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>>65551811I would say a full size revolver.
>>65551882I was thinking the same thing. Probably counts as a meme gun though, I don't have one either.
>never point a firearm at anything you are not willing to destroy>unless it's your cock, balls and femoral artery
if it's gonna be a full size, why not just get a more accurate and higher velocity carbine in that same cartridge. full size wheelguns are inferior range toys, and not for carry.
>>65551888Wasted trips
I tire of this bot.
>>65551894Actually, the anime girl is pointing up and to the right so it's the opposite of wasted.
>>65551893It's usually harder to convince people to carry a rifle or shotgun for bear defense.
>>65551888Pendix is a fad and I'm skipping it
Talk me out of CCing .17 HMR
>>65551914Based cock, balls and femoral artery enjoyer.
>>65551907I'm not worried about bears.
>>65551893Good luck concealing something like a SBR P90 or MP5K with everyday street wear during summer>>65551928>TYRESE, GIVE THESE NIGGAS A VOLLEY OF GRAPE SHOT
>>65551937carbines aren't for carry either dum dum
>>65551887I would say that they are fun, even if there is no real reason to carry one. Besides .357 is a comfy caliber, though I don't have one atm (only revolver I have currently is a Single Six, which I can recommend). I got mine (with the Talo exclusive grips) a few months ago for $425 or almost half off what the MSRP is. Worth the money for a new gun at that price.>>65551915As a backup gun, right, anon? Right?
>>65551961Then carry a SR-25 or elephant and cease your kvetching over full sized handguns
>>65551915Like a SA revolver in 17? Don't do it.
>>65551865>BersaYikes!
hearing rumors from somewhat reputable sources that Ron Cohen may be out as Sig CEO.
>>65552058Out as CEOIn as owner of both SIG entities
>>65552058Stoeger posted a bit ago it was fake.
>maybe i want this px4 upgrade>oh no then i should get this other upgrade too>realize i have every part on my list and should just get the entire trigger job insteadsilly me.
>>65551872χαῖρε
>>65552077Stoeger can shove it up his ass
>>65552090χαιρε μου καλον αδελφον!
>>65551991>Cheapshit mixer whiskey
>>65551991>plastic grips and skeleton partsbig yikes
>>65552129jack is alright it reminds me of living in the barracks
>>65552148If you got money for gunz you got money for decent booze
>>65551872Sup stacker ;)
>>65552154All hobbies are expensive, anon. Sometimes we have to compromise on one to indulge in another.
>>65552148This may be more cringe than PB posting trannies with guns every thread
>>65551888yeah
>>65552154nah. shitty guns are wasted money but shitty hooch gets you plastered all the same
>>65551893daily reminder that a 4" N-frame in .44 Mag is basically the same size, weight, and capacity as a 1911 and can cover all of your realistic handgun needs
>>65552195Look, I'm a huge revolverfag but a 1911 is far narrower, has greater capacity, can actually be reloaded easily and the ammo is far cheaper. Unless you're Jerry Miculek, carrying a 4" .44 is a complete LARP
>>65552195dirty harry larping ass nigga
>>65552194Shitty guns get your lead slinging all the same
>>65552163based mercury dime grip anon, he's ready.>>65552176what's the matter anon don't you have a two star challenge coin or better? :P>>65552195the 380acp in OP covers all your realistic handgun needs, and disappears in a pocket
>>65552235Almost thought this was WEG slop. Has that same vibe.
>>65551961Holy shit that image made me laugh hard. There is no hope for me and interacting with normal people anymore is there? There was a point in my life I laughed at Seinfield and def comedy jam. Walther pps m2 goat.
>>65552243bro you have no idea what is happening on the internet right now.>>65552242i dont know what weg slop is, that's an old biz meme about the boog and the old denomination of the obol; a coin of slightly more than half a gram of silver. you could buy bread for a day with it. or other goods and services.
>>65552255There is no other God but Jesus Christ.
>>65551865Hello, apparently the usp9 tactical has a different SKU for its recoil spring assembly than the standard usp9. If one were to suppress a standard usp9, should that person seek out the usp9 tactical recoil assembly?
So, what would be a good holster for a 1911 since we are getting into winter carry weather soon?Lefthanded, somewhere between 9 and 11 o'clock would be my carry position. >>65552148Wild Turkey costs about the same and tastes a lot better.I miss bourbon.>>65552235>pocket .380acp covers all your realistic handgun needsTrue. I usually carry a pocket .380, but 1911s are so much cooler.
Does anyone have a Charter Arms 44 special?I wanna see the size comparison next to something like a model 10 S&W or Glock or something.
>>65552255this creature will be a suburban karen with two kids by age 35
>>65551893I shoot my full size pistols better than my compacts, and I can carry a full size with a crewneck or hoodie which makes it viable for 2/3rds of the year depending on what state I'm in at the time. I cannot carry a carbine while I'm hiking or exploring a new hood spot after midnight looking for some good food after a shift (shout out Side Chicks in Detroit my beloved late night bite). For HD I have my AR or AKs.
>>65552271>There is no other God but Jesus Christ.agreed.>>65552273>I miss bourbon.same. i haven't had anything but red wine for years. and that's tapering off bc i'm done.>1911s are so much cooler.they're aight. i like the hipower barrel link better, but the 1911 trigger is the best i've ever found. can easily put a magazine through the same hole at 7yd.
>>65552129Seethe>>65552140Real italian wood
>>65552281shoot whatever you're good with and actually carry with you anon
>>65552288i got some real italian wood for ya. and yeah noticed the grain later. it's nice anon. skeletonized isn't for me tho
>>65552129JD is overhated. It's got a lot of fun banana notes on it for such a low proof whiskey. Their barrel proof single barrel ryes are incredible, try to find one from warehouse 7 or 9 they usually have a fantastic maple syrup note to em. >>65552290I actually draw my 509c faster than my arex just due to repetition and hundreds if not a thousand draw drills. I'll get there eventually with the arex but I really don't feel the need to carry 18+1 over 15+1 on 360 out of 365 days especially if it comes at the cost of draw speed.
>>65552296>Vagabond enjoyerRead and finish it for the first time last month, favorite manga, you ever finished it? (I'm aware the story is not complete)
>>65551888>treat every gun like it's loaded>dry fire constantly in your living room
>>65552300Yeah man it's in my top 3, up there with breaker new waves and witch hat atelier although I haven't caught up with witch hat and am in need of a new waves reread. I'd reccomend breaker and then the following series breaker new waves if you're looking for something new.
>>65552296Why is your booze in the closet nigga
>>65552330>he doesn't have a booze closet
>>65552342I keep my shi in the cabinet like an adult
>>65551961Phenominal reference in that pic related anon. Truly.
Bros... I quit booze.
>>65552302>>treat every gun like it's loaded>>65551888>>never point a firearm at anything you are not willing to destroyFolks gotta stop being dogmatic about literal NRA propaganda. It had it's place 60 years ago when folks had no concept of firearms safety but it's gone too far and is now holding back firearm training and handling. I miss the days where the Bointing group was popping off on facebook fingering the triggers of their guns pointed at their dicks with a live round in the chamber. First guy to shoot his dick off got made a moderator. Would drive the very people that post comments like "I didn't see you check the chamber before you touched the trigger" on ben stogers videos without a hint of irony nuts.
>>65552330I travel for work, different hospital every 3-6 months. At that particular place I was staying the closet was the only place without a ton of natural light which can degrade whiskey after long periods of time. Same thing with wine, theres a reason folks keep it in the cellar and its not just temperature.
FUCK yeah copper-plated 148 grain 38 special wadcutters finally in-stock.Now I can shoot through a windshield like Dirty Harry, but with a little snubbie.
>>65552364but hwy
>>65552370Based logh enjoyer. It was wrecking my insides and I was probably drinking too much. I feel sick when I see whiskey now.
>>65552364Good job anon, that's something to be proud of. Even if it wasn't a big problem for your behavior it's a big spend especially if you go out to bars and stuff. I probably spend $2k a year collecting whiskey, that's a lot of money that can be spent elsewhere.
>>65552369>copper-plated 148 grain 38 special wadcutters finally in-stockBrand? Source? These CamPro brand ones were too thin plated so some shaved copper even though they passed the "plunk" test after I expanded the case months while reloading. 2.8grs of Titegroup.
>>65552381The ones in this video: https://youtu.be/qo34jH7yf3UThere's only one box of 50 in stock right now because I bought the other four that went up for sale today haha. I've been checking the page daily and today is the first day they've been available, so I imagine they JUST started making them again. I imagine more will be available in the coming days.Got them because the ballistics testing in the above video suggests they're superior to plain lead wadcutters at blowing through barriers like car glass or large amounts of winter clothing.
>>65552376Thanks. Yeah I have GI issues and had to change my lifestyle in the past few years.
>>65552273Milt Sparks Summer Special or Galco Royal guard.
>>65552375Understandable.
>>65552392GunSam. Nice! I like his videos. He confirmed my Shield .45 bias even though I bought mine a few years before I saw his review lol.As for .38 WCs, you should learn to reload. Saves a ton of $ for .38, .357, 10mm and .45.
>>65552412>As for .38 WCs, you should learn to reload.My concern with this is I've never been good/precise at making three-dimensional things with my hands.Drawing class? I rocked that shit - won multiple awards in high school.3D art class? Nope. Fucking terrible at it. Can't make 3D shit with my hands worth shit.I figure I'd be a danger to myself if I reloaded.
>>65552416If you can prepare a mixed drink then you can reload. It's arguably easier since there's only one ingredient (gunpowder)
>>65552422So what you're telling me is it's difficult to fuck it up as long as you do adequate research, and fine hand-eye coordination is not necessary.I'll look into it if I reach a point where I'm shooting often enough to justify the initial equipment investment.I appreciate the input.
>>65552364based unIRONically
>>65552195this isn't true and a double stack 2011 is almost the same width as a 2011, so I could get 15+1 of 10mm in the same footprint as a 4 inch .44 mag revolver.
Will OP commit sudoku for his faggotry?
>>65552458>this isn't trueOAL, height, and weight are almost identical, and it's 6 rounds of .44 Mag vs 7+1 of .45 ACP—if you really wanted to press the issue, they make 8×.357 N-frames that are even closer>a double stack 2011 is almost the same width as a 2011Yeah, I bet it is.
>>65552273I'm looking forward to it getting colder in another month and change, ready to change it up from rum and cachaça and start having some bourbon
>>65552283>they're aight.I just think they are really cool.>can easily put a magazine through the same hole at 7yd.I wish I was that good of a shooter.>>65552364Same.>>65552397Thanks.
>>65552470>Yeah, I bet it is.1911 vs 2011
>>65551991>Jack Daniel’s >condemns cheap stuff Anon I….
My G34.5 is shitting the bed. Slide lock on practically every round. Changed mags, lubed heavily, even swapped the stock release for a damn >>65552470KKKAGWERXXX. I’m still fucked. Somebody who knows what they’re doing help me
Not that anyone asked but these are my 22s. I was the CZ75 anon from a couple of threads back. Going to see my FFL over the weekend. I thought I was going to see him Tuesday, but I learned that I was going to be in a different area.Not to be a consoomer, but what else do I need? A Glock 43 or 43x is on my list of things to get, but I know folks here find it awkward. How bad is it for someone like me who has small hands versus a Max-9, Hellcat, et al? I don't need a carry gun at the moment, but home defense is needed since the neighbor's kids ran into the law, so this is why the CZ is number 1.
>>65552470>>65552480>629 6 shot width: 1.7 inches>1911 width: 1.25 inches >2011 width: 1.25-1.3 inches 10mm 2011 15+1https://www.gunbroker.com/item/12078536411099 with free shipping
>>65552272Yes. Prepare to pay HKparts prices.
>>65552505I can't help you but I like your single six
Midweek guns and booze? I'm in.
I'm diving into holster hell. My dumb ass got a holster that's more suited for AIWB and I realized I don't want to carry in that position
>>65552272yesstock recoil assembly cannot handle the increased backpressure/slide velocity and you will damage the frame
>>65552505Well, I love CZ and I carry a G43 for the summer. Both are great options and pretty proven designs.
>>65552290>own a ton of handguns >dryfire and go to the range regularly >still shoot my stock Glock 19 that lives in my underwear drawer better than any other gun Mein hertz ist Osterreichen
>>65552534Kek same. I swear I shoot my shitiest cheapest gun best.
>>65552534i refuse to believe you shoot a plastic striker fired better than a 1911
>>6555247011+1 @ 44.4 ounces.Frame with being ~1.25 inches ignoring the safety lever protruding. I can shoot this sub .2 splits
>>65552562sexy
>>65552516Thanks, I mentioned it above >>65551963. I have shot close to 500 rounds through it, the 1911-22 has about 1000 rounds through it and both are fantastic, especially if you can get a good deal (I got about half price on the 1911-22 too and got a spare mag with it). Picrel also has my father's which he bought maybe 2 weeks ago, he hasn't shot it yet. A word of note is that for those unfamiliar, these are miniaturized to be about 85% the size of a "real" 1911, apart from that, it is the same. If you want to spend money on a plinker that isn't a P17 or TX22, then this is probably what you should get. I nearly got a P17 though.Decided to check out a gun shop yesterday too. It was supposed to have good deals on CZs (they didn't, everything was overpriced, but I digress).>>65552526Welp, sounds like that is what I might get.
>>65552519growing up is realizing that theres actually no other viable position other than appendix
>>65552565That was a vertical picture when I took it and sent it to my laptop. Just tilt your heads 90 degrees. Photography is not my strong suit.
>>65552569I want to carry 4 o clock :(
>>65552569based
>>65552565How reliable are 22 1911s? Seems like it would be a jam o matic
>>65552565I recommend the P01 as well if you like the CZ75.
>>65552283>agreed>same. i haven't had anything but red wine for years. and that's tapering off bc i'm done.Based. I’ll pray for you tonight anon. We all recognize (hopefully) there is a gap from the men that we are and the men that we should be. Keep moving forward. Keep stumbling towards Christ every single day. Keep getting back up and confessing, asking for His forgiveness.>pov>God’s love for you because of Jesus Christhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WihXRFxOnZc&pp=ygUSWnVrbyBpcm9oIGZvcmdpdmVz
Is muddy river tactical good for holsters?
>>65552586Only two jams early on during my first outing, which I blame on myself, I think I skimped out of the oil after cleaning the factory oil off. Ever since it has been reliable, with only a couple of misfires (which I believe were ammo related).
>>65552569Growing up is realizing that different people have different circumstances and different priorities that often require different solutions to similar problems
>>65552148Based coin enjoyer >>65552163Classy>>65552279David Berkowitz?
>>65552606Surprising. Now I want one.
>>65552604Holsters are pretty much all the same, regardless of brand. Some are made of better materials, some are a slightly better or worse fit for your gun/body/draw method, some last longer than others, but they all do the job adequately.
>>65552596https://x.com/PubWanghaf/status/2012246288268763353?s=20
>>65552624this, i just save money buying mine no brand from amazon
>>65552590Noted.Reminds me, another guy who wants to get into shooting but is a nogunz (helicopter parents, but they are not anti-gun at all) showed me a gun that he said I should get because it looked cool. It was a Bond Arms derringer of some sort (I forget which one, but the frames are all the same IIRC). No clue on what their products are like, so you folks can advise me since I here 50/50 good and bad. I might get one just for shits and giggles since I agreed to teach him how to shoot, but I am not committed on it. At least he chose the right brand for derringers, if the only alternatives these days are Cobra/Bearman ring of fire hand grenades. Some other ones on my want list is a Tokarev (but the FEG 9x19 one) and the Bauer automatic. Before someone says I'm a hipster faggot for the Tokarev, my mother's side is from the former USSR and my great uncle was a police officer and he carried a Tokarev, I just want one that isn't automatically Slavshit, also I can show it to my Hungarian friend who loves FEG. This isn't all at once and I will pace myself with purchases, naturally, plus I have an order to getting stuff as far as needs vs wants.>>65552615I was skeptical too, but it felt good in the hand so I figured I would try it. They also make .380 if you are so inclined. The best looking grips are the America 250 ones (should cost the same as mine). The Maple grip one has a polymer frame, but it still has a good amount of heft. As far as other models that I remember, there is a government model one one, some Cerakote options (none of them look that good desu), and a silencer ready, if you want a silencer (my father almost bought that version instead of the Maple). If I remember tomorrow, I will post some groups I have gotten from 7 yards with mine. That said I shot up the paper until I had some gaping holes, but you get things nice and tidy.
>>65552480>>65552509Gottem>>65552518Hows the book anon?>>65552519I find 4 o clock strong side to work better for me. My draws were faster that way at the start and I never looked back, and as a bonus for me it's much more comfortable when I carry which means I carry more. My splits are perfectly fine for hitting a grapefruit sized group at 7 yards, so I see no reason to do appendix.That being said a couple of the guys I shoot with much prefer appendix. I don't think there is a best way, only a best way for you.
>>65552499You tried with dummy rounds? Is your mag sitting right?
>>65552679I'll try both appendix and 4 o clock out. Might as well since I have this appendix holster.
>>65552505Have you looked at the PDP-F? It is meant for woman sized hands, another would be a shield.
>>65552679It was good, if you like lovecraft this book is decades before him. I like the way it was structured into different vignettes of people experiencing the play and their madness setting in differently, and also the few lines the author would add proportion to be directly from the play.It was well done, especially for 1895, and it makes sense it was so influential later.
For me, it's pocket carry, because my IQ is 160, it's ultra comfy so it never discourages me from carrying, and it doesn't necessitate me pointing a loaded weapon at my cock, balls and femoral artery like a fucking idiot.
>>65552689>>65552505PDP-F is pretty good. You could also get the pro version. t. small handed deeply closest gay man
>>65552698>new job bans all gunsexpected, sure>new job has me lifting heavy boxes, hauling pallets, reaching and squatting and kneeling downoof, how am i supposed to carry in these conditions in case of a psychopath or targeted attack>my pants pocket starts glowing
>>65552651If I was going to get a 380 1911 I'd get a compact one so its more than a range toy. But 22 for plinking does sound fun.
>>65552706The primary trick is absolutely the right pockets. They need to be roomy, so they're easy to stick your hand into quickly, and they need to be deep enough so the grip isn't visible from behind you.With the right pockets and enough practice, draw speed shouldn't be significantly slower than any other method. In fact, in the situations where your spidey sense goes off ahead of time and you're able to stick your hand in your pocket and grip your firearm before you need to draw it, draw speed will be much faster than any other method.So, really, the main drawback is it necessitates wearing specific clothing. This could be pants with roomy, deep pockets. But, this could also be a vest or jacket with interior pockets that you wear unzipped.
>>65552705>deeply closestHow close are you, anon?
>>65552723fuck me
>>65552689>>65552705I haven't, only because I don't think about Walther too much apart from the PPK, which is what my father shoots most of the time and is the largest caliber he has (he is soon to be 81, and sometimes needs a cane to help him walk, so it is not too retarded as a carry choice). Definitely something to consider, though.>>65552709Let the folks here know if/when you get one and when you shoot it. I can probably help with a couple of things, since the magazines may be a little bit sticky at first. You will see what I mean.
>>65552705>>65552723>How close are you, anon?Anon, please be sensitive about this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CYE6H3uDFo
>>65552738The PDPs are solid and the F series was made specifically for women and ppl with smaller hands.
October challenge is live! Shoot all the zombies or YOU DIE.>full colorhttps://files.catbox.moe/kn1njm.pdf>grayscalehttps://files.catbox.moe/wb9c2e.pdf>light modehttps://files.catbox.moe/bk0ocq.pdf
I went to the gun store today and found out Pietta makes(made?) an 1873 SAA that's chambered for .44 black powder (non-cartridge).
>>65552148I don't have any problems with it I just usually go cheaper these days.
>>65552364I didn't quit but I only drink ever other month.
>>65552778>Baofeng>Tula x39>USP>BurbonBased
>>65552778My nigga
Niggers tongue my anus
>>65552693I should get a .45 suppressor.
>>65552778I'm missing part 21 after I loss it and it still runs.
>>65552793>TulaIt's an old picture but I think technically I still have some loaded in mags. >>65552795Respeck.>>65552806I'm not sure what that does. I took it apart once to do the trigger but that was a long time ago.
>>65552713>spidey sense goes off ahead of time and you're able to stick your hand in your pocketI just keep my hands in my pocket all times, sure if I trip while I walking I'm fucked but with if a 1 in a million chance there could be a chimpanzee armed with a UZI around the corner?
>>65552810>I'm not sure what that does. I took it apart once to do the trigger but that was a long time ago.USP are built to last besides the missing part I also had a the top bit of #26 break on me.
>>65552792That's a good compromise
>>65551888I only have it pointed at my femoral artery during the commute.
>>65551865are you going to install a loudener? And a muzzle flash booster/increaser?I'm not sure about thembut...super effective, and you get more bang for your buckfrightens the birds away
>>65551928man you can see the realisation that he isn't going to make it to the cop in time on his facealso what is up with the 18th centaury classical composer dyed yellow hair he has on?and then the ghetto operator outfit, such a clash, makes this image all the more iconic
>>65552832niggas.
>>65552365>Folks gotta stop being dogmatic about literal NRA propaganda.>NRA propaganda>propaganda
>>65551865
Name one reason without sounding like a woman why I shouldn't carry a ppk?
>>65552846u gay lolz
>>65551865What’s the most /k/omfy /k/aliber? I think .380’s pretty neat, personally.
>>65552850.380 is comfy. I'd have to agree with you.
>>65552846Carry a $20 bill to placate assailants while you're at it.
>>65552854I've never heard any explanation of "proportionate force" that doesn't sound like the person suggesting it doesn't expect you to engage in an honorable duel with fists or blades against the thugs who value the contents of your pockets more than their lives.
>>65552850It’s .380
>>65552854A knife is lethal force, retard. Having it in your "force paradigm" is retarded since legally stabbing someone is the same as shooting them and a gun is a better weapon. Pepperspray would be a more appropriate fit for "proportional force". You carry a knife as a tool, not a weapon.
>>65552854for me it's
>>65552834You’re responding to the retarded cerakote FN509 libtard who works in healthcare. He was the primary twink orbiter, and is perhaps the worst poster in these threads (and that includes p*stebin).
>>65552907I didn't consent to being posted on a Filipino shadow puppet forum.
>>65552846I don't particularly like them but if you do then it's very easy to conceal.
>>65552693That sounds like an awesome read, I'll check it out. Ran a brief call of cthulu campaign years ago, would be fun to get back into that stuff. Hows the HK rifle?>>65552688Try out both, but it may just be your holster. What kind of holster are you using?
>>65551865Usually a S&W csx, also can anyone identify this spring? I was cleaning some guns and then found it a short bit ago. I would guess it’s a mag release spring, feels pretty stiff for its size but haven’t found any guns not working. Was cleaning my hellion then m70 and m85 but none of them seem to have any issues either. Thanks >may have nothing to do with muh guns lol
>>65552885>the person suggesting itUsually a prosecutor trying to convince a jury that there's such a thing as too much self defense.>thugs who value the contents of your pockets more than their livesAnd yours! On a related note, USCCA has never heard of the presumption of innocence, the shadow of doubt, the exemption of wives from testifying against their husbands and believes their own subscribers have enough net worth to be sued but somehow not able to afford lawyers of their own.>>65552910The entire image is satire inspired by the story of PP (anon who carries a PPK) handing his accoster a $20 bill to leave him like an absolute pushover, you dipshit FNG.>>65552912I'm going to reclaim the shooting drill that you took from me, stay tuned.>>65552911As it should, anon! No one has ever been convicted of "excessive self defense".
>>65552967>No one has ever been convicted of "excessive self defense".Harold Fish
>>65552985>Harold FishChanged his account of events multiple times. Inconsistencies or contradictions are interpreted by juries as lies and therefore guilt. This is one of the reasons why you should never speak to investigators, always exercise your right to remain silent and keep your story straight!
>>65552850.32 is pretty comfy. More capacity, less recoil.
>>65552885There are situations where you are legally justified in using force to defend yourself/others/property but not justified in using lethal force. Lethal force is only justifiable if you have an imminent actual fear of death or great bodily harm for yourself or others. A gun is lethal force. Example: defending property. You cannot use lethal force to defend mere property, but you CAN use REASONABLE force. You absolutely can punch/tackle/pepper spray someone trying to steal from you. You cannot shoot them in the back. Not even in Texas even though I know some faggot ITT will cite that statute that was ruled unconstitutional.
>We're excited to inform you that>it's still not shipping for another half year at least>yeah we were """behind our timeline""" last time and the time before that and the time before that and the time before that but for real this time swearsies
>>65553016Absolutely, if you're a grown-ass man and somebody bumps into you in an aggressive fashion, you're not going to have a good time in court if you dump a mag in them, BUT the civilian use of force continuum still basically goes straight from harsh language and shoving/OC spray to busting a cap in someone's ass—there's no reasonable expectation to pull out melee weapons like knives or nightsticks in-between
>>65553022>google-funded jewish gungrabbing technology is vaporware Wow it's almost like we fucking told you this two years ago, retard.
>>65552368I like your style bucko
>>65552473I couldn't find a cachaça I enjoyed, recs?
>>65553105NTA but Novo Fogo is supposed to be good
>>65553105I like Germana.
>>65551865I've been here for seven years and I still forget what this day is
>>65553128The day 4Chan went live, it’s been 23 years now
>>65553129oh god im 25
>>65553016You are just making things up. That statute was never ruled unconstitutional.
Guy with coins in his grips How did you get your coins into your grips? Thank you
>>65553150coin->gripsgr[coin]ipshope that helps
>>65552846I replaced mine with a G43 but I summer carried a PPK for about 13 years. Its comfy, I just wanted night sights/WML/9mm. In truth, 6+1 of quality 380 will do the job, and the metal frame is nice.
>>65552936I got a cipher from henry holsters
>>65553147Oh, here's the faggot I was talking about! You cannot use lethal force to effectuate an arrest (which is what you would be doing by shooting some over property) unless there is an immediate clear and present danger to the general public. Tennessee v. Garner. "Fleeing felon" laws are unconstitutional.
I think I want to start EDCing a revolver. Any recommendations? I am a fan of how the Chiappa Rhino looks but I heard that since it fires from the bottom cylinder, it's easier to accidentally turn your fingers into sausage.
>>65553281Thats a ruling about police use of force not civilian. Show me a single civilian legal case where that was used
>>65553294Personally I think the best conceal carry revolver on the market is the SP101 Match Champion in .357 Magnum. It conceals like a j-frame frame but shoots like a much bigger revolver. The downside is 5 rounds but I can imagine you'll ever be in a situation where you'll need that 6 boolet
>>65553294the part that sucks the most about CCing revolvers is the cylinder width and how the cylinder sits right at your waistline, so 5-shot guns are going to be the least wretched to carry. aiwb selection is also very limited for non-snubs and leather holsters simply suck ass for draw speed.
>>65553263After looking at them they all seem to come with a wing which is good for 4oclock strong side carry. Do you have a carry belt? That could also help with your comfort carrying. I like my Hanks gunner belt.
>>65553334> leather holsters simply suck ass for draw speed.?I’m using a leather holster
Anyone else an openly obnoxiously flamboyant homosexual to the point where you’re almost a caricature?
>>65553379The .380 bros are all here I see
>>65553390>>65553379No, I don't carry or use .32.
>>65553379Not I, for I don’t use 9mm.
just got them todaymy first handgunscz shadow 2 compactruger mark iv 22/45
>>65553440>CZI wish someone could have saved you from such a decision
>>65553442i tried different types at the rangeit was the only one i really liked the feel of
>>65553440>Shadow 2 CompactFull size or Carry are the only acceptable my models The compact really has no niche
>>65553445full size felt too big and heavycarry had noticeably worse trigger and non adjustable sightsi thought about this for a while. compact was the sweet spot for me
>>65553450>Worse triggerIt has a firing pin block which does add to the double action pull, which you hardly get to experience anyway, and the single action is on par to the Compact version.For the explicit purpose of CC, the Compact version isn't the best option considering how the firing pin is free to rock forth and oops, there goes your dingus!
>>65553457its safe enough
>>65553457the carry also has the decocker which makes the trigger worse
>>65553457>he Compact version isn't the best option considering how the firing pin is free to rock forth and oops, there goes your dingus!and also this isn't how guns workthing called the firing pin spring? if left stock it will be fine but I know you cz cocksuckers change it out to a reduced power one because cz triggers suck
>>65553466So is the P320!>>65553470A good feature for a small priceException being Beretta, who give you a great trigger, decocker, and manual or even optional (decocker only) safety IN THE SAME GUN!>>65553473>If left stockHUGE "IF", ESPECIALLY FOR A /HG/ POSTER
>>65552850I haven't shot a .25 I didn't like.>>65553440I think you did well. Most guns that you can buy from a reputable firm will be good, so really it is a case of personal preference. Just avoid Turkshit and anything especially cheap, if you can. Also EAA's CS is not good, so avoid Tanfoglio despite them being good.
>>65552885basically dont shoot someone if you're losing a fistfight
>>65553440Pretty sensible choices>>65553480It's been a good few years since tanfoglio dropped EAA as it's importer, now EAA is pretty much just doing girsan turk 2011s
>>65553016>You cannot use lethal force to defend mere property,In Texas you can, like the only good thing about that state. Florida too? Same opinion as above.
>>65553519>Florida too?In florida you are considered the aggressor and will be charged as if you initiated the altercation if you go outside your home to stop someone from stealing the car in your driveway. You also can have a man banging on your window with a knife screaming he will kill you and your family and you cannot do ANYTHING about it until he brakes the window pane.This is what happens when you do not vote in primaries. This is why you cannot just check a box next to the republican in general elections. Florida has been under complete and total republican control for like a decade but republican does not mean 2A friendly. Vote for people that support 2A, and sometimes that means you vote D instead of R.Fuck my state and it's gay retard laws. I can't even win a gun in a lottery outside of florida.>>65553405Nice guns anon, how have you been feeding your aks? >>65553440Pretty pricy way to start but hell yeah anon, congrats. Both are great guns that will serve you well, now you just gotta get out there and shoot em a bunch.
>>65553547It eats a steady diet of Belom. I bought it to torture test, I also put one of those chestnut mountain OKP7 clones on it. I'll take a pic when I get home.
>>65553561>chestnut mountain OKP7 clonesOh shit fr? How is it? Hows the torture test going? I only got about 4k rounds through my most used AK before the ammo import ban and now it's barely crossed 5k. Just so hard to dip into the reserve knowing I got it for 20cpr and it's now 50cpr.
Are there any ammo brands I should avoid or just get the cheapest stuff I can find for range use?
>>65553547>Vote for people that support 2A, and sometimes that means you vote D instead of R.Lol
>>65553547So you're trying to claim that Grady Judd telling homeowners to shoot thieves and burglars was telling people to break the law?
>>65553572I bought 2k rounds a few months ago, Ive put a few hundred through it but I've been waiting to go to the lake house and just put mag after mag through it shooting at something against the berm. My point in buying this was to see/prove if the PSA gen5 premiums are worthwhile AKs, a few hundred rounds isn't enough to tell obviously.I just got the OKP7 and mounted it, haven't shot it yet. Seems quality so far, I got the green T reticle.
Handguns
>>65553597According to the instructor who taught my conceal carry course in Florida and went over the statues, yes.>>65553591We will never achieve the gun rights we want so long as you keep voting for people that do not support them but wear a red tie.>>65553604>shooting at something against the berm.Try potatoes out man, they bust apart pretty good and a sack of em is cheap. Watermelons obviously are a lot of fun but they cost a lot more. Hope the PSA holds up well, my buddy had both a akm and rpk PSA parts kit builds that were trash, but I've heard their actual home built rifles are leagues better than when I was a regular in that general back in 2020.
>>65553628>According to the instructor who taught my conceal carry course in Florida and went over the statues, yesNot that an anecdote covers every time, but in IL my CCL instructor was super doom and gloom about self defense laws and tried his absolute hardest to make defending yourself illegal as well. Not that IL has amazing self defense laws but they're not bad, there's no duty to retreat, etc. I think the instructors just really don't want to be cited as the reason one of their students shoots someone.
>>65553634>to make defending yourself *sound* illegal as well.Fixed
>>65551872Do you think silver will drop below $50 again? If so I may end up selling all my firearms bar like 2 to stock up.
>>65552111What Hellenic topic books you got, fren? Also nice digits.
>>65553628>According to the instruction to taught>the instructorThose guys who are against constitutional carry? Interesting.
>>65553628Apparently they used to not have forged trunions and that caused a lot of problems. These ones seem good to go so far, again I can't comment until I have a few thousand rounds through it.>>65553607Yes, my apologies
>>65553547>Vote for people that support 2A, and sometimes that means you vote D instead of R.>florida"Ban the sale of assault weapons. These are weapons of war, not hunting or home defense. No civilian needs them. Every day they remain on store shelves is a day Florida chooses gun lobby talking points over the safety of its people." David Jolly dem governor candidate for florida"Americans are inundated with gun violence, tragedy after tragedy." Angie Nixon dem senate candidate for florida"The majority of Americans, including the majority of gun owners, support universal background checks and keeping assault weapons off our streets. This isn't a partisan issue outside of Washington—it's a public health crisis." Maxwell Alejandro Frost sitting dem house member from florida
i bought 10000 bulletstoo much?
>>65553457>>65553466>>65553477Stock Shadow 2 Compact dropped muzzle down from shoulder height. Literally the worst case scenario and the primer was slightly licked, nowhere near close to going off. Safe enough for me imo
>>65553688It should not happen to begin with lmao
>>65553688even if it goes off, if it hits muzzle down, the bullet will go into the ground?
>>65553685Never too much!
>tfw VA has no codified self-defense laws and everything is decided on a case-by-case basis using case law as precedent Stand-your-ground, duty-to-retreat, and castle doctrine are all de facto depending on the circumstances
>>65553697aren't your dems working hard to thoroughly cuck your gun laws and I assume self defense laws too?
>>65553697>Politely ask them to leave>They act irrational and attack >???>"Tracked ya easy"
>>65553668"I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun." ~Donald TrumpDavid Jolly was literally a Republican who ran as a Republican and passed anti 2A legislation as a Republican before he switched parties. This is the last I'll post about it because I don't want to derail the thread, but if you're not bothering to google your canidates stances on 2A before you vote in the primaries we will always have anti 2A laws in Florida.>>65553657My instructor said he was for it but worried it would lead to a lot of folks who think they know the law engaging in what they believe is self defense and getting thrown in jail for it. That's part of why he put so much emphasis on learning the self defense laws in our class and urged us to pass it on since the change was just a few months away when I got my permit>>65553688Looks safe enough to me, plenty of folks carry 1911s and the vast majority are not drop safe when dropped muzzle down.
>>65552279Check out handgunhero.
>>65553736Never mind, they don't have a Charter Arms section.
>>65553706mostly gun lawsthey own most commonwealth's attorney's offices in places with more than three people living there, so you get fools like Descano who just refuse to prosecute any violent crime at all, then will jam you up for something very mild like calling someone a bad word if they pull a gun on you at a gas station>>65553697in general, the law of the jungle is the five essential elements of self defense, which are imminence, innocence, proportionality, reasonableness, and avoidance>>65553719>worried it would lead to a lot of folks who think they know the law engaging in what they believe is self defense and getting thrown in jail for itI don't understand why you think this could ever be avoided unless you're mentally retardedwe share the roads with people who still genuinely don't know that the left lane is for passing only despite that being the case for their entire lives
>>65552854>placate assailantsThat's not how that works Mr. Chamberlain.
>>65553719You’ve already derailed it faggot >let me post a quote from a guy who is generally responsible for most of the previous gun rights wins plus who just pardoned that guy who got shafted over a paperweight (Patrick Adamiak) if you don’t know who this is then shut the fuck up There is no other acceptable political theory than complete and undying loyalty to Donald Trump unironically. You can dislike what he does and that is okay, but there is no other team in town. Never vote for a Democrat. Never “sit this one out”. Vote for whoever is getting the ball down the field, or at the very least isn’t in the party hellbent on destroying this country. I do not defend RINOs, I do not defend the Texas GOP that worships Indians. Also stop believing what “journalists” tell you. Constant demoralization ops. The other day there was a complete and total lie that ICE was pausing arrests of “non criminals” when it reality they aren’t slowing down at all, they’re speeding up. Listen to John Doyle.
>>65552846Carry what you can shoot well, fast, and are willing to carry and use every time you leave the house. If that's .22, .380, 9mm or .45ACP, so be it, as it's better than not carrying at all. People tend to NOT want to get shot...by anything.
>pissed so hard I got back splash from the urinal and it got on my gun at the movies last week>check the internals today>rustShit
>>65553667>only one perfect gun
>>65551872You selling off to re-up in the dip?
>>65553804sounds like you should go back to the cinema and piss on every surface in their bathroom
>>65552534So you don't have a soul, what's the big deal
>>65553804pee is a deruster so if anything it helped remove the rust you already had
>>65553668>party that supports taking guns from people is the same party that encourages their minority constituents and illegal aliens to riot and use violence en masseFunny how that works.
>>65553628You arent fooling anyone, commie
>>65553497Sounds like Tanfoglio is back on the menu. What about Rohrbaugh? Anyway, out of all those Girsan is the worst of the three, but the most serviceable of Turkshit (still avoid it).As a rule, if it comes from Cocoa, FL (made or imported), it is a range toy at best, or an accident waiting to happen at worst. I wouldn't want to carry a Kel-Tec unless I was a poorfag, but they are fun range toys. I would not touch a Diamondback or EAA Girsan ever.
I would like a real flintlock
>>65553854In the world of handguns, yesIn the world of rifles, Kel-Tec makes some that rival the best weapons institute in the world. The RDB and RFB mog the Tavor
>>65553855you dont "need" a flintlock anon
>>65553862This man is correctAll a man needs for a weapon is a rock and maybe a rock on a stick
>>65553855https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1201083270Here you go
>>65553855I want something that looks like a flintlock but is just a 410/45 single action pistol.
>>65553866If you can't kill with an Atlatl, it's a skill issue
>>65553871Saw off a springfield trapdoor
>>65553805Which one?
>>65551865Are there other Argentinian guns out there?I'm visiting Argentina soon
>>65553871How about a T/C Contender .45/.410?
>>65553871Sexy cat
>>65553899Hi power
>>65553857Honestly as far as handguns go the P17 isn't half bad as a shooter, but it is a .22lr and not small enough to be a backup gun, so it doesn't make sense as anything other than a range toy. I have shot a couple that the last girl I dated had.>>65553866What about a stick with a lock and chain on it?
are pistols just expensive fidget toys?
>>65552827Genuinely, why? Just keep it in your glove box like a normal person.
>>65553946Thats what all guns areLarpity larping larpy larp instruments
>>65553946everything is a fidget toy if you're determined enough now hand over your pancreas
>>65553946>fidget just wrong and dieI mean yeah I guess.
>>65553645No. I have a feeling it could drop to 50 at the lowest and stay there for a short while, but the $20-30 days are gone. desu I should do the same with my firearms, I don't need all these and they'd get me an ounce of Au at least.>>65553815No. I have enough. If gold dipped to 3k I'll get some, but I'm good on Ag.>>65553650The gamut. Mostly ancient metaphysics/greek phil/mysticism -> early Christianity & ascetics -> Byzantine theologians -> phenomenology/philosophy of language/political philosophy
>>65553908>I'm visiting Argentina soonWhere do you plan on going? I went last year and can reccomend some spots. As for Argentinan guns Bersa is their big domestic manufacturer. I've seen some praise for their 1911 and TPR9 but haven't shot either.
>>65553016>You cannot shoot them in the back. Not even in TexasIn Texas, if someone steals from your property at night, and if you have a reasonable belief that you cannot retrieve your property in any other way without putting your own life at risk, you may shoot the person fleeing with what they stole from you.This only applies at night.
>>65553294Pocket carry a 38 Special Ruger LCR with 148 grain wadcutters.
>>65553946Not all of them. Zippo lighter is a fidget toy. Bic lighter is a smoker's default, but Zippo works as well and you can post pretty pictures of it. Same applies to guns. This thread is mostly fidget toys, but there's some trace amount of shooting discussion.
>>65553994Bic is a fidget toy>ooo sparks
>>65553855Probably the best flintlock video on the internet.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I-A-Y3iRBxs&pp=ygUQRmxpbnRsb2NrIHBpc3RvbA%3D%3D&ra=m
>>65553997Nice reading comprehension
>>65553970Good Airs and Bariloche, I want to hike around the Andes
>>65554015I like this one more https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XdtQmwxyXM
>>65553946What's wrong with toys?
>>65554029Toys are for children
>>65554019Everything is a toy>>65554038Never abandon your inner child
>>65554040Pedo
>>65554041Do women over 30 have developed prefrontal cortex or not? Or are they always children?>She was only 48 you sick fuck!
>>65553962I have about $7k in firearms I could liquidate to get more silver. I may end up doing listning a bunch of stuff on GB this weekend.>>65553962>BooksNice
>>65553111Seconding Novo Fogo. I think I liked the Kolibri the best so far.
>>65554029When they look like that, nothing at all
>>65553970>>65554024Argentina is where we were supposed to go for our honeymoon but the coof happened and they shut down hard. I still plan on going to Mendoza, its my favorite wine region.
>>65553911Almost but I want the look of a flintlock with the cudgel grip.
>>65554057Well go now while you can before shit hits the fan
>>65554058You can literally put almost any grip on a Contender. There was once a whole cottage industry of custom grip makers for it.
>>65554024Perfect, I went to Bariloche and can reccomend some spots. The loop that takes you around Laguna Toncek and Refugio Petricek was the highlight of the hikes we did. During the time we went the waterfalls were frozen allowing for crossing but the snow wasn't deep enough to close the paths, I'd play it by ear and see what conditions allow when you're there but we had a great time. Foresta bakery was this little shop near our airbnb that was fantastic and I'd highly reccomend, great sourdough and cinnamon rolls. I'd reccomend getting a place in bariloche with a grill, the food there was horrifically expensive so we bbqed every night with meat we bought at the grocery store. The local cut is the the beef rib asado, cook it for about 30-45 min on the bone side then flip it to finish for only 5 or so minutes.
>>65554066Ah seems neat but then I'd have to what buy a black powder gun and bubba the wood stock to fit this modular thing? I am not a woodsmith anon
>>65554072Screencapping this, thank you.
>>65554076Not a woodsmith YET!
>>65554076OR buy a grip that's already close and sand the fuck out of itThat or just commission one from a woodworker
>>65554095I'm not paying a man to polish my wood, I'm going to do it myself.
I'll post more when work calms down, so check back in on this thread
>>65554103>>65554081Whoops meant to reply this to this post. Are yall spending any time in Buenos Aires?
>>65554050Women? I don't talk to women.
>>65553962Books you recommend to read?
>>65554140Infinite Jest
Looks like the Connecticut glock ban got stopped until the glock v state of ct case endsWhat a shithole state
>>65554148I know it is a meme, but it is a legitimately excellent piece of fiction and 100% worth a read
Saw this glock slide parts kit was in stock this morning so I placed an order even though I usually take my time first and add other things. It's oos now so I guess that was the right call.
>>65552953Hell yeah.
>>65554150Damn that sucksI love my Glocks, and thankfully my state wont go full retard on guns (Just internet censorship and flock for now)
>>65554186>Damn that sucksThis is a good thing because the state is going to lose the case and the ban will get discarded I assume
>>65554072>picWTF the guns really do kill people!
>>65554212>I'm from Buenos Aires and I say kill em all!
>>65554081>>65554072Playa bonita is a fun little beach there, very rocky but very pretty with great views of the patagonias. We usually took our breakfast and ate there. Last year there was laws against ride share apps, but you could still use them and they were VERY cheap they would just have you jump out at weird places if there was cops by your inital drop off point. My buddy is from Argentina and he was talking to them, apparently the cops impound their cars if they get caught so just play along. That may have changed since I went about a year and a half ago now, and the public buses do run but are very unreliable. Bariloche has a huge german population (wonder why they went there. How strange) so if you do want to eat out the german resturants may be a safe bet. We found most Argentinan food to be bland and tasteless. If you spend time in Buenos Aires be careful and try not to speak too much english while walking around to avoid getting mugged like my buddy did. it's the most dangerous city I've been in and I lived in Detroit for awhile. Recoleta CemeteryCementerio de la Recoleta is a giant city of mausoleums built 100 years agovby a famous architect to celebrate every famous and rich argentinian. Well worth a visit. La Estancia Asador Criollo was a great asado joint nearby, but if you want a truly local expirence and speak spanish get the asado at Parrilla Lo de Fran.I hope you enjoy your trip.>>65554154This reminds me I have to start being on the lookout for arex zero mag restocks for that one anon>>65554140Nta but I recently read Between Two Fires, a grimdark christian fantasy set during the black plague and I highly reccomend it.
>>65554140Depends on your objective. From that pic for just about anyone: St. Augustine's on the free choice of the will. Its short, and touches on a looot of things: the problem of evil, intangible, intermediate, and material goods, circumstance and Providence, how exactly choosing evil is choosing a lesser good than the potential good you might have achieved. It's great. For another, that intro to the Hebrew Bible or the intro to the New Testament. The Kreeft is good too for knowing how platonic philosophy informed Christian theology in the earliest centuries, a thousand years before protties shat the bed.fic: a canticle for leibowitz, or the first three dune novels>>65554148DFW is so smug i cant>>65554218based
>>65552271Well, of course, there is also Steven from Ohio. Apparently he can levitate. So I'm gonna hedge my bets
>>65553367I need to get a carry belt. I just have a normal leather belt. Was a little uncomfortable desu. I definitely need baggier pants and shirts now too. So many things I had not considered going into this.
>>65554233Well I speak spanish with a heavy castilian accent so I'm fucked anyway
What do you guys think about 9mm Winchester silver tips for self defense? Are there better options?
>>65554365I use them against werewolves all the time.
>>65554365Personally I like Federal HSTs, I've been carrying 124 grains
>>65553367I feel dumb but I thought the wing was better for appendix carry? I don't really get how it helps for strongside. Doesn't it just push your belt out more at that position?
>>65554365They're fine but I doubt it's cheaper than the top 3 so why
>>65554365There is no reason to use anything but Gold Dots or HSTs
Next thread OP should be Argentina related
Is this shit a meme?
>>65554424
>>65554457I see so many people use them, figure it's just ppl who have no clue?
I really wish the avatarfagging 509 nigger would fuck off again like he did six months agonobody gives a shit how much you like X brand whiskey or what jumble shartsman said about Y gun, dude
>>65554343>I definitely need baggier pants and shirts now too.Button downs naturally flare out at the hip and that helps reduce printing, anything with a pattern wether t shirt or button down will also help break up the print. Pic rel is me pulling a button down as tight as i can behind my back to force it to print and it still is basically impossible to tell I'm carrying. As for pants, all you need to do is size up in waistband by 2", same with the carry belt. Carry belts help prevent your pants sagging down with the added weight but also keep the holster close to your body both reducing printing and making it MUCH more comfortable when you sit down. I love my hanks, my buddy loves his kore, people love their blue force alphas. It doesnt matter brand for gun belts, just get what you aethetically like and would want to wear so you actually wear it.>>65554377Wing attachments pull the grip of your pistol towards your waistline when carrying strong side reducing printing as what prints most is the butt of the grip. A lot of people find it also makes it more comfortable to carry but your milage may vary.
>>65554457They don't make those for my caliber
>>65554157These were a lot cooler when they were going for $300
>>65554502And pic rel is showing where the gun was as well as demonstrating that the carry belt is keeping the gun from canting away from my waistline which would print more and reduce comfort.
>>65554504What weirdo hipster cartridge do you use?
>>6555452532NAA
>>6555452545-70
>>65554502Oh damn yeah that's sick. Can't tell at all in the photo.
>>65552565I guess I should share some of the prices.>CZ82 $600>Otherwise plain SAA $3500>Norinco Type 54 $400>Bryco something or other $250>Lorcin L380 $280
>>65554488I like 509c anon, he's very passionate about his piece and makes cool photos with it
>>65554558>cz82 for 600isn't that expensive?
>>65554565Those are all ripoffs. Going rate for the Norinco is $200-250 (it is the cheapest Tokarev you can buy in 9x19 prices are about the same as a Zastava M57 usually), the $280 for a fucking Lorcin is an outrage (it is a $60-80 gun, but people will buy them as novelties for how shit they were for $100). The CZ82 is $250-350 depending on condition.There also was a Mossberg 715T for $350, which was a gun that sold new for $300 in 2024 and is just a 702 plinkster with a body shell to make it look like an AR-15. Shitty gun, the 715p (the pistol version) is perhaps the worst I have personally shot. If you want I can tell you guys my thoughts on it, but it is hard to be brief.
>>65554581Oh yeah lorcins and bryco iirc are just those super shitty ring of fire guns. Those are some dogshit prices
>>65554420Anyone got a Ballester Molina?
>>65553947>why?In case I have to defend myself inside my vehicle>keep it in your glove boxThere might not be enough time to reach it which is why I also keep my pistol loaded bedside.
>>65554584Yep, the very worst handguns. Though a Bryco/Jennings is not as bad as their reputation go, still not a gun you want unless you are too poor to even afford a Hi-Point. Then and only then should you consider a Jennings, Bryco or Jimenez (same shit, different day).Not that anyone asked, but in case someone wants a 715P or 715T, the design is by all means retarded. A lot of people will buy it as a training gun since .22lr is an appealing caliber and it might help people get to know what an AR-15 is like. Or at least that is what the average customer may think, but apart from the appearance, they couldn't be further apart. The 715 family, which is a 702 with a body shell as mentioned above is a blowback action versus the rotating bolt of the AR. Additionally, the safety selector, mag release and charging handle are all different.Of course this bring up, is the 715 good on its own? The answer to that is no. Simply put, the 715 is a jam-o-matic, usually Mossberg build tolerances are loose, looser than one should expect which causes constant failures to feed, failures to eject. The mag design means you are stuck to Mossberg's own mags and they are full of clunky ejector pin marks and seams which lead to further headaches. The design causes a lot of heat to not be bled off unlike the 702 which causes the bolt to the bolt to slow down, which also causes short cycling since the paint, carbon and heat produce a thick sludge. Of course this can be resolved by cleaning, but this too is a headache, while the I shot was not mine (thank goodness). The plastic body is held on with 14(!) screws and each and everyone one has to be removed before you can even think about servicing.So really, if you see one, avoid. These sell at ring of fire gun prices for a reason. Bitch to own, bitch to shoot, bitch to service. Just get a 702 if you are dead set on a Mossberg rifle or any other option if you are looking for something like an AR-15, but in .22lr.
>>65553231Brand of holster?
>>65553114it doesn't even know you exist.
Went to my monthly pistol shooting event tonight at my local range and this the breakdown. There were about 17 people there tonight. The following handguns were used:1x USP (me)1x 19111x .22LR AR Pistol with FRT (also 1911 guy)4x SA .38 SPL revolver (cowboy action shooter)1x CZ Shadow 2(Also cowboy guy)1x Springfield EchelonAnd the rest were all GlawksNot a Sig in sight which is strange cause I would say this time last year it was overwhelmingly p365/320 territory
>>65554677Was it an independent ruleset or something? IDPA has already banned the P320 at sanctioned events so that might have something to do with it.
>>65554677>no Bersas>no PSA Daggers>no Berettaswhat is the world coming to T_T
>>65554685It was a casual event >>65554692Sorry, I usually bring my Beretta but I wanted to shoot .45 ACP
>>65554698what Beretta anon?>>65554707>>65554707>>65554707>>65554707>>65554707
>>65554666:(
>>65554655CompTac CTAC. They changed owners and dont make it anymore, which is a shame.
