Face it, Punk Culture is as dead as Sid Vicious and Ian Curtis. But would they arm themselves like the IRA or the Bloods and Crips? OT, Skins v. Colts in London.
>>65560843Tbh, they were more visually threatening to the stodgy, British conservatives than harmful, the IRA were much bigger threat to The Establishment, ask Lord Mountbatten, you can't.
>>65560843For classic Punk, Snub nose revolvers and submachine guns but like the type of submachine gun that looks like it was made of old pipe.
>>65560867For modern Cyberpunk, that 3D printed look is good.
Punk is all about that D.I.Y. esthetic.
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>>65560873Based and correct https://youtu.be/mR5NCsWYUhI
>>65560867>For classic Punk, Snub nose revolvers and submachine gunsStipulated. The black leather jacket and German MP40 would work well.
>>65560881Total agreement that music was not part of the culture, but the driver of the culture.https://youtu.be/EfK-WX2pa8c?si=YNkDA4TEjPKVs7HpI was always more The Police and Dire Straits guy than The Clash
American-style punks would carry soviet surplus or clapped out police trade ins, because they dressed like poor kids because they were poor kids. British-style punks would carry brand new gucci guns with fake holster wear and edgy messages scratched in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lxt-QXMUmd0
https://youtu.be/I3QYr4zy38U?si=U_C7jbW4pVURdddCLike so much music, American Punk was totally derivative, yet so much better than the British genré. "Yatch Rock" now trending in a nostalgic resurgence. While "good", is is only 1 tier above fucking disco. True Punk will never come back.
>i took this from me dah
>>65560843Punks are usually upper middle class children. Sid Vicous and the Sex Pistols weren’t even a real band it was a marketing gimmick for a high street fashion store. The irish republican army were initially poor country folk who started an uprising branded a terrorist network then later had their name co-opted by drug dealers and gang members in a Irish mafia esque operation that gained enough power to reach UK government Chickenshit conformist by the Dead Kennedys does a great job of actually telling you what punk is… dress up for rich kids They’ll have whatever guns the period they grew up in were considered status symbols
>>65560843When I think of a "punk" gun I think of either a pot-metal .38 or a war bringback stolen from dad's sock drawer.
>>65561285For those interested in the /fa/ history Vivenne Westwood (fashion designer) was dating a man named Malcom in the 80’s they ran a fashion store called SEX and hired the boys to be a marketing stunt the SEX PISTOLS Store closed down but today vivenne westwood clothes are shown on runways and have boutiques in Los Angeles
Punk, like all leftist bullshit, is just a bunch of faggots whining instead of wanting to take responsibility for their own lives.
>>65561328How old are you? Serious question.
>>65561285>Sid Vicous and the Sex Pistols weren’t even a real bandI mean, they _were_ a band, just a shitty, 3 chord boy band.
>>65561312>>65561285Very similar to rap, both involve an identity built around aesthetics within a materialist world and both develop their own collective unconscious and symbolic mythology. For example, there’s a fairly prominent podcaster(literally the sixth-most-subscribed podcast on patreon) Brace Belden who claims that he used to beat up Nazi punks at punk-rock shows on the East Coast during the 2010s. This is a story that many “punks” repeat and genuinely believe. It reflects the same psychological process you see in rap, a collective identity develops its own archetypes, myths and symbolic narratives, literally made up by fashion companies, record labels, media and other institutions, until those narratives become internalized and begin to function as a social reality in their own right.
>>65560843What EXACTLY do you mean by 'the IRA' I'm curious? And you think they were a youth culture fad? Fascinating. Do you mean in the 1919, the 1920s, the 1950s, the 1970s or the 1990s or the 2000?Do you mean the army of the Irish Republic (the legitimate gheirs), the defeated factioon in the civil war? During the war of Independence? The pro nazi 1940s IRA? The communist OIRA? The communist INLA? The communist IPLO? Or do you mean the CIA tolerated PIRA? Or do you mean the CIRA, RIRA, NIRA (mostly drug dealers)?Go on give it your best shot? Me and Michael Collins are waiting for your answers?
>>65561312/thread.
>>65560843psa ak, the perfect gun for poseur attentionwhores
>>65560843M1 Carbine and SKS were gateway gunsThe IRA gave us reason to into AR but they were expensive in the 90sCheap, concealable pistols or just 9mm Glock (2nd hand from a gun show)Short barrel pump actions, all 12 guageAKs for the aestheticsA smattering of milsurp bolties (1937 Brno Mauser for me, but Mosin was common)
>>65561453I don’t think OP was insinuating that the IRA was a youth fad. Going by context clues (both the Punks and Crips rose to prominence in the 1970’s and remained prominent in the cultural consciousness until at least the late 90’s) OP is probably referring to the Troubles era in general and the Provos in specific (both the Provos and the Crips we’re founded in 1969). So basically he’s asking if they’d be running around with aks and repping colors like a street gang or if they’d be using armalites and acting in clandestine cells like a terror group.
>>65561491whats a crip?i know crips as in gang related crips and bloods
>>65561453British Parliamentarian Bobby Sands was the IRA in my mind.
>>65561499Not that anon, but yeah, he’s referring to the crips. And like I said above, that was also a media-created identity and narrative.
>>65561491>to the Troubles era in general and the Provos in specificWell it's nice of you to answre for him but since you know a bit more than him and are taking a guess as it to being the CIA blessed PIRA becausde they split with the moscow commie OIRA you are still missing out that the OIRA were very active until the mid 70s (less so after mainly because the PIRA shot a lot of them). There is however only one 'IRA' which existed only in any form from 1919-2022 until it's reformation as the army of the Irish Republic (Eire). All other groups that used the name after the 1922 did so because they were working for washington,mocow, north korea, berlin etc. The IRB and IRA were both disloled by their legitimate leadership after the foundation of teh Irish State. Anyone else usding that name is a fraud and had no democratoic mandate to claim the title whatsoever..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJTvr833R-Q
>>65561491>OP is probably referring to the Troubles era in generalThank you.>>65560843
>>65561502Well there you're just a stupid cunt with little grasp of Irish history or the history of the IRA. Many such cases
>>65561502He was a provo. They were not the IRA which ceased to exist in 1922.
>>65561499Those are the Crips I was referring to, yes.>>65561512While what you said may be true, it’s all technicality. The majority of the English speaking world makes little distinction between the groups thanks to the carelessness of the media and just group them together. Pic related is “the IRA” to most people that weren’t directly affected.
>>65561312>>65561285>upper middle class hobbyYou make me realize that punk was always overlapped with what we'd call cosplay today.Before you say it, I know the truest contemporary analogue would be something like White & Azn hip-hop fans and the nu-Socialists or Palestine criers.>>65560843It's comical and almost sad just how utterly co-opted obsessed Jap anime artists were in the 80's and 90's by this. They REALLY didn't want to let go of characters looking like this.It was like the last, despersate clinging hope of an artist that someone, somewhere had held onto their wild side somehow, against the Salaryman universe surrounding them.For the normie jap along the same vein, there was a 1978 movie, Yasai no Shomei / NEVER GIVE UP which heavily featured an AR-18 as the hero's weapon."Proof of the WILD" is the name translated.Everyone's trying to prove that they've still got the animal spirit in them. Whether it's running an AR in cutoff sleeves or wrapping a cheetah print scarf around your head. Or waving the flag of some people you'll never meet or have anything real in common with.
>>65561440I'm disturbed by my blindness that there can be voices with such reach as that guy, who I never would've heard of but for an anon 4chan post.The attitude he implies in that pic does look very punchable. Makes sense he'd get into scraps and then grift with tall tales about it forever after.I dream of educating my kids about all the fakery floating around. Gotta be a way for young ppl to test & prove themselves without falling for tricks.I ask myself why most parents fail at explaining social misdirection and my guess is they're not articulate enough. Often they just aren't good leaders either.
>>65561518>so superiorPost guns faggot.
>>65561549Definately NOT IRA without cat ears on his ski mask.
>>65561328>bunch of faggots whining instead of wanting to take responsibility for their own lives.As is the want of all young people who gained independence but not yet power to decide their own lives.At least they make good music.>Nazi punks at punk-rock shows on the East Coast during the 2010sWe had those?
>>65561664>utterly co-opted obsessed Jap anime artists were in the 80's and 90's by thisLooks legit.
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>>65561750>legitFr fr.
>>65560893>The black leather jacket and German MP40 would work wellI may just diy a tribute jacket. Bc fuck The Man.
>>65561776M11/9?
>>65561502he was also a child molester that fucked his cousins when they were kids.
>>65561689>>65561440He also says he killed “fascists” in Syria. He volunteered to join the YPG and like many Western volunteers was mostly given random grunt-work. For some reason he kept referring to ISIS as “fascists.” He also maintains that the YPG disliked working with former US/UK. military personnel because of America’s war crimes +and instead preferred Western leftists like himself. He seems to genuinely believe all of this.
>>65561835>british lies and propaganda Miami Showband massacre.
you cant be punk (because you're an adult)
>>65561846no, its what happened according to the irish. sands was a piece of shit and out of his mind.
>>65561846Plenty of that going around from all the different groups that fought the cold war in Ireland for their foreign handlers in Moscow, London and Washington. You are cherrypicking.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenanne_gangAll filth. All murderers. All a curse for the people of Ireland. You just like to pick up one lump of shit and sniff irt while pointing excitedly at another and saying there it is.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEJPd80LzAYWhat's next jamie bryson of the FSB trying to start shit for his backers in moscow? Me fleg and big Ian is it?. Grow a brain.
>>65561866>sands was a piece of shit and out of his mind.So an average politician.
>>65561866THe likes of sands was a direct consequence of utter fuckups like bloody sunday and balleymoney and the diseased mental insanity of the compulsion that the dregs of the orange orger had for prancing around gerrymandering councils and housing awhile behaving like savages banging drums outside of churches with people in prayer at them, fith scum, which norn iron has never had much of a problem shitting out whether in the creggan or in portadown. So easy to make them dance for London or Moscow or Washingtons changing whims and muder each other and behave like savages, primarily to their own. Hatiung the brits or the ra won;t change the fact that you ruined your own lives for people in msocow, london and washington for people who used your own land as a playground for murder while keeping their own places safe and comfy and until norn iron cops onto that it will be the same shit forever.
>>65561870>cherrypicking>Thomas Crozier, James McDowell, and John Somerville>two serving members and one former member of the British Army's Ulster Defence Regiment (UDR)—>British ArmyYeah.
>>65561911>easy to make them dance for London or Moscow or Washingtons changing whimsJust like in Rhodesia.
>>65561914No, nothing like rhodesia, nothing at all actually. Are you simple?
>>65561912Yeah you are cherrypicking, you want a round of applause? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freddie_Scappaticcihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shankill_Butchershttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Ann_OgilbyTo me you just sound like a retard that needs to divide smelly shite into two piles and call one a delicious delicacy while pointing at the other and screaming that it is shite.