Post reloads, data, questions, cool stuff.
Final weight is 316 gn. Lot of variation, I need to work on getting better at casting.. using the heaviest weight for the load data and just dealing with the variation on the 313 gn rounds which seem to be the lightest…. Accuracy is gonna be interesting but this is more of a test for how these are gonna do in .454 casull…. Going to run them on lil gun, should top out at about 1320 fps per grt, which feels a little slow for .454 but it’s out of a 2.5 inch Alaskan, so that’s screaming for this round. Anyone have any recommendations for increasing hardness? Debating just biting the bullet (figuratively speaking) and ordering some pure antimony or linotype to mix with the lead I have. Water quenched these, still have about a week of cure time before I can get a good measure of their hardness with my Lee tester….
Going to make some 8.6 creedmoor loads in QL just to see what you can get away with in a 10.5" barrel. I've never loaded for it but everyone seems to say that 12" is recommended
Anyone have any experience with Lee alox? Usually I’m doing big bullets, but I ordered some of this to try for 158 gn semi wadcutters for 38 special, maybe 357 depending on how well this keeps it from leading…
>>65445231If your going to go for subsonic then shorter probably works to your benefit.. what are you shooting it in?
.221 Anonymous Improved
>>65445222I think it's Matt's Bullets has the same mold.I've shot a handful of those through my Win92, COAL was like 1.650 in the lower cannelure if I remember right. Looking at my notes says the allow they used was only good to 1400fps from the long barrel.
So Hoppes 9 is a bad case lube
>>65445588Probably the worst for sure.
>>65445591God it’s like glue. You’d be better off resizing completely dry wtf
>>65445579That’s definitely the same mold… that’s the lee 6 chamber .452-300. Good to know they list it for 1400. Probably not gonna shoot these in my x frame, but loaded hot out of my Alaskan I doubt I’ll break that velocity..
>>65445579What was you load data and velocity if you don’t mind me asking?
>>65445588>>65445591>>65445620I make my own Dillon case lube by using 1 part liquid lanolin per 7-8 parts isopropyl alcohol (the higher the alcohol percentage the better) and use a spray pump. Coat them all with the spray bottle, let the alcohol evaporate for 5 minutes, never had a stuck case again. My problem is I tend to overdo it and the cases end up sticky, but I usually resize a big lot at a time and then tumble them in ground walnut with a homebrew case polish (nufinish and alcohol) to get them nice and shiny anyway.
>>65445878Thanks. The stuck case remover is my friend as much as a punch and hammer today
My body is ready to reload long schlong. Initial group with 225gr factory Eldm was .96MOA, can only improve
>>65445878Holy shit man you’re a lifesaver. I mean I don’t have your exact recipe or delivery method but the switch to a wax mix is game changing. Thanks again
>>65445508I loaded a .30-06 cartridge that ended up looking just like that.
I'm getting into reloading as a hobby and to shoot more. I've been doing lots of research over the past week and have a Lyman manual coming in. I want to reload 9mm, 45acp, and maybe 38spl down the road. I've been seeing peoples' comparisons between all the machines and all their quirks. I was hoping to get opinions from anons with experience. I'm technical/handy enough to work on my car and I like to think I'm not a complete dummy. What do you guys think of between Lee Six Pack Pro 6000, Hornady LnL AP, or the Dillon 550C? Are the turret presses like the Lee Classic/Ultimate Turret worth it or is output too slow? Midway shows so-so ratings, but amazon shows the classic turret press kit with high reviews.
>>65447072Turret presses were mostly obsoleted when QC bushings hit the market.I'm a fan of the older RCBS progressives, especially the Piggyback.For just starting out get one of the Lee auto-indexing turrets. Disable the auto index until you've got some experience.
>>65447072As this anon says, >>65447114learning to load with a single stage setup (or a progressive press set up to run as a single stage) is the way to go starting out.. a very fast progressive press can make an astonishing amount of mistakes very quickly before you realize it…
>>65447072A turret really is an unnecessary middle road between good old single stage and a progressive press. Really the best practice is to do every step as a batch>clean all your brass>trim all your brass>size all your brassChange die>prime all your brass>(expand all your brass)(Change die)>charge the load>seat your bulletYou can charge and seat together as one step if you want, I do. but At most you have to change your dies twice.
>>65447147In all fairness I load mostly low volume big caliber stuff, but I find running 2 single stages is nice.. decap/resize and bell… or round depending decap with a universal and partially resize…. Then seat and crimp in sepperate steps..454 on the presses…
>>65447159Gee Bill, two presses??
>>65445214QOTT: Record rounds reloaded per one day/week/sitting?
>>65447164Technically 3 but this one’s for weird shit…
>>65447168One sitting like a hundred or somethingMy reloading setup is incredibly uncomfortable and single stage, so I get outright fatigued doing that manyResults from yesterday – .308 Lapua OTCE 100gr handloads from my L1A1 at 100m, needs like half a grain more powder to achieve full burn as I was getting unpleasant gas clouds in my eye while shooting
>>65447168Going through my records… for a week it would be 1178…. On my 2 press setup… For a single day it would be 400…. Did those 38 specials, and back last year in September I loaded 400 rounds of 45LC on hp-38 in one long evening..On a side note, spreadsheets are awesome for reloading records..
>>65447201>My reloading setup is incredibly uncomfortable and single stage, so I get outright fatigued doing that manyOther than being single stage whats so uncomfortable. Brass prep is always the biggest pain for me as all I have are hand tools and not a good system for cleaning yet so the media gets everywhere.
>>65447233>UniqueMy nigga
>>65447238I have the press set up on a bench. Like a literal bench you sit on, not a table. One of these days I'm gonna have to take up my friend's offer of his former kitchen table for free and install it there
>>65447246>bench level work stationDo you feel like a feudal Japanese craftsman when you reload?
>>65447255Basically, I don't have a powder dropper either so it's very low-techAt least I have a digital scale now but I used to have a beam
>>65447243Great powder… works in damn near everything… if it’s Smokey and unburned… your can probably put more in…. Also surprisingly good for reduced recoil 500 mag…
>>65447168Did 500 .45 Colt in one sitting with the Lee hand tool.Never again. Set up on of my progressive toolheads instead.>Did 1000 .40 S&W on a progressive. Had two squibs with no powder. Been slowly breaking them down looking for the two charges.double
>>65447260>a beamTHAT was my first upgrade. And quickly. Damn that tedious.
>>65447300> Been slowly breaking them down looking for the two charges.doubleYou didn’t just weigh them?
Who itt got the cheapest primers (recently)? $6.99 SR $11.99 LR here
>>65448049Might be tough if the charge weight is super low….
>>65448065...where?
>>65448502Scheels I think.
>>65448335I think that’s a good method to try first, at least to sort in order of suspicion, instead of just pulling them all at random. Brass, bullet and primer shouldn’t be over 4 grains difference between each other or so I’d think. I’ve never weighed bullets for consistency before.
>>65447168500 rds one sitting. single stage press. took like half a day
>>65447300Is it a possibility of it just failing to charge without dumping it into the next round?
>>65448049Mixed brass and cheap bullets. The spread between max and min weights between the two could hide the extra powder.It's not a true double charge as the excess spilled but it would still be a stupid amount of pressure.
>>6544920951+% load density masterrace
>>65445438A custom bolt action, r700 clone. Shorter is of course fine for subs, but retaining decent velocity in supersonic loadings would also be desireable. I did manage to fiddle around in QL and found that with some very careful powder selection you can make just about anything work. The inch and a half difference didn't equate to much velocity loss at all
>>65449252That’s ideal, was gonna say if your running it in an ar you have to worry about keeping the pressure up to cycle the action, but you can go crazy with that. Cfe BLK works pretty good for me in big bore stuff, somewhat ironically I’ve never tried it in 300 blackout, but it’s worth a look…
>>65447114>>65447124>>65447147Thanks for the responses. I'm going to go for an auto-indexing turret to get my bearings. Maybe a progressive is overkill for my needs. Now, I'm debating between the lee classic and the lee ultimate turret.
>>65449286I've seen other people recommend this too, but I've never tried it. I'll add it to quickload and see what I can come up with. Won't be able to do any actually testing for awhile yet
>>65449456Oddly it works well in 500 bushwacker and 444 marlin.. it’s pretty good for a 10-16 inch barrel pushing heavy stuff
>finished .38 wadcutters>started on depriming .308
>>65449897Nice. That’s next weekend for me.. going to try alox on some 158 gn semiwadcutters..
.25-20win is scarcer than I originally believed it would be
>>65449909As a .32-20 loader I feel you, WHY IS THE BRASS SO FUCKING FRAGILE! AAAAAAGGAGAHH!anyway 3.8GR of HP-38 is a pretty good load under a 115Gr hardcast LFN in my 1928-9 S&W 3rd model Hand ejector, may be the load I tried that just doesn't have enough ass behind it but a starting load of Lil Gun and 110gr hornady jhp's just squibbed and barely penetrated the old pine log I shot them at. I don't think these old guns were meant to shoot copper jacketed stuff, But that's just dumb speculation on my part.Maybe I should go back for that old Zulu shotgun at the antique store, It was 112$ and decent but missing the Breech block and the hinge screw, that and it's only rated for black powder. Decisions, Decisions,.
>>65449953Bro I can’t find brass. I’ve found some places that have a box of .257 flat nose, I’ve found powder, primers and load data. But I can’t find brass I’m going to have to try to bump down 32-20 brass and you’re not inspiring me to ruin $80 of good 32-20 ammo. I’ll send you the all the 32-20 bullets I pull.
>>65449909Winchester does a run every 5 or so years. Just need to wait.Bertram also makes it if you can find a dealer.
One of these days I will load those 185 grain bullets for my Saiga in 7.62x39I sold a gun and the buyer gave me load data for it in addition to money
>>65449898A few shaved the copper plating. Should be OK to shoot still, but these CamPro brand bullets have very thin plating. I could have bellmouthed the casings slightly more of course, but I've never had this problem with Berry's or Xtreme.
>>65450747I don’t know why nickel plated brass looks so fucking classy… and also why it seems to be so common in 38 special…. But it is
>>65450950Yeah I picked up 9000 pieces from an LGS going out of business sale in 2019 for ~$160. Gave 3000 to my dad. All nickel plated Remington. It's OK, had a few where the plating started to flake.
>>65451075When I bought my reloading setup it was from an estate.. didn’t own a 38 at the time but it came with about 2k primed nickle plated cases. Still looking to get a double action 38…. Right now I mostly shoot it through my Blackhawk.. LGs had a 5 shot used Taurus snub with wood grips for 209$…. Strongly debating picking it up if it’s still there at the end of this week.. just for shits, giggles, and plinking.
the mystery crate has arrived
>>65451270Pardon?
I asked in the last thread shortly before it fell off the catalog, but are there are any practical differences in Hornady's aeromatch vs their regular match that's worth the extra cost? Or is it not worth it if I'm not chasing 0.1 MOA accuracy at 1000 yards?
>>65451270
>>65445508I've done that with 6.5 creed and .223 rem before. I wish that I could get a chamber that I know will safely shoot them so I can measure the fps against normal rounds.
>>65451341the mystery crate. it's here.
>>65451617Military dunnage.
>>65451617>>65451270..you gonna use all that brass anon?
>>65452212>brassI see a lot of steel.
Need another bench for my annealer and auto-trickler, I guess
>>65451617oof. i don't know if the juice will be worth the squeeze...
I didn't shoot or reload over the weekend, but I did grab a some 9mm, 5.56, and .308 brass from a tiny little shooting range on my way to climb Mount Carrigain NH. I had hoped to find more, but I'm glad people keep it pretty clean. Here's the view from a ridge just short of the summit.
>>65451617Hey, uhh. Can I come over and help you clean and sort all that?
Alright. Let’s try one
Ok. 49 more to go.
>>654471681
>>65449953Want any 95gr?
Any of you guys know what this is? It almost looks like an N frame. >>65452519neat
>>65452586nvm, it's an older discontinued version of the S&W .500
Any retard here also considering reloading 5.7x28?
>>65452593Me. But I don't know if it's worth. To me, a cartridge is only really worth reloading if it gives you versatility you would not otherwise have
>>65452519What happened to your boolit
>>65451075>>65450950in my expreience nickel plated shit doesnt last long. usually by the second or third firing the mouth splits and cracks. i think the plating makes the brass brittle
>>65452586it says right on the barrel. teh 500 is an x frame
>>65452702The 25 cal? Casting imperfection. Guessing due to not keeping the mold hot enough.
>>65452677Surely a box of 100 35gr .224 are cheaper cpr than a factory box of 50. Though expectedly uncommon to find on shelves.
>>65452757Interesting that it doesn’t have the removable ports…. Classy as hell looking.. didn’t realize they made them with the partial underlug other than the performance center one where it has the ramp up towards the end of the barrel.
Got to shoot some more 50 Alaskan mag over the weekend. Cleaned sized and reloaded brass shot well. Looks like since it’s really low pressure for what the brass can handle I’ll get plenty of reloads out of them. Looking at picking up a .510 mold so I’m not buying muzzle loading bullets. Figure alox should probably be enough, especially if I go with a slightly heavier bullet moving a little faster.. there’s a Lee .515 that would size down to .510 that’s a 450 gn.. so a touch heavier than the 385 gn ones I’m currently using. Only hiccup was after 11 rounds this weekend (28 total between both trips) it backed the screws for the rear sight out and launched it.. I was able to find it and already got it back on the barrel..
>>65453033*moving a little slower. Derped out on that…Also across 9 shots my standard deviation was about 20…. So not too shabby for what it is
Polishing up 7.62 and .223 brass I've had for 10+ years. Going to deprime and swage all of it. This is only a portion of what I've got. No sense in doing all of it now. Just going to shoot this until I start to see split casings before beginning to process the other stuff.
>>65451361Only just found out about them, seem a weird niche, better than their other stuff but not good enough for bullet snobs
>>65447168I think my record is 6
>tfw bought #8s of Acc 4100 and #16s Alliant BE86 just in time to not have the time to load or shootWas aiming to consolidate all my pistol loads into 2 powders. BE86 is very similar to Unique while 4100 is my H110 replacement.Those powders were extremely cost effective when I bought them.
>>65454264>10 yearsWas it yours or did someone give it to you or something?
>>65454407Mine. I just mostly load and shoot .45 Auto. I haven't loaded a bottle neck cartridge in 10 years too lol.
>>65454519Remember, sizing and expanding is the same die now don’t freak out missing one
Alox came in early… commencing 38 special experiments
>>65455122Pure lead or hard cast?
>>65455134Pure lead. I keep putting off ordering some hardball or antimony to mix it with. But this is gonna be low velocity plinking rounds anyway so I’m not super worried. I’d have tried pan lubing them but this mold isn’t really set up with deep lube grooves. 158 gn semiwadcutters
>>65455152Ever done it before? I’ve been scared to shoot pure cheese in smokeless rounds no matter how little/slow the velocities are. A leaded barrel is not something I’d like to try to clean.
>>65455094>now don’t freak out missing oneKek
>>65455299In my 50 Alaskan mag bullets I used pure lead muzzle loader bullets sized to .510 that were greased. Haven’t had any leading from those after almost 30 and it pushes them to 1350 ish fps out of a 15 inch barrel. But from what I understand leading is a combo of how soft the lead is, how tight a fit it is in the bore, how high the pressure is (basically how fast the bullets getting accelerated) and the rifling.. the leading happens because of heat causing the lead to gall out into the barrel so lubricants help lower the temp as the bullet slides by reducing friction, a gas check helps seal the bore so gas doesn’t get between the sides of the bullet and the barrel, powder coating acts as a lubricating barrier between the bullet and bore and significantly drops the friction and galling…. Which is why I really need to try to figure it out but I’ve had limited success with my experiments so far…. Honestly I was a lot more worried when I started but I think it’s like anything else in reloading, test it out carefully, watch for leading in your test shots and if it starts, clean it and try something different. Casting bullets is too much of a savings right now for me not to try.
Swaging my Perfecta .308 brass. I have over 400 pieces of Turk 7.62x51 and 800+ PMC and Federal .223 to deprime and swage too. That's 99% of my 7.62/.308 brass, and maybe 1/3 to 1/4 of my 5.56/.223 brass lol.Then I have to buy 24# of TAC powder, primers and .224" bullets. I have 1000 .308 bullets now. 168gr Nosler hollowpoints. I should get some FMJs for the Turk brass...I need more cash ugh
>>65456173I got a little goodwill oven and some powder but haven’t tried coating my 100% lead bullet casting yet. Any pointers or instructions?
Does somebody know a good powder to do low energy,barrel life engancing powders for magnums? Me and a fren want to use our LRP rifles for classic 50/100m competition without wasting barrel life. So my plan is to run a 225gr ELDM with N160 in my 26" 300PRC at a low load
>>65445248Hey anon, I am a mechanic. Just shoot for a hobby on the weekends and stuff, never done my own reloading. I know quite a bit about various kinds of greases and lubes and such. Why do bullets need a special kind of lube? Lightweight? Non-combustable? Specific to the different metals (copper/lead/brass) to avoid galling? Would just any lightweight oil work fine (LPS1 for example)?
>>65456913It needs to stick to the lead in order not to immediately foul the barrel to shit
>>65456919Oh ok, it is not about pressing the bullet into the casing. It is lubricant for the bullet to barrel surface area. Interesting. Thanks anon. I assume you would want something that will stay on the bullet during transport and over time in storage then. Too lightweight and it would run off or evaporate (if greaseless) before you even loaded the round into a gun. But not too sticky like a preservative so that it actually lubricates the bullet.
>>65456941Yes bullets are actually a couple thousandths wider than the narrowest part of the bore
>>65456948To better grip the rifling, I assume. Thanks for teaching, anon.
>>65456852Harbor freight white works like shit, and if you bend screen into a tray make sure your not using galvanized metal so you don’t accidentally hear colors when using it…. I’ve got the same, goodwill toaster oven and a cool whip container to mix the coating and bullets, no luck getting it non blobby, Probably going to try ordering some ford blue powder which for whatever reason seems to be regarded as particularly good at covering bullets…>>65456913Main factor I’m concerned with is that it stays solid when it’s 120 degrees here in Arizona…. Feel like this guy could probably add some useful info on the chemistry side of things… >>65456859But as others said, you want something that sticks and it’s to allow the bullet to slide down the bore while reducing heat and leading on the rifling.
>>65456173>>65456852>>65457110have you guys tried out the hi tek coatings? i dont cast myself but their advertising makes it seem like it would be a better coating than harbor freight powder coats
>>65457110I need to read his question, now its too late. To prevent sticking you need to know which kind of metalls interact. For example to stamp sheet metall you use AW/EP additives that react in the cutting zone while aluminium wont react it will need polar lubricant contant like Esters (2EH-Stearate). Pic related im testing a multimetall stamping solvent, 2 chemicals from that formulation will soon upgrade Goonoil to Gen3
>>65457230Is this part of your business or is it hobby? Stamping is no joke
>>65457262Im working as a lubricant scientist and chemist. Today i had a side quest to make a smoke liquid for model trains IMAO
>>65457220Not yet but I’ve heard of them, I only tried the harbor freight white because I was able to just pick it up locally instead of having to order it. It was like a whole eight dollars so not a lot of commitment to the experiment.
>>65457272A noble endeavor. Godspeed, slippyman.
>>65457230>GoonoilI’m sorry but where can this be purchased in medium size quantities?
Bump
Slowly making more 50 Alaskan brass.. since this is mostly just a novelty shoot for fun. I’m pretty sure 50 or 100 loaded rounds is all I really need to keep in rotation and not have to be reloading between every single range trip I take it on.
>>65457285https://mokasraifus.com/product/nano-gun-oil-universal-50-ml/
>>65458683You still just glitterdusting all that down or have you tried the copper cutter method?. Your work surface looks like Tinker Bell converted to Islam and went full Aloha Snackbar
>>65459637Honestly, I’ve got the drill adapter. I tried using copper cutters and ended up squishing a case down too much so I don’t know if I need sharper cutters for that but I’m not planning on converting more than maybe 100 or 150 cases and even though you have to do it in two stages due to needing the smaller pilot it’s still less than 30 seconds of trimming per case when you’re cycling it with a drill If your reading this, anon who was gonna get the .445 supermag contender off funbroker, did that work out?
>>65459958was just going to be a frame then buy the supermag barrel later but nah, last one i bid on some guy came in under 10 minutes left then bid 3 times to get just barely above me. ill most likely put this on pause for a bit since financially i should be thinking more about getting a job first. i think ill try going for a stainless frame or at least a madcat as new as possible just to give it the best chance of holding up to the abuseof course as im typing this out theres now a post fire madcat up for 425
>>65459980You inspired me and I lucked out on an eBay bid.. if your logged in and view listings sometimes sellers will auto send lower offers… ended up at 340$ should show up Monday. Figured it was time to get a more reasonable barrel for my contender so I have something lighter to shoot than the 50 Alaskan mag project…. Life comes first man, once you start getting stuff lined up I’m sure you’ll get a chance to snag one. Hopefully I’ll have some load data help when you do.
Shiny!200 rounds on the way!
>>65460107Based. How are you cleaning them?
>>65460007hell yeah mayng, if you ever find yourself in the southeast ill gladly buy you a beerand yeah i know, proper life priorities first. curse this autism of mine
please, somebody, i want just absolutely ridiculous load data for 9mm, i have a pcc with a super safety that I just want to load fuck you kinds of reloads for that i can slam into any kind of intruder or whateverlike i want havoc 9mm that shoots at 2000 fps, or ridiculously overweight hollowpointsthe gun can handle very high pressures compared to normal pistol stuff, so +p is fine preferrably keep it under a reasonable .30 CPR aswell because i want to shit out hundreds of this stuff so i can train with it and have it on hand any time i want
>>65460590If you ever end up out in Arizona let me know and we can take some shots…. Wrists might suffer though…
>>65460684What’s the barrel length?
>>6546070912", its an sbr
What kind of bullet molds should I get for when I start reloading? I got some lead ingots for helping clean out someone's garage.>.44 I plan on carrying>.357 do it all bullet if it exists>.38 special wadcutter of some kind
>>65460684Bored, have fun, use intelligently. Cam-pro 158gn rnfp on 5.6 gns of power pistol out of a 12 inch barrel ends up at 1300 fps and 604 ft/lbs with the max pressure worryingly at 37000 psi (using 38500 as the +p max)
>>65460791And if you shell out for the Lehigh ftm-exd 68 gn (Philips screwdriver fluid transfer solid copper penetrators). And load them on 6.3 gns of bullseye the. Out of a 12 inch barrel you might get 2000 fps with 630 ft/lbs of energy. Put more effort into understanding these than I did throwing it together in GRT before attempting to make these in real life..
>>65459958>I tried using copper cutters and ended up squishing a case down too muchOk yeah there’s videos on how to use copper cutters man. But if you prefer glitterbombing yourself I won’t dash your glam.
>>65460791If GRT says you're close to pmax you're probably over.
>>65460707will do man
>>65460838I can’t directly measure pressure.. yet… someday.. but from the velocities I think it depends on the powder. I’ve had it clearly be over predicted, and a few that were severely underwhelming
>>65460811It’s fabulous anon…..
>>65445214What does the R9 signify?
>>65460177Dry tumbler. They are already decapped, resized and expanded.I should get a manual tool, but which one?
I've got time to reload, but not time to hit the range. I'm building up a little pile of target loads for .308, .30-06, 5.56, .38 special, and .357 magnum. I'm still new to all of this and can't help but suspect that I'm making stuff that is gonna blow up my gun despite not loading anything more than 50% of what data suggests. I think I'm just running into odd inconsistencies with my equipment as I get more experience with it all and it's making me nervous. Sometimes my bullets get seated at deeper or shallower depths without me changing anything. I've discovered my RCBS powder measure really doesn't like stick powder and I'm getting powder clumping and bridging in the measure, leading to inconsistent loads. My electronic scale decides, at random, to be way off and take a long time to adjust to what the correct weight is. Again, I'm still familiarizing myself with the process and I'm trying to be conservative as I build experience, but all of these errors make me think something is going to go wrong and I'm gonna blow up. I feel like I need to hit the range and prove to myself what I've made is safe and I need to stop fretting.
>>65461414>R9It's /rg/. NTA tho>>65461420>Dry tumbler. They are already decapped, resized and expanded.Do your dies get dirty? I dry tumble, then size, decap, clean primer pockets with picel screwed into my press base. That way I can run it through the die, turn it on the pocket cleaner bit, drop the brass in the bin and repeat. >I should get a manual tool, but which one?Tool for primer pockets or something else?
>>65461621>It's /rg/. NTA thoBut the R is clearly capitalised...
>>65461738
>>65461756Then it can't be /rg/, more like /Rg/.
>>65461414It’s an abstract art commentary on the tragedy of the commons…
>>65461757R = r G = g
>>65461858Look at the picture. That's not a G, that's a 9 or g. Capital R and lower case g.
>>65461934Whatever, dork
>>65461467It sucks when you think your instruments are being unreliable. However try to always think it’s you and if you’re ever unsure pull the bullet and retry or throw it away. No number of minutes of effort or cost of material is worth blowing up your gun/face
>>65461621>Tool for primer pockets or something else?Handheld tool to prime my cases, yes>Do your dies get dirty?I don't add much brass polisher, because it turns into a sticky mess, and I never tumble decappped brass to keep my pockets clean.
>Got old metal can of IMR 4895 in auction.>Powder still looks back and smells like solvent.>However, pouring the powder leaves a thin red powder residue in my powder measure.>Inside of can has very thin layer of surface rust.This stuff still good?
>>65462364I wouldn’t worry about it.
>>65445214Never done reloading before but I want to; what should I get/read if I have no way to drill-into and more permanently affix any equipment? Especially for shotguns.
>>65462410>shotgunDepending on your volume/ desired loads that make be very doable anonBut just make a small bench/stand out of 2x4s anon
>>65462384>t. Skinwalker
>>65462489What could go wrong with mixing an explosive with solid oxygen?
>>65462294Alright man I get you!
>>65462410>shotgunsYou and me both, fren!
>>65462555I want to start loading 12 gauge rounds as well.. not sure why it feels like 12 gauge shotgun reloading is the most unhinged kind of reloading….
>>65462846But then I run across stuff like this… I’d never even considered loading rounds specifically for anyone with a peanut allergy before…. Maybe I should try loading some with gluten….
>>65462856I've done this before with bridshot and crayons. I used a beer can as a double boiler.
>>65462861How well did it work?
>>65462846>it feels like 12 gauge shotgun reloading is the most unhinged kind of reloadingMy dad was a league trap shooter for yearsSo much that him and I occasionally go to the club and shoot at 25 clays with loads he did back when I was in grade school. He's got some shell progressive press that I pressed 50 shells when I was a kid. Winchester AA is his preferredAt gun raffles I always put in for a semi 20 or lever .410 and want to load for thoseBut yeah there's some cowboy reloading that I won't attempt. He taught me a lot about metallic handloading. To the point where I'm on a wildcat binge with .45 Super and he's now bragging about me to his buddies.Shot shell reloading is still foreign to me lol.
>>65460719454 round ball molds.Some sort of 9mm/357/38 boolit that will also load into 350 legend.Maybe something for a 308 diameter.
>Bullet diameter>.3570–.0030 in (9.068–0.076 mm)Chat what the fuck does this mean chat
>>65463037HAH! I know this one. Fucking Ohio…350 legend now uses .355 diameter bullets…. But Ohio has a minimum requirement for bullet diameter of .357. And since it’s a major market for straight wall hunting cartridges the work around was to say it’s a .357 bullet with a .003 tolerance…. (That .355 falls within). So it’s a very unique combination of stupid legal bullshit and Ohio being…. Ohio…. As a former Ohioan it is 100% not fucking surprising.. have fun with your 350 legend lol
>>65462846shotshell loading is way more complicated and dangerous because theres way more variables. its not just powder and projectile wegiht, its the type and brand of wad, the hull brand, theres just a lot more shit to worry about
>>65463119>dangerous Grok, please summarize. Shotgun rounds are low pressure. I intuit there are more steps and therefore more chances to go wrong understanding/doing each step but catastrophic failure in a non-semi-auto level?
>>65462905It was surprisingly accurate for what it was. It stayed together too.
>>65463060Thank you Grok
>>65460791>>65460804>158 grain 1300 fps>68 grain 2000 fps>both as much muzzle energy as .357 magnumholy shit this is exactly what I was looking for
>>65463391Use it at your own risk. I don’t load 9mm and grt can be… creative… but if you ladder up to it you might be ok if you watch for pressure signs
>>65460791>>65460804Woah, it's like a dyno sim but for bullets.
>>65463393the gun is rated for up to 38200 PSI, after which it'll cause issues with the bolt and timing, but shouldn't cause any major safety issues unless I really over do itI'll still work up to it of course and put in some research before I try anything
>>65463413What gun? Different anon, but I'm curious.
>>65463413The main thing is the warning “errors due to tolerance likely” generally means that overcrimping. Or seating the bullet too deep can cause it to run overpressure.. it’s not impossible to load those, but do so with an excess of caution, it’s an “oops blows the gun up” not “oops kicks much harder” territory
>>65463406Grt and quickloads are both pretty useful, but the rule is you get out what you put in. I typically load and model some published loads to get a feel for how well it’s matching real world performance before I start trying squirrely stuff with a specific caliber.
>>65460791>>65460804>>65463393oh and what about ridiculous hollow point loadings? like how fast could I shit out say a 147 grain hp>>65463422well now you're making me worried, how much tolerance do I need to give to prevent that issue?I'm currently only used to reloading older slow moving rifle cartridges, as a milsurp fag
>>65463428Not sure to be honest. Personally I’d verify Oal on every round and weight every charge. I already do that with my hot 454 and other close to max big bores.. but it’s gonna be more tedious loading 9mm.
>>65463428So this is that same light penetrator but accidentally seated to 1.04 instead of 1.05. That’s enough to push it into predicted overpressure. Also fwiw that seating depth is so you get enough of that short bullet in that case to give it a chance to be stable….
>>65463485Missed the pic
>>65463476>>65463485>>65463510hmm seems pretty risky honestly.01 difference is so tiny that i think even if I can load it all properly and precisely, I might just have issues purely from how I handle the ammunition or something like where it hits the feed ramp at a bad angle and still loads but the bullet is pushed in a little (happens noticably with bolt actions but dunno about semi autos)got anything that wont just kill me?
>>65463428You could touch 1400 fps maybe with a 147 gn Speer hollow point… >>65463520Backing the charge down by a couple 10ths of a grain will help.. also honestly you’d want to get the case capacity of your actual 9mm cases and use that not the generic for it…. Like I said, GRT does some useful stuff but you need to see how it predicts safe loads to make sure your not doing weird stuff and always load a ladder to test your way up..
>>65463393>grt can be… creative…Haven't flattened a primer yet!
>>65463552This was a 454 casull load with 255 gn truncated cone jacketed rounds on a ladder of lil gun from 31.5 gn to 33 in .5 gn increments… first rung was hot, second rung was flat primers and ejected chunks of jacket from the cylinder gap…. The max velocity measured from this average was 1533 fps…. I was shooting this out of my 2.5 inch barreled Alaskan…. Still have to pull the next two rungs and save the powder… stopped shooting when it hit this….
>>65463562GRT predicted it about 150 fps lower.. not sure what the hell went wrong..
>>65463562>from 31.5 gn to 33 in .5 gn increments…>>65463565>not sure what the hell went wrong..You went up by .5 instead of .2
>>65463579Even if that were the case the first rung at 31.5 was still way too fast, and the predicted velocity for the top rung was lower than the actual velocity of the second..
>>65463426>I typically load and model some published loads to get a feel for how well it’s matching real world performanceI do this too (only have GRT). I have only made one load of my own that wasn't in any books but there was a similar enough bonded bullet I compared data to I wasn't too worried
Is a primer too loose in the pocket a concern? Not falling out level but “had to check because didn’t even feel it with the hand priming tool” level
>>65463615Idk I feel like it can't be too loose if it isn't falling outPrimers and primer pockets have pretty wild size differences for sure
I'm learning to reload with .45-70 for my Winchester 1886. I thought reloading would be more complicated, but it seems pretty straightforward once you know the steps.
>>65463631As long as you know the steps yes. It’s not just >*haha press go clunk clunk*
>>65463631Loading original black powder?
>>65463631Probably quite a dangerous rifle and cartridge to learn on, but yeah if you take your time and take it seriously it's pretty easy
>>65460715reported
>>65463645>>65463648I'm not using black powder, but I have been loading a 405gr Trapdoor safe load from the Lyman manual. The powder that I've been using is 5744, I forget the exact brand. CCI LR primers, Starline brass and ACME cast bullets.I've wanted a Winchester in .45-70 for a while, and it gave the perfect excuse to finally learn. I actually enjoy the recoil from .45-70 (which is weird since I hate lots of recoil in a handgun), but I admit I can't shoot a ton of it without putting on a shoulder pad at some point.
>>65463295the wads change pressure dynamics a lot. using load data for one wad could blow up your gun with another wad
>>65463657All I was saying about the rifle is a pretty standard bolt gun is designed to take shitloads of pressure and even if you goof it extremely bad it will vent away from the face. Not so much with a vintage 45-70, a cartridge notorious for having 3 tiers of power kek
>>65463754NTA but good to know. If I reloaded shotgun I'd probably consider a wad much like a primer and basically not give a shit
>>65463810My Winchester 1886 isn't vintage, it's a Miroku.
>>65463913I’m jelly anon. 45-70 has been on my list of “big stuff I want to add to the collection” for a while. Have you considered trying to cast your own bullets?
>>65464554Never thought of it. What would I need to get started?
>>65464916A mold, something to melt lead in, something to lube the bullets with (pan lube with a hot plate) and lead. If your loading for trapdoor level loads then soft lead shouldn’t be too much of a problem.
>>65463364Did you fully grok it?
>>65464927Thanks, man. My local gunsmith has been teaching me how to reload. I'll see if has the necessary equipment so I can try it before I start buying any materials.
>>65465300Oh I grokked
>>65463814yeah thats the first thing i assumed too before i watched someone teach me how to load it. probaly has to do with the fact wads have different heights and stiffness/give when you compress them. kind of like how if you seat a bullet deeper in a brass case it increases pressure a shorter wadd probably does the same because it moves the shot closer
>>65463814heres what AI just told me:Changing wads significantly alters internal volume and seal, directly impacting chamber pressure and ballistics in shotgun reloading. Even wads of identical dimensions can produce vastly different pressures due to variations in material stiffness, polyethylene mixtures, and internal design. Stiffness and Cushioning: Stiffer wads (e.g., Federal 12S0/12S3) offer less compression, resulting in higher pressures, while softer wads (e.g., Remington TGT) compress more easily, yielding lower pressures. Volume and Seal: Wads that take up more internal volume or provide a tighter gas seal increase pressure. For example, using a longer wad may reduce powder capacity but increase working pressure for the same velocity. Component Swaps: Substituting wads without adjusting powder charges can cause dangerous pressure spikes. A difference of just 0.1 grains in powder due to wad substitution can result in a pressure swing of nearly 1,300 PSI.Seating Pressure: Modern plastic wads require minimal seating pressure; excessive force can compress the wad’s cushion section, potentially leading to bulged crimps, buckled hulls, or erratic pressure readings. Experienced reloaders emphasize that pressure numbers are relative and that sticking to published recipes for specific hull/wad combinations is critical for safety, as even minor component changes can shift pressures outside safe limits.
>>65465427>grokkedWhat's sub-15% GRT say?NTA
>>65466119The construction of the shells themselves matters too, Honestly, the most annoying part of reloading is if you're not content with the cartridges you can produce, there's more and more equipment to buy.>bullets expensive >buy single stage press and mass produced components >single stage is slow , case cleaning is slow, bullets expensive for target practice> turret press works for one caliber, but cost savings Don't add up without diversity>molds and lead pot to kill the bullet and shot expense> vintage lubrisizer press to size bullets and all the 30 different calibers that need different dies I feel like a guy who got into model trains but wasn't autistic enough to remember all of them but the big ones
Local shop has a used Remington 700 for an attractive price. I've already got a .308 AR-10 that I can try to make precise loads for, but I don't have a precision rifle in the collection yet. All this toying and tinkering with reloading has gotten me thinking about what kind of match ammo I can make, and a rifle like that would be a great platform to try it out, methinks.
>>65466377I want to do this with something that has crap popularity because of ammo cost.. I got a 6.5 prc to convert for a project, but it was cheap for a howa 1500 and I think it would be fun to get one in 7mm prc or 300 prc….
>>65466469AKM…
>>65466469.405 Winchester
>>65466469300PRC is fun but somehow i think its the most non-tactical caliber for solo fun, IDK if im even be able to spot my own impacts below 800yards. For that reason i dropped the plan to invest in reloading gear this year amd keep focosing on 6.5CM and 556 handloads, factory ELDM will do just fine for one trip
>>65466587does anyone here load for an AK or SKS? how bad does it fuck up brass and how many loads can you get out of brass for the average 80% of max charge loading
>>65466587x39 ammo has gotten so pricy that it finally makes financial sense to reload it
>>65468285>finally makes financial sense to reload itFor a Mini 30, AR or bolt action it always made sense.
>>65468215I wanna do that just because I like the giant straight wall cartridges…. That, .45-70 (and up) and 444 marlin always feel like they’re cut from the same cloth to me…
>>65468816>444MarlinThat’s funny. This is the second time in my life that caliber has been brought to my attention. The other was last week when I saw a RCBS shell holder #28 was on clearance at Murdochs for 0.99¢. I understand it may not have been selling as well as the other 5 calibers.
anyone got experience with ginex primers? the reddit store has large rifle ones for like 3 cpr
>>65469122>reddit storeWhat's the r*ddit store?
>>65469122Only LR, they're a bit big for many primer pockets, and by a bit I mean a lotI tried one with my Norma 7.5 Swiss cases and with my Ram Prime it felt like the primer was gonna blow any second, that's how much force I was having to use
>>65468280I have only contemplated reloading for mine but I estimate the same kind of casing life as for my SLR that I have reloaded for, i.e. a casing is good for two firings. I'm sure you could stretch it out a lot more but why? I guess it mostly depends on what kind of ding the ejection makes. With the FAL you mostly get flattened necks which are easy to straighten out but AKs dent the body
>>65469142https://ravenrocksprecision.com/product/ginex-large-rifle-primer/
>>65469177so should i skip them? its a good deal but i dont want to get them if they wont work in most brass. ive always just used cci or winchester
>>65469207How is RRP r*ddit? I've gotten some of my best 250 and 260gr .45 bullets from there.
Anyone say fuck it and used 7.62 bullets in a 7.7 gun? If so can you stay on paper with it?
>>65469207If there’s anything that inspires trust in serious mechanical endeavors it’s A) not even trying to put the effort into the presentation of your product and B) coming from a country that needs to use diacritics for their silly sounding little language
Do primers become any spicier with age as powder? I would think no because powder only does that because it physically erodes into smaller (therefore higher surface area) pellets
Weekends over bros. You did do something productive today didn’t you?
>>65469108It lost out to 45-70 pretty badly. Which is a shame because I think with modern powders, and all the different .429 bullets it’s got potential to do all sorts of weird stuff…. On the crazy heavy end this was loaded with a 505 gn hardcast, hit 1650fps out of a 14 inch single shot pistol…. Want to try the same with some 125 gn Lehigh solid copper rounds.. run faster powder.. pretty sure I can safely break 3200 fps.. and then I’ve got a bunch of .429 shot capsules I keep wanting to try as well… >>65468605
>>65469531>On the crazy heavy end this was loaded with a 505 gn hardcast, hit 1650fps out of a 14 inch single shot pistolSo do you strap the muzzle end to the table or do you just wear a helmet? Jesus
>>65469211I can't say "most brass" with good conscience because they work OK with Sako/Lapua .308 and 7.62x53R. Norma have tighter primer pockets I think
>>65469642Guessing it’s a metric-metric pocket diameter thing
>>65469211>>65469642>>65469659could be good to use once your primer pockets begin to become loose with your usual choice of primers to get a couple more firings out of the brass before you gotta chuck em
>>65468222Depending where you are you may not be able to get optimum powder for 300PRC anyway
>>65457272What do you think the best gun oil is? For me it's corrosionx for guns but perhaps a lube scientist knows more than some retard who reads bottles on the shelf
>>65469272I've read of people doing it with 303s and noticing no difference in speed
>>65469825My own gun oil is the best, gets upgraded to Gen3 the moment the lubricant company I work buys a special new additives so I can snack some for the gun oil>mokasraifus.com/product/nano-gun-oil-universal-50-ml/
>>65469626Loaded several ladder rungs with other bullets based on felt recoil and worked up in increments of 10 ft/lbs…. I’ve got a lot of big bore stuff and I’m pretty used to shooting stuff that kicks…. This was 70 ft/lbs with no brake and 4 shots was enough for me to forgo more until I get a brake on the gun…. Didn’t realize my support hand was coming all the way off till I saw it in slow motion…. Fun, if not sane experience lol
>>65469239how did you find out about them? redit. ok thers your answer. they post on redit frequently to advertise and they even talk like reditors in the comments on various topics
>>65469380does that actually happen to powder if you keep it stored stationary and arent shaking the can like a bottle of juice?
>>65470362looks like a literal star wars blaster
>>65470487Shaking does nothing.Chemical break down causes issues, especially if poorly stored.Trying to find a single pound of M10 is almost impossible now since it had a habit of auto-igniting.
>>65470495Lone eagle, not super common or popular, but it’s neat. Single shot rotary breech.. the actions extremely short so it crams a 14 inch barrel in that footprint
>>65470480>how did you find out about them? redit. ok thers your answerNo I actually found them when looking for frangible .45 bullets. I know nothing about their posts on r*ddit but you apparently do lol
>>65470507so why does ammo from 100 years ago work fine? is this only for certain powders? how safe is my 2020 stockpile of win231 and imr4895
>>65470808Oxygen and water are the great killers of life. The more airtight a capsule of powder is, the better. Storage of that capsule matters heavily. And you and I wouldn’t know if a powder is still good until we fired it.
>>65470808>so why does ammo from 100 years ago work fine?Umm it often doesn’t anon.
>>65469827Speed I would not expect to be as affected as accuracy which is what my question entails.
>>65471998It's all magic to me. I know people handload .30 Lapua Scenars with good results for Finnish M39s which are made to take .312 bullets just like the .303
I habe a question.Is it feasible to use a bulletdesign where sone of the bullets endpart is seated deep inside the powder. Like oic relatedThe idea would be to habe an more favorable aerodinamical shape like a boattail but more.
>>65472177That is an inherently unstable bullet design. Some crazy ass gyro bullshit will have that pointy end facing away from the shooter some distance downrange of the senderhttps://m.youtube.com/shorts/e2q90LDEnvI?ra=m
>>65472205So a bullet that also stabs?
>>65472205Idk, as a composite bullet maybe. Zinc base or something to keep the cg right. Cased telescoped cartridges are already a thing, though, and this wasn't the way
dang
>>65473462Please explain to us noobs
>>65473462Are those very wide cavity hollowpoints?
First time doing straightwall. Are .38/.357 all this snug resizing? Wtf
>>65474725You don’t have to resize the full length, especially if you are firing it in the same revolver. I usually only catch the top half to third.. also carbide or steel dies?
>>65474725Currently belling….. a bit of 38 special…
>>65473462dang indeed
>>65474740Steel
>>65474753What is dang for?
>>65474742>bellingexpanding case mouth?
>>65474789one day it'll happen to you
>>65474787what are you using for a little lube?
>>65474826Yes belling.
>>65473923>>65473927No, just a bad 45 projo that didn't get rounded in the machining process. I was just surprised at how thin the walls of these particular HP projos were.
>>65475010What’ll happen?
What's are some good presses that transfer energy mostly downwards? I live in an apartment and can't bolt shit to the wall, and my understanding of leverage is that most of the traditional presses would transfer energy diagonally, possibly flipping an unsecured bench.
>>65476577Just get a heavy enough bench to secure it? I've had my Lee classic turret press on an old Harbor Freight 18"x18" bench (heavy son of a bitch for it's size, probably because all the legs and supports are metal, but it was cheap on sale at the time) without issue. Your concern is understandable but overblown, if you need Hulk smash! strength on the downstroke of any press something is going horribly wrong.
>>65474740Anon comes in with the protip again. Thanks. I didn’t even think of rechambering the brass and most don’t even need resized at all. Thanks again anon. >>65475160Beeswax/olive oil confection
heads up, republic ammunition has free hazmat again today through the 8th for their labor day promo. no code needed should be automatically applied in checkout
>>65476577Forster coax is pretty good in my experience for this. I have it on a pretty lightweight table and it hardly moves. Much less than my hornady, anyway
.445 supermag barrel came in, brass comes in Friday. Pretty excited.
>>654771901:20 twist rate.. I might be able to stabilize the heavy subsonic 44 mag rounds I was experimenting with…. Also need to get a single screw for grip..
>>65477190>>65477195hell yeah homie. and yeah 1-20 twist rate being the only option is kinda odd. i think ssk industries offers 44mag barrels in 1-16 but then only allows 1-20 on the 445 offering. mgm only does 1-20
>>65477540To be fair, it’s an original Thompson barrel, not sure on the age exactly, but i don’t think fast twist was a big concern back in the day.
>>65476603Even when resizing the case? I thought that required pretty substantial force.
>>65477739they did use 300gr bullets for silhouette shooting so there might have been some desire for a faster twist. but since there arent more offerings in faster rates it shouldnt be too much a concern, especially when using 240scant wait to see what kinda speeds youll be getting so i can then compare tosadly the gun tism is striking again making me want to also get a remington psr chassis to have a new handguard made to make it look like the racs chassis used in the m40a6
>>65477844I’ve got a couple hundred sierra 300gn jsp’s that I’m looking forward to trying them in 445.. also have some 320 gn gas checked hardcasts, and those 505 gn monsters.. out of curiosity, know any books about the calibers for silhouette shooting? It was unfortunately well before my time but I really enjoy the guns that were developed for it.
>>65461934R9k? I dunno.
>>65478004its also well before me but the supermags were developed by elgin gates for silhouette shooting as he found the 357, 41, and 44 mags to not be adequate enough for the further targets so books by him should be a good start
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>>65477785if you need Baby Huey force during resizing you're either not using enough case lube or the case itself is so mangled out of shape you probably shouldn't be resizing it in the first place. The only times I've ever felt like I was risking flipping my bench was not using enough case lube and the cases were sticking and when I was resizing 30-06 brass into 7.7 Arisaka. Unless you build your own bench everything's a compromise, but if you're worried about flipping a bench you'll want more weight, so either buy a heavy bench or weigh it down somehow. If you live in an apartment not on the ground floor hauling that stuff upstairs is another problem, wear a decent back brace and gloves regardless of your age.
>>65477785Buddy make something out of scrap 2x4s and plywood. Steal some pallets if your real desperate. The force that the reloader enacts is largely rotational. It can be freestanding as long as there is enough mass. Affix the freestanding plinth/table to a platform you can stand on to make it a closed system of energy altogether, Like trying to pick up a bucket you’re standing in.
>>65454264Damn haven't seen ZQI in a long time.
>>65478028This but use nutmeg instead.
>>65478028This but fentanyl then dump their body in Portland
>>65445878Any idea if solid lanolin and acetone would work? I've had a pound of solid lanolin that I got from Canada ammo back in the day that I'd love to find a us for.
>>65480657If you try it please post results because I’m >>65474725 and looking for the maximum possible lubricity with these straight little faggots
Well, cast 38 bullets are coming along. Aloxing them now.
What boolet works with .303Br 2-groove No. 4 rifles? Because factory ammo BT bullets do not
>>65484130In what way do they not work? As an Arisaka owner I am also interested in 7.7 reloading knowledge
>>65484296Half of them keyhole... at 50m
>>65484130Long for caliber, flat base, heavy bullets. A softer linotype with a powder coat.Something like (https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1010209946/?pid=562844), shim it with aluminum on one side if it drops too small and then size to 313.Although keyholing might be velocity related, trie powder coating and increasing the charge a couple of grains and watch for cutting.
>>65484371>cutting. Not that anon. What is cutting in this context?
>>65484419Gas cutting. When you try and get too much velocity out of a cast bullet, or the alloy is too soft without a gas check, and the gas cuts through the projectile via the riffling, leaving molten lead in you rifles grooves.Turns your gun into a smooth bore.
>>65484525Thanks. Never heard the mechanism for leading a barrel before. Alway just thought it was from hot smokeless loads melting the slugs ass and it just whipping around the barrel centrifugally
>>65484556>melting the slugs assIt probably does that, but I believe the weakest link is the riffling, and the gas getting past the projectile and creating enough back pressure to leave shit behind. If it didn't it would all just get blown out the end of the barrel anyway.Molten slugs.Powder coating helps a lot. But honestly, if you can't do it with 240gr at 1200fps, you shouldn't be trying:)
>>65484972That’d be some pure fricking lead right there. Should even be used in something more important than hobby firearms
I was reloading some .30-30 with my dad since I haven't done a bottleneck cartridge in a decade and needed some pointers from him. He has an unused Frankford digital powder thrower that he gave me for future use.
What the fug is wrong with that thing? I try to find out OAL with 68gr BTHPs from Hornady and the data spread is bad af. It tells me my 223Wylde chamber fits bullets that arent even reaching the 2.250" OAL from load book. Do i need to order a Ogive Gauge adapter?
Also doesnt that means OAL to book data will hit the lands and cause a pressure spike if the data is correct?
>>65485182Is it telling you that you can fit bullets with a longer OAl than your expecting? Or a shorter? And yeah you’d probably want the ogive adapter since the critical dimension is where the throat hits the bullet and not where the point ends up in the hole.
>>65485414Its telling me that my tested OAL is shorter than Hornadys recommended OAL.i think its time to buy gauges,shit
>>65485010>reloading with dad Wholesome. Like side by side on piano bench? Cuute
>>65485768>Like side by side on piano benchNoooMore like "this is the difference between .45 and .30-30... I'm getting more coffee"
>>65485423I uh don't even know what you're going for here. I mean sure it's supposed to fit anything you load shorter than calibre spec
>>65486926W2C?
new bread>>65488174>>65488174
