237Luckily the CMP is in full "fuck boomers" mode with the M14s and have a 2 rifles per person per year rule for em.
>>65418363>2 rifles per person per year ruleI never thought I'd be pleased to see rationing, but that's a massive relief. My broke ass might actually be able to get one eventually. Thanks, that lifted my spirits
>>65418237Which is funny, because isn't the CMP all about passing on marksmenship to the next generation. Boomers are the meme of pulling up the ladder only for them to sell it their grand kids for 3x the price. Everything from cars to houses to guns, boomers have ruined in the name of short term profit. >>65418363>Luckily the CMP is in full "fuck boomers" mode with the M14s and have a 2 rifles per person per year rule for em.If I was in charge of the CMP, I would prohibit people +60 from purchasing, and watch the amount of boomer seething happen.
The japs were on to something...
>>65418434>I would prohibit people +60 from purchasing, and watch the amount of boomer seething happen.Or how about this, they are allowed to buy them, but only after younger or less experienced shooters got what they wanted first. Reverse their retarded logic where seniority is literally the only thing that matters.But yeah, not all of them, but still an objectively evil and destructive generation.
If suppressors get stricken off the NFA what milsurp would you take the newly easy opportunity to muffle, /milsurp/ers?
>>65418434yes the most legally protected and advocated for demographic group in the country. Well..second most
>>65418201>my fuck ass stateA 1.3hr drive but worth…Thanks for the tip Anon. No gun shows around for months thanks to our gay jew governor so this might be the trip I’ve been needing >>65418229Indeed. Wya, anon?
>>65418755>WyaFucking Minneapolis
>>65418727This was brought up before, and this is not really milsurp since I'd use a turkshit clone because holy fuck is HK expensive, but it'd be really fun to slap a scope on an MP5SD
>>65415788Go time.>>65418298>>65418298Bowman has beat up kits for like $1200-1500. Too rich for my blood. I'd rather just get one of the HR uppers with m4 feed ramps and 1:8 or 1:7 twist. It'll totally be my cope clone.>>65418452It's a common misconception those are aircraft sights on jap rifles, they're actually sloped sights for their sloped eyes.
>>65418350>Shit no sane individual would want.The kits are expensive and sell fast, so I guess intact rifles would be even more so.
>>65418779Waan ka xumahay inaan taas maqlo walaal.
>>65418843Of course the question does not presume the can itself is milsurp. Just which of your toys would get toys of their own?
>>65418727Time to get a suppressor for the mosin nagant "pu" now
>>65418727That reminds me...
>>65419417That’s pretty fuckin radical. What is that 1895 doing looking so cool?
So im looking into parts kits, what are they different types of demills? I hear people talking about type 1, type 2 demills but I cant find any information on what the differences are
>>65419385I am not a Somalian. I'm half Norwegian and half Swedish
Has there been any word on if you can buy a suppressor if your under 21 now?
>>65417266Should be 2 rifles per household per year. You know boomers are gonna sign their wives up so they can try and get 4 rifles.
>>65420519>You know boomers are gonna sign their wives up so they can try and get 4 riflesShit, probably. Their greed knows no bounds
I got my first surplus gun, a series 3 nagoya arsenal type 99Just got ammo in too I can't wait to shoot it, but I'm kind of nervous for some reason. I took it apart and see no reason it wouldn't function perfectly, but I might wear a face shield the first few shots
>>65420560Anon that's one of the strongest rifle actions in existence, you'll be fine
>>65420519I think you mean, 2 rifles per person per lifetimeYou could have two of different makers, or a nice one and a beater, or a stock one and a tricked out EBR. I think thats reasonable
>>65420560I have never ever ever worn any kind of eye protection shooting even the most janky reweld diy bullshit. Don't worry about it
>>65420683I don't either unless I happen to be at a range where I have to. Otherwise no, never.
>>65420560its literally the most retard proof firearm of all time
>>65420560Are you aware of the explanation of the origin of the exploding Jap rifle myth?
Appalachian Arms got Tommys out of Europe for those willing to drop $1100 on an overweight SMG kit with a demilled bolt and barrel.https://apparmsco.com/product/m1-thompson-parts-kit/
>>65418201Well shit that didn’t last. Anyone?
>>65421930I remember like 20 years ago sportsman's guide had a big shipment of pristine unused Thompsons from lend lease tanks sent to Russia as crew armament, so it was told. They looked like they were made yesterday.It'll never stop amazing me how much this hobby has changed
>>65421991It hasn't changed, poorfags have just been priced out of shit thats both easy to build and actually cool
>>65421991In about 2020 I built an m16a1 from the malaysian? parts that were coming in$299 centerfire kit sans furniture$189 green mountain chrome lined barrel$50 complete stock set from numrich$30 anderson lower i already hadLet's round it up to $600 builtWhat a country has a similar kit i bought then in stock now, but the one in their picture is in much worse condition than mine was, for $799
>looking at Trapdoors >wow this one is really cool >wonder what the bore condition is >scroll down for the description >the
>>65423621
>>65423819Pretty much lol
Anyone here know what a good price is for a Type 30 Arisaka? I've got the itch for one and having a rifle that fought in the Russo-Japanese war would be pretty neat.
>>65423621>It's all lies, every word of it>It's not 1884, It's not Springfield, It's not trapdoor>And since when it was a THE
>>65423621Ohio State University about to sue this guy
>>65406862Goin all right. Not a fan of this time of year as my uninsulated garage gets hot as balls but its where my reloading setup is and I need to finish this latest batch of 6mm Lee Navy. I just wait till night stop being a pussy and get the fan going.
>>65423621The pictures speak for themselves sonny I know what I got.Posted from my 2010 Dewalt DCS370 cordless Band Saw
>>65424852You better not store anything sensitive to moisture out there.
>>65424963no the powders and other moisture sensitive stuff all stay inside a fire cabinet in the same room as the safes. That said it doesnt get very humid here in summer so its not a huge issue overall but I take precautions.
>>65424966I bet it’s more humid than you think. and the diurnal temperature fluctuation forces moisture into things like you wouldn’t expect
>>65424967Thank you for your service. Hasnt been a problem for the 8 years ive been here but I appreciate the thoughts.
>>65421930I wonder if these are the ones from the Soledar salt mine
>>65424974No problem. I think I will take a bath.
>>65417652Are there any new polymer rifles with full lengths stocks or is that just a milsurp thing?
>>65424977they probably paid 200 bucks a pop for them
>>65424998not that i know ofsome sporting rifles have mannlicher style where it goes all the way to to muzzle but i dont know of any mannlicher polymer stocksfor practical purposes a full length stock and handguard is only needed for bayonet use, to give a better grip and protect from barrel heat, otherwise its just unneeded weight.
>>65406862i'm just waiting for motivation to start half a dozen different parts kit builds ive spent multiple hundreds of dollars on each
>>65417266Here's the other ragebait. DESU I dont even HATE this one so long as it was "if you can literally prove you served IN COMBAT with an M14, you can get ONE first." But still pay for it I guess. I'm of the opinion that CMP orders should be spaced out by a year and that every year, they look through ALL submitted orders, and give each unique SSN/person one, and once everyone has ONE, then they can loop back to the top and give 2nd/3rd rifles to the people who wanted them.
>>65397197>forged receiver >vs cast >welded shut selector switch and sear>vs civie no hole stock or hole in usgi stock>real fiberglass top heat shield >ccs cheap faux Tera cotta flower pot plastic top heat shield >bayolug >vs milled off factory bayo lugThe people who are into m14s care about this
>>65425195A better solution would be that anyone who served while the 1968 gun control act was passed, should be permanently banned from purchasing these guns entirely.
>>65425195First choice should go to anyone with a valid CIA/FBI/ATF ID and the head of the agent it belongs to.
>>65426621Killing your enemies with kindness, anon?
while we are on the topic, what are the CMP requirements for purchasing an M14 even going to be?
>>65424998Yea unfortunately full length stocks are almost exclusively a military feature, the only exception is mannlicher stocks but they're uncommon and not cheap. I'd kill for a full length polymer stocked ruger American or something in 308 for $250
>>65425195mcnamaras morons deserve nothing
>>65427122The ruger American is freefloated. Any barrel properly bedded is not gonna be that cheap
>>65417266>>65425195Most entitled people on the planet. Boomers cannot die fast enough.
>>65427002Exactly the same as the M1 Garands if I had to make a reasonable guess.
What is the consensus on this year's CMP reclaimed M1903s? Has anyone gotten their hands on one? It be something I'm vaguely interested in but I am less interested in going through the humilation ritual of jumping through CMP's hoops to get my hands on one.
>>65427002proof of citizenship, proof of marksmanship, membership of cmp affiliated club, blood sample, stool sample, semen sample, and you have to bang the fat chick at the talladega store
>>65427526i fingerfucked a couple last time i went to the store in bama. the actions seemed smooth enough. all about the same as my mixmaster 1914 ria. they looked fine, id put a few more coats of RLO on the stocks though. for 950 or so I'd definitely buy one if i made more than 400 bucks a week kek
>>65427192What leads to this level of smugness?
We're fucked lmao
>>65429965those are algorithmically recommended based on your search history.
>>65429978Got to agree>>65429965Stop using google
>>65427973Is it possible to make that low of a wage?
>>65430025Mybe NEET bucks? it would put him assuming a 40hour work week at about $10 an hour which is low as fuck, but not impossible for certain unskilled, low wage, entry level minimum wage places.
>>65430025>>65430074He could have a chronic illness that limits how much work he can do, in addition to him possibly being a cashier or something.
>>65430106Thats was my second thought is he gets disability or NEET money that pays for his essentials/rent and then whatever else (this $400 a week) is left for surp and stuff and is from part-time work or random stuff.
>>65430114>>65430106>>65430074QUICK, someone get this retired disabled vietnam vet to the front of the M14 line PRONTO
>>65429965I think people are massively overestimating how fast >100,000 guns can be sold through the CMP. The M1As have been around for decades and more faithful kit built M14s have also been around for decades. Sure an actual surplus M14 is obviously more desirable, but the CMP tard filters and the 2 rifles per year limit should ensure a ready supply for years. The primary limiter will probably be converting the things since they make it seem more involved than just tack welding the selector.As a point of comparison, they got nearly 100,000 Garands back in 2018 and it took them years before they started running into shortages. And that was a far more famous rifle that was cheaper, had no buying limits, no real civilian variant either while also having a WW2 pedigree.
>>65430320No one is suggesting preferential treatment, besides the boomers
>>65430025I work part timeMin wage is still 7.25 in my stateHaven't had luck finding another jobBoss won't give me more hours
>>65431662Bro. Bro you gotta do something. My first job at the local hardware store paid me $11.50/hr for pushing shopping carts in. Bro that was in 2011. Bro..
Anyone know of a way i could score a no4 mk2 lee enfield for about 200 bucks?
>>65432613buy a completely fucked one for 200 bucks then restore it.
>>65432633know where i could find any of them? i just need the reciever as i want to rebore it to .308
>>65396114I want to buy milsurp pants because I think they look cool and they're comfy.>https://www.armysurplusworld.com/woodland-camo-twill-bdu-pantsAm I gonna get ripped off buying these pants?>>65431662Find a new job nigga.
>>65432729probably just wait around and get lucky on auction sites or gunshows. avoid gunbroker.At that point though if you want to re-bore it to .308 why not just get an Ishapore? wont be 200 bucks, but wont be expensive either.
>>65431662Nigga, fucking Wally World hires losers to stock shelves at 3am for like $15 per hour. You're not even trying.
>>65431662>part time at $7.25>no luck finding something elseYou could literally make more working at a Gamestop thats going out of business. Something else is going on here you're not telling us anon.
>>65432774ill look into going to some local gun shows then, i cant find ishapores easily, im probably not looking hard enough
>>65432573In 2010 I cashiered at Target for $7.50. It was a different time
>>65431662Dude, not trying to sound like a boomer or wagecuck, but sometimes you actually need to work hard and work some overtime to get ahead in life. There are tons of jobs out there that pay better than what you’re making even if you have no experience, but you gotta at least branch out of our comfort zone and apply for them. These jobs might actually require you to have to work hard and use your brain sometimes, but that’s part of life.
>>65417266YOU GOT ANOTHER THING COMING IF YOU DON'T RESPECT THE TROOPS KIDDO! I GOT MYSELF A GREAT DEAL ON A JAP RIFLE BACK IN THE DAY FOR $20 FROM MY GOOD OLD NEIGHBOR REUBEN CROMWELL (RIP 1939-2010, CHLOESTROL IS NO JOKE). TURNED HER INTO A FINE HUNTING RIFLE. LEAST I CAN DO WITH ALL THIS OBAMAFLATION IN OUR OBAMANATION IS GET TO SPEND AN EXTRA ZERO ON AN AMERICAN MADE RIFLE!______________OKINAWA VETERAN (1962-1963)IT'S MOPAR OR NO CAR!KANSAS CITY CHIEFS SEASON TICKET HOLDER
>>65432943Reminds me of
>>65432998REMINDS ME? REMINDS ME? SONNY, YOU HAVENT BEEN AROUND LONG ENOUGH TO REMEMBER ANYTHING. I REMEMBER THE GOOD OLD DAYS OF $50 M1 CARBINES I COULD GET FROM THE SEARS CATALOGUE MAILED RIGHT TO THE DOOR OF MY 5 BEDROOM HOUSE I BOUGHT FOR $7,000 AFTER WORKING ONLY 30 YEARS AT THE STEEL MILL. THE BEST DAYS OF MY LIFE_____________Vietnam Vet, Twenty Nine Palms Commissary 1970-71Once a Marine Always a MarineWritten with Dicta-talk from my Nokia 6085
>>65432749Those are imported and not actual US made pants FWIW. And you can get used pants way cheaper. What state are you in? Even if you're not in my state, I feel like Sportsmans Guide has to have used ones cheaper or new old stock at the same price, actually US made. Or find a legit surplus store and buy some used M81 pants for like $5-10.
>>65432749He needs to find a new job less badly than you need to learn about milsurp clothes. Do a little research, learn what the tags and cuts look like, and move from there. And no, I will not spoon-feed you because no one learns that way...if you actually like 'surp, this will be fun for you.
>>65396114does wearing milsurp in public feel shameful to any other anons? even if i try to make it as casual as possible it feels like it's straying from the norm enough that i get looks for it
>>65424974Really sad I didn't see Porcco Rosso until this year.
>>65434229No. Personally I exclusively wear surplus ushankas during the winter because it snows a shit ton in my state (MI) and no other hat provides the same level of warmth.
>>65434229The age-old rule to milsurp is to wear only 1 item of milsurp per outfit. I wear milsurp pants like half the time, but that means wearing a regular shirt and shoes with it.Of course, one can forgo this rule, but the guys who ignore it look like school shooters
>>65434292I’ve found that you can get away with two pieces so long as one is an accessory (hats, boots, etc) and one of the pieces is a neutral color. An OD green field cap and an M65 field jacket works.
>>65432943That is a really pretty stockThe scope is classy tooI know sportizing milsurps is "le bad" but I would be glad to own this one desuArisakas in the 60s and 70s were the shitty RTI vetterlis and carcanos of their day
>>65434229>class A mint colored dress shirt with epualets removed>gi wool army sweater>navy kersey peacoat>non milsurp work pants>bundeswehr oxfords That was probably the most amount of milsurp I'd wear at a timeIt works when the milsurp doesnt look like milsurp
>>65434244>>65434292>>65434445i mostly wear jackets or bags from commie milsurp, so it's probably okay then, thanks anons
>>65434634My favorite piece of surp was the m85 czech parkasI bought like 5 for my buddies when they were $15 a piece from varusteleka before they went to shit
>>65434672I had one of these and it got lost in a move a few years back. I still wonder what happened to it. It was warmer than anything else I owned. I think I bought it from the same place.
>>65434672>varusteleka before they went to shitIt was sad.
>>65434164I just want cheap comfy pants for my dogshit job. Hell, I'd tell him to interview at my job because it pays way more than 7.25 / hr.>>65433526I'm in CO. I've searched around for B&M stores that carry stuff near me and have come up empty. Maybe I don't know what to search for exactly.
Hey guys, I got an offer to purchase a Spanish M43 mauser (not an FR 7/8 to be clear) “chambered in 308” so the guy says. I’ve read conflicting reports from a decade ago on the half dead shooting boards saying that they are or are not 308 rated, hell some even said they’re all 7.62 CETME so even NATO ammo is pushing it pressure wise. Best I can tell there may have been some commercial guns rebarreled to actual 308 by some importer but again, nothing concrete. Any idea what the truth of the matter is?
>>65435053The M43 is a Model 1898 action: .308 will be fine.
>>65434672I still gotta get my Romanian jacket similar to that stink free.>>65435040Unironically maybe eBay at that point. Or look at thrift stores. If you can find local small chains, they tend to very strangely be a reasonable source of M81 woodland pants and shirts here. Maybe 1/3 the time I go I'll find woodland. I guess I'm lucky my surplus store has a giant pile of cheap flat price stuff.
>>65399182I'm thinking about doing two but then again they're 2000$ I bet
>>65421930>https://apparmsco.com/product/m1-thompson-parts-kit/What do you do with these take them to a welder and say fix it?
>>65435071Oh nice, the jew mauser, saw a few for sale lately. Fair enough about the large ring Mauser being good to go. Retarded followup question though, my concern and understanding was that the barrel was the point of failure with milsurp 7.62 rifles firing, not so much the receiver, is that not so? I haven’t seen the stamp on the barrel but what I’m unsure of is that if the barrel is stamped just 7.62 that either A) it’s a 7.62 NATO barrel and may not handle 308 well long term or B) is a 7.62 CETME barrel and won’t handle either well
>>654351577.62NATO and .308WIN are considered interchangeable by the CIP and have the exact same max pressure limit in the cartridge specifications codified by that organization. They're functionally the same cartridge. Where are you getting this impression that milsurp 7.62NATO barrels are failing from shooting .308WIN?
>>65435157Why do you think they'd make barrels soft as silly putty?Just remember to always wear a welding mask when you shoot that pipebomb lol
>>65435187>Where are you getting this impression that milsurp 7.62NATO barrels are failing from shooting .308WIN?He's reading fudd forums from 2006
>>65435187I assume he's referring to the ancient 308 v 762 pressure myth.
>>65435157>Oh nice, the jew mauser, saw a few for sale lately. >”oh sweet been needing one to complete my .308 milsurp bolt gun collection”>first one>seller: KaplanPoetry
Just bought some of theseI have a bakelite feitsh
>>65435111You're supposed to weld it yourself bubAlternatively buy this "display receiver" https://philaord.com/museumquality/m1-m1a1/ and machine it out yourselfIt would be pretty simple, just a pocket, no dovetail or blish lock groove bullshit like on the 1921/28/28A1You do have a milling machine right
Been trying to find a single period photo of a Brixia M1913, but have come up dry. Is there any other milsurp that was issued and used, but seems to lack any photo evidence of it existing in its own time?
>>65434236>Porcco RossoRequired watching for all /msg/ participants
>>65435111Yea, if you don't have the knowhow or equipment to rebuild it you'd send it to a dude. Actually won't be too much more than an Auto Ordnance repro
>>65396114the m95 steyr carbine is the best rifle for any infantry servicemancomparably lightweightshortthe wide sling makes carry even more comfyen bloc 5 rounders very fast & easy reloadstraight pull fast firedat bayonet is good for cooking too but not too big/heavyi mostly carried my rifle and never fired it so this is my takeand keeping gun lockers in order is totally overrated, in a chaotic locker you always find a gun you totally forgot about and this is almost as thrilling as getting a new one.
Anyone looking to sell a no4 mk2 lee enfield for 200 bucks?
>>65436100i have the rifle length version, its aight
Coworker wants to trade a Nagoya arsenal type 99 for my maverick 88Figure that’s way more than fair for me, I know it’s most the most expensive Arisaka but it’s still got more inherent value than a budget mossberg
>>65436717Not the most expensive*
>>65436717100%, especially if it’s intact mum
What’s the cheapest non-corrosive 8mm Mauser currently available? I want to shoot my M48 more often, but definitely not for 1.50 a round
>>65436733Not an intact mum or he definitely wouldn’t do that trade, at any rate it’s still a piece of history as opposed to the maverick where if I want another I can probably get one for like $180
>>65436755Just shoot turkshit and actually clean your gun bro
>>65436717sounds sus
>>65436773>It's a piece of history!!!!!!It's a chunk of wood and steel that you won't shoot because of ammo so it'll sit around taking up space in your house that could go to something that actually enriches your life. You sounds like an old Karen clinging to her grandparents shitty furniture
>>65437107>>>/pfg/
>>65437107Does the concept of collecting not register with you?
>>65436100I love the M.95 as well
Two Romy Vz. 24s and one German-Yugo captured M24/52č
poorfag and college fag, i want a cheap milsup bolt action, thought about a mosin but prices for ammo and shit have gone up. What does /k/recommend now as the essential lineup for poors wanting to get into milsup?
>>65437513very nice
>>65436755Portuguese is the cheapest surplus that isn't corrosive but just buy 70's Yugo or Romanian and clean your gun. Its really not that hard to clean out corrosive ammo.>>65437772Depends on what you consider poorfagIf you want a Mosin and you have $600-$700 get an M39.If you have 500 get a Yugo M48 or if you can get a good deal on one get a M48/98 (German K98's that Yugoslavia got ahold of post ww2).8mm Mauser and 7.62x54r is gonna be the cheapest surplus ammo available
>>65437564Vz.24 are always fun. Cheap, so many variants. It's like a box of chocolates.
>>65437564>German-Yugo captured M24/52čWho captured who?
>>65436220we already went over that earlier in the thread anon.are you ok?
>>65437564I got 3 Yugos with questionable history.
>yugo Mauser partyGentlemen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS0tZt9ogYQ
M-m-m-m-eowser ?REEEEEEEEEEÈEEEEEEi once had a m25/47 which had a really comfy wide red oak buttstock so 8mm wouldnt kick so hard. wish i didnt sell it for autism reasons.
>>65438915Mausers.
>>65438915Yeah, some of those Yugo stocks were made REALLY chunky. Presumably for durability
>>65438426:( i was hoping someone would read through again, i just ordered a no4 mk2 reciever and im going to just build it, feels more personal that way
>>65439991That's gonna be a long road
>>65435759Who made that cup? Swear to god I have a melamine (?) cup that's US made that looks like that. Comes in pastel-ish pink, yellow, or blue IIRC. No memory of maker. But the handle is almost the same. Just not bake.
>>65440029To Tipperary
Found this crate of .50 from WW2 at a local shop. 2 spam cans, 60 rounds each, pristine condition. Any ideas on value? I just threw a number I was comfortable with at the shop since I cannot find this or an equivalent anywhere online. Last place I saw selling them was Midway fifteen years ago.
>>65440231I'll bet a Boomer would give $10/rd for the crate with unopened spam cans. Shit is Fancy Feast to them.
>>65440231Yea you can probably sell that for more than $10 a round or sell the entire crate for like 2 grand. Shit looks mint. Nice find, Anon.
>>65440086>Comes in pastel-ish pink, yellow, or blue IIRC. No memory of maker.Like this? Texas Ware made them. They also made great plates I can vouch for.
Should we do a Long Way to Tipperary theme for the next thread?
>>65440086Halsey inc. Scranton PA
>>65437772.308 Spanish/South American Mauser. Cheapest milsurp and shoots real fuckin NATO (cheapest and assuredly most readily available ammo in whatever dumb libshit college town you live in) FR-7/FR-8 are the coolest.
>>65439173>>65438915do fake mausers count?
>>65397605>>65396119>>65407955E-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-REEEEEEEEEEenfield time?
>>65441392>fake mausers>posts the best mauser
>>65440583Might be it. Thought it didn't have the bump on the side or the notch in the base but I could be wrong. Probably in a box somewhere. Swear I've seen it recently. >>65440595Made not too far away from here. Never seen one. Neat!
>>65440910>FR-7/FR-8 are the coolest.I've been thinking about an FR-8 for a while now. I love my Jew Mauser and want another 308 one.
>>65441975How is the star 30? I convinced my cousin to buy one instead of a c82
>>65442122I like it, it's big, heavy, soft shooting, holds an acceptable amount of 9mm. The trigger is pretty good especially in SA. Mine unfortunately has FTE issues and parts are not available anywhere, but that's what I get for buying the worst condition, cheapest one I could find ($200).At the end of the day it's a wonder 9 and wonder 9s are going to be about the most practical surp pistol money can buy. And if you want to confuse the fuck out of people it does that too.
>>65441975I hate the rear sight on the fr8
>>65443256>>65443256>>65443256Migrate
