>>65552859
Drones are fucking gay but anything to stay ahead of china is good.

Eh. We already have a dedicated infrastructure for larger unmanned systems in the air force, and the smaller shasneeds and FPV sized assets should be organic at the company level rather than in their own little ghetto. Its not a terrible idea to have a workgroup for drone advancement and iteration, but I dont see what this does better than existing natick or darpa initiatives.

>>65552859
Didn't they disband the drone unit??????

>>65552871
>I dont see what this does better than existing natick or darpa initiatives.
I think the goal is to win.
As opposed to whatever the fuck is happening at fentcom.

>>65552859
Getting US military bases off civilian power grid and 6 new Senior Military Colleges is the more interesting stuff.

>>65552859
>Thoughts?
Good idea in principle, but it seems that drones need to be integrated organically at all levels in existing formations and commands.

>>65552875
Troll?

>>65552875
Perhaps the plan was to always do what Hegseth is doing now with a fully dedicated command as this type of stuff takes months/weeks to coordinate, but it's also quite possible the backlash he got over his current retard spree forced his hand in making this.
>>65552871
I think the plan is to concentrate everything into a single command structure that's fully dedicated to research and learning how Drones, AI, and automated platforms work out in a warzone/modern military. The individual branches will most likely have something similar built into their own force strutctures, but this at least gets the foot in the door for a much larger (and needed) military automation footprint

>>65552875
Didn't someone say the unit was just a training unit? Now they're taking whatever the unit learned and restructuring things to make use of said knowledge?

>>65552875
That was an infantry battalion temporarily converted to an experimental drone unit and then converted back. This is a 4 star level command.

>>65552898
>Didn't someone say the unit was just a training unit?
It was made to basically figure out what the Ukrainians were doing and how it could fit into currently exisiting US force structures as well as what the US can and should do differently.
>Now they're taking whatever the unit learned and restructuring things to make use of said knowledge?
They're turning the unit into a whole ass command. It's a massive expansion

>>65552875
The experimental training unit? Yeah, it got disbanded. Because the experimental training was over. Retard.

>>65552859
I'd like it less if they hadn't cut 10% of geneeal officers. I still think the airforce should be be cut up in rolled into the Space Force and Army and the Marines should be full integrated into the Navy.

Strategically speaking, a pivot like this hangs on a scale.
You can slide your existing resources to be 100% focused on this new initiative, or you can have it be a ceremonial unit with 0% of resources, or you can land somewhere in between where the new initiative complements existing/upcoming initiatives.
This misses the point.
The point is that that regardless of how much the focus is shifted, whether it's 0%, 100% or somewhere inbetween, the direction may not be the issue - the issue may well be foundational.
Take for example - it is easy to put forth retrospectives on "what ukraine/russia should've done differently ahead of 2022", however few minds pay attention to "what native americans should've done differently ahead of the American Indian wars".
It's difficult to see America to be in such a dire strait (heh) militarily, yet all strategic indicators and military outcomes continue to indicate that the nation not only lacks the means to continue its current force sizes, but also that it lacks the means to meaningfully adapt in offensive roles.
Then again, it's also worth asking - if the trillion dollar military with thousands of cutting edge jets and top of the line everything is struggling with strategic objectives, what does being a military superpower actually mean? What objectives are actually realistic in a future battlefield?

>>65552883
But there’s already like 11 of them

>>65552904
Wonder what kind of bs the military is up to considering the fuck you amounts of money they have

>>65552919
agreed, they need to cut 90% of general officers

what officers did they even cut?

>>65552919
I see Special Ed. got out. How was school little timmy
>>65552950
20% of all current 1 star and above. Don't think any real details were put out into the public as I don't think the list has been finalized yet

>>65552925
Verbose poltard copium is still poltard copium. Kys

>>65552914
You're supposed to ignore that part and immediately go "orange man bad" for anything associated with him

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>>65552859
>controlled by an illegal African immigrant who is a citizen of the enemy state of Canada
Pottery.

>>65553026
>We can't kill you so we'll ask you nicely to kys
Grim.

>>65552871
>Air Force cares about air and force uhh integration
>company and on down assets cares about company and on down happenings
>drone bukake center will just care about drones and drone accessories 24/7

>>65552859
Super
Intelligence
Multiple
Precision
Strikes

Command

>>65553001
Where is your rebuttal? Butthurt flyboy or crayon eater?
Army does land and its own aviation.
Marines are already technically Navy, there is no need to have all the resources for an entire separate branch, they can even still be called Marines and train to higher standards, but fully integrate them into the Navy, they dont need their own camo, uniforms, weapons, air.
Air Force didn't even exist until after WWII
Split it up between Army, Navy and Space Force.
Done properly you save millions and nake everything more efficient.

>>65553042
I assume you mean Elon? He's been a legal US citizen since George W.

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Hegseth:
>I'm announcing Project Meridian, an effort led by America's best minds to study the future of warfare. It will be co-led by three of our nations best minds: Elon Musk, Palmer Lucky, and Newt Gingrich.
>We are announcing the creation of Autonomous Warfare Command, or AUTOWARCOMM. A new 4-star combatant command built to scale autonomous and robotic capabilities across the joint force.
>We are launching Fortress America, a national insurance policy for the American homeland. Now FORTRESS stands for Federal Operations for Resilience Troop Resources...Energy... Supply and Survivability. Here's what FORTRESS calls for: Every major military installation in America is going to generate its own power independent from the civilian grid.
Chinks gonna beat our cheeks until we bleed out of our assholes

>>65553168
So besides the creation of yet another think tank out of the thousands out there, what exactly is wrong with the 2nd and 3rd besides the cringeworthy names?

>>65552871
>the smaller shasneeds
A company shouldn't be trying to plan and organise it's own midrange strikes 20-30km in the enemy's rear on logistics.

>>65553173
The third one is kinda pointless. If the enemy, whopever that is, is deep enough up your ass to take down your domestic grid, it's already ogre.

>>65552932
Which is why it is interesting that they are elevating 6 more, at the same time as cutting the general staff.

>>65553168
Did you have anything of substance to contribute?

>>65553173
The 2nd one is just asking grok for advice

>>65553173
>>65553179
I notice Hegseth defenders are getting more shrill and aggressive. I guess they get excited and pull soifaces when he says the word "trannies".

>>65553177
You don't see it as a back door to mini nuke power reactors?
Valar Atomics came out with Project Beehive recently, they want to use 450 mini nuclear reactors to power a massive A.I. data center on federal land in Utah.

>>65553182
So, no, you don't have anything to contribute.

>>65553181
>>65553182
So do either of you have any legitimate objections or is it all just "muh kegsbreath"? No one even mentioned trannies, wonder what made that the first to come to mind for you.

>>65553184
I don't know very much about nuclear power, but wouldn't large plants be more efficient? Most things work on economies of scale.

>>65553186
>>65553187
>[Screeching Intensifies]
See what I mean?
I'm not even this guy >>65553168

>>65553192
Sounds like you're one of the buttblasted shills from the other drone thread upset that your 2 month old narrative no longer holds water.

>>65553188
I have no idea, mini reactors that can run a single factory or be transported in a tractor trailer or a spacecraft have been getting a decent amount of funding the past years. Bill Gates is in on one of the companies.

>>65553195
I would like to think this has beneficial naval applications.

>>65553193
I've been on the rig for two weeks. No internet. Try again tho, Screech.

>>65553188
Large plants are more efficient as you correctly point out, but come with huge up front costs and lead times. It's also a waste if you don't actually need that much power.

>>65553196
Also for power propagation for laser SHORAD.

>>65553197
Yes, Ivan Ivanovich from Gulf of Amerikkka Oblast, that other thread just popped up today and got shut down before it even began. Nice try though.

>>65553198
>you don't actually need that much power.
Well we kinda do. I saw a Euro proposal to bring down large NPP costs by building 40-50 standardized plants initially by French engineers, all over Europe, bringing down the cost to about $6 billion each by the final rollout. All told the plan was to generate 80GW
Seemed like a good idea, but again, I'm not an expert

>>65553202
>I saw a Euro proposal
Lmao, so they'll end up building like 2 and they'll cost 60 billion each, only to be shut down after a year due to protests or something.
In any case, that's probably also a good argument in favor of small reactors now that I think about it.

>>65553200
>Brings up Ukraine and Russia out of nowhere
Weird.
But hey I'll bite. It's also weird you accuse me of being Russian. Russians love Hegseth because
>He hates Europe
>He hates NATO
>He hates Ukraine
>He does everything he can to prevent assistance reaching Ukraine
>Including stopping things Trump actually approved
Anyway, this isn't a Ukraine thread Ivan, so lets not try to make it one.

>>65553195
TerraPower. They are building a reactor in Wyoming with the DOE and have deals with Berkshire Hathaway and Meta.

>>65552869
This you, Ivan?

>>65553214
So do you have anything to say besides muh kegsbreath or whatever? All I've seen you do is just bitch without contributing anything.

>>65553188
Once built a large plant will turn a higher percentage of produced thermal power into electric power. A small plant as envisioned by Valar could be mass manufactured on an assembly line, making them exponentially cheaper to install

>>65553188
>>65553198
Large plants aren't being built by the people with money in the AI and doomsday bunker business.

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>>65553192
literally vidrel

>>65553220
Could you just go away you weirdo. Stop trying to turn everything into a shitflinging match.

>>65553230
>>65553229
>>65553198
>>65553195
Ok, I can see the value of decentralizing the grid I guess. But what are the hard numbers of $ value to kwh for large plants and mini ones? Like, which is giving us more bang for the buck?

>>65553188
Yes, but also
>>65553229
This
And having a nuclear reactor that you can fit or even airlift to power a base, hospital, factory, bunker or install in a frigate, spaceceaft, opens up a lot of opportunities. Now you have a vehicle that doesn't need to worry about fuel for 20 years. Or you now have megawatts to power lasers to down incoming missiles and drones, or run a desalination plant, or perform water electrolysis.

>>65553237
Military doesn't care. For most civilian use a large centralized plant is cheaper, provided of course you can insure the integrity of the grid.

>>65553202
This is exactly how French build their nuclear energy. Bought a reactor type and built it 50 times.
I am even more mad, ever since I found out that Euratom wanted to push for the Western European countries to begin a massive nuclear buildout in the wake of 73 oil crisis but in reality only France and Sweden actually went with [the spirit of] the plan

>Elon and Newt Gingrich
Yikes

didn't Elon call Donald a pedophile?

>>65553148
Retard take.

>Air Force didn't even exist until after WWII
And then it did because everybody at long last figured out that trying to run it as a branch of the army was retarded, inefficient and counterproductive.

>>65553251
That was before digital.

>>65553255
>muh digital
Irrelevant. Seperate air force chain of command is organisational superior regardless of mode of communication.

>>65553251
Explain why the Air Force should be separate. What advantage is gained by having all the different uniforms and standards and regulations and bases and etc instead of the airforce doing the same job it does now but being in the Army.
Or the Navy.
Or the Space Force.

>>65553257
>Separate chains of command is superior
So you are a fucking moron, okay. Good day.

>>65552859
what happened to US Cyber Command?

>>65552859
The retard dug up fucking Newt Gingrich for this. No, seriously. I had no idea that bastard was even alive!

>>65553259
Digital doesn't make a huge amount of difference. The primary problems with unified chains of command or to do with humans, for example fiefdom building. But that's not to say separating everything into de jure fiefdoms is better. It depends on what you need to do, really.

>>65553269
>Newt Gingrich
The guy from Star Wars?

>>65553235
>The one trying to turn the thread into a shitflinging match over muh kegsbreath is now crying that others are trying to turn the thread into a shitflinging match
Pottery

>>65553234
>me when I see booba

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>>65553269
I honestly thought he was dead, too. He has returned from the Moon Base to guide us in times of war!

>>65553178
Yeah but Liberty University? That’s a diploma mill

>>65553258
Why should there be any branches? Why not just roll the Navy and Army into the same branch?

>>65553408
That comes once we are under a global government and have off world colonies.
Does that satisfy your failed attempt at reductio ad absurdum?

>>65553373
And the other 5 Universities are pretty much retard tier as well
>Louisiana State University
>Tuskegee University
>Mississippi State University
>Hillsdale College

The only one of these that has an acceptance rate below 70% is Hillsdale, and they have a student body of 1,500 which is basically a large high school.

>>65553413
No because you haven’t explained your position. How would rolling the Air Force and Army into the same branch not diminish the efficacy of both by splitting funding and creating organizational bloat?

>>65553416
Well technically speaking the army and air force and navy are already in one branch, the Department of Defense. And then a couple steps down you have unified commands like CENTCOM The Eater Of Resources.

>>65553416
>splitting funding
How?
>Bloat
It already is. We have different services for different branches' bases.

>>65553415
At least Tuskegee has a prior military history
Miss State and LSU focuses on completely different subjects
Hillsdale is an unknown
Liberty is a megachurch funded university that’s got a 99% acceptance rate but like a 25% grad rate

>>65552883
>>65552878
so fvucking tvrue fellow patriot oorah and / or hooah

>>65553428
>We have different services for different branches' bases.
Well yeah, because they different needs. A naval base needs to be on the water because their whole specialty is maritime warfare, and a base in San Diego is gonna have different logistical needs than a base in Oklahoma. As for consolidating bases, it’d be a massive cluster fuck that would turn already massive Army installations into medium sized cities that would be an absolute nightmare to police and maintain.

>>65553462
Bold of you to assume Kegsbreath defenders spent a single day in. Unless the "in" you're talking about was Chinese/Russian psyops units.

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>>65553188
Last I checked, nuclear energy is just a very fancy water boiler so idk how portable nuclear reactors are gonna be used

>>65552875
>he bought the "Blumpf ends use of drones in military" headlines
journalists are subhuman

>>65553750
Modern journalism is as bad as those clickbait youtube videos nowadays.

>>65553220
>He's still actually sincerely defending Kegseth
Fuckin weirdo

>>65553184
Mini reactors to power military bases were planned before AI was a thing. A couple bases are slated to receive their own reactors by the end of next year.

>>65553260
Nothing? It's still there

>>65553184
>You don't see it as a back door to mini nuke power reactors?
The Pentagon has come out and said that they want the military to be the one to jump start the rise of mini nuclear reactors with 5? bases already planned to be given mini reactors as a case study. Expect to see a shit ton of these miniature reactors start popping up across the US within the next 10-20 years

>>65553168
clown country

/k/ really needs flags

>>65553177
The fuck you mean “deep enough”, there’s enough Chinese people in America all it would take is 1 guy with a pair of bolt cutters to fuck our power grid

>>65552859
Burgers trying to make temu copies of what Ukraine is doing

>>65553168
>We are announcing the creation of Autonomous Warfare Command, or AUTOWARCOMM. A new 4-star combatant command built to scale autonomous and robotic capabilities across the joint force.
>We are launching Fortress America, a national insurance policy for the American homeland. Now FORTRESS stands for Federal Operations for Resilience Troop Resources...Energy... Supply and Survivability. Here's what FORTRESS calls for: Every major military installation in America is going to generate its own power independent from the civilian grid.
Dang, those are actually genuinely great ideas, was Hegseth actually smart this whole time?

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>>65553924
yes, yes chang from ohio province. just like it took one ukranian to fuck up puccias power grid or one pidor with bolt cutters to fuck up ukranian power grid

>>65553939
Oh, so all the people who were saying the 2nd amendment is pointless because insurgents aren’t able to damage America’s infrastructure enough to matter so the government would win were actually right?

>>65554006
NTA but huh?

>>65554034
In old /k/ it was frequently pointed out whenever people would say a rebellion against the government is impossible because of tanks and drones that you don’t need to attack the tanks and drones, you can just fuck up the power and water supply since they are quite undefended and vulnerable.

Apparently that was actually a Chinese lie and the people don’t stand a chance against the government.

>>65554051
>haha, now neither of us have potable water
Let's stop thinking of ways to ruin everything for everyone, and try to compromise and work together so our state continues to function.
I do not know if it is (or is not) possible for antigovernment rebels to reduce our country from first-world status to something less with just small arms and ANFO bombs... but I don't want to. I LIKE clean drinking water.

>>65554060
That requires the actor to be uncle Ted tier.
Most actors are trannies and niggers. You’ll sooner see the government burn down black Wall Street again then let an Afrocentrist or low level troon stop the flow of pozz to Botswana.
Not to mention the opposed bystander effect: Ted was caught by his brother and sister. America runs on the fact that the meme of some random guy in his front yard will help the cops apprehend and kneel on a random stray glow nigger assets, let alone FOB tier foreign agents.

>>65554060
>I do not know if it is (or is not) possible for antigovernment rebels to reduce our country from first-world status to something less with just small arms and ANFO bombs
No, it's not. Feds infiltrate pretty much everything above a small friendgroup in such fields and are also monitoring all your messages and shit anyways, or more correctly your phone company is. The coordination to pull it off also doesn't exist in the modern fringe sphere. The sorts of people who are willing to do those attacks are, currently, also the sort of people who will shoot their partners for being skinwalker infiltrators.

>>65554138
What are you even talking about
>>>/x/ is that way, schizo-kun

>>65554146
Good.
99% of the time these guys don't even have a realistic endgame, its all LARPing gone too far and they know it. Half of them, look incredibly shame, faced in their mug shots, as if it finally dawned on them how too much Internet and two little social interaction can lead to this sort of tunnel vision.

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Out of curiousity, why is Hegseth such a shibboleth for /pol/? You'd think his hatred of trannies and exaggerated machismo would make them natural allies

>>65554165
IDK why Siri put commas there but it aggravates me

>>65554168
Because he’s a pretty standard apolitical military soldier and pol prefers the soldiers that are very political

>>65554168
Because he's bombed their cousins back home and/or bot (Bob Smith from Ohio <whatever top-level administrative units are used by Iran>) point of orgins?

>>65554173
>apolitical military soldier
He's a former Fox News host where even there he stood out as the biggest head cheerleader of Donald Trump on a network full of cheerleaders. All of his plans are culture war bullshit.

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Out of curiosity, why is every MAGA spawn such a hero figure for /k/? You'd think Trump's hatred and betrayal of Ukraine, threats to disband NATO, and his love for third world leaders like Xi and Putin would make them natural enemies and fifth columns

>>65553177
>it's already ogre.
do you propose to throw a white flag the moment chinese will land on california or something? you should be ready for everything.

>>65554182
>All of his plans are culture war bullshit.
Only if you call learning from the Ukraine War “culture war bullshit”. I call it being smart. Better to fight the next war than the last war.

>>65554189
Can you show me where on /k/ Hegseth or Trump are being praised or worshipped as a hero?

>>65554189
Because he’s been somewhat okay for gun rights in America and nothing he’s done has actually harmed the Ukrainian war effort or NATO in any way

>>65554197
>Only if you call learning from the Ukraine War “culture war bullshit”.
Come on Anon, he didn't start work yesterday lmao. Be serious.
And how exactly did he and Trump nurture that relationship between UAF drone operators and our military?

>>65554209
Via military exercises

>>65554200
His bosses literally brag about abandoning Ukraine

>>65554198
>>65554182
NTA but these are so laughably, deliberately ignorant of the last 18 months of Hegseth's almost daily culture war battles that it come perilously close. "There are none so blind, as will not see" and I think we all know why.
>apolitical military soldier
indeed!

Also every Hegseth-related thread has at least one dickrider who conflates any criticism of the upjumped cable news TV host as reason to call dissenters trannies. Trust me, he's somehow got admirers and adoring fans even on /k/.

>>65554198
Right in the thread you're posting in
>>65553182
>>65553188

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>>65554214
hehehehe

Someone is being deliberately obtuse.

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>>65554225
Neither one of those posts do that though, in fact, one is the fucking opposite

>>65553188
Yes, they are... but they tend to be bespoke designs, with each being built from scratch, and often a little different from each other. This makes them extraordinarily expensive to build, with no economies of scale and few lessons-learned from each build.

The whole promise of SMRs (Small Modular Reactors) is that they can be built quickly (lower finance costs and faster payback) and in large quantities (economies of scale and lessons learned leading to faster/better/cheaper production). The military is also interested in them specifically because they can be shipped anywhere the military sets up shop, and buried/fortified to protect them from attack. That improves a lot of the military's logistical needs (far less diesel needed for generators) for expeditionary bases.

Also, I believe there are something like 6 major bases that have partnered with 6 different nuclear companies for reactors to partially power said bases, as part of an experiment towards this end. That's in addition to what SecWar talked about.

>>65554224
whoops meant to link >>65554173 instead of the reply

>>65554230
Then just read what that post is replying to, some dumb fuck migamutt crying about "kegsbreath"

>>65554182
A lot of the “culture war stuff” is just part and parcel of having an effective military, see Ukraine as an example

>>65554225
...are you a bot, an ESL, or just this fucking stupid?

>>65554237
Then link THAT post you absolute fucking invalid

>>65554242
Yes I'm an ESL bot bleep bloop Ukraine should be grateful they still get American thoughts and prayers.

>>65554246
>>65553187
>>65553179
>>65553193

>>65554200
>nothing he’s done has actually harmed the Ukrainian war effort or NATO in any way
The very first thing he did in his new position was say Ukraine can't win and they should accept whatever deal in put on the table for them. Do we have to remind ourselves what fantastic deals Trump's has presented to Zelensky the times Trump wasn't humiliating him in the Oval or how many times he's blame Ukraine for starting the war?

>>65554256
>The very first thing he did in his new position was say Ukraine can't win and they should accept whatever deal in put on the table for them
And nothing came about from that and Ukraine is still fighting. Actions matter more than words

>>65554265
>And nothing came about from that and Ukraine is still fighting
They're fighting without any US supplied lethal aid at all.

>>65554269
Which has freed them to target Russian refineries while America blows Russia’s allies to hell

>>65554273
Not supplying them weaponry doesn't free them up to do anything you fart sniffing brown bastard it's done nothing but harm or hamper them. Same with the Iran War, that does not help them at all.

More to the discussion:

Not only is Trump obstructing aid, he is now demanding payment for the aid Ukraine's already received since Biden.
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/us-seek-back-payment-europe-ukraine-aid-trump-says-2026-09-03/

Who does this help?

>>65554256
That's just a statement of fact. Ukraine will not win the war. Russia has enough conscripts to bury all of Ukraine six feet deep in zigger corpses. The best Ukraine can hope for is that Putin dies and Russia gets bored and goes home before the last Ukranian is raped to death. It would be in their best interest to negotiate for an end to the war sooner rather than later.

>>65554277
Conveniently all the art of the deals Trump has provided gives Russia all their gains and most of what they claim, including all the regional capitals they're nowhere near.

>>65554276
>Who does this help?
American taxpayers who shouldn't have to fund an intra-slavic forever war that has no impact on American interests.

>>65554276
American weapons came with conditions against using them on deep strikes into Russian territory, after America ceased their aid to Ukraine Europe picked up all the slack since they still had a bunch of reserves lying around. Ukraine didn’t suffer at all from Trump’s election, if anything they’re doing better now than they ever have been, a 3:1 kill ratio at minimum, they haven’t even had to tap into their manpower reserves, and they’ve made liberals seethe all the while.

>>65554276
>"We are going through an energy shock right now due to both the war in Ukraine - because, you know, Ukraine has decided that they want to blow up Russian energy assets and refined products, so that is creating upward price pressure on a global basis - and then the conflict in Iran," he told Fox News in an interview.
lol

>>65554285
Hello John from Iowa Oblast, how are you this night?

>>65554286
>American weapons came with conditions against using them on deep strikes into Russian territory
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA wrong
Biden authorized strikes inside Russia after a long time. Nobody falls for you shit zigger.

You should honestly kill yourself before you get mooooobilized

>>65554292
>Biden authorized strikes inside Russia after a long time
Good. Took him long enough. Either way though Ukraine isn’t exactly hurting for weapons, they’ve been given permission to build their own Patriot missiles.

>>65554292
> Slav shill accusing others of being a slav shill
No actual American cares what happens between Ukraine and Russia. The only American interests in either country are some form of organized crime or money laundering.

>>65554307
Nobody will respond to this post to tell you you're wrong because this is a migger and zigger hive. You're in good company.

>>65554250
Are you just linking posts at random? Did you get assigned to shill here for the election and you have no idea how the actual website works?

>>65554318
Yeah man

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https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/trump-explains-why-he-is-not-giving-ukraine-1790858692.html
>n-no... you can't have that
>y-you can't even use it...
>also you're to blame for gasoline prices, surrender to Putin now

>>65554327
And yet Ukraine continues to win

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oh dear, it's him again. Even in a thread that has nothing to do with the three day ruslim war, he still seethes about it.

>>65554328
Could be winning harder, but y'know gotta fight in the sand for Israel again

>>65554239
Care to elaborate, vague-kun?

>>65554196
No, but your domestic grid is something you need to prioritize in defending. If you can't, it means your ability to defend in general is at the least very compromised. On reflection I was a bit too assertive in saying "already ogre", it's nuanced. The enemy can hit your grid and you can repair it, Ukraine shows that. I guess it's more a case of, if the enemy has complete control of your rear area to the extent it can take down your entire grid -and- keep it down, then you're pretty much beaten. Notably, going back to Ukraine, Russia can do neither of those things.

>>65554336
Liberals love to bitch constantly about Ukraine’s “patriarchal attitudes” about the men’s duty to stay and fight, or them allowing right-wing figures into their military, but thats because Ukraine had an actual war to win and can’t be concerned with offending liberals feelings over, you know, actually winning the fucking war.

>>65554265
He also cut off US SIGINT (temporarily) and allowed Russia to make their biggest gains of the last 2 years. He cut arms shipments back. Ukraine literally begged, publicly, for Patriots. And Trump was going to allow them to produce them under license, but he backtracked on that too.
>the "why haven't you thanked me" made-for-reality-TV ambush was nothing, just breaking balls haha!
yeah youre a disingenuous faggot.

>>65554348
Well we don’t want Ukraine to win too quick, the longer the war goes on the more Russians die, the more Russians die the less their race will plague the Earth.

The USA of A (my country) does of no need to supplying The Ukraine when The Ukraine should be grateful for what sleepy joe gave them for free from USAian moneypayers

>>65554344
I've never heard anyone say that ever and I live in one of the bluest states lmao. Not online, not IRL around my vast community of libcuck neighbors.
Get off the internet Billy Ray. I can see the /pol/ brainrot from across the continental divide.

>>65554344
We're not pretending American conservatives are more pro-Ukraine than American libs again are we?

>>65554360
That’s cause you’re on 4chan retard, this place is pretty fucking right wing compared to the actual left spaces on the internet like Reddit

>>65554364
I mean not in their words but de-facto the conservatives have ensured far more Russians die through their actions

>>65554355
>if we give them fewer and less-lethal weapons, and publicly urge them to surrender constantly, while continually degrading the anti-Russian European alliance... this will surely kill more ziggers
Ah, the famed "outright hostility/retardation is in fact le 5d chess" mental gymnastics.
If I didn't know any better I would think you got into Uncle Pootpoot's private reserve of military-grade monke copium.

>>65554344
....Anon, where are you getting this from? Every fucking libshit I know IRL is fiendishly pro-Ukraine, with the only anti-Ukrainian lefties being trannies and tankies.

>>65554378
How do you figure that when an alleged conservative gets into office and the first thing he does is turn off the Zigger Killer 3000 machine?

>>65552934
Figuring out how to take the cheap drones used in Ukraine and make them at least ten times more expensive.

>>65554380
Retard, Putin is already having to draft another 300,000 men, if the war ended in a month we wouldn’t get to kill them

>>65554387
Nobody falls for this. Migger or zigger hands typed this post, doesn't even matter which.

>>65554382
Reddit, Tumblr, Bluesky, the usual places lefties like to hang out, you’re not gonna find them on 4chan

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>>65552859
>giving a combatant command acquisition authority
This is fundamentally retarded. Of all the stupid shit this moron has pulled, this might actually be the most ruinous.

The combatant commands are resource hogs without institutional checks. They aren't responsible for anything but operations, so they continually make retarded asks on the state side formations that are actually supposed to generate the forces and materiel for them. You want to know why USN ship maintenance is so fucked? CCMDs keep demanding ships for operations and the CNO can't tell them "No" because they don't report to him. Army formations getting burnt out due to high peacetime optempo? CCMDs keep demanding brigade level deployments and the CSA can't tell them "No" because they report to people two levels above him.

The CCDRs justify everything as "urgent operational need" and SecDef and POTUS never say no because they don't want to be the one responsible for shorting anything defense related. They already parasitize the budget as is. The DoD has a $285 billion basic building maintenance backlog because they've had to siphon money away from basic tasks to shovel into the endless bonfire of the combatant commands. They are letting buildings and troops rot because INDOPACOM wants another Amphibious Ready Group to do a bullshit presence patrol. The commanders are incetivized to do it because they're evaluated on how much they do. There's no disincentive to do something because they don't actually pay for anything they do.

Giving these careerists who already dabble in the MIC's revolving-door corruption, actual budget authority is a horrendously bad idea. Giving them that authority with minimal project evaluations and advisement by the people they're supposed to buy from is beyond the pale of retardation.

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>>65554369
>im well-informed on liberal biefs because I'm on a right-wing website infested with bots and jeets and other state-run disinfo agencies from powers that are hostile to the United States
come again?

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>>65554391
What about places like Truth Social?

>>65554396
No, I'm well informed on liberal beliefs because I do spend time on those left-wing websites and I see it all the time

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>>65554387
>>65554389
>Migger or zigger
There's a difference?

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>>65554397
>Zelenskyy please surrender to my deal so I may save on average 5000 Russian soldiers a day

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>>65554391
And why do you spend time on those sites?

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>>65554404
This one is even better. Seething about money and Zelensky being a dictator.

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>>65554408
Cause it's enjoyable to see how retarded they are

>>65554413
Is this screenshot supposed to mean anything or did you just want to talk about le kidnapped men

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>>65554399
Of course you do, why wouldn't you
Yes I'm sure having Ukraine tamp down their "patriarchal" system is more important than taking down the primier anti-gay (well, publicly at least, hahaha), anti-feminist, anti-green poster boy currently around.
Yes I'm sure we'll find plenty of sincere, concrete steps towards fixing this problem. Perhaps even some big liberal names. But why am I telling a big libcuck news experts like you all of this anyway

>>65554416
Anon, look at the upvotes. 657 reddit retards fell for this concern-posting bait. It was at the top of the Europe page.

>>65554418
Anyone who thinks Russia is 'anti-gay' is deeply unfamiliar with their rape practices.

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>>65554423
>Anon, look at the upvotes.
Uh, why? What does 657 updoots mean?

>>65554413
aaaaaaand the mask comes off!
nice try zigger

Ziggers WILL get cubed.
Demonrats WILL take back both Houses and FORCE Trump to kit out Ukraine (Kegseth will be gone).
And all your shilling will be for nothing.

>>65554426
I said
>publicly
for a reason

>>65554427
>>65554428
It means Reddit's either brigaded with Russians (likely tbf) or Redditors are easily baited by Russian concern-posting.

>>65554436
>Redditors are easily baited
I don't even go there and I know that from all those cuckposting LARPs that faggots insist on posting here.

>>65554395
Its open corruption.

Defense contractors want to sell their latest bullshit at high markups, but all the hoops of the acquisition process are designed to actually evaluate things in the military's favor. The product has to actually be needed, has do actually do what it says it will, has to be priced sensibly, and has to be built right. This just cuts everything out so that they can huck billions of dollars of shit before anyone can actually do the due diligence.

>inb4 somebody posts the expensive toilet seat
The process works far more often than it doesn't. Case in point is the F-35 program. Back when it was a budget wrecking dumpster fire, it turns out that the USMC general in charge was approving every Lockheed payment request because Major General Heinz, the program manager, was short cutting all processes to fraudulently (basically) approve billions in payments to Lockheed. He did it because the Lockheed contact spun him a corporate sob story and Heinz didn't bother to check to see if the story was true, or if that even obligated the JSF program to do anything about it. It was only after Secretary Gates sent someone in to audit, fired Heinz, and reset the program back to following regulations that it stopped being a dumpster fire.

>>65554436
Doubt it. Reddit/s major subreddits are the few other places on the internet that funnily enough, are a bit more russophobic than /k/. So much so that you will find the usually self-censoring, politically correct libshit redditors openly calling for TZD.

>>65554447
And yet they fall for Russian bait all the time, that was from the Europe sub which is supposedly very pro-Ukraine and yet they can't even tell zigger propaganda when it's right in front of them

>>65552859
>AutoWarCom
Name has aura

>>65554450
But you're the zigger propagandist in this thread.

>>65554447
Reddit is hilariously compromised by Russian and Chinese agitprop and has no shortage of people falling for it. You can find loads of posts urging Canada to become hostile towards the US and cozy up to China, for example.

>>65554454
Okay Ivan

>>65554461
>You can find loads of posts urging Canada to become hostile towards the US
The current US administration is openly hostile to Canada. Canadians don't need thirdies making redditposts, there's nothing to fall for that the zigger-and-jew-lover-in-chief didn't create himself.

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>>65554461
Cozying up to China... cozying up... all cozy, like under a big red blankie...

>>65554468
Yes, I am from Quebec oblast and I agree with this too

>>65554474
Well Quebec would have even more reason to hate Americans than Anglo Canadians since one of the major hangups with Trump's unilateral trade war was the French language.

You're an idiot.

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>>65554478
Yes comrade, we must fight America with all we have for the sake of french, it is very important

>>65554483
Da fellow Amerikanski Canada is of treating us unfairly, start trade fight immediate and disband HATO

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>>65554444
quads of truth

>>65554486
At least Trump managed to get Europe to increase military spending for a change.

>>65554491
But what does that have to do with Trump being openly pro-Russia and attacking long-standing allies?

>>65554497
Iran is not a long-standing american ally. Maybe back when the Shah was in charge but that was a while ago.

>>65554503
Would you roll out the red carpet for Trump to fuck your gaping sissy fuckhole?

>>65554307
>no actual American cares
I see a lot discussing it but not all the time

>>65554467
i mean he aint wrong>>65554506

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>>65554472
>>65554482
wait, this can't be happening!

>>65554566
wdymbt

>>65554566
This meeting was in November 2025
This is also from November 2025:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy5g4r9l4dlo

>>65554468
okay pidor, hand and gun and outlet now mkay

Why does every single Heggy thread turn into a slurry of reddit talking point vomit

>>65554590
>ermmm actually you're the cargo cultist

>>65554596
interesting response, but not what I requested

>>65554599
Why would I give into any requests from a reality denying fifth column or literal Russian?

>>65554594
Hegseth worshippers are all effeminate queers for some reason.

>>65554594
It's mostly Euros, shills and turdies who come from reddit, you can basically set your watch to what they'll say.

>>65553168
What's the plan? Small modular nuclear reactors?

>>65554594
These are made in bad faith and have coordinated posts, either programmed or conducted from another platform like Discord or Telegram.

>>65554601
hmmmmmmm

>>65554594
basically made by and for the /polint/ gremlins that have ruined this board since Putin shat the bed going on five years ago

>>65553250
yes

>>65554182
True, but people pretend to ignore all his fuckups and general incompetency for some reason

>>65552871
>natick or darpa initiatives
those are systems testing and research efforts, this is a functional COCOM for integrating and unmanned systems owned by different service units across the joint force

>your daily veiled yuro/turdie "AMERICA IS LE DOOOOOMED" thread

>>65554607
It is funny at least watching leftists have to twist themselves into knots on Reddit to both support and condemn Ukraine at the same time

>>65554594
He’s a retard. Next question.

>>65554914
The only lefties I’ve seen who don’t support Ukraine are commies

>>65554914
>It is funny at least watching leftists have to twist themselves into knots on Reddit
Who did this? Why are you on the subreddits where they do this? Are they even doing it? Normies are pretty much all pro or neutral to ukraine.

>>65552883
>power grid
>>65553269

Gingrich has been on about securing the US power grid for a long time, so that's probably why he's involved.

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>>65554914
Not as funny as /pol/ going from
>"Yeah we got Trump elected to own the leftists! White power!"
to
>"Fuck Trump, fuck colonizers and kill whitey! Please don't stop sending food."

>>65554952
That's still really dumb but wow, an actual reasonable answer in this shill-infested shithole of a thread.

>>65554943
>Who did this?
Euro subs mostly, they got real butthurt when Ukraine named a unit after the UPA and had an autistic little meltdown over it

>>65553174
>>65553174
>A company shouldn't be trying to plan and organise it's own midrange strikes 20-30km
Why not
Troop dispersal distance vs technology etc
In the future, BVR will be the standard for INFANTRY engagements
Vehicles will require over-the-horizon capability and/or laser point defence to stay relevant
we have to prepare now

>>65554957
The groyper movement functioned as some sort of containment community for those types. Once that collapsed /pol/ was doomed. Not that it wasn't doomed before but in this specific way.

>>65554610
That's been the plan long before Hegseth even knew what those were. Look up Project Pele and other similar projects. The goal was to produce a more practical alternative to daisy-chained diesel generators, but somehow it evolved into powering entire bases.

>>65554952
Good on gingrich. That really should be done ASAP

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>>65554594
Because actual redditors have infested this site for years now and they love screeching about Hegseth, RFK and other cabinet members of this admin in their insufferable redditor ways. I don't even like Hegseth, he's a clueless tool that shouldn't even be near the level of power he has but I also fucking hate when blatant outsiders come here and act aghast when their bullshit is called out. They're not here for discussions of weapons or warfare, they're here to suck each other off over political dogshit, which is why none of them can ever prove they have a gun, let alone that they're American. They do not belong here, end of.

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>>65555015
hahaha holy shit that faggy "le kegsbreath LMFAO" joke always felt like it came from that shithole and it literally did, you actually got these queers coming over here to vent about a colossal dork with their queer humor, it's so fucking sad and hilarious

>>65555015
I remember in the original drone unit disbandment thread a bunch of them were just having a conversation among themselves about LE KEGSBREATH without mentioning a single word about drones or the originally posted article. It was so inorganic that even a bunch of LLMs talking to each other would have felt more natural. It was pretty amusing though.

are you done samefagging your own talking points?

>>65555052
>am I being an annoying cunt spamming lazily disguised political agitprop in a completely asinine way that has peeved posters into calling it out?
>no, it must be one person...

>>65554395
nigger you are just describing the US military

>>65555015
The RFK hate is especially mystifying given the insane amount of work he did for environmentalism over the decades

>he replies instantly and defensively
Yep, it's him alright.

>>65555041
>the original drone unit disbandment thread
It's still up, and I'm surprised no one pointed out how in the OP the date of the article was scrubbed so it'd appear to be breaking news. There's plenty about Hegseth to criticize, but it's done in a blatantly inorganic and agenda-driven manner and that makes it gay and retarded and it needs to be mocked as such. That doesn't make me a fan of Hegseth, I'm just sick of the obviously disingenuous spamming that assumes everyone is a blind retard. It feels actually insulting.

>>65555080
>There's plenty about Hegseth to criticize
No there isn't unless you're some troon that spends all day consuming leftoid swill disguised as news. Yet to see any proper critique of him that isn't "LMAO ALCOHOL" or "LMAO FOX NEWS"

>>65555080
I meant the original posted 2 months ago, not this new one. That particular thread went completely off off topic for the first 50 posts or so. This current one is likely a zigger repost given the initial phrasing.

>>65555091
Sure there is, the man is categorically awful with optics and comes off as tryhard, and he's definitely made some questionable budget-related decisions. He also routinely goes in on culture war bullshit, though that may be what you have to do when you're a big player in this admin.

With that said, the seething hatred he has directed towards him here in these threads and reddit is nothing short of weird, and again, mirrors the consistent, zealous targeting of RFK. It doesn't feel natural, it's forced, and it doesn't belong here, and I want the people who have been repeatedly doing it to die in a car crash.

>>65555097
Oh I missed that one, I guess it makes sense a thread would've been made about that article when it was actually new. The current thread about it is definitely wild, lots of
>I am Michael Smith of Nebraska Oblast, and I think etc. etc.
levels of posting in there, but also plenty of people calling it out.

I just hate how slimy it all his.

>>65555118
RFK is purely a vaccines issue and nothing else.

>>65555080
>It's still up, and I'm surprised no one pointed out how in the OP the date of the article was scrubbed so it'd appear to be breaking news
Didn't they?

>>65555118
>Oh I missed that one
Well, good thing archives exist then. Enjoy
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/65441324/

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>>65555130
>Oh wow this is totally cornyism, Kegsbreath killed the project because someone else did it and he didn't want him to get too prominent and steal his thunder
>The article says it was an experiment that was in no way meant to be permanent and was shut down after the experimenting was done
>Where is your proofs???
>It's in the article you were talking about
What a genuinely grim and bleak exchange. I can only hope that was a bot the anon was talking to because if that was an actual person, woof.

>>65555118
I don’t really like either of them but I don’t really care per se they’re just annoying to me