AK General /akg/Behold, A PKM Edition>Thread #2101Old thread here >>65418168
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What's a good scope mount to keep the scope lowish? I have a TWS Dog Leg Rail dust cover, XPS3 hasn't lost zero at all.Scope rings I have but was looking into one piece mounts like the ADM Recon
>>65490469>low scope mount>AKAnon, what the fuck are you even talking about?
>>65490477I shall make a poverty Vepr 308 reality!
Postan some RPK mags
I think this might be the final configuration of my SAM5, room for a magnifier and possibly a laser on the left side are the only other things I might do. Hate to remove the read tang but have to admit an AR stock would probably go hard
>>65491333You will regret removing the the rear tang someday, don't do it.
>>65491333I thought Sureshot, Bonesteel, and KPYK offered adaptors to fit an M4 tube to use AR stocks for that
>>65491333>>65492699https://www.bonesteelarms.com/product/collapsible-m4-style-folding-stock-2/
>>65492710huh interesting, no need to remove the tang I guess? Might try it, I honestly really like the look I have rn so dont feel the need tho
WHERE IS MY FUCKING AK SEND IT SEND IT NOW YOU CUNTS HOLY FUCK
>>65491333>>65492696They could just drill out the rivets on the bottom tang and use a j-mac adapter. keep the tang and buy new rivets and you can always switch it back as long as you dont cut off the top tang
Should I rape my sam7r with a bullpup kit
Here is my new AK15 setup. Managed to get a gen 2 diopter rear sight.
>>65493100
>>65492725Email them questions on fitment for your SAM5. I've seen people on the AK Forums use their stocks on other Arsenal AKsMinor fitment like smoothing down where it interfaces at the tang at the most is to be expected, as with anything on AKs but it should work fine
>>65493121Not really an AK guy but I would love a 15 because weeb reasons. Is that an actual 15 receiver? If so where'd you get the parts for it?
>>65493203There are civilian versions of the AK12/15/19 made by Kalashnikov that were sold in Europe before 2022, named TR3. Mine is from 2021. The only difference with the military version is the trigger group that does not allow full auto.
>>65493219>Europe Oh, damn. I wish KUSA was still alive
>>65493221I had a KUSA KR-103 before. It was trash : canted sight, flimsy selector, started to rust despite using non-corrosive ammo, and the firing pin locking pin kept falling out of the bolt. Never again.
I’m gonna mount an lpvo on my beryl
>>65493221>KUSAKUSA never received TDPs for the AK-12 platform, it was never going to happen.
>ywn capture AK-15 gen 3s and other AKs in Africa
>>65489185>>65488463Yo goodenoughgunner, 4-5k rounds through the krink? Shit man, I am gonna have to get one in regards to this new PSA GOA lawsuit and get the bitch suppressed.
>>65493744You can just go jihadi john and shit; laws arent real. Its not a good long term decision if you like living tho.
>>65493221Recreator is cloning rifle length and shorty AK12/15/19s. I'll post mine in a decade or two when they finally deliver.
>>65493744South Africa's Anti-Poaching Unit allows foreign volunteers, but only South African citizens are allowed to be armed and get paid.
>>65493121It baffles me that people spend money on these.
>>65493862yeah man i love the thing its my main gun, shoot the thing all the time 4-5k is all i remember but its probably higher than that. thing is awesome suppressed surprisingly quiet.buddy has his with the 3 pos ak frt gonna have him convert mine to to 3pos love the gun.overall i love it, got rid of the stock psa ak101 wasnt using it kept the side folder i made the first vids on, that thing is going strong as well.
>>65496614Fuckin sweet, I am wary of the psa 101's because of the supposed mix of akm and 74 mish mash of trunnions, but I am not paying 4.5k for a fucking parts kit when the psa krink is actually promising.
>>65493907Inshallah, anon! We will claim these rifles for glorious jihad!
So after about 2 years straight of consistently shooting only AKs as my main rifle I finally caved and bought a DD M4A1 and I have sadly come to the conclusion that it's just way better. In two range sessions I can already put shots on target faster and more accurately, and I can reload the damn thing a full like 1.5 seconds faster than I can my AKs. At this point I have decided to relegate all my AKs to range toy status which quite frankly is a bit of a relief since I have been trying to get one set up in a way that it can be my "SHTF go to" gun for a while and just havent found a configuration I really like. Not going to stop shooting my AKs but definitely going to put the majority of my training time into the M4. My two favorite AKs currently are my WBP Jack with literally nothing on it but a sling, and my M85 with only a red dot on it. Maybe if 7.62x39 was still 32cpr I would try and make AKs work as a go to gun but at this point everything about the AR platform is better and cheaper except the vibes. I think if I was going to suggest an AK for someone to try and kit out to be roughly AR equivalent it would be either the Galil or just get a WBP jack and a set of barwarus/zenitco furniture, had a pretty dogshit qc draco so I am hesitent to suggest the WASR at this point. Zastava m70/m90/m85 with SLR furniture I suppose could also be viable, but by the time you are done buying the gun and the furniture and the files and hammers youre gonna need to get it all fit you're looking at the price of a g$ AR.This really isnt an AK hate post, if anything I feel pretty good now because I can just get AKs to be range toys, like the PSA krink.
The lack of ak’s being posted is sad, anyways here’s my Saiga 5.45 sporter that was converted to an AK-105 pretending to be an AR-15
>>65496939Go buy a daniel defense branded tactical "high speed, low drag" dildo to go fuck yourself with before fucking off to /arg/, nigger faggot.
Just snagged pic related for $360, how’d I do? 4 NOS, unissued East German bakes, a cleaning kit, BFA, and the magazine pouch.
>>65496966What combo block did you use? I’ve got a 223 Saiga being converted to 101 spec now but I may form 1 it if I can find the right block.
>>65490342Is this a BRAK or an AKEN?
>>65497335You see son, when a Type 99 and a Type 56 love each other...
>>65497331I used an Arsenal comboblock because it was the only Chrome lined option I could find without spending $500 on a Russian one, and so far it’s been holding up pretty well.
>>65497356still a better love story than twilight
>>65497328I wouldn't pay more than $40 each for those magazines. I dont care what current year it is
>>65490342Picked up a barreled Romy kit from one of the recent drops, but don’t really feel like making a standard AK. Anyone know of a current-production bullpup kit for AKs or am I stuck with the 2nd hand market or building my own?
>>65497876Why? Bullpups are ass, and bullpup conversion of conventional rifles are even ass-er
>>65497881Because I want to. If I was into guns for uberpractical reasons, I wouldn’t be into AKs to begin with.
>>65497885Yeah but, even impractical guns can be cool or fun to shoot. >>65497876 is neither
>>65490342>>65497356>>65497369The Kalashnibren is Born.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dbxwA7c__8 [Embed]
>>65498025How will this help with winning his congressional race?
>>65497876There was that Groza kit for PSA Krinks you could try niggerrigging it to
>>65496966very nice
AK12 build
>>65498312Where did you get the parts kit and how much was it?
>>65498235He has zero chance of winning with gas over $4/gallon. He can go back to his trustfund and putting his name on shitty guns he had someone else build.
>>65499209>republician candidate in a rural district of texas>zero chance of winning
>>65499241>full of spics
>>65499253Spics can't vote
>>65499264>Spics can't vote
>>65499273Not in rural TexASS they can't, no.
How are Midwest Industries side rail mounts at maintaining zero? It seems impractical if I have to resight in my optic every time I choose to clean my gun.
>>65502041They are solid same with RS regulate
>>65497328Average considering current year. Looks like you got the stripper clips and guide too, so truly complete. I see these sets pop up from time to time and am often tempted. I already have a few NOS EG mags so I'm good and not really trying to buy any more mags right now. I honestly have too much shit but if you are just getting started thats a nice set for sure. What rifle do you have?
saw a used romarm/cugir wasr10 at the store for 750, impulse bought/put it on layawaynever held a wasr, theyre supposedly 7.5 pounds but that shit felt like 6. meanwhile my zpap92 feels like 10
>>65504366>ZPAP92 weight 6.6lbs>WASR10 weight 7.5lbsWas there a loaded 100 round drum in your ZPAP?
>>65504366>7.5 lbs> 10 lbsnone of it matters if you are stronger.
>>65505028my zpao92 unloaded is 8.2
>>65505213How? Unless this is your M92.That would explain the extra weight.My first AKs were Yugos, so I get it. First time I picked up an AKM I thought it was super light comparatively, too.
>>65505294i don't know. i didn't weigh the wasr at the shop but unloaded with an empty mag that thing felt lighter than an 11.5 AR. it had polymer funiture my zpap92 unloaded feels like a front heavy crowbar. idk how much the wasr REALLY weighed but it felt like 6lb vs my 10lb-feeling-8-8.5lb yugo.it was a ROMARCIGUR wasr10 with poolymer kit
>>65502041My T2 pattern one is solid and returns to zero after remounting.
How are WASR side mounts at retaining zero?
>>65505581As long as you don't cheap out, side mounts are sturdy if not sturdier than other option like dust cover, gas tube, rear sight mounting options.
>>65504366ZPAPs have heavier and thicker furniture than standard AKMs and the receiver is also 1.5mm instead of the standard 1.0mm on an AKM.
My wasr 10 and m70ab2. The m70 is an old century build assembled by the blind.
>>65507056Why does your wasr hand guard look pregnant?
>>65507131I dunno. I haven't replaced the furniture. Looks like a lot of 10/63s have the same set
>>65507224holy shit he looks gay even with the riflewhat are they putting in the russians water nowadays
>>65507391Russians are just now arriving to the GWOT era of punisher skulls being on everything
>>65507056your wasr has a pap 3hole handguard
>>65507257If you do replace the furniture SELL THEM TO ME I NEED WASR LAMINATE PLZZ
>>65508007I named them in the wrong order. The top is the m70ab2 and the bottom is the wasr 10/63
PSAK GF5/Sabre vs WASR/Yugo?
should i forgo my fixed stock wasr on layaway to get a side/UF?
Have they fixed AK12 or it still sucks? I read that soldiers still prefer AK74M than an AK12 2023.
I can get a 1k UF WASR that looks to be in very good like new condition or a used one in person that looks fine internally from the brief look I had for 750 but is fixed stock and ugly. Both are romarm. Thoughts?
>>65508528Underfolders objectively suck. Get the fixed stock. Who cares if ugly, is ak.
Is it an AK?
>>65508533I think the UF is hot but I guess it was also a question of condition. I have to go tomorrow to look at it more but it's a WASR so it should be indestructible regardless of cosmetic or even internal cosmetic condition right? I also read the UFs are a pain to replace so I can always put a wire on the fixed stock trunion, Wdyt? 750 vs 1k
>>65508528
>>65508533Thoughts on the Polish Tantal side folder wire stocks?
>>655085512nd worst out of the common military sidefolders. the egyptian ones are the worst.still better than any underfolder.
Is it worth $2k?https://centerfiresystems.com/products/arsenal-sam7uf-85-sam7uf-7-62x39mm-16-25-10-1-semi-auto-rifle?_pos=17&_sid=c0f526132&_ss=r
>>65508575What would be the best that fits on a fixed stock WASR? I don't like the gay modern ones that are blocky and plastic-y that look like they were ripped off a SCAR.
>>65508580uh for that spas ass top folder hell yeah if you dont buy it i will right now
>>65508585It's all yours dude, I might try to build one of those cetme c's
I need to stock up for life on AK ammo. What should I get? Half the reason I like AKs is the barrier penetration. Is the cheapest shittiest but reliable brass cased 123gr really all I need whether it's hunting or otherwise?
>>65508536there were improvements after 2016 model for sure, Valgear seemed to like the gen 2 and 12Khttps://youtu.be/WDwYwcxnbJkthe only problem is quality control, its a given since they're mass producing this rifle 2 or 3 times more than before the war
>>65508606it's a foxtrot mike 102https://store.fm-products.com/products/fm-products-16-102-zhukov-slap-mod-5397
>>65507056i love my yugo but i fucking hate the straight lined 3 hole hg
>>65508614oh shit, i replied to the wrong anon. im retardedi meant to reply to >>65508516
>>65508605Balkan ammoBelom, Igman, and PPU
>>65508583None. There is ONE good folding ak stock: the ak100. So unless you plan to rivet in a new rear trunnion just stick with the fixed stock.
>>65508583Bonesteel makes side folding M4 compatible stocksкpyк makes some high quality aftermarket furniture for AKs. Folding stocks being one of them
Anyone have any experience with Iglim rifles from Azerbaijan or the core parts was thinking of getting a PSAK-103 and then when it fails replacing it with Iglim core parts.
>>65509740They're good enough to win a war and correct the borders of their fucked up country (slightly). Iglim used to be sold as "Russian Standard" a year or two ago by Akstuff. I imagine Atlantic's inventory of Iglim stuff is a mix of NOS and new commercial production
>>65509759 I want a 101 and 103, but I think this is the only way to do it since my other option is meridian defense but idk if I want to spend $2k for a rifle that I will only shoot a handful times out of the year
>>65509740Should be noted; PSAK-103s are AKM spec. Might not be compatible with the IGLIM AK-100 parts.
>>65509912The core parts should cover anything that could break from PSA but I'd look deeper before buying any of this as>>65510133Pointed outhttps://atlanticfirearms.com/ak-103-762x39-core-parts-package-iglimhttps://atlanticfirearms.com/ak-100-series-furniture-set-iglim
The KUSA made KR-103s are the closest to AK-103 you'll find it seems from a standard production built rifle, albeit KUSA is now essentially defunct and they were never known for QC The alternative would be buying the parts kit, sourcing your own receiver, and gunsmiffing it. Which would put you easily into $2K+https://atlanticfirearms.com/iglim-ak-103-parts-kit
>>65496966>print-x on the 'gahhhhhmmmm based ngl
god damn wasrs are picky about what mags will lock in easily
>>65510133If it’s AKM spec then I could get a AKM parts to put it in.
Okay I got the WASR today.Fittings the mags is finnicky and the mag release is stiff and it fumbles rock and locks a lot, but goddamn, does it handle nice with the full polymer furniture.Put that shit at 200 meters just like my pap92 and it hits point of aim. None of my damn ARs can do POA POI within 50 yards but both my AKs do.I think now all I need is some custom furniture. Maybe wood with mlok slots for a light and my WASR will be my main yard gun.
>>65510794>None of my damn ARs can do POA POI within 50 yardsWhat kind of psa trash are you running
>>65510827SR15s with china dots
I don't know why the WASR handles so much better than the PAP since they're both front heavy but it just does. I figure even with the Zastavas being heavier I'd get some weight savings in a 10" barrel but the 16" actually feels better.Now I just need a way to put a light on the WASR. Any suggestions besides a custom handguard? I don't want ugly modern alum MLOK or picitanny.
>>65510837AK9 handguard, if you can find one.You can always just graft a small section of rail on your current polymer hg, if the AK9 is unobtainable.
>>65511060How about a Midwest Safety light and laser mount? I think it mounts to the barrel so Idk if that's a concern for shifting POI.I don't feel like spending 2-300 on custom furniture just yet, I just want a quick light solution since this is gonna be my main shit (until I finally professionally zero my AR at least)
>>65511117>How about a Midwest Industry light and laser mount?Looks kinda clunky, but sure.If you don't care about mounting your light to the barrel, this is less expensive and a smaller footprint.https://khybercustoms.com/bc47-bc70-light-mount/This is also smaller, but requires you to drill your handguard.https://echo93.com/mk65-light-mount/
>>65511163I don't know if I care or not, it'll be a temporary solution until I get custom mlok wood grips. How bad will it shift POI?Also picrel, this is the muzzle device my WASR came with. No idea what it is but it suppresses flash very well.
>>655112073 slot on each side 2 holes on top It's quite attractive but Idk if this is aftermarket or not.
>>65511207>How bad will it shift POI?Couldn't say. Might not do anything, might throw it way off. Kind of a "gotta do it to find out" situations.>>65511210>Idk if this is aftermarket or not.It is. Not familiar with that exact device but if it's not a slant or a muzzle nut, it's aftermarket.>after looking, it appears to be a DA Fighter brakeGet a cleaning rod while you're shopping for a flashlight mount.Mokas got one for $10, shipping is probably gonna be rape though.No worse than Arsenal wanting $37+shipping for one.https://mokasraifus.com/product/romanian-akm-cleaning-rod/Enjoy the WASR.
>>65511311Yeah I looked it up, Fighter Brake. Performs very well at flash and I don't notice much recoil in the first place. Furniture is AK74 polymer. So the previous owner played with it a little. >cleaning rodJust for the aesthetics?Do you have any recommendations for maybe replacing or smoothing out the safety selector? I'd like an extended mag release paddle too. Thing is fucking stiff as hell and a bit short but looks like it'd be a pain to replace.>enjoyOh I love it. No idea why it feels so much nicer in handling than my PAP92, almost gives me buyer's remorse but the PAP has a lot of lovely quality of life quirks and is sexy. It's just heavier than I thought.
ok guys i have 1k. should i look for a wasr or get a psak gf3/5? ive heard wasrs have shitty ergonomics with stuff like CH, safety and mags but they last 50k+ rounds. has anyone done a 10k burndown on a PSAK?
Any weapon light suggestions that would fit well on a MLOK sharkfin/dong like this?
>>65511361jugo jugo jugo kuco moja jedina. Other than a Wasr, Zastava ak is good to go. PSA cheap pot metal and is gonna give you problems / explode well before 10k rounds. Robski at AKOU did a 5000 round torture test on the yugo and not a single failure.
how do yall feel about the ks12
>>65511361>shitty ergonomicspsa and wasr will have exact same ergos except the $30 safety, just get the wasr>>65511706no issues its a saiga clone
>>65511361get a wbp
>>65511361Just get the fucking wasr anon
>>65511361>WBPsuper nice, everything will be straight and well finished attention to detail. Commercially made so it might not last as long as the WASR, it's up for debate but it's made right>WASRMade in a military factory so probably the longest lasting, but might have crooked sights, or fucked magwell, or something warped because their quality control isn't as good sometimes but has gotten better>PSAWill probably work just fine, but definitely won't last as long as the other two. Important parts aren't made right but the sights will be straight and the magwell will work. Won't hold its value over the imports. Only get this if its half the price of the others>t. has all three, this should just be added to the sticky
>>65511117>>65511060Check this one out https://gibbousoutfitters.com/products/ak-modbutton-m-lok-upper-handguard
>>65511720what about the shitty magwell/release?
>>65512215It's perfect
>>65510794I think you should use that new WASR to dome yourself, zoom zoom.
>>65510837Khyber Customs
>>65512315Remember the one's mention earlier are I would say better such as the little arm pic rail, because you would have less barrel/can shadow, on average length with or not can the shadow is going to be horrible. Sp you could get the handguard I linked along side a arm extension.
>>65512375I'm 30, CHUD.
>>65512026do WBPs need fucking with to take mags smoothly?
Should I drill out the mag release paddle on my WASR and get an aftermarket or what can I do to make it loosen up? It's extremely tight even with no mag.
>>65512309Wasr magwells are fine.If you can't handle a standard release lever you should consider killing yourself instead.
>>65512494Make me Chud.
>>65512487Use it more, do some dry firing, practice reloading, after all doing all that see if you still want to change it to an aftermarket one.
I found some generic Russian ammo at the gun store. They had Wolf Military Classic and Polyformance along with this Russian HP. What should I get more of?
>>65512996
>>65512996I like Wolf the most.Will never use Tulammo again, too many squibs to be coincidence.
>>65513055So should I pick up the Military Classic or Polyformance over the generic Rus HP?
>>65513100I would get the classic, but that's just my preference for FMJ speaking.
>>65512996>>65513000What's the headstanp on that HP?I'd personally just buy all of it since Russian Ammo is no more, but depending on who made it, maybe prioritize the HP over Wolf. >it's probably all Barnaul anyway
>>65512468No, the magwell on those are perfect
>>65513273Not sure, any clue?
>>65513273They had two bricks left I asked them to hold for me. I think it was 100 a brick for probably around 100-200 rounds idr exactly but there were 20 to a box and I got 2 to sample.
>>65513273Gimme dat sweet Egyptian brass
>>65513505>>65513273jewgle AI says it's a ram's head for Ulyanovsk Machinery Plant but Idk.
>>65513505Oh nice. That's a Klimovsk headstamp.It's basically going to be 8HP, since they only did 2 variants of HP loadings.I'd buy that first.
>>65513578Is it quality ammo or not? I heard generic Russian HP are basically just FMJs because the coating is too hard. I was hoping to find some 8M3...
>>65513584I shot 5 rounds of it and I think it hits slightly lower than the Igman 123gr brass case that the other store stocks almost exclusively over any other brand. They're a bigger store with way more guns than the one I went to today but the one I got this Russian ammo at had Bulgarian mags and Wolf, so....I think I should save some of the cheap Igman 123gr because they are very accurate in my M92 and WASR and I heard they're particularly hot high pressure loads.I really want some good but cheap HPs, I'm willing to compromise on the cheap part if I can get some Russian magic like 8M3 but I'm wondering if I should just get a huge case of the Igman 123gr for barriers and because it works and it's cheap.
>>65513584>Is it quality ammo or not?It's probably 35 years old, so i guess that would depend on its storage over the decades. But the projectile is almost identical to the 8HP iirc, so if you want to know how well it'll perform, Google that.Like I said, I'd get that first.
>>65513654Google is fucking worthless it just told me it's the parent of 8M3 and behaves mostly like FMJ.Here's a coke can I just put 3 rounds at. 2 from 50 yards, missed but very nearby, close enough to dent it and launch it into the air, then one round at 25 where I hit and put 4 holes in it. I was positive I had only hit it with one bullet so it seems to behave like a soft point more than an FMJ. There were little sharpnel holes on the other side too.I'll pick those cases up when I can then I guess.What are your thoughts on Prvi Partisan 123g SP round nose?
>>65513692Top right looks like the entry. I had to walk 20 feet or so to find the can in the middle of the road.Seems pretty good to me!
since there's no more 8m3 imports, is there anything in the US that equals or exceeds its rape powers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQlPvxmfJo0PSA bros our time is now.
>>65513726cokeman is a fag he deleted all his amazing classics like shooting his bathroom floor and the why has god allowed this video
>>65513721Hornady SST 7.62x39 maybe?
>>65513792Well what is /akg/ packing as their primo lead?
>>65512215>>65512459Upon looking at that top mlok handguard I realized I'd need a 200 dollar surefire plus 70 buck cap plus 70 buck modlite modbuttonsI didn't know it was such a pain in the fucking ass to get an ergonomic light mount on a classic style handguard.
>>65514091Telaammo and Golden Tiger
>>655140917.62x39 is my favorite cartridge to shoot, but modern bonded "law enforcement" style ammo is nonexistent for it in the USA at least. I don't use regular old Wolf or Global Ordinance steel case ammo for defense. I have to consneed that 5.56 > 7.62x39 for defensive purposes due to ammo selection alone. Honestly I might try to eventually snag a Meridian 102 for this reason.
Can anyone help with identifying this muzzle brake or whatever this thing is? I went to a gun shop to see what they have, a few of these midget zastava "rifles" (m05c1/2 I think) caught my eye because of this weird krink like muzzle device on them, I asked the guy if they sell them separately he said no, asked him what kind it is, he has no clue. I already have the normal zastava M05 and would like to have this thing instead of M16 style flash hider but have no clue if it's gonna fit my M14x1 LH thread. I'm Eastern Euro, not in USA so I don't know about availability of different parts over here and over there. How hard would it be to have a shop machine this thing as single piece with a fitting thread? Doesn't seem too complex of a job
>>65514671Forgot to say all of them including mine are 7.62x39 and I don't really care about performance or anything recoil isn't hard on these guns, it's mainly the fact that it looks cool and I want it lol
>>65514622Do you think that it’s a big enough difference to matter? I suppose even if it didn’t 5.56 would still be lighter overall but personally I enjoy how similar 7.62x39 (and to a lesser degree 5.45) options are across the board. There’s an impulse to aggressively minmax in gun culture today but I wonder how much any of it really matters.
>>65508497>>65508533
>>65514622There are soft point and HP 7.62s aren't there?Honestly the entire appeal of 7.62 to me is it'll go through doors.
>>65514711There's 7.62X39 huntin' rounds so yeah
>>65514716I mean if they work to hunt they work on people right? Probably not some massive loss in effectiveness with a 7.62 hunting round vs mk262 5.56. Plus what if you have to shoot through a door? That Igman might come in handy.
>>65514692>>65514711My main concern is shooting through things like auto bodies and windshield glass that would shred regular steelcase range ammo and soft points. This is why bonded LE ammo is preferred. If you only think of using your firearm in terms of "home defense" then you are not preparing for every possible scenario where you might need an AK with 30 rounds on tap.https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2099947798531637248/vid/avc1/720x1280/pt6PPBBtcyNJi38P.mp4
>>65514671>>65514688That's an AKS74U "booster" not a muzzle brake, it's intended to compensate for the short range of movement of the piston on midget AKs, I don't think it's gonna do anything on a normal sized rifle, in the best case Pretty sure machinists could make a fake muzzle device that has a 14x1 thread and a straight hole through it for decorative purposes, not sure if it's better than the 74 style brake or the glorious slant brake though
>>65514763What would you use in x39 then? 30 30 cals through a windshield is still pretty bad to get hit with
>>65515040There's nothing on the US market in 7.62x39 like Speer Gold Dot or Federal Tactical Bonded Tip that they make for 5.56 and 308.>>65515040True but it still causes the projectile to fragment. There was an incident a while back of a cop who got shot in the head by an AK through his car's windshield but survived.https://www.police1.com/survival-stories/police-officer-shot-in-the-head-saved-by-a-lesson-he-taught-weeks-earlier
>>65508533Underfolders (specifically straight ones) are my favorite AK stock, second being Romanian wire side folder. Traditional fixed stocks are too short for my liking.
>>65514128I found another one that might suit you better https://www.titantacticaldesigns.com/product/ak-barrel-clamp-scout-inline-flashlight-picatinny-mount their stuff is solid.
>>65515136Do civvies even have access to the AP cop killer shit in 5.56 here? If not why not go x39?
>>65515877Yes but you have to be loaded https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1204866330
>>65516577>full 30 round mag costs $3000
Anons, how do you ship your receivers and kits to the builders? Do you have an FFL ship it or do you just lie to UPS or FedEx? I’m asking after the fact, I told FedEx that it was part of a treadle hammer lol
>>65516698Never tell the postal Jews what’s really inside your packages. This is just basic principle. Even if it’s some actual innocuous shit like mittens.
>>65516935Tyrone working the counter at the shipping office asked. I shipped it in a Zastava box covered in brown paper so no logos were showing so I think he suspected that it was a gun. He bought the “treadle hammer parts” story though.
>>65516971I just say “curtain rods” whenever they ask.
>>65516577It's cheaper to just buy a cannon and some grapeshot if you want a "copkiller". TALLYHO!!!
>>65516698Just ship in a box that doesn't scream this is a gun and lie. I made the mistake of taking a pelican case into USPS and telling them it was a gun and it caused a 45 minute long back and forth between whether I was able to ship it or not.
>>65516971I look like a fukken nerd so I'll say something like "antique clock parts" and they'll believe me
>>65516971DildosAlways dildos. No one asks beyond that or dares to look deeper.
AK-12K
Kind of want to replace the East German gas block on my WASR just cus it looks less nice than the OG style
>>65516577>>65516673>89 bucks a round
So is Century using old pictures for their new WASRs?https://www.centuryarms.com/wasr.htmlCus mine has the transitional cast East German gas block and it's a newer model and newer models apparently have these but they're using pics with the sexier milled ones.https://www.centuryarms.com/wasr.html
how much is a like new 10/63 and a like new older N70 worth?
>>65517747yeah, seems like they're using old pics
>>65517846both around $1k
Why can't you buy a WASR anywhere? They've been out of stock for months besides private market gunbroker type shit
Should I get a SAM7R or maybe a WBP?I want a more "AK" AK since all I have is a WASR and that doesn't even have the dimpleAlso I have been thinking about getting a second AK anywayStill love my WASR but I'm too much of a pussy to shoot it because I hate stocking up on ammo
>>65519068WBP is the closest to a proper AKM you can get
>>65519070wasrs and norincos are literally akms you chud.
>>65519237Good luck getting new production Norincos. CHYNA BAD WASRs? So simple, they have no dimple.
>>65516673>>65517623Just don’t be poor bro.
>>6551927980 bucks a round or 30 bucks for 45 in a mag to dump into a windshield and a plate, what's more realistic?
>>6551929980 bucks a round paid entirely by your tax dollars by Private Gomez and Sergeant Wakanda on their way to enforce the State's rights to enforce gender affirming care on your son because their teacher said "idk, I just get trans egg vibes from them"
>>65519322Honestly though? For all the debate about projectile effectiveness against vehicles and armor, I think 30 cals through the door at pelvis height are "good enough". Who's running around with crotch plates? If Buffalo Bore .380+p hardcasts can break a hip and go vertical through the heart and stop in the shoulder a couple 30 cals where you piss and shit will probably have some winding up in the spine and big toes.
the 123gr fmj "meme" is unironically absolutely correct thougheverthere are plenty anecdotes of people being hit in the head from all kinds of 5.56 and 9mm rounds popular in the us and surviving so that just means you need to dump more. a barrage of the humble fmj is nasty.
>>65519015I think 850-9 is a fair offer then.
>>65512467So a zoomer?
>>65519373Zoomers are 94-95, but at this point you're basically saying "I'm 55 and dying, heh."
>>65519352yeah
ID on AKs from recent Iran rally? I notice one is a spiker, wasn't aware the chinese sold them AKs.
>>65520368
>>65519350>there are plenty anecdotes of people being hit in the head from all kinds of 5.56 and 9mm rounds popular in the us and survivingYes because 5.56 and 9mm are actually shit but everyone uses them because they're cheap. FBI uses Federal Premium's 64-grain Premium Tactical Bonded in their 11.5" SBRs so take that for what you will. Personally I like 7.62x39 better than 5.56 but no premium barrier-blind law enforcement ammo exists for it in this country.
>>65520368Top and bottom left: all north koreanBottom right: chinese, east german, east german
>>65519068Build a type 3
>>65520412>Bottom right: chinese, east german, east germanThe spike and the east german furniture I get it>Top and bottom left: all north koreanWhat is the tell-tale sign of it being a nork? The weird gas block?
>>65512026>be me>want either traditional looking ak74 with wood handguards and stock or wood handguards and triangle stock >7n6 is kill>commercial stuff>costs more than 5.56Why is life so cruel?
>>65521504Get a AK74, re-barrel it to 556, when 545 becomes cheap again (cope) just change it back to 545 barrel, and the cool thing with 545 mags can be easily converted to 556
>>65521504Just take the tranny 5.56 AK-74 pill anon, it's great.
>>65521542>>65521567>get an ak in 5.56That makes about as much sense as getting an ar in 5.45 or 7.62x39.
>>65521570If you’re a giant fucking retard with zero critical thinking skills I can understand why you’d think that.
>>65521570>That makes about as much sense as getting an ar in 5.45Believe it or not but there was a time where people would get an AR upper to shoot 545 to practice shooting since it had similar ballistics to 556 and was cheaper to shoot. Anon I would get a 74 now before they are no longer available to purchase, parts kit have gone up and keep going up.
>>65521570Beryl!
>>65521782Cmmg mutant! I said I wanted an ak74. In one of the two configurations mentioned.
>>65521791Wood handguards existYou can swap over Tantal furnitureIT'S SO EASY, BRANDON HERRERA CAN DO IT!
Shoot your ak on mephedrone for true slav experience. Recoil feels like an prostate orgasm in your shoulder.
>>65521570holy shit you're actually retarded
>>65521570You have to be a noshoots if the concept of ammo availability and cost doesn't even enter your thought process.
>>65521980Which js exactly why I dont have an ak74 and my sam7 just collects dust.Ar15's are just the unfortunate reality until this war in ukraine stops soaking up all the ammo from the soviet satellites.
>>65521570You get exactly five seconds to think about what you posted and why it was stupid before you deserve to be branded as a FAS baby or life
>>65522126>ak guys get this upset that a 5.56 ak doesn't make sense when there is a 5.56 caliber rifle with an entire ecosystem around it Again, it makes as much sense as buying an ar in 7.62x39 or 5.45 in today's market.
>65522209You're doing a bit, because there's no way someone in a fucking AK general wouldn't understand why someone would want an AK. Try harder.
>>65522255I literally said I wanted an ak in 5.45. You suggested I get one in a caliber I >didn't want my ak in >suggested a caliber that another rifle has an entire ecosystem around. Reading comprehension isn't your strongest skill, is it?
>>65521570I guess if you're a drooling mouthbreather, yeah sure I guess it doesn't make sense.
>>65522023>>65521980Is ammo availability actually that bad for you guys? Where I’m at there’s a steady stream of Tela and Wolf without even counting the deals on 7n6 tins that pop up on local classifieds all the time. It’s not cheap compared to 5.56 but it’s not vastly more expensive than .300 BO and still cheaper than .308.
>>65522986if you do any real amount of shooting $0.60+ a pop for imported steel-case intermediate .22 with mediocre consistency is pretty ridiculous
>>65523018People are only upset because anon said he wanted an ak74. People then suggested he gets a non ak74. Anon then says if he wanted a non ak74 he would just get the non ak74. >/akg/ spergs and goes into cope mode.
>>65523018It’s not ideal but I wouldn’t say everybody who primarily shoots .300 BO or battle rifles are not shooting “for real”. The AK market is already such that if you’re still buying new AKs you’re paying more than you could be if you chose a comparable quality AR in 5.56, I don’t see why everyone would be so upset someone is willing to pay a little bit more to shoot something they like better.
>>65523029why are you replying to me with this drama crap? that really has nothing to do with what I'm saying about ammo costs. >>65523071plenty of people shoot AKs in matches, plenty of people also expend hundreds of rounds per range session, myself included. intermediate caliber firearms are ideal for both of these due to their mechanical characteristics (accuracy and power in a low weight, compact platform with minimal recoil) and the (usually) relatively low cost in ready availability of the ammunition. 5.45 violates both availability and cost principles for the ammunition aspect in this regard, making it a hard sell for lots of people, ergo, they go for a similar performing, cheaper, and universally available around. it's not exactly complicated.
>>65523029Why are you sockpuppetting while being this blatant? You said you wanted an AK-74 but couldn't get one because of how much 5.45 cost. People gave you an alternative of you could have all the look and feel and performance of an AK-74 while still being able to shoot it since you could actually afford the ammo for it You then somehow get confused at these suggestions and say it's pointless and 5.56 AKs shouldn't exist and then you, naturally, get called an asinine retard. Either put up with the cost and get one, take the suggestion and get one, or just don't get one and pound sand. Prick.
>>65523159I never said I couldn't. It just doesn't make sense anymore to get one. Why would I get an ak in 5.56 when the ar15 exists, I have 3 of them, and plenty of magazines for it and all of the other support equipment? I have an arsenal milled gun that mostly collects dust in this day and age for the same reason. Ak rifles are boutiqu guns in this day and age, unfortunately. Them being cheap to blast all day was their selling point. With that gone they lost their biggest appeal factor. Realistically the only hope for the ak to meaningfully survive in the US market is for the war in ukraine to end and the former ussr countries start pumping ammo into the market again. With the way most of them have seemingly moved away from the ak themselves, this is wishful thinking.
>>65523144I’m not at all questioning why someone would go for 5.56, that much is obvious. My point is that 5.45 is not particularly unavailable and not particularly expensive relative to other calibers. I don’t understand why anybody sees getting a 74 because you want a 74 so ridiculous.
>>65523196>Why would I get an ak in 5.56 when the ar15 existsAre you pretending to be retarded? Because you want an AK, obviously. Are you wanting to shoot a gun or be married to a caliber for the sake of it. Just shut up and cry about not being able to afford 5.45 in silence, don't force your idiocy on the rest of us.
I can get new brass cased 7.62x51MM / .308 Winchester in M80 spec cheaper than 5.45x39 most days. What a looney world
>>65523217If I already have guns in 5.56 that arent ak's, why would I buy an ak in 5.56? The same reason I wouldn't buy a cmmg mutant if I wanted to shoot 7.62x39. I already have something that accomplished that goal much more optimally. Look at it like this. >hi anon. I want an m16a1. 5.56 is just isn't worth the price >just get a cmmg mutant in 7.62x39 and change out the furniture bro!>b-but I already have an ak that shoots that.You can get it in your ar too!>b-but I want a 5.56 rifle that is like an m16a1...Lol prick!
>>65523265Got it, you're autistic and married to a caliber you can't afford and won't go for a similar, cheaper option that won't even alter the rifle you want outside of bore diameter and bolt face.Have fun not shooting anon!
>>65523277>married to caliber you cant afford >has guns in other calibers >wanting to pay more for bottom of the barrel steel case ammunition >wanting calibers with sporadic availability >I want an ak74. >I dont want a 5.56 ak>I want an ak47>I dont want an sks in an aftermarket stock>I dont want an an ar15 that takes ak47 magazines >I want an m1a>not a mini 14 in .300blk>I want a glock 17>not a psa dagger>I want an ar15>not a mini 14Why is that so hard for you to grasp?I'll have fun shooting my ar15's.
>>65523388Stop bitching about the price of ammo and just get the AK-74. Yes, accept we're far past the prime days of cheapo Eastern euro slav jank and accessories because the vodka niggers are acting like vodka niggers once more, which means accepting elevated prices for mediocre surplus slavshit ammo or new production commercial ammo in a caliber solely adopted by one major country not known for making good decisions in history in the geopolitical landscape; to the detriment of the entire world
none of you guys "shoot"
>>65523265>I already have guns in 5.56 that arent ak's, why would I buy an ak in 5.56what kind of weirdass rationality is this? the guns aren't identical at all, even if they're in the same caliber
>>65523483Because the ammo stopped being imported and not even ak people are willing to pay for it.
>>65523591He's an idiot, just let him be miserable
>>65523591See>>65523388>I want a glockBuy a psa dagger!>I dont want a dagger. I want a glock. Lol just get the dagger bro>b-but I want an glock. If there isn't one available I'm fine with not buying one and just enjoying the 92fs I already have.
>>65523215>My point is that 5.45 is not particularly unavailable and not particularly expensive relative to other calibers.Yeah and those "other calibers" are full-powered and/or niche and if you actually shot you'd understand why that's a tiny bit problematic.
I want a 5.45 gun for the novelty of it. When will any US company start it? Fuck, I'd even buy PSA ammo
>>65523619>ak owner ego is so fragile they think people are miserable because the specific gun they want isn't worth owning and they are fine with the guns they already have. Man, /k/ sure has turned into r/guns
>>65523623>Bawww I wanna '74 but 5.45 'spensive ='(>Well you can try getting a 5.56 AK that will completely look the part of a '74 and pretty much feel exactly the same and you can actually afford to shoot it. Or you can get a '74 kit, barrel it for 5.56 and potentially swap it to 5.45 if it gets more reasonably priced. Hell, there's even native 5.56 AKs that could scratch the itch for you.>WTF that's so stupid and pointless why would anyone get a 5.56 AK when AR-15s exist??? >=(>Okay, fine, good luck buddy>Why everyone so mean to meeee =(jfc
>>65523619he's an antagonizing troll, if people would stop giving him attention he'd just fuck off. probably doesn't even own an ak.
>>65523645>/akg/ constantly bitching about ammunition >someone wants an actual ak74 but doesn't deem the price worth it>/akg/ can't accept that and instead rages about how anon spends his moneyThis is the current state of ak gun ownership.
NTA but 556 aks are cringe
Moving on from the shitter itt;Anyone have any recommendations for an AKsmith that could both install this in the white FSB and also apply a finish to it and the rifle it will be installed on?
Is Barwarus good to go?>>65523977My rifle is at Blackbush rn. Pod Arms is good too. I’ve heard mixed reviews about M13 and it seems like Troy Sellars at InRange doesn’t want to do anything anymore.
>>65523977cw gunwerks, pod arms.
>>65514091I mean, isn't a soft point 7.62x39 sufficient for defensive use? I bought a ton of PPU and S&B soft point ammo, and those are what I keep around for dangerShould I be buying Hornady SST or something?
Does anyone know if 5.56 ammo will fit 5.45 stripper clips?
>>65490342Is the bft-47 alright? I have no experience at all with ak's
>>65524832Update: got home and tried it, they fit perfectly Also, Soviet stripper clips are way better designed than US ones. >>65524989Do not do that. Stay away from anything Century Arms makes themselves. Get a WASR, WBP fox or jack, or a Zastava ZPAP.
>>65525014What would be a price on the bft where that wouldn't matter? Be genuine about it please. The only reason I care is because LGS owner offered me a bunch of stuff if I was interested in it
>>65525021Buy it. I hope it explodes and kills you. That’s the least anyone stupid enough to buy a Century after their decades of making unsafe rifles deserves.
>>65525021please tell us all the different stuff he offered you
>>65524832You already tried it but I took the time to try it for you.
>>65525065Hmm, works with beryl mags, I wasn't aware.
>>65525064>>65525055You guys are niggers tbqh. Is it the p320 of ak's or are you faggots "muh1337 ak ONLY" posting and pointing me to the Daniel Defense version of ak's?
>>65525075They are being silly. You should definitely buy the bft. You should also stop asking questions if you aren't going to listen to the answers.
>>65525083>get no real reasoning>get nothing factual>I HOPE THE GUN KILLS YOU>"hurr if u no like answer then no ask durr"I was hoping to hear about the material quality, longevity, common issues, modularity, general performance/reliability
>>65525099>The BFT47 was designed with the purpose of being a reliable, durable, and accurate AK at a price point the blue collar American can afford. With a Bulged and Forged 4140 steel front trunnion, a carburized 4140 steel bolt, 1.5 mm heat treated stamped 4130 steel receiver, manganese phosphate finish, and 16” 1:10 chrome-moly 4150 steel barrel, this rifle is designed to operate under stress with all commercially available ammo on the market.How could you go wrong with it? Seriously, go buy it, sounds like an awesome deal if he's gonna throw a bunch of stuff in on top of it.
>>65525099Are you really asking how modular an AK is? I'm not going to waste both our time to answer all of those and spell it out for you. The gun is bad.
>>65525105That sounds great I'm in
>>65525107Must be the time of night only trannies are on, geez you guys are aggressively hostile. Take it easy man
>>65525099>material quality, longevity, common issues, modularity, general performance/reliabilityIt's TRASH, nigger. What's so hard about that for you to grasp?It's an AK shaped bomb.Don't buy American made junk just because you could get some freebies (that are definitely also trash if he's stocking those garbage guns)What's the package, a bunch of magpul mags? Or is it even worse and they're ProMags?
>>65525110I'm not trying to be aggressive and hostile I'm answering your question, was it not the answer you were wanting? We are trying to save you from getting boomer scammed
>>65525065I appreciate you taking the time to check anyway. I think I’m going to stock up on these things for range day. >>65525074Neat, I didn’t even realize that they had the slot on them.
>>65525075Go ahead and buy it, it’s great. >WASR, WBP fox, ZPAPThese are the Daniel Defense, Knight’s Armament, and HK of AKs respectively. Anyone who uses one of those is probably a dentist, investment banker, or a corporate lawyer. Real working guys like us who really know what’s up use Century C39s and VSKAs.
>>65525197ThisAnd to let you all in on a secret...CAST > "FORGED" >> STAMPED >>> MILLEDCasting is weld strength for the ENTIRE receiver
>>65525195I have a bunch, have a .30 can full loaded with 7N6, shot through the other .30 can I had loaded with 5.45. May load up some 5.56 and 9mm on them. Some of the ((10)) 5.56 mags have the clip guide but I'm not sure I have one, I think those were the gen 1 mags and phased out. They also work with 9mm and vityaz mags.
>>65525251Hmmm…My Bulgy commercial magazines don’t have the guide but my dogshit US made Pioneer Arms magazines do. On arsenal’s website it looks like the current production 5.56 magazines don’t have them. On AOA’s website it doesn’t look like AC Unity magazines have them either. It might be time for me to get some Beryl mags.
>>65525197WBP = KACThis is the most retarded dumb fucking nigger take I've ever read on this website and I've been here since 04.
>>65525204Casting is not ideal for firearms. Uneven heating, air bubbles and natural impurities can cause microfractures in the metal over time.Stamping or forging are the best methods. Genuine Russian Kalashnikovs are stamped, that should tell you all you need to know. The reason some stamped AK are poor quality is because the metal itself is of poor quality. The quality of the material matters as much as the manufacturing method.
difference in forged and milled plox
>>65525803You hit every branch of the foolish wit tree on the way down or what? It's obviously a jest!
>7 years ago>dude forged is amazeballs all the surplus AKs have forged trunnions
Is there a significant difference in between a milled and stamped AK in real life other than it just being nicer to shoot?>t. just bought a milled AK
>>65525880they're both good>>65525934not really, just takes different furniture and milled is heavier but probably a bit smoother action. They're both good. I prefer stamped because it takes the most standardized widely available stuff, AKM/AK74 style.
wasr10 G2G?
>>65526354yeah
>>65526354only if you can inspect it irl before you buy, they have AWFUL qc
>>65525934The main difference is that milled receivers are heavier due to being thicker. This may seem good on paper but that also makes them less flexible, so more prone to breakage if the metal used is of bad quality. Again, as said in >>65525803 the quality of the materials matters as much as the manufacturing process.
>>65525107>yugo vs mil-spec go brrr
>>65526371sexy mama
>>65525934A stamped receiver will outlive the barrel and then some. Milled wil last longer, but that really doesn't matter considering. For a long while people thought milled was more accurate but that war went out the window a while back. So really, milled gives you more weight and a smoother feeling action.
>>65526386they used to have awful qc, it's gotten a lot better. Now it's just bad
>>65525763True. WBP is better than kac. In 20 years, rich ai tech bros will be paying $50,000 for old WBP rifles and you'll be kicking yourself for not buying when they were cheap
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>>65524832Where did you get the plum furniture from?
