Is the Strv. 123 basically just a Leo 2A8 with a localized name?
Why are they holding a big blue sperm cellooo it's a key
looks like a tank to megreen type
Improved top armor like the other swede versions have.
>>65507314But why?
It also gets a stupid camo and other stuff but you can search for that yourself
>>65507248yes but it lacks arguably the most important upgrade, Trophy APS.
>MBT 123AYou didn't even try.
>>65508829???The 12 is the caliber in centimeters and 3 means that it's the third tank in service in that caliber.
>>65507412Because sweden has hilly & forested terrain where highly armored tanks are hard to beat
>>65507412in euro countries the local mic always wants in on arms deals so every euro country that buys the leopard will put local modifications on it. its basically a lobbying spiel.
>>65508829kek
>>65508829Just call it the M1 so everyone will know
>>65508886>Because sweden has hilly & forested terrain where highly armored tanks are hard to beatDoesnt stop drones from diving on them. Sweden buys these tanks becasue Sweden doesnt have its own MIC and its armed force's officer corps consists of the same kind of people who become muncipal employees. They have no clue what they are doing.
>>65509564>Sweden doesnt have its own MIC
>>65509564saab installs communication, computers and electronic warfare equipment in the stridswagen. sweden insisted on saab doing this.completely retarded and will backfire horribly whenever those swedish tanks have to function outside of the swedish military with vehicles from other countries. but thats europe for you.
>>65509664>saab installs communication, computers and electronic warfare equipment in the stridswagen. sweden insisted on saab doing this.completely retarded and will backfire horribly whenever those swedish tanks have to function outside of the swedish military with vehicles from other countriesThats literally every NATO country ever, and they are able to operate together without any issues.Because you know, STANAG's are a thing...
prolly but without the APSperhaps because trophy is israeli?
>>65509903>what is eurothropy
>>65510003do you think all the parts are made in europe? or that the profits from it don't go to rafael and elta?
>>65509569Boom boom for the CV90120https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GihFlk9nXpo
>>65514421https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyD0liioY8E
why does Sweden make /k/ seethe so much?
>>65514497because sweden is pretty much the opposite of the US, it's a small country with just 10million people, left leaning, welfare state, no military culture. but still does well in just about everything most burger on /k/ care about, high ownership of firearms, competent army, fairly self sufficient MiCit's like Israel but with all the other things about it being "wrong" for those that love to bitch about them
>>65514424What's going on with the FS2020? Brazil bought full rights to all the tech when they bought the Gripen. It seems like they do really want to develop them but there's been literally no news about it since 2022 and you get blocked for asking about it.
>>65514501>competent armyLol, lmao... Europe boutique army can't fight in real wars.
>>65514501Using taxes to fund things like universal healthcare isn’t left-leaning. Banning private property and confiscating capital to fund a military machine to endlessly antagonize neighbors is left-leaning.
>>65514541>Banning private property and confiscating capital to fund a military machine to endlessly antagonize neighborsSounds like the US.
>>65514505>What's going on with the FS2020?It was just a study, its dead and buried since years ago.
>>65507248Strv 123A is old Strv 122s renovated to 2A8 standard. 123B is new-built ones. And yes, its just a local name, a lot of countries have local names for vehicles and weapons to suit the local language.
>>65508793IIRC we havent decided what system to go for yet, and Sweden is pretty damn anti-Israel at the moment, so it wouldnt even be possible.
>>65514501>no military culturePretty much every male except for some younger generations have been conscripted (and something like 90% of people say they enjoyed their time in), so Id say there is a military culture, just a very different one.
>>65514515>Europe boutique army can't fight in real wars.True, modern working equipment is a meme and everyone should go full North Korea. >Inb4 I summon Norktard
>>65507248The Strv123A (the REMO vehicle) is said to be about the same config as the Leo2A7, as far as the internals go. The Strv123B (newbuilt) is closer to the CPA Leo2A8 config, but not delivered with the Trophy MV, which is standard in the A8. The swedes are not tying themself to the Trophy as of yet, expecting that future APS will offer more potential and that the Trophy as of now is a bit of a dead end. They are going with Iron Fist on their next CV90's so its not like the idea of buying Israeli tech is a dealbreaker
>>65514640He's probably preoccupied on corophagia threads on gif
>>65508889>Most viable way to defeat modern MBT is attacking top armor>Extra top armor is just bs
>>65516309It's coprophagia.
