What’s your favorite thing about shotguns, anon?Previous Thread: >>65422705
They make high speed low drag fags seethe
>>65496326>shooting clays got me a college scholarship to an absolute dynasty team. olympian Vincent Hancock was a teammate>pump actions are satisfying>They can take just about any game in North America
Tempted to buy an A300 or 940 for my birthday.The 1301 is a little outside of my price range and once I start thinking about spending ~$1500 on a shotgun I may as well just buy a Benelli instead.
>>65496326Versatility; with my single shot shotgun, I can have a rifle (slugs), shotgun, muzzleloader (adapter), and carbine (9mm and 22lr adapter).
I like how they shoot or something
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>>65496397>I may as well just buy a Benelli instead.?? Why so you can spend all that money to blast trash in the desert? Why don’t you buy a shotgun you can actually use for shotgun things?
>>65496326>What’s your favorite thing about shotguns, anon?With just one shotgun you can have a fantastic hunting weapon and it's just a simple barrel swap away from being a fantastic home defense weapon.
MY FAVORITE THING ABOUT SHOTGUNS IS
>>65496501Not him, but I just want ONE shotgun to do it all. And a Benelli M4 seems like the most durable for home defense and blasting shit in the desert. I always wanted to get into clays but I dont feel like dropping 2k on a silver pigeon
>>65496558many gun clubs and trap & skeet ranges will turn you away at the door for showing up with an M4, because they’re retarded boomers that should be put into work camps at gunpoint
>>65496558Benelli M4 is not the shotgun to do it all in the slightest, in fact it only does one thing well, blasting trash in the desert. You’d be better off with a Beretta semi. Shotguns with only 18 in barrels available for them are ass and a gimmick.
>>65496551Shooting soda cans and 2 liters
>>65496610Dude, yes. That is so fun.
>>65496551Absolutely fucking dusting a clay when I trap shoot.
>>65496551gives a good recoil kick while absolutely shredding anything it is pointed atit's just fun
>>65496326I need a 12 gauge hammerless side by side to saw off, what’s a good one to look for besides looking in a pawn shop? I’m also looking for a model that doesn’t get compromised from sawing into the stock
>>65496608>Shotguns with only 18 in barrels available for them are ass and a gimmickIt also has 14" barrels available :^)Jokes aside, that is a good point... why is there no long barrel available for the M4?
>Want a 1301/A300>But also want a Benelli M4Also where the fuck are the all black M4 EXTs?
>>65496501What are you thinking then?
>>65496608>Shotguns with only 18 in barrels available for them are assCorrect
>>65496686Shotguns don’t really benefit from long barrels unless you’re doing something specific like sporting with a bead sightAn M4 is perfectly fine for sporting clays and trap/skeet, I do it all the time
>>65496772No clays or trap range I have been to would allow it, the minimum barrel length is 24in for most and the longest M4 barrel is 18in. Why they don’t make an extended sporting barrel is beyond me, my buddy has the opposite problem with his Browning Maxus 2, spare barrels are like 2/3 of the gun’s price and he would like a shorter barrel for field work in brush hunting doves, doesn’t exist. Nice shotgun, very soft shooting but I couldn’t recommend it for a non-hunter, overheats too quickly for range use.
>>65496763I like my 18inch barrel. 18 is enough
>>65496772I'll tell ya one thing and I'm not ashamed to say it. My estimation of Father Figure as a man, just fucking skyrocketed
>>65496820>No clays or trap range I have been to would allow it, the minimum barrel length is 24in for most and the longest M4 barrel is 18inyeah this is a private gun club and they fudge the rules slightly for some peopleI doubt it'd sell well enough to make it economical especially when 90% of the M4's features aren't really relevant to sporting and would cannibalize some of benelli's other shotguns' market share anyway
I want a cool sxs gun for fun, must have>rib>wood>no external hammers>double trigger>not turkish>short barrels (more than 12", less than 19")>chokes would be cool but not mandatory
>>65496927Fuck i forgot >auto ejectors
>>65496927>short barrels (more than 12", less than 19"You arent going to find this. Nobody sells that shit unless its actually a sbr from the factory.The min is 20 for break action cause its possible to not make 26 overall in a firable condition with an 18
>>65496820>minimum barrel lengthThat's the fuddiest thing I've ever heard. Why would a range care about your barrel length? Is this a northern thing? I've never been to a range in the south that cared.
>>65497141That’s hot. Imagine an frt with that sucker.
>>65497374Sorry I don’t just blast dirt clods out back the crick Cleetus, sometimes it’s fun to go to a planned sporting clays course, and those places have a thing called rules, kinda like how they have down at the NASCAR track now.
>>65497432This. Minimum barrel length at every club I've been to is 24/26 inches.
>>65497374Fudds don't want your confounded assault weppins and your gotdamn weppins of war around their lil sewing circle
>>65496673Most shotguns made after like 1900 use a stock bolt instead of tangs, but as long as you measure and make sure you cut it off past the head of the bolt you'll be fine. Yeah just keep scouring gun shops and pawn shops until you find a beat up old stevens or no-name hardware shotgun. Protip: dont use a 12ga they kick too much IMO. Honestly 28 gauge would be ideal if you dont care about ammo availability
>>65497503You can have both. Just please don't bring >>65497141 to shoot clays with...You can call it fuddy, but it's a legitimate sport with rules. Fucking FITASC even has a dress code along with barrel length and ammunition restrictions.
>>65497450Huh, all this talk about minimum barrel length made me look up the local rules.The very serious club I'm a member of allows all shotguns that meet rules of the sports they practice.There are lots of odd rules about the shotguns allowed, but funnily enough only one of the four nationally recognized clay shooting sports specifies a minimum barrel length, set at 66cm (26").As far as I can tell, that means a gun like (pic rel) is 100% allowed for most forms of clay pigeon shooting over here. Which means that someone who owns a shotgun explicitly licensed for sport shooting would be legally allowed to hacksaw the barrels down to like 10" (or less) without filing any paperwork of any kind.Pretty fucking wild. I've never personally seen short-barreld shotguns used outside of dynamic "tactical" shooting sports over here.But apparently it's super easy to get an SBS on a regular sporting license.I need to dig deeper into this. If it really is this easy, I might just buy some shitty old double-barrel and cut it down to a coach gun, just as a range toy.
>his shotgun doesn't have a 34" barrelLmaoing @ ur lyfe
>>65497523Those rules apply to any organization sanctioned event. Even if the governing boy has no rule, the club where the shoot is held might.I've been shooting competitively at the national level since I was 12. I'm 34 now. I have seen people bring out camo'd ~20" barreled mossies to shoot trap a handful of times. Never stubby double barrels. Autos only get a pass because of the longer receivers
>>65497540If I remember, this is a 24" 12ga Browning Gold Hunter
>>65497518>Now buddy don't you dare bring anything under 48 inches in total length or anything with a capacity above 2 shells. AND DONT CALL US FUDDS
>>65496820>maxus II>28">acting like thats unwieldy Sonny, our ancestors were shooting birds out of the air with 50"+ barreled flintlocksAnything 30 and under IS a brush gun length IMO
>>65497547Fine, bring your 10" sawed off and hit a 65 yard chandelle. I'd be glad for you to try.It's not that you CAN'T bring it, it's just that nobody would take you seriously as a competitor.
>>65497518>wear a shirt that isnt sleeveless >wear close toed shoes>dont wear booty shorts Ugh so restrictive
>>65497558Didn't say it was, just that they troubled to have a dress code
>>65497558Thats it? I thought it would be like>trousers must have at least three pleats per sideOr something kek
>>65497558>>wear a shirt that isnt sleeveless...Or V-necked (exclusively worn by obnoxious douchebags).At least that's the dress code for shotgun sports over in Euroland.
>>65497554Mine is 18 inches first of all FUDD. Secondly I'm not paying club fees to a bunch of boomers doing essentially golf of the firearms community
>>65497432>now sonny, I was a cook in the navy for 3 months before I got a medical discharge, you don't need one of those assault weapons of war. All you need, sonny, is this here o/u with a 78" barrel. Two shots at the ceiling, and would be burglars will run away after they have their way with you.Calm down Tim Walz, inches on your barrel doesn't add inches to your dick.
>wdym you wont let me play golf with my baseball bat? FUCKING FUDDS REEEEE. I dont even like golf anyway, boomer sport dumb
>fudds madKek
>>65497635>he says in the fudd threadSeriously, we get to talking about sporting clays and people start whining for literally for no reason. It is a game. Games have rules. Don't like the rules? Don't play the game. Simple
>>65497642Like it or not, the faggy orange vest and stupid had are forever enshrined in fudd culture. There's nothing wrong with shooting clays other than the fact that people who dress like knobs when they do it act like they're better than everyone else, even though trailer park trash has been shooting clays with a 50 dollar cabela's launcher and a 20" maverick 88 for an eternity.
>>65497632most golf courses will absolutely let you play golf with a baseball bat because everyone but prissy florida boomers will think it's hilariousit's also allowed by the rules of golf if it doesn't put you over 14 clubstrap & skeet boomers are some of the most noxious soccer moms of any sport>>65497642the solution is to do like I did and stick a suppressor on the end of your 1301 to meet the OAL requirements and make the o/u boomers assmad
>>65497554>bring your 10" sawed off and hit a 65 yard chandelleyou do realize that lots of SBSs come with threading for chokes, right?
>>65497632>long barrel shotgun / short barrel shotgun>golf club / baseball batDo fudds really? That's an abysmal analogy.
>>65497554Oh no, you mean some boomer fudd like this won't take me seriously? Fuck, I guess I better find a discarded washing machine in the forest and shoot at it.
>>65497558>Ugh 24" barrels so restrictive
>>65497580It is the golf of the firearms community...you can compete in multiple sports. I have other guns, not just an O/U>>65497681Yea, but not if you hack off the barrel down to 10"...do you read? Even if you install chokes into a 10" barrel, you're not hitting a 60yd teal>>65497711That's the amateur hour version of the sport, sure. I was coached by and competed with Olympic tier shotgun shootersThis is Morgan Craft. She was a year behind me. Went to Rio for team USA
>>65497693>right tool for the job/wrong tool for the job>durr apples to oranges
>>65497756>right tool for the job/wrong tool for the jobyou can play an entire 18 hole course with a 9 iron in fact I've watched golfers push casual guys' shit in doing exactly thisthe specific reason people are bitching about the barrel length rule is because it's 100% just a way to softlock poors and ratchet people out so that they don't show up with a mossberg 500 and a backpack full of steel BB shot and ruin the vibe for boomerswhich I don't disagree with in principle, but if I throw a choke on my 1301 tac, I will be able to do everything you want me to on a course perfectly fine and safely
>>65497769>if I throw a choke on my 1301 tac, I will be able to do everything you want me to on a course perfectly fine and safelyCan, but won't This "record" was set by beating George Dig weed's 130yd shot that he made with standard clays ammo. This guy did it with XR extended range ammo and a red dothttps://youtu.be/fv7RzK15MX0?is=S9dNJFNtLOn2RROQ
>>65497787Digweed's*
>>65497739Posting mine cuz why not
>>65497787>Can, but won'tI don't understand, is your argument essentially that because I can't make intermediate caliber rifle-range hits with birdshot, I can't use my 1301 tac to shoot trap and skeet in the 16-50 yard range?I'm losing maybe 100ft/sec of muzzle velocity with 18 inches and no meaningful accuracyor, in golf terms, because I can't hit a bryson dechambeau 430 yard bomb drive, I can't bring a shitty driver to the range to hit balls for the love of the game?
>>65497819Sure you can. I used to shoot an 1100 and a girl on the university team shit trap with a camo mossy. But when you get to higher tiers of competition (with any sport) people use equipment that is tailor made to the sport. I switched from the Gold Hunter because it was malfunctioning too much. In NSCA you get 2 gun/ammo malfunctions. After that, each other malfunction counts as a lost target.
>>65497739Why does PB have to shit up every single gen on /k/?
>>65497819FF is consistently based. 18in supremacy
>>65497374One of the legit reasons ive heard is noise complaints. An 18s louder than a 28.
>>65497956WE'RE SO DEEP IN THE REACHL O LOL
>>65497948Wtf is PB
>>65497956The genius city planners here put a housing track just behind the clays range, the clays range that’s open till 8pm 3 nights a week…. What kind of retard would live there idk but it’s a thing.
>>65497111I'm a leaf.
>>65496608The Benelli M4 is literally the do all shotgun barring competition where youd need a specific shotgun anyways like somen 12 shot monstrocity or a boomer over and under
>>65498012Because the people living there will complain so much that the club will have to cut their hours if not shutdown altogether. Happened to a club here
>>65497739Chokes are the only thing that matter in a shotguns spread. This has been talked about to death already. If youre talking about the bead, a red dot sight takes care of that too
>>65497858No you cant bozo. Thats the whole point of the retarded rules. And lots of ranges wont allow you to use a 18 inch shotgun even if its just you practicing at their range, they wont let you use the facility. And noise complaints cant possibly be it either when the range is in the middle of nowhere, not that 18 to 26 inches makes much difference in noise anyways. I had to buy a retarded boomer nigger cheap shotgun, inferior to my low recoiling reliable semi auto, just to take my kids to shoot clays. But I kinda get it. They dont want rednecks or inner city nigs/beaners with mossberg 88s there. I guess its a small price to pay to keep away grown men who wear sneakers and shorts
What would you hide under if you had to get the drop on someone in your own home?
>>65498161Starting a skeet club with a maximum barrel length of 20 inches. Sneakers and shorts will be required to participate
>>65498287federal flite control buck only and 100 yards immediately downrange are several ten-story low income apartment buildings
>>65498287Will make a lot of money here in Cali
>>65498287This, but instead of skeet, we launch discarded, rusty appliances into the air.Mullets are mandatory.
>>65498299I'm starting to like you more than Burt
>>65496326Putting a smile on my face when I shoot oneMaking people seethe because they are not the "meta"Being kinda old-fashioned, but still relevant>>65496608>Benelli M4 is not the shotgun to do it all in the slightest, in fact it only does one thing well, blasting trash in the desert.They are decent shotguns for 3 gun.>>65496820>Why they don’t make an extended sporting barrel is beyond meOne of the Turkshit manufacturers might. I remember seeing something online once.>>65498287Based.I just wanna blast some clay pigeons, not have to suck up to some asshole boomers and their faggy rules.I don't want to have to buy a new shotgun to try something I might not even end up liking.
>>65496326You posted a side by side sidehammer.Today OP was not a fag. To answer your question any break action gun or semi auto, interchangeable chokes, versatility of ammunition, definitely the most actual useful and practical firearm type there is for farmers, hunters and outdoosmen. Can shoot drones..Some of the fineest examples of gunsmithing ever made, Can kill anything that walks or crawls or flies on the face of the earth. And for me, my first gun at 9 was a 12 gague semi auto (browning).
>>65498684Being around boomers in general is a burden. Having to follow boomer gun rules is something no human should suffer
>>65496338That and they are objectively devastating. >>65496397I’ve seen some blem Gen 2 1301’s for like $1300. A 1301 would ideally be my next semi but I’d never outshoot an A300. >>65496608While not “do it all”, 14” barrels do what I need them to do. My 18” with ghost rings is accurate with slugs to 100Y. >>65496763Based desu.
Seriously though, how do I fix the stock?
>>65501323>file broken area flat>glue on new piece of wood>file and sand it to the correct shape>use a wood chisel (or some kind of rotary tool) to hollow out the inside until it fits(There should be a mm or two of clearance between the stock and the back of the receiver, or it'll split/chip again)>stain it until the color roughly matches the rest of the stock>rub some linseed oil on it>try to not burn your house down with spontaneously self-igniting linseed oil rags??????????>profit
>>65501356Thank you m, Mr. Anon! I really appreciate that. I’d feel a lot better about shooting it once I can get it fixed. Then maybe I can figure out why the stock wiggles up and down.I’m pretty sure it’s a “NID” Ithica made in 1926.
I just drunk-drove to go get more beer, which I'm an expert at, and on the way back I saw a dude strutting down the sidewalk with a stockless pistol grip shotgun, ~18-20'' barrel, carrying it in one hand. Guy is white, bald, bearded, bulky build, tight t-shirt. It's dark out. This is the most densely packed area of what was once a small town. Where is he going?
>>65496673Find a savage stevens 311, they're good guns and you can get them for 500ish
>>65502427What happened
>>65502427He's definitely gonna go shoot his wife
>>65496610>liters
The general consensus is that the pistol grip sucks for shotgun, right? It hurts the wrist?
>>65503852If it's just a pistol grip then yes it does suck. If it has a stock then it's ok.
>>65503871The mossberg pump included a pistol grip (no stock) so I was curious
>>65503852It sucks compared to other options but hurts the wrist is debatable. People act like shockwave/birdsheads are great but they still suck just sightly less. We've all seen vids where somebody drops a pho or shockwave when they shoot it. Both are ass compared to a stock.
>>65499474>objectively devastating.There's no evidence to suggest a 12 gauge does any more tissue damage than 5.56. Clint Smith boomerfuddery aside, 556 will also physically remove a chunk of flesh at the right distance with the right ammo, but also with nearly zero recoil and a 30 round magazine. And with some armor penetration. Even a 12 gauge slug can't pen 3a.
>>65505410Trash blaster mall ninja tacticool larper 20" barrel cletus???
>>65503852I shot my 870 from the hip yesterday, and the stock is basically shaped like a birdshead grip. It was extremely comfortable with 8 pellet buckshot, but accuracy was nowhere to be seen. I have trigeminal neuropathy, so getting a cheek weld on a 12 gauge is basically impossible for me. If people like Bob munden can be so accurate shooting pistols from the hip, surely a 12 gauge is doable with enough practice.
>>65505410wearing 3a for a slug fight is going to still end in your death
>>65497374None of the ranges I've been to in New Jersey have really cared beyond a "you're probably not going to do too well with that, but have fun" when I would bring my 18" 870. There was one time where an official came over to check to make sure I was using target load because I had a visible fireball out the end of the barrel because we were shooting at dusk. Once he saw my ammo was fine and it was the barrel length he was cool. Clays with a no choke 18in is kinda fun it turns into a game of reflexes more than the aim/form of normal trap shooting.
>>65506576Cool, but I have 30 rounds of death, zero recoil, in a lighter, shorter gun. 12 gauge has zero advantages of a bottom of the barrel ar-15.
>>65506648maybe but a shotgun is cooler
>>65506648>Comes to the shotgun thread>Shitposts about his walmart ARShotgun bros don't do this to your fuckass gens
>>65506717Because they can't lol. Shotguns are objectively inferior in every metric except for style.
>>65507156>style.That's all that matters.
>>65507195If this is true, and it is, then all shotguns should be 12" pgo.
>>65507156>Small game hunting>FPV drone skeet shooting>Ammunition variety >AestheticAgain>Comes to shotgun general>Shitposts about walmart bin ar'sMaybe consider killing yourself or stay in your containment gen
>>65507230>fpv drone shootingYeah, so many videos of people successfully shooting drones with them. Shooting a drone divebombing you at 90 mph is just like shooting a clay pigeon >varietyAll garbage unless you're a redneck that has to eat birds because he's poor>Walmart arShotguns are literally Walmart tier poverty except for o/us and semis. Literally every pump is poverty tier. My first shotgun literally came from k-mart.
36 inch barrel H&R 10 gauge.
>>65496326I've got an old Enders Royal Service 12ga side-by-side. Think it came from my great grandfather. Google says it was sold is ol' St Louis which does check out, as far as I know. I love the thing just for the aesthetic and the family history. It's got the hammers on it too, so double cool. Not about to shoot it any time soon though. I've never dealt with a side-by-side before and there's a good deal of wiggle when the thing is locked. Maybe some day when I have the money I'll take it to get looked at. I'd love to get some old style brass/paper shells and go shooting with it.
>>65507515I need a little more firepower than that, that's why I got the 12 gauge
>>65507404>k-mart shotgunSame here, I got a 3" wingmaster for like, 225 or something way the fuck back in the 90s from k-mart.
>>65507515I want one of these then I realize I've never seen 10 gauge for sale in any gun or sporting goods store I've ever been in even though I (albeit rarely) see 16 and 28 ga from time to time
>>65507515This thing is Elmer fudd incarnate.
>>65507964We can go bigger
>>65507959It came with one box of ammo. I only take it out for turkey hunting so it will last a while. I don't recommend 10 gauge but I like the absurdity of it
>>65508122I'm actually building* a 10 gauge muzzleloader, so the only 10ga specific stuff I would need to buy is wads. I just wanted le xbox hueg big fuckoff long gun*I haven't made any progress in over a year
>>65507404>Shooting a drone divebombing you at 90 mph is just like shooting a clay pigeonclay shooter here. sometimes at events a group will bring an R/C plane they call the "Gnat." it has little explosive cups on it that pop and smoke when hit. they dive it 25 yards from the shooting pads and we shoot. they clocked it at 100mph+. me, my brother, and a buddy destroyed the thing on the first pass of 5, all with O/Usi believe it can be done.
>>65508190It absolutely can, there's footage from undertrained neverhunts nevershoots in eastern europe doing it under combat stress. The dude is just here to shit up the gen. Don't take him seriously
>>65508190Probably because you aren't in a war zone and you know it's coming. You Probably even know where it's coming from. In a shit ton of drone footage, nobody even sees it coming.
>conflating >still not in his containment genClean it up
>>65496551
Trying to draw and I needed an 1887 ref pic, so I might as well bring out all my fudd guns.I love them.>>65507515>>65507987I need a big bore shotgun with a yard long barrel, one day hopefully.
>>65508356I'm sure it's doable, maybe even reliably doable, but probably not without an m4 or some such semi auto, with anti drone ammo, which i believe benelli has patented, along with a barrel that they claim increases velocity. What people here fail to realize is that you have to be ready to fire before you even fucking hear it coming, by then it's already within 150 yards. You're also shooting at something that will kill you if you miss, and 9/10 times, you're better off trying to dodge behind something. I wouldn't trust my anti-drone gunner with my life. I fly freestyle fpv drones, and you can't even hear some of my 4" prop drones until they're within 200 yards or so. Add all of the wartime confusion on top of that, the fact that your shotgunner may have his weapon slung on his back or something, and the fact that he knows missing = certain death, and that hiding is way safer and easier. It's easy for a fudd to say he can shoot a drone at the gun range when he knows exactly when and where it's coming from, and that he won't die if he misses. And also consider that probably most Ukrainians don't shoot skeet every weekend, and probably are not that good with a shotgun. The people here that claim they never miss are also the people claiming they shoot at an Olympic level.
>>65508356Fair pointYou'd have to always be ready and/or develop some early warning/sighting system.>The future of infantry is upland bird hunting
>>65496326...
>Replying to the baiting noguns jeet for what gain?
>>65509762
Is it worth it to put a red dot on a shotty?
>>65510897If you desire better accuracy through single focal plane aiming then yeah
>>65510897Beads good enough. Even on tactical shotguns, but people get ghost ring sights because they look cool.
>>65505410I know it’s a little Clint Smithy, but most people don’t walk away from solid buckshot or slug hits. And yes 5.56’of various flavors can be just as good or better. That’s why I have an SBR with 75 gr. Gold Dots and an M1 SBS next to the nightstand.
>>65506624I only went to one range when I lived in NJ and my 870 at the time had a folding wire stock and they were big no on shooting from the hip. But the owner was a notorious crank.
>>65511262Cucked range
AA Class, #15 in country, 2 X Cap's for England in Skeet, county champion, doubles champion>AMA
>>65514571How many dicks have you sucked?
>>65514996Only a thing a dicklet would askI'm too fat to do it myself, tiny dick, massive balls
>>65514571Last time you saw it?
>>65515052When I pulled it out your mother this morning and wiped it on the curtains on the way out
>>65515001Why don't you own an ar-15?
>>65515069cos 357 lever gats are cooler
I'm buying a MAC1014 and there's nothing you can do to stop me.
>>65515161Cope harder britbong.do you know of your countryman John Woolley? He coached me in sporting clays before I got a scholarship to shoot in collegealso...do you shoot "international" skeet? like the version in the Olympics?
Picked this up for $30 after haggling down from $5012ga bolt action savage/springfield, missing magazine sadlyHas already had some cracks and shit repaired
>>65502427That's just Gator. He was walking to Twisties to pick up Cheyenne and Mama.
>>65515161Kek his nation is cucked beyond recognition, point and laugh
>>65515056>your mother I have two dads, you faggot. Which one did you fuck?
>>65515820I don’t think you could’ve went wrong honestly. That’s really cool, friend.
Any cross-eye dominant shooters here? Do you shoot with one eye closed?
Hoping that the Mossberg 990 SPX factory SBS comes choke compatible and is reliable both when fired from the shoulder and hip. >>65496772+1Picture related. Other than maximizing kinetic energy on target, longer barrels really serve little to no purpose IMO.
