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>>65516269First for HK
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the glock 42 isn't gay stop saying that
>>65516285no, but u r*dabs*
Another USP general?
>>65516285shame it only fits 6
I really like the P226 and I want to shoot it more
Name the next handgun you're interested in buying and the person below you gives you their thoughts on it. I'll start:S&W CSX-E 3.6"
>>65516378Colt Python or CZ=75
>>65516378West German Sig 226
>>65516382Get a MK25, its really good
>>65516269My friend just bought an Expert and I kind of didn't like itBut I have tiny hands, it's a huge gun even in 9mm
>>65516382>>65516380Good taste
Just ordered the SIG P365 XL Rose at Cabela's my first gun. I like the color and engravings. How'd I do?
>>65516385Based. I prefer Beretta M9 but the MK25 version of the P226 is basedI'm thinking of a FN handgun. LGS has a FN 309 MRD on hand for $370. Anyone have experience with it?
>>65516378another glock 19 to hide in the attic and immediately forget about
>>65516395It's alright and also obligatory uragay
>>65516395It's basically the definitive edc and has been for a while now. The rose shit is gay but it won't make a difference. Just be sure you are aware the trigger return spring is a consumable part, but it's poss cheap and easy to swap
>>65516398>I'm thinking of a FN handgunI'm not too interested in them besides the Five seveN, 545, 509, or Hi Power
>>65516395está chido
>>65516378I have a few.>M9A4, or just buying a lot of stuff for the 92 I already have. >Chiappa Rhino >unironically a Desert Eagle, although my hands are probably way too small to even hold it>Steyr A2 MF
>>65516409Oh damn I forgot about the M9A4 as wellI really want one as my suppressor host, red dot host, and overall HD gun
>>65516378Rhino 60DS match master because it’s hilariously ostentatiousThat or an 1875 outlaw in .45LC, I am feeling the revolver itch>>65516395The engraving on the stippling reminds me of the big penis drawing from that scene in the big lebowski >>65516378I like how it looks>>65516380>>65516382All extremely tasteful and demure choices
>>65516406509 is also on my radar. Seems a SCAR 17S + FN 509 is the modern day FN FAL and Browning Hi-Power pairing
Range Rebort #2:Okay it's pretty sweetNo more malfunctions of any type. Another ~250 rounds. Accuracy is noticeably better than the Springfield across the board. Local range female (confirmed) preferred the lighter recoil spring and extended slide stop on the Kimber for manipulation but preferred the slightly smaller and better rounded grip on the Poverty
>>65516378I don't really want another handgun. Next is an AK. I got my dream pistol and a micro-compact first
>>65516429Buy a Beryl if you want 5.56x45 AKOtherwise, suck it up and pony up the dough for 7.62x39Or maybe go buckwild and buy a Zastsva M76 in 8mm Mauser
>>65516429I feel youMy next guns are extremely likely to be a built CETME, Beretta 1301, and a Benelli M4
>>65516311Based
>>65516285It's not gay it's for women.
>>65516442Women like dickLiking dick is gayWomen are gayGlock 42 is therefore gay
380 is a man's caliber
>>65516395Honestly a cute gun. Btw I'm gay
>>65516448This is probably why more than a few dudes sucked girldick irl.
>>65516449TypoI meant 308
>>65516409What caliber for the deagle?
>>65516415Did Bungie rip this off too for destiny?
>>6551651199% sure Hawkmoon was in Destiny 1 way before Chiappa conceived of this variation of the 60DS
>>65516430Yeah that's what sucks. You can get a decent ar for under 800$ but you can only get bottom of the barrel ak's at that same price point>>65516432Hot choices
>>65516378Hi-Power. Need to do a lot of thinking on exactly which one I want, though.>Big money for FN? Or cheap out on FEG or FM?>Old small sights or big MK III sights?>Polished and blued or parkerized and painted?>Spur hammer or ring hammer?So many choices.
>>65516525I personally love my springfield and have heard a lot of good about the inglis, if you want to consider a middle of the road option.
>>65516378I've been on the lookout for an old Colt Official Police for a while now, if I come across one in the wild that'll be my next for sure. Otherwise, I've been interested in something .22, maybe a 22/45 or a bearcat would be fun
>>65516531The Springfield now has polished blue options
>>65516378Either a 3.1" inch CSX-E, or a P226 Elite. I desperately need something I can put a dot on.>>65516525Protip FN is dumping new stock of Hi Powers, I've seen them for like $600 all over the place. They're going to discontinue it or modify it in some way soon.
>>65516578Hi powers or High powers?
>>65516378CZ P-10 F OR probably
>>65516590High powers, my bad.https://skidtactical.com/firearms/fn-america/fn-america-high-power-single-action-only-4-7-9mm-17-rounds-adjustable-sights-flat-dark-earth/
>>65516465Probably just 357 desu.
i'm not dry firing like i should be
>>65516679I already shoot .357 Magnum revolvers so I've always wanted a nice railless .357 DE
Pffft, coward
>>65516740>i bought the wrong holster and its their fault
>>65516378Trp operator .45
>>65516713Yeah, me too anon. I noticed really really great improvements in my splits and shot placement when I did dry fire indexing like Ben Stoger reccomended in some video I watched and I need to get back to doing that more instead of getting complacent.>>65516578>Protip FN is dumping new stock of Hi Powers, I've seen them for like $600 all over the place. They're going to discontinue it or modify it in some way soonNTA but this is a good tip.
>>65516809So this is either Ben or PB
>it's called a handgun, not a handsgun!On a scale of 1-10, how would you rate yourself at operating your favorite handgun one-handed?
>>65516269I just bought an LEO trade in G47 for the express purpose of using the frame to make a G23X. A G45 in .40 S&W. Been dun befo but I want something different.
>>65516669>flat gay earth
>>65516836I haven't posted Stoeger in /hg/ for quite some time. I don't argue about electronic vs mechanical sights anymore and have always conceded that pistol optics are superior for target shooting. Contrary to popular belief, I didn't invent wall posting and stopped doing it ages ago. I keep seeing anons accused of being me when they don't even include /hg/ images at all much less of EA or SEA women. Also, he misspelled Ben's surname. The insight I've gained from dry fire is that having arthritis makes it difficult to maintain a shooting stance which compromises sight picture.>>65516846They're called pistols, anon.
Just got promoted to management. Gonna be wearing a collared shirt, neck tie and dress shoes now. I am currently using a poor losers gun (glock), what's a handgun that's more appropriate for an above-median-income successful boss?
>>65516915Staccato:^)
>>65516915>>65516934Unironically. Give them a taste of the good life on their way to the next.
>>65516915
Beretta 92FS Brigadier. Non picatinny railLGS has one for $600, comes with 3 mags, appears to be in very good condition.Sneed it or chuck it?
>>65516269I just picked up a walther CCP M2 used from a gunshop. Don't like guns, but a legitimately insane person made death threats and apparently if you are a veteran, written death threats aren't enough of a reason to take you in if you don't have a gun in your house. I've put about 300 rounds through it and it makes me quite uncomfortable but I've been practicing hours a day with pulling it from my holster, flicking off the safety and point shooting center mass at some targets around my home and I am getting it where I want it about 95% of the time and doing pretty well at 15 yards with actual bullets 9 or 10 ring for most shots, although I'm still blinking when I fire and having trouble anticipating the shot a little bit, so it's hard for me to dump a clip. I'm also a little uncomfortable with the concept of drawing a live gun at the range to practice firing safely with a loaded gun, but I know I must learn this. Did this freak the hell out of anyone else? I think I have always had a phobia and immersion is only kind of working. any tips on not shitting myself and shaking this off? I know I need more range time
>>65516968Well you're already better off then 95% of handgun owners. I would recommend finding an instructor you trust and feel comfortable around and taking a 1 on 1 class
>>65516441How do you like the TLR-3? I've been wanting to find a more modern light that attaches directly to the rail but theres pretty much nothing out there. I sold my UTL with the lumens upgrade and the KAC silencer but still holding on to my 45 tactical. pic related
>>65516984What do you mean? Do most people purchase them and not learn to operate them? I have found that I know many gun owners, and they have told me insane things, like keep one in the chamber, safety off. If I mishandle the weapon while drawing it, I could shoot my cock off. I have seen a lot of this online, as well and I can't tell if people are crazy and deeply unsafe, walking around constantly with a chambered round ready to be a hero if they smell crime, but it seems pretty terrifying. Maybe a lot of that is me putting my fear onto it, but I've dropped my phone. I've gotten my toe snagged and broken it. I'm exceptionally coordinated, but I've made mistakes and while I'm excellent in a panic and decisive, I still feel like learning all the motions to go from safe to unsafe very quickly is just wiser. but I also drive the speed limit and stop before I turn, so maybe I'm some kind of retarded faggot. I will have to see if I can find someone smart to work with me. I know a guy who was LEO, maybe he isn't an idiot about guns.
>>65516281Are .45 ACP combat pistols a meme?
>>65517119what would the meme be...? two world wars, runs great out of the box for silencers.. USPs and mark23 can handle 45 super...
>>65517126Yeah, but they say 9mm is just as good as 45ACP now. And suppressors at pistol combat ranges aren't really going to hide you.
>>6551713345 super could take a bear down. 9mm isn't going to do that. Anyways is a smith and wesson 686 a decent revolver?
>>65517150This is possibly the most stereotypical noguns post I've ever seen
I've taken down multiple kodiaks with 9mm and .22.
>>65516378CZ Rami
>>65517225On paper, the Rami is everything I want in a carry piece. In practice, it's a basically a full-size duty pistol with a very short barrel. I might as well just carry a full-size
>>65516378Archon Type B
>>65517284I want one of those too.
>>65516968>blinking>anticipatingKeep practicing, you'll be fine. As long as you aren't blinking every shot and making it some kind of anxiety tic. >Did this freak the hell out of anyone else?Not personally but I had some pretty close calls so I'm much more respectful of safety than I was when I was younger. Be mindful. You can still have fun just don't blow your dick off or accidentally shoot your neighbor. >clip>>65517089>like keep one in the chamber, safety offDepends on the firearm. It's not an insane thing. DA/SA have a heavier DA trigger pull and modern handguns in general have a few internal safety mechanisms.
>>65517083Honestly I wouldn't bother. I had originally got it for the USPc, but 170 lumens and shitty controls just isn't worth it. Here's that same USP currently.
>>65516968You got a piece of shit gun, honestly. Just practice, keep the safety on because you don't have another safety on that thing, and pray your ammo doesn't nosedive
>>65516836Nah, just me getting more complacent the less free time I have. It's not a good thing and I need to work on it more, but I'm currently in Kentucky for a rock festival so it will have to wait even longer.
So .40 unironically has better terminal performance than 9mm right?
>>65517473No, its actually worse, that's why everyone stopped using it.
>>65517473Yes with nuances. Quality 9mm +p hollows perform as good as 40 or better, but obviously quality 40 hollows perform better than 9mm.
>>65516968>I'm still blinking when I fire and having trouble anticipating the shot a little bit,Are you wearing eye-pro? What do you mean anticipating the shot? Practice reaching the wall (not breaking) of the trigger travel and try not to flinch when you break.
>>65516907>They're called pistolsIsn't the correct term handgun? Pistol has a vague definition, for example a micro draco is consider a pistol.
What's the word on the possible issues with the CZ P-09 Nocturne pistols?
>>65517133>9mm is just as good as 45ACP nowThat's industry copium, every customer wants to use 9mm because it fits in the budget and is NATO standard. 45>40>9 holds in real world with physics.
The two usp .45 mags I backordered from midway on July 7th look like they're about to ship finally.
>>65517119>>65517133>Are .45 ACP combat pistols a meme?yessuppressed .45ACP defensive pistols aren't, thoughnot going deaf is pretty good>>65517150>45 super could take a bear down. 9mm isn't going to do that.both rounds could take a bear down depending on shot placement.45 super is not some wunderkugel, even .460 Rowland is more or less .44 mag on paper>>65517556>45>40>9 holds in real world with physics.not really, 230gr .45ACP still has ~512J of KE at the muzzle, similar to .40SW and 9mm
>>65517594When we look at terminal performance of handgun rounds, we don’t typically look at them and be like DIS ONE GOT THE SAME ENERGY.Bullet diameter (including expanded) combined with penetration is what you want to look at considering the energy differences won’t amount to much functionally.
>>65517628DIS ONE MADE BIGGER HOLE BUT THE YN KEPT WALKING Diagnosis: Improper shot placementSolution: CARRY A DRACO
>>65517594>>655171579lets coping
So, if the USPS loses a gun (an NDA item no less)Do I get the ATF involved?
>>65517473Yes
Going through my FIL's gun safe and found the holy grail. I'm sure it's extremely reliable, safe, and comfortable to shoot.
>>65517699EXTRA MAGAZINE INCLUDED!!???HOLY SMOKES!
>>65517703Yes, truly a "spare no expense" situation. My FIL had a very bad habit of buying any gun that was "cheap."
>>65516269Anyone know anything or own a Hammerli International? I bought a Trailside somewhat recently and wanted to know what the differences were besides the sights and mags/release. I am getting into bullseye shooting because I never really found IPSC or other action type matches to be for me.>>65516557Sauce on the sticker
>>65517681yeah thats one of the only times the ATF is actually helpful, especially if its NFA they'll turn the place upside down.
>>65517681I would say no since it would be the government investigating itself and would more than likely find no wrong doing.
9mm is all you need><1000 fps>hydrostatic shock>reliable hollowpoints>cheap so you can actually practice and get good with your fun.380 has none of these. fuddy s&w and fuddyfive has too much of these. humans are fragile and small caliber low recoil reliably expanding follow up shots matter more than trying to "stopping power" whatever the fuck that means lol. you're going to end up like that guy at the in n out shooting that missed every shot with his meme caliber 5.7. probably too expensive to shoot and never trained. sad!
>>65517722>I bought a Trailside somewhat recently and wanted to know what the differences were besides the sights and mags/releaseDifferences as compared to what?Regardelss, virtually any fixed-barrel .22 is suitable for bullseye
>>65517735we need to get some death row inmates and test ballistics on them or retarded fuddlore will persist throughout the generations. retarded guntuber ballistics gel tests don't count btw
Genuine question, why are like 60% of gun videos some retard ranting in their car?
I dreamt that a group of Nihonjin women standing near the entrance of a mall theatre somehow took possession of my ignition key. I didn't have my EDC pistol to perform a citizen's arrest so dropping to my knees and pleading was the best option. They laughed at my very public humiliation but did handover the key.>>65517486>quality 40 hollows perform better than 9Marginally, probably not enough of a difference to make a difference. Terminal ballistic effectiveness with a pistol is essentially a threshold cleared by any that yields at least .25" expansion and 14 to 16 inches of penetration (FBI protocol).https://youtu.be/DYy1524k90g?t=389>>65517537"Pistol" has been the terminology for firearms that were scaled for use by a single hand since their invention. For whatever reason, there's a misconception that an integral chamber defines a pistol but rotating barrels and cylinders were simply called "revolving pistols.">a micro draco is consider a pistolThat's because of inane and unconstitutional legislation written by politicians illiterate in both technology and history.
>>65517750gun hobbyists are retarded (see: /k/)
>>65517628>energy differences won’t amount to much functionallythe energy a bullet has is what it has available to cause damage to tissue, and its momentum is the amount of motion that it has stored, and sectional density plays a part in how much velocity the bullet will lose per unit distance penetrationwhen the kinetic energy reaches zero, you've traded all of your force production capability because velocity is zerothe statement I was responding to was that ".45 super could take down a bear, 9mm couldn't do that" and my response was that .45 super is basically 10mm with slightly higher momentum, it's not a bear cartridge and doesn't do anything very special. one of the biggest determinants in penetration capability is sectional density because it determines how much energy is converted to force per unit distance in tissue (yes bullet expansion changes sectional density at the cost of energy, selectively, I'm working on a spreadsheet for that), and the "typical handgun calibers" all have comparable sectional densityexcluding specific bullet design characteristics, the bullet's penetration can be approximated as kinetic energy per sectional density. Bullet expansion will change how much energy is converted to force per unit distance, but won't change the bullet's total capacity to impart force, because that's determined by bullet weight and velocity. This is why 9mm through .45ACP have roughly similar performances, why the "mouse calibers" have roughly similar performances, and why the "big game revolver calibers" can't be compared to the auto calibers
>>65516378CZ P-01
>>65517723OkayI won't call it "Lost" yet, just some weird tracking pattern. Went to the sorting facility nearest to me and my FFL (across the road from me lmao) then... magically in a 24 hour time frame, it went to California (this shipped from St. Louis mind you) and now it's in Nashville, TN
>>65517787Thank you FF
I think I am having a midlife crisis because I keep wanting to CC an old west revolver like a Schofield
>>65517787In the heart, I agree with you and look with suspicion on the consensus that has resulted from Fed&fed research on handgun terminal performance where they found out that velocity doesn't really kick in until 2k fps and we are to measure penetration only, and handgun shot in equivalent roughly to being skewered with an appropriate diameter awl. French Alpine goats clearly died faster when shot with higher velocity low mass ammo.None of this helps 9mm, you either want more velocity, and then 357 Sig (and light bullet 40 loads, which don't exist because that was 357 Sig niche even when 40 was cool) does better, or you want more bullet weight, which helps with broaching a hole through flesh, long and wide, and then 45 is unmatched by 9mm.Either comparison leaves the "challenger" a slightly superior and much pricier alternative to the standard, which is 9mm. Works for us, but it's a conclusion devastating to pigs under command of an accountant.
>>65517119Combat pistol is a meme in general, too vague and loaded of a term. People usually use it to refer to double stack .45s where function isn't sacrificed to try to make the gun smaller or lighter to appease handlets or the CC crowd. Those are definitely not a meme. If anything I would say that they are the most reasonable choice for a situation where weight/size aren't a concern unless you are limited budget wise to 9mm or by your handsize. They offer plenty of capacity for any realistic defensive situation, easily managed recoil, and the most per round effectiveness you can get without reverting to magical thinking(thinking velocity matters with typical handgun rounds). If anything fullsize 9mms and compact .40s are the memes unless limited by some arbitrary reason external to the firearms actual use case.
>>65517791>FFThat's not until tomorrow.
>>65517811Same but some old tiny 32 or 25. I want a colt junior
>>65517750I have never seen that once. Pick better channels?
>>65517750If young they live with parents and can't film at homeIf old they live with wife/gf and can't film at home
>>65517824?
>>65517750Stop watching trench grenade
>>65517750Who lmao?
>>65517787>This is why 9mm through .45ACP have roughly similar performanceWhile I applaud your interest in terminal ballistics instead of just regurgitating what you hear on YouTube like so many others you may want to do some more research and balance your projectile characteristics style look at things against more testing or make that clearer in your posts. I'm not trying to be mean or anything but thought this was a good part to point at as an example for that. Despite having 'roughly similar sectional density' there is actually a very wide range in performance characteristics even when discussing non expanding projectiles within this range or calibers(something a lay person would consider fairly similar designs). Understating the importance of projectile design can lead to a lot of confusion or misunderstandings where people try to boil down projectile performance to just sectional density and momentum/velocity/energy/etc when the difference between round nose and flat noses or FMJ and hardcast can result in very different performance in the real world.>>65517815>where they found out that velocity doesn't really kick in until 2k fpsThis is a massive meme that has been disproven. It only sorta applies to smaller diameter rifle rounds and even then not really.
>>65517864Nice ChatGPT sloppa lmao
>>65517836FF = Fox Friday
>>65516269I’m deployed and I’ve saved all my money since I left CONUS.What handgun do I buy when I get back?
>>65517875Have we gotten any new proof?
>>65517815I think 9mm exists in a utilitarian goldilocks zone of high capacity, high shootability, good terminal ballistics, and design reliability, which isn't cool or flashy but efficiency rarely isThe idealized antipersonnel bullet obeys something like a Bragg Peak of energy deposition where it has very high sectional density and retains momentum until it hits appropriate depth where it expands and begins converting its momentum into force, It'll be interesting to see what the dataset I'm working on now shows.>>65517864what I posted was napkin math based on the most common FMJ ball loads (or equivalent per caliber) and I'm working on the luckygunner dataset currently which is real-world ballistics gel data>people try to boil down projectile performance to just sectional density and momentum/velocity/energy/etcat the end of the day, the energy that a round has is the energy that around has, and that is the main determinant of the force that it can exert and consequentially its capacity for work inside the body. design of bullets of equivalent weight and velocity are just going to modify where and how that work is performed, not the quantity of force available.this is all in pursuit of figuring out how to most effectively cheat at MGM spinner targets at 2-gun matches
>>65517787What you said regarding sectional density is largely why .45 is a good cartridge.a .45 can expand to an inch and because of the mass, such a fat bullet can still typically make proper penetration.On the other hand, if a 9mm expanded to an inch, its sectional density would be so shit it would probably not make it to the minimum penetration threshold.Of course, we see 9mm bullets get up to .7-.8 sometimes in it’s best ammo and still consistently make penetration which is pretty crazy, but you have to give credit to the .45 where it’s due.
>>65517879What do you like anon?
>>65517896>What you said regarding sectional density is largely why .45 is a good cartridge.oh I think .45 is a great cartridge against human targets and like it for things that don't factor into the terminal ballistics like being subsonic and performing more work against steel prior to disintegrationI'm just contextualizing some things against the high-energy calibers because there was discussion in this thread and the last one against .40 and .45S against bears and other animals and they don't really perform any differently than 9mm and 10mm, respectively>Of course, we see 9mm bullets get up to .7-.8 sometimes in it’s best ammo and still consistently make penetration which is pretty crazyI'll hold my tongue until I process the rest of the data but looking at anecdotal gel tests, 9mm gets good effectiveness in vivo because the expansion transition completes as it penetrates skin and muscle, and organ tissue has a lower elastic deformation limit and lower bloom value, which matches what I saw when I worked in the OCME
>>65517888You're trying to claim that all the common handgun rounds perform similarly as they have similar napkin math characteristics. This is simply not true. For instance compare the performance of typical FMJ loads to hardcast ones within the same caliber. There is a massive practical difference in performance despite both being non expanding projectiles that may be considered for the same use(namely defense against large animals as mentioned up thread). You should be aware of this. Lucky Gunner is not a good source of practical testing information as they use clear gel. You should also be aware of this.Making claims based off of napkin math while ignoring reality is pure psued behavior. Do more research if you want to be seen as knowledgeable tripfag.
>drone strikes you cutelylmao nice MUH BALLISTIC COEFFICIENT AND VELOCITY ADVANTAGE
>>65517916I like you… haha just kidding.Anyway, I like the way a Glock feels in the hand but I like the way a Beretta 92 looks.
>>65517953Glock rhymes with cock, which I'm sure has a very familiar hand feel for you:^)
>>65517953If you like how a glock feels that's a big plus. You could hold an actual ergonomic pistol and be blown away now
>>65517955Haha you got me there.I think I’m going to fit right in here.People always tell me I fit in very well, you see.
>>65517953Luger
>>65517739To the Hammerli InternationaI mentioned in the previous sentence?
>>65517943we're talking about two different thingsI'm trying to standardize within calibers to make an inter-caliber comparisonyou're talking about intra-caliber variation and cross-comparisons against various different loads and bullet types which I haven't gotten to yet because that's a fuckton of variables>as they use clear gelthis is irrelevant, if it has a standardized bloom, young's modulus, etc, across tests, then the comparison is valid because the gel media is standardized>while ignoring realityokay what is the reality?
>>65517752>that were scaled for use by a single hand since their invention.Nah man it's the word "handgun" that fits that description https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handgun (A handgun is a firearm designed to be usable with only one hand) the word pistol (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistol) is just a sub category of handgun, but I do agree with you on politicians being retarded I just mention the draco part because I assumed that is what the industry sees it as, go to any major selling gun site and sort by pistol you are going to be seeing handguns and rifles together.
>>65517916That guys isn’t me. I like big calibers and I have money to blow.I already have a 6” GP100 which scratched my revolver itch.
>>65517983>I'm trying to standardize within calibers to make an inter-caliber comparisonyou're talking about intra-caliber variationThere's considerable variation when it comes to both.>this is irrelevantIt's entirely relevant as no studies have been performed to indicate that clear gel is comparable or to what degree it is comparable to performance against flesh. It also cannot be compared directly to organic gelatin(which does have at least one such publicly available study[wolberg et al]), furthermore there also aren't any simple formulae that can be used to convert your results due to cleargels varying behavior with regards to projectile velocity and design. People have tried in good faith to get useful information out of clear gel testing and AFAIK nobody has been successful. It's just bad science to use clear gel data.>okay what is the reality?You cannot reliably just look at SD and either momentum, energy, or velocity and make both accurate and broad statements about a given projectiles performance like you are trying to do here. Projectile design matters massively and always needs to be considered as well. Furthermore such theoreticals should always be weighed against the best available "practical testing" available, whether that's from autopsies, necropsies, or gel.Or do you mean what's practically relevant to this particular topic of the performance of common handgun calibers against large/dangerous game?
>>65518026My revolver itch remains unscratched... I'm thinking maybe a 45-70 or .44mag. Possibly .357 if she's pretty enough
>>65518026Sounds like you might want something recockulous like a Magnum Research BFR
is beretta M9A4 worth it ? i need an handgun that has rail, threaded barrel and optic ready in 9x19, any other recs ?
>>65517787>kinetic energy per sectional densityThat doesn't sound right at all.The mass cancels, so your figure of merit scales with v^2/d^2.By that measure, for any given caliber, we should load the lightest possible bullet (pic related) since performance increases _quadratically_ with velocity, and mass is completely irrelevant.
>>65518204forgot to add : no striker handgun
>>65518204M9A4 is peak
>>65518210Dan wesson specialist in 9mm.
I'm making the 92A1 into a big chungusAdded the light now, after the brass grips, and I'm now up to ~45oz with an empty mag
>>65518204>>65518210I'm looking for the same thing so I know just how few options there are. You can also look at the Arex/Steyr, P226 Elite/Legion, and some 2011s. I think the M9A4 is the only one that comes with the threaded barrel thoughbeit.
>>65518253bro ur brigadier slide?
>>65518271It's a 92A1, it has its own slideBrig weight, but no swoop, it's just thicker
>>65517396Why is it a piece of shit? What is an ammo nosedive?
