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AK General /akg/
To The Moon Edition
>Thread #2100

Old thread here >>65358157
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AK Buyer's Guides

>Rifles
https://thinlineweapons.com/wiki/index.php/SimpleBuyersGuide
>Magazines
https://thinlineweapons.com/wiki/index.php/AK_Mag_Buyers_Guide#Quality
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>>65418168
Would a conventional enclosed red dot or holo work in orbit or on the moon?
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>>65418179
No. Space and glass is like water and glass. They blend together so well that the light has nothing to reflect off of, so the light from the sight just fucks off into space.
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I made something im going to blog about it
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hope these posts aren't too BORING
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Anyone else experiencing delays at Childers for receivers?
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but I didn't think it warranted a new THREAD
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It fits!
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I should make a MILLion of these
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nevermind this shit took all day
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Almost there
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Done!
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yes i have a stamp dont kill my dog plz

thank you for reading my blog
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>>65418344
Nice dubs, we're screwed.
>>65418361
Is the left one the one you're cloning, or a just a second try?
If the latter, what is it? Looks kinda like a knock off SRVV Jet Brake.
>>65418368
Seems like a lot of work just to have essentially a $5 AMD brake.
But neat, and nice work.
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>>65418411
the one on the right is a 3d print I found on the internet left is the one I made
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>>65418426
Ah ok, I'm retarded. I was basing that on the milling lines but since it's printed that makes perfect sense.
Again, nice work.
Let us know how well/poor it functions.
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>>65418344
Silly anon, bolt goes in receiver.
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I know this is stupid but I want to take the scope rail off of my kit build. All I'd have to do is re rivet 1 rear trunnion rivet and the center support right? And maybe reblue which i want to do anyway. I just think they look cleaner, practicality and resale value be damned
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>>65418168
are there any good options for a tri or quad rail handguard for an m70? something similar to a b10m and 19 basically
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What's your dream AK?
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>>65420274
Transferable picrel
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Could I interest any of you fine fellows in a parts kit?
The I believe most of the rivets are there, but you will need a front trunnion, barrel and a receiver.
I’ll do 350 for everything. The sock and the box are included.
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What's the difference between this "krinkov style flash hider" and the 4 piece Bulgarian flash hider? I know the 4 piece are supposed to be the best but they look dumb as shit.
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>>65418168
>>65418179
Best option for an Ak in space would be a smart targeting system. Optics wouldn’t work in space. Space suits and helmets are currently too bulky to get a good cheekweld. The environments where spray and pray is even remotely viable are the same environments where it would be a detriment to both friendlies and critical equipment. A smart targeting lock-on system with say, gyrojet technology for better terminal ballistics on the moon would be the perfect lunar battle implement.
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>>65421855
Or this one?
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>>65420846
Are you the georgia guy
Id really like to but I have too many unfinished projects as is
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>>65421855
krink was supposed to give more backpressure for reliable cycling in the shorter combo gas block krink. It just looks the coolest. Might give your gun more recoil and beat itself a little harder if put on a full size AK, but it doesn't really matter. 4 piece bulgarian gives good flash suppression and directs a lot of the noise forward. It's heavy as fuck that's why some people say it decreases recoil. It doesn't actually have anything that decreases recoil. The last style has very good flash suppression that's it
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>>65422038
I got 8inch gun I'm picking up monday, I'll probably just go with the plain flash suppressor unless there's a good reason to get the recoil thing, reliability wise. Is there?
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>>65422077
not really, just looks cool. Just get whatever you think looks cooler
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what tools are required to build an AK from a parts kit? i want to build one but i don't really know what else i would need to buy to get it up and running. i'm not planning on fabricating my own reciever.
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Is there any chance of a Russian loss in Ukraine will flood the market with cheap surplus 7.62x39 or 5.45x39? It's probably foolish but I dream of a brighter future
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I got a question for you all that's been bugging me.
I've been poring over old Soviet manuals, trying to learn the manual of arms of an average Soviet soldier back in the mid 20th century. Not some Spetsnaz operator, just your average Soviet conscript.
When doing an emergency reload (mag dry, no rounds in the chamber), after inserting a fresh mag, were they taught to rack the charging handle with their right hand, or their left?
I know using your left hand and reaching under and around the rifle is considered the meta, but was that how it always was?
Please /akg/ I need to know or I might die of autism.
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I want this so bad
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>>65422015
Yeah, that’s me.
I understand, friend. I bought it a couple years ago, but as I’ve gotten a little older I’ve been realizing that having more crap just adds more stress to my life. Plus, I’ve got an AR, and see no real need to have an AK (at least at this point).
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>>65422797
If you're right handed the soviet doctrine was to break grip to actuate the safety and charging handle, then replace hand on the grip for firing.
Lefties don't exist.
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>>65418168
That'd fill up with moon dust? Rapidly?

More importantly. IF you use such a device, you want to make *damn* sure there's zero possibility for counter on your habitat/craft. Because that will be the natural target, you'll not be living very long without it.

Need to cure yourself of this futile mentality or your species isn't going to be leaving orbit, let alone the solar system: Too busy smashing each other's radiators as they require to be exposed and forcing them to shutdown or just cook themselves.

Space is hostile. That doesn't mean there's something to fight. That means everything is going to kill you. You work together, or you all die.

It's that simple.
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>>65421942
Or just use long eye relief scopes
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>>65422192
Hydraulic press, barrel population tubes, rivet jigs, and various fixturing blocks
I woul say watch "ginsboy2003" on YouTube but 3/4 of his shit got purged. There may still be some videos left though
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>>65418214
Wait have we tested this before? Has anyone sent holsuns or AI points up into space?
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>>65420846
Ill think about it, if it aint sold in like a month's time, Ill contact you via email
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>>65418214
What the fuck are you talking about? A rdd dot should work the same in space
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>>65418214
then how the flip do windows on the ISS work dumdum
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>>65423534
Based sounds good anon.
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>>65422856
Lefties do exist but they live in sin.
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>>65425487
I meant more in the sense of existing as far as Soviet doctrine was concerned.
That poor AMD. Nice mag though.
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I am going to sbs my vepr 12
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An amazing experience from a bygone era ;_;
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Is silver bear/ golden tiger ammo corrosive?
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>>65418168
>>65421942
Why do you need all this? Just slap a CPU or two and some wires on the receiver to make it shoot lasers and call it a day
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>>65425964
Before or after you drink ocean water?
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>>65421942
Why would you need a cheekweld with a holo?
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>>65418168
Anyone else ever see an R stamp on the spine of a mag like this? Possible Hungarian as one of the two mags I was looking at (not sure which one) had a man on the moon stamp. No pics of baseplate or follower or horizontal ribs, sorry. Just took it and totally blanked on mag ID methods as I thought I would go back for a second look and didn't get a chance to.
>captcha answer is a crescent moon
Wtf
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where have you lads been finding 7.62x39? Besides ammoseek and the usual gundeals type places. I've been lucky to get some at a local pawn shop for around .52 cpr, any similar experiences out?
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>>65427792
DDR would be my best guess. Spot welds don't flag as Romy to me, and the stamping definition says East German to me.
Without any other pics it's kinda hard to say for certain though.
Here's an EG for reference.
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>>65427191
nope, its non-corrosive.
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RIP semi auto rifles in CO. At least I got a few before the restrictions went into effect
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>>65427915
my condolences. make sure to take care of it anon
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>>65427915
thats unfortunate
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>>65427234
>Just slap a CPU or two
Is them CPU's?

Or is them supposed to be high current solid state capacitors?

>Why do
Probably something to do with thermodynamics. You see, on Earth what's stopping man-portable energy weapons is the power source. We can build a ten megawatt laser. We can get that package down to something you can pick up and walk around with. What you can't walk around with is the literal power station it takes to feed it.
But in space you have a bigger issue: The lack of condiction. You only have IR to bleed off heat, which is the least efficent form of transfer. Even if your little laser is only 100W (For scaling, at focal point my 4W burning laser will go 3-5mm thru steel per pass) then you're not gettin' many shots outta that before it's hot enough to combust you...

If you absolutely must start such petulance then a centrafugal launcher would impart kinetic energy into a projectile without wasting it on you.

But why bother with the grunts when you can just spin up a shipping container and release it into their habitat. They'll die soon enough.

The natural termination of that line is everyone fucks everyone over large scale and steadily escalating and everyone dies.
Well done. Give yourself a goldfish.
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>>65427898
local gun store selling it for a little cheaper than market price on Ammoseek and local guns classifieds from private sellers when i see a great price
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>>65427915
My gun laws aren't nearly as bad but still dystopian (IL), here's hoping the Supreme Court wacks the of the blue states later this year.
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>>65428565
>There's 2 of us
North or south (of I-80)?
I'm not too up to date on Colorado's bullshit, but there's no way it's worse than our PICA horseshit and the FOID.
97% non-compliance is cool and all, but very few vendors will even ship anything here.
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>>65427902
Shit, looks like I passed up on a decent price for one of those. Thanks anon.
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>>65428087
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1786932186372264.mp4
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>>65430661
Bojacks out?
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>>65431040
No.
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>>65431040
I'm a rat and I won't allow it
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I won this on Gunbroker for $1875, ended up being $2080 total. How'd I do?
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What’s the better route when it comes to kits in terms of long term value? I worry about parts availability if I go the kit route.
A. Build them correct and later decide to sell
B. Hoard the kits and then sell them once supply has dried up
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Whatever happened with the atf saying they were going to allow guns to be imported from previously barred from importation countries? Vaporware?
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>>65432054
Do you have a lot of parts kits right now? What kinds? I feel like if you're just going to resell, common stuff like romanians and yugoslavs wouldn't be worth building, just sell the kits as is. But a well done russian build with correct paint I think would be worth more as a gun than the sum of its parts
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>>65432161
What about milled kits?
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>>65432054
>buy thing you dont want so you can jew people later on
Kys scalper
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>>65432223
Projecting. I have the kits already.
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>>65431795
Isn't that the going rate for these? Also is this SBR or Pin&Weld?
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>>65431795
200 in extra fees? Nigga you got raped
>>65432151
It was a proposed rule. It takes them publishing it in the Federal Register and a 30-90 day comment period to have any effect
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>>65423049
>your species
Shut up Zoidberg we're coming for you and your gross wet sloppy alien porn and we're bringing our damn guns
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>>65433301
Wtf is that stock? But in a good way.
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>>65433530
Rare AIMR stock, one of my dream stocks if I could find alongside the Egyptian crutch stock.
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>>65433535
JMac needs to make more.
Unfortunately it's not exactly a high demand thing since it needs a special receiver to use.
Would be kind of neat to see one made for an AMD receiver.
JMac has Tabuk Rook muzzle devices in 14x1LH, in case anyone wants one.
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Which mag looks better on the AKS-74U?
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>>65433985
The chosen one
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>>65433985
20 rounder
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Troy Sellars at In Range no longer does Saiga conversions. Can any anons recommend someone who can convert my dimpled 223 Saiga to AK-101 spec with akstuff parts?
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>>65438159
Dead thread. I’m sending it to Pod Arms.
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>>65438159
Blackburn AKs in NC
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>>65427898
I can buy Kaiser 7.62x39 for 50 cpr but /k/ shits on it because turkeye
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>>65438159
>>65439616
Feels good bros.
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>>65441049
Forgot pic
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>>65441051
thanks for turning another abomination into a proper AK. Everyone liked that
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>>65441120
Pour one out for the dimple receiver Saigas that didn’t make it.
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>>65441170
I may be weird but I genuinely like the sporter look of a saiga, it just feels right, but If I ever in the future decided to do a conversion if would have to be on a SGL.
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>>65420274
>dream AK
An AR15
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>>65441051
What happened to AKStuff parts?
>Azerbaijani shit
Well at least none of it is structural.
I'm sure it'll be fine.
>>65441378
SGL don't need converting. They're already 100 series pattern.
I suppose there were some fixed stock SGLs but that's not the same conversion from a sporter Saiga to a 100 series.
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>>65441378
The Saiga kinda looks funny, especially with the FSB at the way end of the barrel but I can maybe understand. I think the Norinco Hunters look kinda nice. A Chinese 10 or 20 and side mount scope look good on these, especially a gloss finish Leupold or something. Also I wish I picked up another few of those Saiga mags when Apex had them for like $10 a while back. The front and the top front corners need a small amount of fitting but they seem pretty solid. Haven't had a chance to get it to the range though.
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>>65441399
akstuff parts are Azerbaijani. Everything they have branded “Russian Standard” is actually Iglim. It was easier to order from Atlantic because you don’t have to add everything to cart individually. They also have the selector and cleaning rod in stock, akstuff didn’t.
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>>65418168
I don't think those radiators are big enough.
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>>65441800
Fair enough, dubs.
Enjoy the 101, when you eventually get it back.
Gotta start hunting for rare 5.56 mags now.
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>>65441852
I am doing a Russian rear trunnion at least. I’m going to try to trade the Iglim trunnion for a handguard when it comes in. Pod is modifying the front trunnion to take 74 pattern mags so I don’t know if actual 101 magazines will work in it.
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>>65441908
So let me see if i got this straight.
You're going to permanently modify a 5.56x45 rifle to take 5.45x39 mags except 5.56x45 won't feed for shit out of them so you're going to have to use custom followers (that the guy converting it conveniently makes and sells) for every single mag, forever?
You're retarded as fuck, but it's a free country I guess.
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>>65441948
The vast majority of 5.56 AKs take 74 pattern magazines. All of the Circle 10s, commercial Bulgarian magazines, and Beryl magazines are 74 pattern. The front trunnion modification changes it to match SLR106 geometry.
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>>65441968
Oh I guess I thought the 5.56 was somehow vastly different, but then how would that follower work for 74 mags in the first place if that was the case.
I suppose they're either 74 pattern or Weiger (and M85/M90 which are apparently also unique) and nobody is going to purposely chose to use Weigers over 74 pattern.
I apologize for calling you retarded. Clearly I'm the retard and wasn't thinking it out.
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>>65442183
It’s all good. If I left the front trunnion alone I’d be stuck with Wiegers and Galil magazines. I probably will grab a couple of pod followers so I can get a bake and plumb magazine.
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>>65420274
An AK-104.

>>65441381
tranny
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Welp I finally picked it up and joined the Kalashnikov klub, but better late than never I guess. I was the guy asking about muzzle devices up thread. Glad I went all out and got the arsenal, it feels great. Plan is to put the straight flash hider and a cnc brace on it until hopefully the courts do away with the nfa and I can silence/sbr without paperwork. Mine is has a serial number starting with 62 which reddit says might be a problem, can any of you guys tell me what I should be looking for as far as that goes? Also what's this funny cylindrical doohickey it came with under the gun in this pic?
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>>65443825
I want to do this to mine, >>65445351
how hard would it be to fit the furniture to the gun? Is it just some sanding or do I need a vice and tools and shit?
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>>65445351
>Also what's this funny cylindrical doohickey it came with under the gun in this pic?
That's your cleaning kit
>>65445414
You want to try and turn a milled pistol into a stamped AKMSU?
Good luck, lel.
The first problem you're going to run into is even finding the furniture
Since Ironwood died, nobody really makes a good clone of that handguard anymore.
Kalashnicarver might make you one for the SAM7K if you throw money at them.
They don't even have the original one on their site anymore, just a weird "hollow dong" abomination, but they did make one (at least for Yugos) so they know how.
https://www.kalashnicarver.com/M92-m85-AKSU-Style-Lower-Handguard-p488967329
The only versions of that muzzle device that exist outside of Pakistan are airshit.
Oh and that one Ted Marshall made for Machine gun Mike.
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>>65428087
Hand held chemical lasers like PEPs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulsed_energy_projectile

Battery isn't the primary source of output power, chemical reaction is.
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>>65445531
>That's your cleaning kit
Yeah I got that part figured out, now I can't figure out how get the little fucker open.
>You want to try and turn a milled pistol into a stamped AKMSU?
Yeah that kinda is what I wanted to do. I guess it is a stupid idea. Mostly I just liked the way that lower handguard looks and I don't like the dongs, but if they're out of production, whatever. I was looking at kalashnikarver and some other company for wood furniture. Is it a hassle/ require a lot of tools and skill to fit this stuff that's already made for a sam7 or just a little sanding or something?
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>>65445871
>I can't figure out how get the little fucker open.
Press down and twist the cap
>Is it a hassle/ require a lot of tools and skill to fit this stuff that's already made for a sam7 or just a little sanding or something?
Tools and mechanical know-how aside, you bought a milled krink pistol; the snowflakiest of snowflake AKs when it comes to furniture/parts compatibility.
Probably would've been easier to start from a SAS M-7UFK if you wanted to go for the AKMSU look.
But you should hit up Kalashnicarver and ask them if they can make one for you.
Like I said they have the plans so I'm sure they can do it, for a price.
If not, there's always this $300+ set from Combloc Customs.
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>>65445871
just whittle yourself one out of wood by hand, thats what the khyber pass dudes wouldve done
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Do 12ga steel mags in the style of your standard steel AK ribbed mags exist? Pic is from Metro.
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>>65446212
>Do 12ga steel mags in the style of your standard steel AK ribbed mags exist?
These are the only steel 12ga AK mags I'm aware of
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>>65446227
Thanks, you have any experiences with them?
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>>65446114
Yeah I was looking at those too, that kinda stuff is what I'm asking about, if I got those is it gonna be hard to fit?
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>>65446878
I'd say you'll figure it out, but you couldn't figure out a supposedly retarded conscipt proof cleaning kit. So perhaps you should familiarize yourself with your AK before throwing a bunch of money at it for pretty shit.
That being said, a non-marring mallet and some light sanding might be required.
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>>65447064
And what, I just smash on it with the mallet until it goes in?
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Should I sell my Beryl and get a MDC-101 once they have been on the market for a bit of time. I like the Beryl and all, but is kind of always been a cope for me. I have always loved the 100 series.
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>>65449242
>should I sell my rare extremely expensive import ak that might one day never be imported again for a questionable quality american made ak that will be around for as long as meridian defense is a company?
idk man what do you think
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>>65449242
Retard, if you were to ask this on reddit you get a bunch of shills, think for a second, the beryl has long track record of being solid and you want an american knock off, does any know if they are like PSA 100 series where the internals are not the same as real 100?
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>>65449242
Anons are going to flame you but I’d probably do that if I had a beryl. I’m just waiting for my parks to come in so I can send my Saiga to Pod Arms. The AK-101 is my favorite rifle so nothing else would do.
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>>65449338
I like to shoot, not collect. So yes?
>>65449393
AK jewtubers who have gotten their hands on it (klayco) said the parts are more correct than his SGL. The only thing I don't like about the Meridian I have seen so far is the brake is causing accuracy issues and they, for some reason, decided to put a shelf on the safety. I hate that shit since I am a lefty. Even on my Beryl I replaced that lever with a Tantal one.
>>65449724
>The AK-101 is my favorite rifle so nothing else would do.
Same. But I don't feel like spending what it costs to not only buy a Saiga anymore, but to get it converted just isn't worth it. Then I'd never want to shoot it. It is the issue I have with my Beryl, I don't want to shoot it now because the hekkin value-rino.
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Is it worth it having a side rail installed on this if it didn’t come with one?
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>>65451102
maybe see if you instead replace the dust cover with one that has an integrated rail?
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>>65451111
I’ve looked at that as another option but I have a POSP and some other side rail mounts that I already own. Don’t know if its worth having the rail installed or if its not a good choice to have one put on a rifle that didn’t originally come with one
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>>65449393
I am pretty sure gayco confirmed that is is tradtional 100 series spec (aka, the thin bolt stem like the kusa 103) and not the psa hodge podge of akm and 74 shit.
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>>65451102
Nah. side rails are ugly
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>>65451120
Well the cool thing about mastermount side rail is that it is not permanent, buy it, see if you like it. There are other mounts, such as dust cover rail, gas tube rail, rear sight leaf rail.
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>>65451027
>neckbeards on /akg/ shit on the zhukov stock relentlessly for years
>russia basically copies it for the ak12 and 200 series stocks
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>>65452095
The part people shit on was the hinge mechanism, which is dogshit.
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Pic is front another thread and was curious but did underfolder ever came with 100 series furniture? Or is this just something this random chechen just did for funsies?
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>>65420274
prob a 102 and im gonna end up buying a psa 102
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>>65452527
how do you like the krink? I really want a krink but hate PSA
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>>65452527
How's the accuracy? Are they really inaccurate?
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If you have neither, and could have one of them for free, which would you choose?
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>>65452847
>>65452913
I also hate PSA and wanted a 300BLK Krink so I bought this one and haven't had any issues a 1 or 2k rounds in. I haven't bench accuracy tested it out to distance so im not sure but it grouped well when I zeroed it, you're prob wondering for the 556 accuracy which at the end of the day its an 8 inch barrel
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>>65420274
I have several since all of them go very nice with their own kits
- AK-74M/101 with wooden furniture and dong + okp7, like you could mod one in EFT to look like that (it just looks goregous in that game)
- AK-204 with zenitco furniture, a nice cylindrical suppressor and an eotech with a magnifier behind it
- AKM with a dovetail rail with furniture that is observably worn, ie scratches, but after a good reoil and added resin to fill every single crevice to create a smooth surface, the steel itself reblued and the barrel rechromelined, which will sit perfectly on my wall because it deserves some rest after all the fighting it has done, but that I will take it out to show it off as an example of what a kalashnikov entails
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>>65453212
74M
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>>65420274
1960's Chinese/Vietnam Cong Type 56

Maybe 2 of them so I can give one to my buddy Risto.
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feel like doing an AK12 build with the chiders
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>>65452527
Do not buy a 102. They're pieces of shit. Mine died at 1100 rounds or so and had to be sent back for a "warranty" where they re-did the headspace by just trying various parts bin bolts until the passed gauges as opposed to even working with an oversized front trunnion barrel pin because PSA aren't even real gunsmiths.

>>65452913
Super fucking inaccurate I didn't even both to try to get better groups because it was shooting no shit like 5 MOA.

>>65453212
>5.45x39 in 2026
Neither.

>>65453319
I want a milled Type 56 fixed stock bad.
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>>65427915
Assault weapons ban cases are heading to the Supreme Court and New Jersey and Virginia got injunctions you’ll be all right
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>>65452496
The polymer furniture wasn't introduced until after they stopped making underfolders so what do you think?
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>>65451027
>I shoot my guns
>but not that one because muh value
pick one, it's a gun just shoot it. I shoot the shit out of my Beryl. It's not like you can't find parts for it anyway, AoA gets more in a few times a year, Just stock up on wear parts.
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>>65454012
Childers is shit
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>>65454096
>polymer furniture started being produced in small/experimental batches beginning in 1973
>Underfolders were phased out of production in 1977
I'm not saying you're wrong, though.
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>Magpul GEN M3 mags
Could not get this mag inside of a wasr, bakelites, surplus steel, and even gen 2 mags work, any ever had issues with this mag entering?
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>>65454033
>>5.45x39 in 2026
>Neither.
Be the change that you want to see in the world, start up your own ammo manufacturing facility for 5.45x39 and 7.62x39 and price them competitively.
>inb4 why don't you do it yourself then?
I'm a brokie wagie and the only "gun" I shoot is an airsoft gbbr we tech ak-74 that I upgraded myself and it's pretty fun, but it's nowhere close to shooting the real deal
I load my own shots since it's cheaper and I use HDPE plastic from bottle caps and other sources for the jackets, so I guess it is alright, but it's basically the equivalent of knitting for men and I really want to completely automate it one day so I won't have to spend any time, only money on the singular use parts, like the gunpowder and primers
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>>65425487
It always seemed to me the ak safety would be good for lefties because they can easily work it and the charger with their support hand. I use my shooting hand to mess with the ak controls because the whole thing where you tip it sideways seems weird to me, but then Ive broken my grip.
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>>65454530
>where you tip it sideways seems weird to me
You flip it sideways to manipulate the safety? Or do you mean to reload? When you tilt it sideways to reload you have to tuck it in so it won't break grip.
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>>65427915
>this is not your grave, but you are welcome in it
WA-bros right here with you to the end

https://youtu.be/apK2jCrfnsk?list=RDapK2jCrfnsk
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>>65454033
stop buying PSA products and expecting them to act like real firearms
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>>65418168
i bought some steel mags and none of them fit in my wasr 10. i've read this is common and people recommend either filing away at the actual gun or just the mags. but which section do i file, the blue or the red? thanks.
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>>65455396
the back of the protruding tab with the blue circle
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>>65455396
>some steel mags
What steel mags specifically? And is this a newer WASR? Production year should be left side trunnion IIRC. I've never had a single problem with mine across ~5 countries of mags. My Saiga polymer mag didn't fit and that turned out to be the front lug extending all the way to the top of the mag which is very odd. Metal, never a single problem.

Also if these are random steel mags you bought locally, pics would help if they were unpackaged surplus/mystery mags. There's a lot of weird shit out there. Never go filing without an idea of what doesn't fit and why. And only take a little material at a time confirming that what you're doing is actively helping.
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>>65455405
>My Saiga polymer mag didn't fit and that turned out to be the front lug extending all the way to the top of the mag which is very odd.

newfags i sware
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>>65455405
they're croatian steel mags, and the rifle was produced in 2020. right now the only mags it fits are pmags, us palm mags, and xtech tactical mags. when i insert the steel mag in here it either doesn't lock into place, or it engages with the lock but doesn't securely set in place and it just falls out, plus it probably wouldn't feed from that position anyway.
>>65455401
thanks, I'll do some experimentation with one when there's time.
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>>65455428
try to buy surplus romanian and polish steel magazines, even in okay condition they are some of the best
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>>65455428
>Croatian steel mags
Ah, that's why. Sorry you didn't see this somewhere before, but croatian mags are dumpster fodder, avoid korean mags too. You could try to file the back of the mags where your blue circle is where the metal meets the mag catch when you slowly insert the mag
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>>65455484
i fucking hate coreans
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>>65455487
based bones enjoyer
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>>65454033
>Do not buy a 102
I have seen you warn other in the past and I have listened, however I have plenty of rifles and am willing to waste 650 on the stripped psa 102
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How's the Izhmash 6L31 60-round magazine?
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>>65455169
>Palmetto State Armory
>Armory
PSA presents themselves as selling actual guns. The issue is with them being liars.

>>65455396
Generally blue. Go slow.

>>65455763
It will just break. PSA sells trash toys.
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>>65456159
and yet you keep buying their shitty products insisting that this time will be different, very compelling
>>65455763
>still using flatback rivets on their aks instead of swell neck
have fun with a 650 dollar paper weight
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>>65455414
Well anon I've been here browsing /k/ like 15 years but I've only gotten an AK in the past 5 so I kinda missed the Saiga boat and all the knowledge that went with that era. I know more about 70s-90s AK stuff, really.
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>>65455490
Is that a clone bakelite foregrip, where you get it from?
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>>65455904
Like all coffins mags, they are heavy, I remember reading about I think it was pufguns coffin mags breaking at locking lug because it was heavy.
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>>65455904
Expensive and fairly unobtainable.
Also kind of unreliable because of the butterfly follower, which is part of why it was never officially adopted.
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>>65454948
No I don't do the sideways tip at all because it feels odd to me (at least the handful of times I tried it). I just leave it in my shoulder with my support hand where it usually is and mess with the safety and charging handle with my shooting hand.
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>>65454948
Sorry I guess I didn't answer your question and I was conflating the two. For the safety I always just do that with my shooting hand (right)
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>>65456725
yeah it's a reproduction, was either 3D printed or wood I couldn't tell but it was a REALLY good reproduction. Could hardly tell even when it's in your hand. Came with my WASR
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>>65456642
yea he says not to buy it but posts a sexy psa 102 like im not gonna buy it
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>>65458271
buy an airsoft toy if you only care how it looks
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>>65459244
Why buy a toy that shoots bb's when I can buy one that shoots bullet?
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>>65459614
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB54bnt1PqQ
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>>65460290
Lmao, the guy is a dipshit. You can get arrested for shooting airsoft at people or property. Also, decent airsoft guns can cost as much as real guns. And no, the cheap shitty single shot airsofy guns at walmart are not good. I remember returning a colt m4 airshit gun after it broke in a week, same with my deagle from big 5. Real men play paint ball, because that shit actually hurts when you get shot if you're not wearing thick clothing.
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>>65460331
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>>65460349
I don't watch cape shit.
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>>65456159
can you get a good cheek weld with that sight
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>>65460395
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How bad is the Wolverine on a 5.45 in current year? I keep going back and forth between the Zastava can, the Wolverine, or just trying to form 1 a PBS clone. I know they are louder and gassier but the Zastava can just looks too modern and 3d printed to me.
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>>65460645
>5.45
>2026
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>>65460636
I know enough that is newest batman goyslop. Not interested.
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>>65460699
I have access to cheap enough Tela and find good deals on 7n6 cans all the time. Anyways I already have the rifle and the ammo, I’m just worried if between the relatively low sound reduction and the high back pressure of the Wolverine that I’ll be disappointed.
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Do people still go crazy over Arsenal? Have a Sam7r that I'm debating selling since I no longer care abiut AKs. If I wont get a decent bit then I might as well keep it for the novelty.
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>>65462006
I like milled AKs, but everybody else seems to hate them. I sold a SAM7SF for a little over half what I paid for it and I don't really care. I'm trying to find an SGL21 instead. You should try to get at least 60-70% of what you paid for it.
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Is it worth to do AK12 builds these days? Would it just be better to get a AK74
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>>65463188
How about a 100 series? I heard the Iglim kits are somewhat solid.
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what the quality difference zastava and arsenal ak
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>bought my first AK
>rocking back a magazine
>racking the charging handle
>dat underfolder stock
I didn't realize working an AK was so satisfying, I'm kicking myself for not having bought one ages ago
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>>65463325
They are both solid, neither accept standard AK pattern furniture so you are limited to what you can change out. The grips are standard. They both have solid track records, both use by militaries at some point, Zastava has better customer service.
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That incomplete feel when broke the pattern and bought a Winchester bolt-action instead of Kalashnikov in. 308.
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>>65463560
How tall are you, knuckle dragger?
Too tacticool for my tastes but nice 030.
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>>65457049
How unreliable are we talking about?
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>>65460699
>he missed the boat
lmao
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>>65463727
You'd have to as the Russian Ministy of Defense or whoever does their qualifications on what is or isn't "accepted" for full production based on failure rates.
For the 5.45 it seems more accepted, since there's no real solution to a drum for it. (Besides the pan drum, the belt fed mech, and polymer RPK-16 drum)
The only casket mag I have personally fucked with is one of the AC Unity ones, and its a little finicky sometimes.
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>>65463844
>You'd have to as
*ask
Fuck. Anyway here's the belt fed mech.
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>>65463844
That's a shame. I personally think it looks good on the 74U. The 45 round RPK mag looks ridiculous on it.
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>>65418169
We need feg added to rifles guide pretty plz

>>65427792
Have Hungarian 30rd ones, can confirm this isn't feg
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>>65449242
>Should I sell my Beryl and get a MDC-101 once they have been on the market for a bit of time. I like the Beryl and all, but is kind of always been a cope for me. I have always loved the 100 series.
I know a guy who missed out on the Beryl and would happily do a straight trade with you. His Meridian shoots like 8 MOA and has had tons of reliability issues but its got a LIFETIME WARRANTY which the Beryl clearly lacks. What is your email address? I'll get you in touch with him.
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Doesn't seems so bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOtIF4g1vY8
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>>65463844
Are drum mags any good? They look sexo compared to AR drums.
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>>65465091
>Chimps vid from 4 years ago
How do I not remember him getting this?
Guess he had already stopped posting here by then or I just blanked.
Neat.
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>>65465117
>Are drum mags any good?
Some of them are better than others, but generally speaking, all of them are bad compared to box mags.
Both in terms of reliability, and in terms of how fucking heavy and awkward they are to carry around.
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>>65465117
Good, yes.
Worth their current prices, fuck no.
Rear loaders are ok, but more prone to user error (usually under-winding)
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I bought the shorter zenitco B-19/B-10M handguards for use with the B-33 dust cover rail because I thought that it would be smart to save on weight with the shorter versions. But I'm now regretting not getting the longer B-30 handguard. Was getting the B-19/B-10M a mistake?
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>>65465317
>bought zenitco
When/where? Last time I did that fucking niggers at US customs seized it
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>>65465389
I bought them from Ivan's last shipment before the sanctions.
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>got a dd block 2 m4a1
>it mogs all my aks
bros.....
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>>65465531
Mogs how exactly?
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>>65465531
You going to post these AKs that you definitely have?
I'm curious to see what a basic bitch m4gery "mogs".
>inb4 muh SOPMOD isn't basic
It is and so are you.
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>>65465574
ergos, weight, trigger, modularity right off the bat. Honestly I havent even shot it yet but I have a bad feeling that I'm gonna like it.
>>65465642
baited
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>>65465669
ARs are great in that regard. Considering how the AK is universal in the 3rd world its odd that its so difficult to work on as an individual. Or maybe it's odd the gun is so popular despite that
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>>65465690
I mean as a stock gun I think the basic AK is better than the basic M16(or g3 or FAL etc.) in terms of how easy it is to keep working. The idea of a gun being modular enough that an individual can customize it really wasnt even a thing until the 2000s
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>>65465669
Trolling used to be a art.
So no AKs? K den.
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>>65465755
I've got a sam5, m85, draco, wbp jack, galil ace gen 1, and an m70ab2
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>>65465317
When I had the B-33 / B-30 combo on an SLR-106 it didn't even feel like an AK anymore. Felt like a really clunky heavy AR. If you AR your AK too much you'll eventually resent it (possibly). The most tacticool I'd go on the front end is the Russian railed polymer or the B-10M personally.
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>>65465795
Maybe you were right. Those all suck ;^)
>Post AB2 pls
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>>65465979
I like all of them except the draco(way out of spec)
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>>65466023
Nice AB2. Thanks.
>Out of spec draco
Besides missing the stock, in what way? Does it shoot?
>Then it's in spec.
But seriously, how?
Also is this a full size draco or one of the mini/micro varieties?
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>>65466094
>Besides missing the stock, in what way? Does it shoot?
it is HORRIBLY canted like the entire upper assembly to the point I probably shouldnt even be shooting it ngl. It does work but sometimes doesnt cycle i think the bolt is like rubbing on the inside of the gas block.
I am happy about my new AR because I dont have to do anything to it lol.
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Are US Palm magazines any good?
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>>65466190
no
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>>65466094
That is an AIMR. There is no Century import currently that matches the gas system of what you have pictured, nevertheless the rear stock.
This parts kit can be built out to get close. It has the correct gas system length.
https://whatacountry.com/Romanian-AKM-47-PM-md-90-Commando-Side-Folding-Parts-Kit.aspx
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>>65466570
I must've missed where I said he could turn his draco into an AIMR, tripnigger.
It was just an example of a short romy with a stock, nothing more.
And technically a draco with that stock would still be considered an AIMR, since it was an export name not a military designation.
That designation being PM md 80, not a PM md 90.
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>>65467077
Lmao,
What rivet what reweld btfo.
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>>65466101
Pics now
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Besides the Zhukov, are there any other good adjustable stocks? I think it looks kinda dumb.
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>>65460331
Over a decade later and corporal Stryker is still kicking ass
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Soon(tm)
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>>65468596
Also, while I have both. The black one is an Azerbaijani trunnion and the gray one is Russian.
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>>65468632
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>>65468154
I really like the look of the surefire copies of ak12 stocks, there is also B5 stocks, if you are big balling you can always get zenitco or any of the ones inspired by it.
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>>65468919
Sorry not surefire I meant sureshot.
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>>65468632
>>65468596
Is the Russian one parkerized or stripped? Could be wrong but wouldn't it have been cheaper to buy a Iglim (Azerbaijani) parts kit and get a receiver and put the correct markings than converting a saiga? Also assuming you bought the saiga at current boomer prices.
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>>65468928
The Russian one appears to be in the white. It probably would have been cheaper but it wouldn’t be the same to me. Also, I had the Saiga before Iglim stuff started getting imported.
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>>65468154
4.5mm folding trunnion or fixed stock trunnion?
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dead thread
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>>65468596
Cool to see someone converting a Saiga in this day and age, trust me the clamp on handguard retainers need a lot of jerry rigging to work, it’s better to find someone who can properly convert it.
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>>65465669
What if you have to bash somebody's head with the stock
Id rather have a nice hardwood or lamianate club with a steel buttplate than some plastic sopmod pos
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I want a 5.56 AK desu. Should I get Arsenal? Galil?
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>>65471237
Wait on the Meridian 101s or 102s to come back in stock.
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>>65471510
>Just wait for overpriced 5MOA+ ameritrash
Lol. Lmao even.
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>>65471237
Beryl or Valmet
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>>65446233
Not that anon but the mags are good. It's going to come down to how ass your saiga/clone is.
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>impulse purchased a Century M-74 today
I guess I need to buy a field gauge before I shoot it.
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>>65471237
Beryl or Arsenal. Only get a Galil if you get a parts kit build from a reputable builder or if you find a limited edition ACE that uses the old school rock-and-lock magazines instead of AR mags.
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>>65465028
yourmomsbull@eatmyass.com
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What's cheaper, izhevsk side stamp mags or slabsides
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>>65473888
I think izzy side stamps are going for $150+ and slabsides about $90-110
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>Kalashnikov Concern has unveiled a new variant of the AK-12
>The changes include a thicker barrel wall and revised barrel design, an enlarged gas chamber profile adapted to the new barrel contour and replacing the muzzle device with a threaded muzzle to direct thread on a supressor.
>Main purpose is to act as another designated marksman rifle option for the Russian infantry squad.
thoughts?
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>>65474767
Needs a better buttstock to be a DMR. They should've ripped off the fagpul PR-DT or something. An 18 inch barrel wouldn't have hurt either.
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>>65441120
Not me. Unconverted is worth its weight in gold in ban states.
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>>65476594
Kill yourself.
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Has anyone turned their Beryl fire selector into an ambi safety? I'm thinking about chopping the sear dingus off and welding the selector axel to the safety lever so I can flip the safety with my thumb. I don't think there's enough meat on the axel to pin it or use a set screw.
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>>65427915
>>65428565
they should just ban every gun because why the fuck not
i dont wanna go to work
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>>65477829
Enjoy it while it lasts.
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>>65441120
>Everyone liked that
Holy fucking reddit lmao
And a big chungus updoot to you too
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>>65471889
>it swallowed a field gauge
That settles it. Childers or Recreator?
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>>65466570
Please just fucking stay out of these threads. No one wants you here. No one likes you. No one wants to see your fucked up AKs posted for the 600th time. You contribute literally nothing and most of all you're a fucking faggot.
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>>65418357

We don't mind at all, CHUCK.
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>>65418361
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>>65418313
That's really good anon! I'm proud of you!
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Day 67 of no Tort Tort availability. Kit will be here in a few weeks too. Any guesses on when there be another batch?
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>>65478546
>Childers or Recreator?
Neither? I'm confused why you would want to switch out the receiver because of the gauge giving a negative.
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>>65482094
Century didn’t dimple the river holes on the receivers or use swell neck rivets when they assembled the Bulgarian kits. Even if the rifle headspaced currently it wouldn’t for long. I’m going to have it rebuilt on a Bulgarian barrel and a Recreator receiver.
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>>65482166
>Century didn’t dimple the river holes on the receivers or use swell neck rivets
Got it, I personally would go with childers, their CS and quality is top notch, never had an issue with them.
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My Bulgarian 5.56 Krink finally came in.
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>>65482759
Very nice, you going to leave the furniture or change it?
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>>65482759
Nice.
>Lose the filter Ansel, this isn't Instagram.
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>>65482806
My bad I tried just reducing the size of the file without resizing the image on some website from my phone instead of doing it on my desktop.
>>65482796
It came with a Magpul MOE and an Ultimak, I actually ordered the top handguard, booster, pistol grip, and grip nut to restore it to this configuration.
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>>65475316
>DMR
they have the SChV-54 for that
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>>65482885
*SVCh-54
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>>65478546
Recreator has better markings IMO, I think Childers engravings look bad. Otherwise they're both pretty equal in terms of quality and occasionally having ridiculous non-communicated lead times.
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>>65482166
I understand how that would make the trunnion loose in the receiver, but I dont think that would do anything to headspace. Just pull the barrel, drill and re-rivet, and re-headspace. No new receiver needed
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The official new image of /akg/.
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>>65484992
What is this suppose to be? C39V2?
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>>65418168
Thinking of making my own little suchka from some of the recently imported parts kits. Whatcha think, keep it shrimple or go for something a little more unique?
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>>65485732
Do an underfolding stamped 5.56 Bulgarian Krink.
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>>65484992
all the different finishes are pissing me off more than they should
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>>65487016
for me it's no cleaning rod and she has the rifle on lowest power setting
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$415 for a spam can of 7n6, how'd I do bros?
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You guys said underfolders suck to shoot, but I shot one today and it wasn't unpleasant at all
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>>65487932
$0.38 per round is solid in the current market, you bought online?
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>>65418168
Still loving my PSA krink
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>>65488446
*explodes*
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I have an NHM-91 and a KUSA KR-103.

I recently visited the local fun store. They have an Arsenal AK with a milled receiver. And they have a S&W Model 27. I don't own a revolver.

Which would you choose?
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>>65488541
Always the ak assuming it’s not a sam5. If it’s a pre lock sw and not a modern run, it could be worth it. Whats the barrel length?
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>>65488581
I didn't check. I'll have to go back and take a closer look. I do know it's a 7.62x39 because if it wasn't I wouldn't be interested.
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Would a Primary Arms 5x prism be a good choice for an M77 or M90? If I get one what mount should I use? RS Regulate? Master Mount? And if I attach it to the Picatinny rather than the ACOG direct mount will the irons still be visible while it's mounted?
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>>65488678
Google exists. Your answer: Yes/No, Up, Up, Down, Down syndrome, Left, Right, Left, Right, Buy something else, A, Select your mount depending on gun, Start.
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>>65488530
About 4-5k rounds in suppressed still nothing
Only.clean the rifle twice
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New thread
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>>65488678
Someone said the 5x sucks and just to go with the 3x
>.t considering the same optic for my Beryl in 5.56



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