Rimfire Edition (you do own a rimfire, right?)Guide: https://files.catbox.moe/9g5sv2.pdfPastebin: https://pastebin.com/gs6mLNikPrevious: >>65566188
>>65572522>>65572514Can anyone here give me a QRD on "serious" full size .22lr target pistols?Any makes/models that are especially good? Any that are especially bad?Any particular things a buyer should be aware of? Things like reliability issues, parts breakage, spare parts availability, etc?Given proper maintenance, these things should last for like a gorillion rounds before wearing out, right? Is there any good reason to buy a brand new one instead of buying a used one?
Am I really supposed to practice dry fire at home every day with blanks? My neighbors are getting mad
>>65572522>Rimfire Edition>22 dubs getHow fortuitous!
>>65572561???
Does anyone here compete in precision pistol shooting .22s?I wanted to get into it but my gun is fairly heavy and keeping a steady dot is tough after a whileAny recommended practice techniques for this?
>>65572536All fixed-barrel target .22s will have the necessary mechanical accuracy for "serious" shooting, even the cheaper ones.Pardini SP 22 is the king of rimfires, but they have the price tag to match. You don't really NEED one unless you have Olympic aspirations.A Hammerli 215 or Smith & Wesson Model 41 can routinely be found used for $1000-$1500 if you want something suitable for Bullseye that's significantly nicer than your typical Ruger Mk Series or Browning Buckmarks
>gf stole my Glock 42 that I bought for coat pocket carryNever fall for the woman meme, bros
>>65572606You might need stronger hands (bench, row, ohp)
>>65572764Sir, stealing a gun is a felony.
>>65572561Blanks don't always cycle my guns so I put just make really light reloads, lighter than mouse farts. Sometimes I can even reuse the bullet if it doesn't deform too much. Pastebin should do this.
>>65572588The black with the red logo looks cool.
>>65572764ATFATF!!!REPORT THE FOID TO THE ATF!!!!
>>65572767I think you meant to reply to >>65572603
>>65572767>>65572836It isn't hand strength. I can close a captain of crush #1 so at least above average in that regard. My wrists are fucked from having had carpal tunnel issues
>intentionally buy a holster that wont fit a red dot, so i wont later be tempted to spend money on a red dot>now i want a red dot, but also will have to buy a new holster for it too
>>65572888>Be retarded>Spend more money as a result of being retardedTale as old as time!
>>65572888>won't fit a red dotEasy fix. You cut it so it fits the red dot. Red dot holsters don't usually protect the dot.
>>65572890yeah its leather, i could cut it myselfbut it will probably end up looking like shit
>>65572894>it will probably end up looking like shitThat's ok, and as long as you're careful it should look fine. Although I don't have any leather holsters, I have had to modify two kydex ones already to fit my needs. Just carefully cut away small portions at a time until it works and it will look fine.
>>65572888Just buy a new gun that cant even mount a red dot.
>>65572603Realistically, if you're shooting Bullseye then you shouldn't have to hold the pistol up for more than 20 seconds at a time. Even slow fire, you want to break the shot before you start getting shaky, otherwise, abort and start over after resting for 10-15 seconds.
>>65572894leather is like one of the easiest materials to work withyou should already own sandpaper and mink oil if you're an adult
>>65572603i do and have same issuesome things to consider:more comfortable stance / better shoeslighter gun (biggest difference)dont lock your elbow out straight, but keep it slightly bentput your gun down between setssit down between setsmore efficient time usage, dont aim for too longpractice, and exercise with weights. i bought some 2kg dumbbells and do side raises and hold the arm extended for a bit. also practice at home with the pistol by raising and holding it, daily if you canalso i still suck
>>65572945>lighter gun (biggest difference)I have a much easier time one handed with my lighter mki with no dot, so i feel this.>>65572921Both of you addressed this, but i am probably way too slow and holding it too long in practiceI might try an put on a newer lighter red dot or switch to irons on the mkii. Would probably make a world of difference
>>65571046If the gun Is different than pictures on gb you may have a case, but the best case scenario is probably you just returning it to the seller and getting a refund. Otherwise leave a review. If you got it for a decent deal you're fine, the pitting on there isn't that bad
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/65571916#65573010Implications of every single Nighthawk owned by anon being sent back for warranty reasons?
>>65572983also caffeine and dehydration doesnt help either
>>65572603Dumbbell front raises for reps and static front holds for time
Anyone get an OD tac?
>>65572561>sees 22lr practice models of the most popular duty 9mm pistols>fails to understand why a house load like 22lr would be in a trainer pistolDon't be a retard anon, 22lr is like 4cpr and doesn't penetrate dry wall or television screens.
>>65573290Where are you getting 22lr for 4cpr (shipped)?
>>65573297In 2019
SRO or RMR HD? For my 92
>>65573428>Fragile piece of shit or RMR but better
>>65573428i prefer the SRO but have the RMR HD on two of my 92s, SRO looks better imho as well
>>65572522>CZ75s are so cheap now I could get over the 50th Anniversary engraving on the left side>right side is absolutely covered in white markings and serial numberswhy are they doing this on everything now
>>65573684European laws require all pressure bearing parts to be serialized and controlled. Stops people from just buying parts kits and 3d printing a frame like we do in the U.S.
>>65572522Why aren't there many metal frame DA/SA .22LR pistols with a threaded barrel? I want a .22 suppressed plinker but I want something that has some weight to it and doesn't feel like an airsoft gun.
>>65572522>you do own a rimfire, right?All I own ATM, but that will soon change.>>65572764What kind of ratchets are you dealing with if they steal your guns?
>>65572894Find a local cobbler, they work with leather all the time. When I needed my leather motorcycle gloves patched up I took it to a cobbler and they trimmed, patched, and sewed it up beautifully.
>>65573747Yeah I'll just ride my horse drawn wagon down to the cobbler and after I'll have a round of fisticuffs with the highwayman on the way back.
>>65573747>cobblerhow is a delicious fruit dessert going to help me?
>>65573747Peach or apple flavor?
>>65572894>>65573747I forgot, you could also ask a horse tack/saddlery shop if they'll do it. They're usually good with leather too.
"Although the district court’s injunction applies only to plaintiffs and certain other specified persons, the Department has determined to exercise its enforcement discretion to create greater uniformity, consistent with the Attorney General’s statement today. Consequently, effective October 9, 2026, ATF will no longer require individuals to seek ATF approval under the NFA before making or transferring short-barreled rifles, short-barreled shotguns, silencers, and “any other weapon[s]” as defined in 26 U.S.C. § 5845(e). ATF will also no longer require such items to be registered in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record. These policies apply uniformly to anyone otherwise subject to these requirements, not just to the plaintiffs in the litigation.ATF will continue to administer the NFA on a voluntary basis. ATF will accept Form 1applications to make or register these firearms and devices by those making such items. ATF will also accept Form 3 or Form 4 applications to transfer or register such items. Manufacturers are allowed to report the manufacture of these items on a Form 2."https://www.atf.gov/media/30961/download big if true
New Acquisition Range Report: 1980 Colt MK IV Series 70Looks good, feels good. I didn't know that 1911s with the higher ejection port will dent the shit out of brass, but now I know. Fired 100 rounds of PMC Bronze 230gr FMJ. The second round I fired failed to chamber completely, and the same thing happened one more time on the last magazine of the day. About once or twice per magazine a spent casing would bop me in the forehead or land directly on the top of my head. The ejector, breech face, and ejection port all look to be in spec. The pistol came with a weird bronzed stainless series 80 profile extractor, so someone was trying to work on the cycling at some point. I ordered a new extractor from EGW, so I'll see if that helps with the feeding and ejecting. And if it doesn't, then no big deal. It's still 98% reliable.
on the G19 G5 now. Makes it feel heftier for certain.
>>65573773Nothing ever happensPepper your angus and bulletproof your dog!!
Ah yes, rimfire thread...
>>65573937What is this thing above the revolver?
>>65573804>heftierAny ammo issues cycling with it? I still haven't taken the red dot pill but I will soon.
Is the Springfield 10-8 Masterclass worth it over the Operator? I'm kind of iffy about buying an Operator sight unseen since I had to go to several different gun stores to find a stainless Garrison with good fitment, blending, etc. I figure with the TRP and up they have better QC so my risk of getting a rattletrap is much lower.
>>65573953Toz-35m without the grip
>>65573990I like mine but it has a decent fit, not as good as night cock
>>65573986I am unfortunately pending a range trip with it because I'm on call this week. I doubt there will be any issues but I will let you know when I get out next week - just bought 1000 rounds of PMC from my LGS so I need to use those up now.
>>65572561>dry fire>with blanks
>>65574006With the TRP they select for proper slide-to-frame fitment at the start of the assembly process so you're almost guaranteed to get a good gun. Anything below TRP and they just assemble it from a parts bin, which is why you're kind of rolling the dice if you just order a Garrison or Operator from a dropshipper. I would go to a big box store to fingerfuck an Operator, but with their prices I'd only end up saving like $400 vs just buying the 10-8 model.
>>65572795Ben recommends this
>>65572603>pic relatedUse dumbbells or gallon jugs and do sets of holds. Start with 10 second sets, and work your way up.
>>65573993Thats cool. Do you have a grip for it you have to cut to size?How much was it when you bought it?
I've run out of ammo again I hate this.
>>65574167press R to reload
>>65574176press R to buy more ammo
>>65574118I spent about 500 on it. It came with a block of wood vaguely cut out to fit on the frame. I got most of the way thru shaping one half of it before I hated the way it was turning out and haven't gotten back to trying again yet. There are a couple euro companies making drop in grips, I probably just get one of those when I feel like it
>>65574188I saw some in that form as well. It sounds tempting even though I'm not one for woodwork
>>65572522>have to spend $2100 finishing my two AR builds instead of CONSOOOMING an A01-LD this month like I want toLife is suffering bros
>>65573734>What kind of ratchets are you dealing with if they steal your guns?She wants it “for protection” even though she forgot to steal the holster and 380 hollowpoint for it. I’ll probably only get it back if I buy her one of those pink girly G42s now.
>>65574470You should throw her out a window or run her over with your carYknow, as a joke
I never would have thought that grime and fouling would make a pistol look better and am saddened to clean it off
>>65574470Dude what the fuck are you doing
>>65573990>TRP vs OperatorThe TRP is just an Operator, but better (or Loaded, but better, for the non-railed version). It's also a better value as the cost of adding the features of the TRP that are missing form the Operator (checkered front strap, slide top serrations, magwell) would cost more than just buying the TRP in the first place without the added bonus of the enhanced factory fit.The TRP is generally the better choice if you can afford it.>10-8 vs TRPThe 10-8 is essentially a Hilton Yam signature edition of the TRP with a few different features. Which one you should get is mostly just user preference. I, myself, am not a fan of bull barrels and wouldn't get the 10-8 for that reason alone.
Placed an order on a RM1C. Anyone that owns one of these or a Arex Delta care to chime in as I wait for pickup time? For optics I am thinking EPS core or carry, light TLR7X or HL-X, handle-it grips because I like them.Why wont holochink just make a EPS model with the RMR footprint already?
>>65572764Report her to the police ASAP and pray you don’t get a female prosecutor assigned, I am starting to hate women because the same shit happened to me and stupid faggot cops and dumb foid prosector is doing fuck all.
>>65572536>these things should last for like a gorillion rounds before wearing out, right?All I can tell you is both of my olympic pistols (Walther GSP and High Standard 106 Citation) were shot to oblivion for 40+ years as evidenced by impacted sludge throughout and are still a lot more accurate than me and didn't even need springs. They were both under $700 used as wellHigh Standards of all eras are known for finicky, tune-hungry magazines, most other similar pistols aren't
Apparently all the MIM in the 385 is sourced from a Texas plant. Named MIM parts are the trigger shoe, takedown lever, and slide catch. There might be more, but these are acknowledged to be MIM
>>65575014The parts being made in india are only half the problem, the other part is them being MIM. Less MIM shit.
>>65575014By indians in texas*
>>65575019I don't have a problem with MIM itself, it's used in a lot of things that are under way more stress than a firearm and they're fine. What remains to be seen is if these Texas MIM parts will be good
>>65573937
>>65574837Osight and cyelee have similar models made for rmr footprint
>>65575014mim sear and striker for sure
>>65575088Possibly. Like I said I'm not too concerned with it being MIM as much as I am concerned with quality control. I know the San Antonio plant makes OEM parts for GMC, so I don't know if that will inspire confidence or the opposite.
>>65575019>outing oneself as a nogunsYikes.
>>65575019A good MIM part > a shitty machined part. It's just a process with its own pros and cons.
>>65575188The P320 was likely failing due to MIM shit wearing down prematurely.
>>65575235The 320 sucks ass, but that would have been something easy to prove and document. Genuinely don't think it's MIM spec issues
>>65575062The old ruger standards are cool as hell. The 9rd mags are weird tho
>>65572522>rimfire
>>65572522Love my Victory...GOAL: Since it doesn't break bank to shoot it I get some range time in. RESULT: Better shooting with all my pistols. I literally have shot all afternoon for less than trip to mid range restaurant. Making shooting habits stick!
>>65575268Sonny, if you need more than 9 shots, you better work on yer aim
>>65575235From most directions of it it looks more like tolerance issues, even in spec the firing pin is might close to slipping, and the firing pin "safety" is small, and has a small engagement area. Then if a mimed part is out if size spec further it would be an issue.Its clear sig doesn't test their parts, the 365 had multiple batches ship with a too hard striker that would shatter when firing, also had some sort of trigger spring failure issue.
>>65574837I own 2 RM1Cs (i won one at Gunsite and bought the comp version since I liked it so much). I love both. Only issues I've had were FTEs in a heavy down pour of rain just last week (owned both since respective release). Triggers are a little heavy but crisp and short reset. I'm upset their new large magazines are $90 each but all USA I guess.What other questions do you have?
>>65574470Try to hook up with her again, empty a load in her. It's obvious she is a possible /k/ worshipper. Irrational and stupid gun collecting is a sign! Take her to the range, then the bed....
>>65572536This is extremely sexy, do they make them in heterosexual calibers ?
>sp5>Real Stock>Vertical ForegripThis timeline is shaping up
>>65575235That's not how MIM works you fuckin retard. MIM is typically harder than machined steel, unless the machine steel is hardened which it almost never is.
October's challenge? Finally bought a printer lol
>>65575392you're a nigger. Metal Injected Mold. Its goo that gets put into a mold, how the fuck is that ever better than billet steel?
>>65575329The only issue with the tolerance theory is that every pistol is still failing to reproduce the same failure under the same circumstances. Even if every 320 is fucked up in it's unique way, the process for making that individual gun malfunction should be able to be discovered and repeated. I don't know, I'm at the point in this controversy where I just kind of need to know what's actually happening instead of a vibe diagnosis
>>65575392>>655754121. Machined steel for guns is generally hardened, or at least as hard as necessary. 2. MIMed steel can be hardened, but it's just case hardening So a problem with MIM is if it's contacting a surface that's harder than it, or if it was hardened improperly, the few atom thick case hardening will be worn away, exposing the very soft internal steel and then the part degrades quickly.But the buffer problem with MIM (if you have bad a bad source and have bad QC) is it's metsl mixed with a binder, then the heating burns away the binder, this in top of the metal particles melting together causes shrinkage if the part, this can mostly be controlled for but small variations in the metal to binder ratio that happen inevitably can cause parts to be out of spec dimensionally, a good MIM producer will be checking this and throwing them away, and a good firearm manufacturer (like glock) will have their own in house checks for every piece that comes through. And to the p320 as someone mentioned the sear contact surfaces, the striker, and the striker safety are all MIM parts, and have concerningly small contact surfaces even if the parts are in spec. Take glock for example, their striker block isn't MIM, it's machined, and it's contact surface with the striker is about 10x that of the 320, you'd essentially have to snap half your striker off, or a 5-6mm thick piece of machined steel to get that thing to fail. If you look at the 320 it's disturbingly small amount of MIMed metal that's keeping that striker from falling if the sear disengages.
>>65575417Several independent people have gotten the sear to slip and the striker safety to fail. It is rare though, as it seems you need 2 contact surfaces to be out of spec enough to fail. Many more have been able to get the sear to slip but the safety catches the striker.And then whats more interesting are the old 320s that most seemingly would go off with a blow to the slide, but it seems not many of those still exist to be dissected.
>>65575442>but it's just case hardeningThat used to be the case 20 years ago. Sintered MIM parts, which are virtually everything you see in the wild, are through hardened.You sure typed a lot for someone who knows fuckall.
>>65575448Nobody has been able to recreate the incident that actually happened to the individual pistols. Incredibly important distinction.
>>65575448What anon is saying is that they can't do a simulation of the cop getting out of his car and the gun putting a bullet into the ground. Being able to do that would be the silver bullet against Sig, but right now they can say that the only failures people are talking about have been done via torturing or modifying the gun in a way that doesn't represent what happened when it was supposed to have gone off.
>>65575086Holosun has proven record in combat while those are rangetoy chinkshit, I would rather spend a little extra on the proper plate like a good goyim>>65575344Is the grip good or should I spend a little extra on the handle-it grips? I did handle one before buyingHows the recoil? I got the non comp modelIs it easy to carry?What optic, light and holster you use? I want an IWB holster
>>65575488Grip is fine. You might want to put a patch of something in the smooth spot at the top if you have a really high grip
>>65572522Picked up a new Mark IV recently, and just got it zeroed and cleaned. Off a rest at 25yds I could get 1.5” groups with 40gr CCI Minimags.Shooting a Glock right afterwards was painful because the trigger is much heavier, and generally mushy.
>>65575014Expanding on this, they were clear on the interview that while they would be sourcing some small parts from international companies, all parts would actually be manufactured stateside. Everything on the gun will say made in America.
>>65575410>October's challenge?AFAIAC, I completed that years in the making with all the times I aimed for the cranial nerves on a silhouette. The anon who designed this month's challenge is still appreciate however.
>>65575488standard grip is ass I use HIG grips. Recoil is fine, I shoot 124 grain so its a little snappy. 115 is fine. I use my t rex arms 226 w/x300 light (since its light based) to CC. I have a non-light holster from ANR design and its pretty nice.
>>65575488I used my free non-comped version up at Gunsite for the comp shoot with vortex defender ST. I managed to get third out of ~280 total.
>>65574398>Global Ordinance finally had the Grand Power ARAQ-S in stock>Need to finish paying off my current debt before I can spend more money GUNSOOOOMING>Christmas is looming right around the corner as well
I wanted a glock 34 as a larp gun, figuring that I already carry a glock 19 with an x300 now so I might as well take advantage of a longer barrel/slide to meet the same overall length with the light. And because muh John Wick. Regrettably I waited too long now I can't find any 34s around me. What other handgun should I consider with a 5 to 5.5" barrel length? I'd rather get a longer gun so I can enjoy a tiny bit of extra velocity and also a longer sight radius because micro red dots just dont work with my eyes
>>65575410>full colorhttps://files.catbox.moe/kn1njm.pdf>grayscalehttps://files.catbox.moe/wb9c2e.pdf>light modehttps://files.catbox.moe/bk0ocq.pdfPut it in the OP thread-baker or YOU WILL DIE.
>>65575616Glock 47 or 17L
>>65575616How much is fag taran paying hollywood to use his overprice glonk?
>>65575682There's only 4 movies in there with a TTI g34 you fucking mongoloid.
>>65575684And 3 of them are john wick movies.
>>65575684I know that's you taran butt fucker.
>>65575699Show me your precious
I hope we start seeing some more integrally suppressed .22 pistols showing up now that the NFA is bricked
>>65575727>NFA is brickedUntil the next admin comes in anyway
does somebody have that 1911 that was secretly a Metal Gear Solid 3 reference?it had the "SE" or "NS" naming after Snake Eater or Naked Snake
>>65575873Not even then, dems will probably take congress this midterm, and that's all they need to reinstate the NFA tax stamp, at any price they want. The court ruling only deemed it unconstitutional because it was no longer taxed, the court stated congress could regulate it under a tax.
>>65575957Trump would have to sign the bill retard. You idiots literally don't know how the government works at all.
>>65575392>MIM is harder than machined steelThat's not how MIM works you fuckin retard.
>>65575474Do police departments normally modify their duty weapons and torture them? These same police departments that are said to not shoot their weapons at all leading to deficiency in training?
>>65575616Glock 24
>>65575557>>65575501Hmm, the grip I thought was fine but do like handle-it grips texture.>>65575562I got it $400 brand new after tax because it was on liquidation sale, I wanted an Arex Delta and only found out these existed as the American made alternative which led me to buying it. Picked the compact as my carry iron.All this optic plate shit is stressing me out, the site sells Shield RMS/SMS footprint but idk if that also means RMSc, I was pondering a RMR footprint optic just so I wouldn’t have to buy another plate
>>65575582ARAQ barely runs. May as well get the M+M or CMMG Mutant
>>65576126No but they normally ND their guns and lie about it. Normal as wet rain.
>>65575873>>65575957you two are spiritually raped losers
>>65575900SE is "Special Edition".I tried playing MGS3 remastered, uhh, when does it get fun? It might be that I was peer pressured into doing the pacifist run with zero kills.
>>65576576No you don't get it its over unless God literally defeats all my enemies for me while I sit at home and complain.
>>65576586No no no you see I'm actually based and more redpilled by you for endorsing the import infinity illegal party instead of the save America party because they don't care about my pet issue. What? My pet issues are indistinguishable from leftists and third world blood libel?
>>65575957You better hope all the politics talk on /k/ right now get grandfathered in like your nfa items or enjoy the 3 day vacation
Best group today of 10rds @ 10ydsPicked a powder charge weight that I'll use for competition too
>>65576797Nicely done, Anon. Keep up the great work!
stupid question just for funthere is a sale for the "MAK P-LOCK GLOCK GEN5" adapter for 50€see pic related, but without a red dotsince I have a non-MOS G17.5 is that worth it for shit and giggles?yes I a aware that this won't fit in a holsteranother question, is there a proper chinese site known for gun accessories?small stuff costs just too much in europe if you add up everthing
>>65575410I forgot about that. I hope I don't suck ass I've never done dot torture.
>>65575957I'd almost like that since I keep hearing smug democrats say they like guns now and their elected officials will totally respect that.
>>65576810ty anon
>>65576860I mean non slide mounted red dots are cool since they don't move with the slide. Faster to use and all that. Idk about the quality on that one but if holds zero I'd personally get it to fuck with at the range if I already had a spare reddit laying around
>>65576860I think this thing is too much of a cope to try to get an optic on handgun. Are there slide cutting services in Europe?
>>65576879it is german made and usually went for 280€quality should be fine>>65576880yes but not worth the priceI am also not shooting competitions for the top ranksso it's really just 50€ for the option to use a red dot
>>65575377Well, them chambered for .32S&W wad-cutters too.They also make picrel in 9x19 and fawhty-fhaave AARP.
>>65576893Is it just a range toy? Even then, I personally would not be crazy on mounting an optic on a plastic rail even though that's technically the most stable part of your handgun.
>>65576579just kill when you have tobut yes it was areal Colt 1911 on some web store and i couldve sworn it was made by some intern who really like Snake Eater
>>65576897>>65576879it is a single block machined 7075 T6 aluminumquality should be good
>>65576916No, I'm asking if you're mounting it on a plastic glock rail.
>>65576920oh sorryyes the rail of the polymer framelike in pic here >>65576860
Cleaning my EDC pistol while watching television /k/ontent feels therapeutic, bros~>>65576779>3 day vacationSkill issue
Shot my first GPA match today, finished middle of the packOverall pretty happy, zero misses and every single target had two put into the headbox, I could have probably finished 30-40 total seconds quicker if I was willing to mentally accept some charlies or deltas and spent more time airgunning and drilling engagement priority but the latter will come successively with more matches.https://files.catbox.moe/k1n2dg.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/9gnsn9.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/bmu27r.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/6rozke.mp4
>>65577021Do you have a go pro on your chest?
We have Smith & Wesson night guard at home.
>>65577033it's a little insta360 go3s stuck on my hat
>>65576797What’s your load? I’m laddering up a .38 +p FBI load now, trying to find what hits POA in my wheel gun
>>65577021>Hey cool, a new pistol shooting league!>10+ target transitions per stage with an overemphasis on reloads What is the purpose of the GPA?
>>65577150I get the impression it’s supposed to be kind of like USPSA and IDPA had a child with slightly less irritating boomer rules
>>65577150>What is the purpose of the GPA?fun, instead of the anti fun IDPA and USPSA (however I've had alot of fun at USPSA)
>>65576797>$1200 competition gun with a red dot and still gets groups worse than a casual with a stock glock and a few months actually trainingLmao
>>65577162>boomer rulesSuch as?
>>65577193No cover garment like IDPA and no “your pistol must fit inside this box” crap, the divisions are just barrel length and sighting system
>>65577229Colt
>>65577210BUT WHAT ABOUT POWA FACTOR!?!?
>>65577046124gr Berrys THP, 4.0gr N320 @ 1.060". I get about 1010fps with SDs almost at single digits>>65577179Congratulations, you are better at shooting than me. I hope one day I will be as good as you
>>65577150>>10+ target transitions per stage with an overemphasis on reloadsalsotarget transitions are fun, reloads are fun and difficult adding a layer to stage planning on when do people want to reload.
>>65577235The only power factor I care about is shooting something hilariously largeI’m gonna continue to beg the match director to let me shoot my .50AE or .500SW until he says yes>>65577247Yeah honestly it was almost more fun than my usual 2-gun action match because I enjoy handgun shooting more and not having to drag a 185lb drag dummy during a stage is less taxing on my rapidly aging fat ass
>>65577317Despite being relatively the same size, the Colt optic feels larger than the ACRO. Definitely bigger feeling window (taller).
>>65577234Might put this on an acog.
>>65577317Nevermind I don’t think that slant would look good.
>>65577336You got something against slants?
>>65577338Yes it triggers my autism and prevents me from enjoying so many otherwise good products.
>>65577359I hope they find a cure for anti slant autism
>>65577359Cool it with the anit-slantitism
>>65576357ya default plate is RMR. I use DPP vortex defenders. I'm not sure about the RMSc foot prints.
>>65577372Perhaps some form of nerve agent can cure anti slant autism. I'm willing to gas them, for science of course!
>>65577400nogunz <3
>>65577404Only the finest Turkish Berettas made by Ernesto Langosto Budafucco around these parts, yes siree!!!Definitely no real guns allowed on /k/, the Ukraine War board. Da comrade, we must import 6 billion Indians!:^)
Who here carries a Glock 19? I can conceal appendix with a hoodie, but shirts are a no go. I print pretty quickly.I wanna carry my G19 but can't. I might wait for a gen6 Glock 43x MOS
>>65577468try a phlster enigma possibly, it gives you more freedom on ride height for the gunalso learn to print and not give a fuck
>>65577468Occasionally I do, get a better belt if you’re walking around with a flopper
>>65577234>>65577229>>65577317>assembled in America Honestly I stopped caring at this point>>65577393Yeah this shit is confusing, I think I will just go to my local gun shop with my RM1C and put the display model red dots they let people look at on my slide
>>65577524>Yeah this shit is confusing, I think I will just go to my local gun shop with my RM1C and put the display model red dots they let people look at on my slideno fren, it is ok. The plate system is simple. What dot do you actually want to use? I'll help ya pick the plate you need.
>>65577524>>assembled in America>Honestly I stopped caring at this pointthe future will not be kind to traitors like you
>>65577531There's not future lol
>>65577530I got a EPS carry on my Glock that got a RMR cut, thinking bout moving it since its sitting a tad high on the adapter plate but that means I would have to buy a new optic for the Glock this time one with a RMR footprint plus the Rost Martin shield plate.Seriously holochink made a EPS with a RMR cut its been like what a few years now.
>>65577480>phlster enigmaNever understood how these things work,like any holster attaches? What gives
>>65577539"Assembled in America" means nothing.Literally just re-packaging complete products form China in different boxes, or slapping some decals on the original boxes, legally counts as "assembling" them in America.That's how these blatantly Chinese products are "assembled" or "made" in the US.The star-striped banners on the boxes are just marketing BS intended to separate fools from their money.
>>65577555Any holster that uses modwing bolt holes. There’s a few copy cat options that are similar, neomag, concealment labs, etc but the Phlster is the most mature and effective IMO. Ideally a AIWB holster
>>65577430i shoot my turkshit beretta clone better than my real beretta
>>65577549Well, the martin comes with the rmr plate. So you can just use that. Buying a different footprint plate is simple with RM
>>65577531>its ASSEMBLED in America>pay extra, stupid goyI almost bought a Elcan but there are too many indians in Canada
>>65577556That shit doesn’t fly for military and government contracts the Colt Optic line is going for. Sig has a Chinese rebrand line and an assembled in the U.S. line for example (and their assembled in the U.S. wins contracts). The electronics are probably sourced from South Korea or another NATO aligned country like Sig and robotically assembled in the U.S. they put their company in Michigan to use former Trijicon and Eotech employees.
>>65577468I do sometimes. It helps to use a holster with a claw so you can press the grip into your body. I thought it was too big too until I got a better holster.I'd still like to get a smaller gun though for CC since I added a red dot and light to the 19 it's more of a house gun at this point.
>>65577569It’s 389 dollars. Fully enclosed, shake awake, good button placement, 9mm case windage and battery removal. It’s American excellence.
>>65577570>That shit doesn’t fly for military and government contracts.....The US military and government buys foreign products all the fucking time.Why the fuck to retards keep parroting the boomer meme that the US military/gov only being allowed to buy products made in the US or in allied NATO countries???It's clearly not true. All the mil/gov has to do is claim that there is no suitable US or NATO-made product that meets some arbitrary and extremely obscure requirement, and they can just pull those requirements out of their asses without having to justify them.They've been buying Aimpoints for decades and those are all made in Sweden, which wasn't a NATO country until a few years ago.
>>65577468> I might wait for a gen6 Glock 43x MOSIs the G43x not a gen 6 right now??
What’s the best way to go about buying a handgun from a different state? I can legally have whatever I want but stores in my state aren’t going to stock the Mach3d. I’m determined to not let that stop me since this is for my duty carry weapon, but I’m unfamiliar with circumventing this as I’ve never had to before.Any advice? I’m considering just flying to my buddies state where he works at a gunstore and getting a fishing license with his address. But I’m open to other alternatives. And as a side question, I’ve also got 2 or 3 coworkers that would probably want to buy them if I can bring back extras, would gun stores back in commieland have a problem with facilitating transfers between us? Private party transfers of off roster handguns is legal, but I’m worried about stores being gay about it.
>>65577584>order gun to your FFL>Tell your FFL you're ordering a gun>Go fill out the form and pick it up when they tell you it's in?
Should I buy taller iron sighs so they co-witness with my optic, or does co-witness not really matter?
>>65577584It's easy, they send it your gun store or FFL and then you pay the gun store a fee. I live in a real red state and there's no issues, most of the time on gunbroker they won[t ship to CA. but the seller will list all the states they don't fuck with
>>65577580You mean Sweden the famously NATO aligned country which has always been aligned with NATO without formally joining until very recently. In your own post you state that U.S. products have a preference and a justification (obscure requirement) is required to purchase outside the U.S.. Aimpoints were bought since literally there was no competition for red dots durable enough for military use. Now there are and for example Sig optics are being bought. They ain’t buying Holosun or any other Chinese brand.
>>65577592I did. I think you should. If the red dot goes out you won't be able to shoot for shit
>>65575636Danke
>>65577589I’m being told no one will send them to CA. I’m not familiar with ordering from out of state though so if I’m mistaken I’d be pleased to find out.>>65577594I’ve never used gunbroker, isn’t that all private transfers? Ideally I’d just get it retail.
>>65577603>send them to CA>I can legally have whatever I wantAre you sure? Also gunbroker isn't private transfers, people on gunbroker require you to ship to an FFL.
>>65577592Seeing through the optic is actually for losers. Occluding the optic is the way to go. You should be shooting both eyes open and focused on the target, the red dots is going to be there even if the optic is occluded by your irons or by a piece of tape.
>>65577555It's for women and trannies
>>65577606Yeah California gun laws functionally do not apply to me, but I can’t buy from dealers that won’t send to the state.
>>65577640Deserved.
>>65575682>taran paying hollywoodThis sent me down a rabbit hole– the range where all those celebrities have gone shooting does not have an address listed and is described online as being private land somewhere in Simi Valley. It's closed to the public and does not host competitions in spite of Butler advertising as a nationals champion though his facility wouldn't even be suitable for any and operates more like a ghetto shooting gallery where the entrance is a rusty, sliding door facing a gravel lot. There are much nicer gun clubs and indoor ranges in Los Angeles county where members or visitors don't get hit with shrapnel from steel targets so the A-listers under his tutelage must be utterly clueless or TTI is some kind of racket>>65577021Good shit!
>>65577651You went down the wrong rabbit hole you fucking retard pastebin He’s the first person to reach grandmaster using a Glock. He’s won a lot of shooting competitions and if you can watch him shoot ON VIDEO. Honestly brain yourself
>>65577651>so the A-listers under his tutelage must be utterly cluelessI can't believe it.
pastebin thinks this guy is clueless at shootinghttps://youtu.be/05iCSgXttr8
>>65577673Someone took down the video of Gina Carano shooting there and I am very mad about it.
>>65577673pastebin aka glock troon aka stupid fucking retarddoesn't think this guy can shoot https://youtu.be/39WK7pWQW6Y
just checked Ben Stoeger's houses on google earth, this nigga is a fraud, he doesn't have a shooting range at his house capable of housing national and world championships
>>65575682Whatever is left over after his monthly budget for bulls/cuck porn
>>65577566Its stressful because grok said the EPS carry wouldn’t fit but gemini and the Czech guy working at Rost Martin said yes, shoulda clarified I want the optic sitting low
Hot take, but I feel like practical shooting sports have basically turned into Sport KarateWhere once they were a way to promote the skills and best practices to win a fight they have turned almost entirely into a game where you shoot guns that you wouldn't carry in ways that you wouldn't want to in a real gun fight.
>>65577793I think this is a very cold take with high level military members participating in practical shooting sports, having competition shooters flown out and to train them how to shoot, and pretty much all high speed tactical guys using shooting techniques developed by competitive shooters. Isosceles was developed by practical shooting competitions, c clamping which would become thumb over bore was developed by practical shooting competitions. Yes, you won't be running through a stage/kill house like you do in USPSA as if it were real life. But shooting is shooting, the skills to put gun on target faster and mash the trigger faster are real. My former boss did complain about training scars from practical shooting where it's usually two shots per target in competition, he witnessed people only putting two shots into a guy before "transitioning away" from him despite him not truly neutralized yet.
>>65577793That sounds right to my ego but I've never competed so I can't really say from experience. My range started hosting some random string of letters competitions so I'm going to try maybe this month.
>>65577659I never stated that Taran Butler was a bad shooter or lying about being a national champion, only argued that his range (videoed) is too ghetto for the price and exclusivity. You didn't contend the part about guests being hit with shrapnel from the steel targets, lol! This is the hardest you and your boyfriend >>65577709 have crashed out since the height of the conflict (assuming it's not just you multi posting again).>>65577662Kek, do you have the caricature of him dropping the revolver with a burned hand after being given "the ole hot gun"?>>65577793Especially the ones that only shoot steel without analogues for a thoracic or cranial cavity >>65577673
>>65577788oh, you're a retarded nigger. I'm sorry friend.
>>65577824Yeah. I'm not the anon you were arguing with but rust doesn't mean shit to me. The best boxing gym I have ever been to was in this rusted out quonset hut.
>i-it's ghetto!>some sofas>M60 machine gun sitting on the coffee tablejust come out as gay already
>>65577824>I never stated that Taran Butler was a bad shooter or lying about being a national champion,here you state "does not host competitions in spite of Butler advertising as a nationals champion though his facility wouldn't even be suitable for any "What are you insinuating here other than anything that Taran is not who he claims to be because his range does not seem "suitable" for shooting competition? You state this "so the A-listers under his tutelage must be utterly clueless or TTI is some kind of racket" Where you imply that A-listers aren't getting their money's worth? That Taran cannot teach or his shooting location is not good. If you saw one video of the place or people shooting you'd see how stupid your statement is that they should go to indoor ranges in LA instead of Taran's sea of steel.https://youtu.be/PR9D4TsniUAyou are back pedalling. What did you mean by that post?
>>65577824>>65577832Meant yeah as in yeah I have that one.
Alright, alright. I'll buy the colt optic for my 45.6
>>65577873Thank you.
>>65577793IPSC is such a wank fest for retarded tryhards
>>65577832>best boxing gym I have ever been to was in this rusted out quonsetBut the membership there wasn't VIP exclusive, I imagine.>>65577835>some sofasToo filthy for a seat unless you dress like Taran Butler not caring about stains.>M60 machine gunBlank firing prop.>>65577853>you imply that A-listers aren't getting their money's worth?Yes, they or anyone else would get equal to / better than his training at a nicer range for less than "$5000">your statement is that they should go to indoor ranges in LAYou omitted "county" and "gun club" to misrepresent my statement.>>65577856Saved, cheers.
>>65577825Well I don’t work at a gun store I gotta buy my shit outta pocket, I think I will just mess with the glass dry fitting it at the gunshop by me before making my purchase
>>65577917it is very simple. You don't need AI for this.
>>65577909>>you imply that A-listers aren't getting their money's worth?>Yes, they or anyone else would get equal to / better than his training at a nicer range for less than "$5000">>your statement is that they should go to indoor ranges in LA>You omitted "county" and "gun club" to misrepresent my statement.5000 dollars for >rental firearms>ammunition provided>access to a exclusive range>one of the best shooters alive personally teaching you do you know what one on one training costs? Ben Stoeger has multiple houses I don't see what you're getting at by attacking Taran. Like you, he shoots glocks, infact he's the first person to reach grand master with a glock and founded an empire on being the glock guy selling parts for glocks. Like you, he's a pervert with some troubling history.
>>65577788https://opticfootprint.com/compare/shield-rms-vs-rmsc/EPS will not work with RMS.as far as I can tell, EPS/EPS Carry is 407k (it's actually it's own footprint, it has 4 forward slots for posts, but that's irrelevant it's basically 407k) which is RSMC without the rear lugs. So a true RSMC plate with 4 protruding lugs will not work with an EPS, you have to grind/file the rear off. Many people just make 407k/RSMC plates and call them RSMC where the rear lugs are missing.You'll have to do RMR to EPS which is stacking plates, the RMR optic plate and then the RMR to EPS adapter. Which I think is only for the EPS full size and uses the extra 2 forward posts I was talking about. you are not retarded
>a guy at the range said me today "it's ok Anon, I got no issue with you being gay"
>>65577935nvm I'm retarded. RMSc should fit onto RMS plates, not the other way around, so the EPS should fit onto the RMS plate.
>>65577824Why can PB not post a single vid without a tranny?
>>65577922>one on one trainingAight.>founded an empire on being the glock guy selling parts for glocksI don't believe in non-carry Glocks nor non-stock or non-OEM Glocks for carry.>Like you, he's a pervert Now that's pot calling the kettle black, PX4 anon >>65577338 >>65577372>>65577950sybau
>>65577817>>65577819>>65577824Watch enough police shootings and you can immediately tell who shoots competitions and who doesn’tIn absence of being able to do weekly reps of force on force with simunitions in a kill house, it’s basically the best test of how you’re training. No one with shitty fundamentals is going to do well at a match, regardless of what kind
>>65577936were you being gay?
I don't believe in non-carry handguns period. Why even have a handgun you can't conceal carry?
>>65577972Used to be a time you didn't have to conceal them
>>65577972Having five rounds of 700gr hard cast lead that go 1200fps was promised to me in the bible and stainless revolvers don’t scare boomers and women
I don’t believe
>>65577972I keep buying compact guns, HELP ME
>>65577972All handguns are concealable, you just aren’t trying hard enough
>>65577972You can't beat the feeling of mexican carrying a full size pistol
>>65578000Trips of truth
>>65577969Checked
>>65577651There was a really cool video of Sean Ryan (before his podcast faggoty) instructing Keanu at Tarens compound, but it looks like Taran nuked it and I can't find it anymore.
>>65577793That was what always kept me from being overly interested. I did compete in a competition recently though using gear I actually use and I did enjoy the training. Just don’t worry about rankings and other people doing “better” by doing stupid shit.
>>65578000Is there an easy way to change shells on the enigma?
>>65578053Two bolts to swap the holster, you could glue/epoxy together your spacers and wingclaw so they don’t come apart after you get it set so rebuilding the enigma is easier. I tried the Concealment labs since you just unclip the holster like a belt and I didn’t not like how free the gun is horizontally. You have to clip the “belt” and your actual clothes together. You could just wear a real belt at that point or use Hunter Constantine’s concealment belt, or mastermind concealment’s.
>>65578061Swapping holsters on a Phlster is possible but not a thing you do frequently. It takes some adjustment for each different gun. Once you have a set up the way you like it you leave it and buy a second.
I hope someone outbids me.
>>65578064>>65578061Ah shit. I have the first enigma set up for a shield X but I want to swap it for a Glock 48.
>>65578101It should take like 15-20 minutes to swap, definitely not something you do in the morning before going out
>>65578122I couldn't find just the shell in the engima website. Where can you go to just buy the shells to swap onto the rig?
>>65578127Oh. They only sold those separately for a short while when they went from V1 to V2. You have to buy an entire OS kit, honestly the two bolts that hold the belt on are a total bitch, just undo the ones holding the holster to the face plate - those are easy.
>>65578148Ah lame ok. I guess I'll just buy a new one for Glock 48
Unfortunately, my grip frame was designed for the McMillian "high thumb".>>65577969Indeed.>>65578024>Taran nuked itWay she goes but I did see the photograph of him and Keanu proving that it happened.
>>65578190Man what the fuck did I just watch
>>65578193A thread shitter's post.
>>65578190
>>65577592I got 1/3 cowitness sights from night fision and I'm happy with my purchase. My holosun blocked the stock sights on my glock. I didn't listen to the advice and got glow dots on rear sights as well. Looks cool and if the red dot ever malfunctions the gun is perfectly aimable. My only problem is I feel like aftermarket night sights are a fucking rip, seems like they should cost 20-30 dollars but they're 100
>>65572795>make really light reloadsThis does nothing for training grip consistency.>>65578202Every time I leave, the thread goes to shit and you invoke my name anyway so my presence makes no difference.>>65578254Kek
>>65578292
>>65578289My EPS has like a 1/8th witness on a mos glock with stock sights. Which is enough for me
>>65578045>I did compete in a competition recently though using gear I actually use and I did enjoy the trainingthis is the only way I enjoy doing matches matchesspecifically 2-gun matches where people show up with the weird plastic USPSA belt shit then have a firesale of mags crawling through something>>65578190the "I just got shot in the leg" skip shuffle always makes me giggle, it seems like getting shot in the extremity really doesn't hurt lmao
>>65575727I wish my first NFA buy was a pistol instead of a rifle integrally suppressed
what does NFA even stand for... black guy gay guy ass?
>>65578342Nancy's Fartin' Again
I might as well ask what your thoughts are on when comparing CZ75s, Tanfoglio Witnesses and IWI Jericho 941s. I know it is all the same gun, essentially, but which one is best. You folks have probably heard this time and again from me, but I am seriously considering a CZ75B, mostly as a range shooter. I would like to hear your thoughts on this comparison, before I spend the money.
>>65578323with all that adrenaline you probably don't feel it until later
What the actual fuck is this bullshit like rost Martin, Arex, and Canik? When did these even come about? They spawned out of thin air from the collective consciousness of fat guntubers that shill these cheap pieces of shit
>>65578353CZ > tanfoglio for the most part. Jericho purely for aesthetics.
Why does Lok Grips have the same website as HKParts?
>>65578353if you want a CZ75, get a CZ75Tanfoglios are actually good pistols, IFG is not a shit company. A tanfoglio is not a CZ thoughthe only reason to get a jericho is cowboy bebop nostalgia, and you'll be paying through the nose for a non-rail steel frame one
Gentlemen. I have officially begun having a problem.
>>65578370The vampir is kind of cool, not sure what the other dogshit is in the pic
>>65578370Lol
>>65578353>CZ75 a giant POS, CZ admits that it breaks its own takedown pins during use, and send you like 3 extra, CZ admits it breaks its FPRP during normal us4 and suggests you buy others and keep them with you, CZ won't ad.it that the hammer return spring breaks easily from normal use. But all but the most diehard CZoyboys will admit it's an issue, also with any of these buying aftermarket parts that may be more durable voids the warranty.>tongfalio A CZ75 clone, but made of worse parts>JerichoA tongfalio clone, which used to be made of better material, buy most its parts are now sourced to Slovakia and I think some to Pakistan iirc.
>>65577824>only argued that his range (videoed) is too ghetto for the price and exclusivity.The exclusivity is what you are paying for. Nothing else matters
>>65578358>Rost MartinAmerican brand that only makes a copy of Arex Delta, haven’t shot it yet but I genuinely liked the feeling more than the P365>Arex Slovenian brand that makes a P226 clone, only one original design and something that looks like a video game artist drew as a legally distinct Glock [spoiler]also my most recent purchase and now I wait for pickup time[/spoiler] German special forces uses them>c*niggerEww zutt slut turk slop
>>65578373That's the Arex zero 2 s on the bottom, and a Zastava EZ9 the the right. The Zastava is ported, and the Arex has 20 round magazines. The Vampir is really nice, I shot it last week with some friends and was really impressed with it.
I think 1911 Bushing muzzle-brakes/compensators are stupid, how's it supposed reduce recoil if the whole thing moves back with the slide, it's better to just get a threaded barrel and put a brake/Compensator on the end of it, that way all the gasses exit giving maximum recoil reduction.technically not a handgun but the PM63 is the same way, the whole compensator moves back with the slide how is it going to give anything other than the slightest miniscule intangible amount of recoil reduction?
>>65577038Kinda neat
>>65578405I'm not taking the opinions of someone who drinks soda seriously.
>>65572603protip: heavier caliber guns actually lift their own muzzles up when you fire them.
>>65578405You're right and you're wrong.The bullet leaves the muzzle well before the slide starts moving to any meaningful degree.But most compensatory are trash, you have to have high gas pressure at the ports to convert to velocity so that you can counter the upward momentum that's being generated.45s are already bad, as it's starts off low pressure and the larger bore means there's even less pressure at the muzzle, then those comps are even bigger. And have big ports generating fuckall gas velocity.
>>65575308Yes
>>65578501that's sparkling water.
>>65578594Whatever you want to call your american beer
>>65578405>unironically using MS Edge
>>65578914Who else out here edging>>65572522Primary Arms has Glock Radian Ramjet blems on sale, worth it?
>>65578405>minecraftbased autist
>>65578405>I think 1911 Bushing muzzle-brakes/compensators are stupid, how's it supposed reduce recoil if the whole thing moves back with the slide, it's better to just get a threaded barrel and put a brake/Compensator on the end of it, that way all the gasses exit giving maximum recoil reduction.>bushing comp50 dollars>threaded barrel150-200 dollars requiring to be fit to the slide and frame + 100 dollar threaded compensator
>do I buy $500 worth of ammo or do I buy another $500 polymer striker fired handgun in 9mmDecisions, decisions
>>65579203Always take the ammo. I don't own any optics ready semi autos, and every time I look at $600 for a slide cut+red dot sight or $600 for 2000 more rounds of ammo, I take the ammo.
>>65579203fuckkkkkkkk
>>65578358>>65578397I only speak on Rost martins. I won one in 2024 and bought the ported version early this year when it came out. I like them. The triggers feel good/crisp but they are heavy, 5-6 pounds, with a good reset. I've only had malfunctions (FTE) during heavy rain, both ported/non-ported seem to do well with everything else (weather/ammo). The disassembly is nice but I don't like the internals all being held in with roll pins, I'd like to be able to strip it further & easier to do deep cleans.
>>65579205>I don't own any optics ready semi autos
I don't own any kind of laser based sight, if your gun depends on a battery it's a liability.
If your gun depends on ammo, it's a liability.
If your body depends on external sources of energy, it's a liability
>>65578370Sweet
If your biosphere relays on external radiation to avoid becoming a frozen wasteland it's a liability
>>65579301Necrons rejoice!
>>65578510I can say that Autocomp powder lives up to its name with 185gr .45s.230s move too slow though.
>>65578296>o_O>>65578323>>65578354A numb leg is still difficult to run with, I imagine.>>65578390>exclusivity is what you are paying forYeah, that tracks.>>65579205>don't own any optics ready semi autosYou must be referring to pistols because optic rails for carbines and rifles were solved 30 years ago but I can related otherwise :v
If you rely on a gun, you’re a liability.
>>65579345If you have a gun, you're a liability.
>>65579345If you're a woman, you're a liability.
>>65578390Don't be too hard on brokebin the nicest place he's ever been was olive garden.
>>65578370Hell yeah anon! Are you the one that ordered the zero 2 from Global Ordinance? Do you still need another 20 round mag? I think I may still have several in original packaging I would be happy to send it to you if you wana pay me what I paid (either $20 or $25 ill check through my email) plus whatever the cheapest shipping is.
>>65579239Right now I am holding off on ordering off their site because I wanna save some shekels with free shipping, discount or maybe they send me something like a hat.>>65577921I don’t have access to a bunch of optics and stuff so I gotta spend my own shekels on it. What I intend on doing is taking the plate and or gun with me to my LGS and dry fit testing what would work on the slide.
Am I supposed to learn how to shoot good before I get a red dot? Do I even need a red dot?
>>65579458Here's the email from DK firearms, if you're interested my email is bluefnanon@proton.me I'll look through my stuff I'm like 90% sure I have at least one in packaging or if not unfired out of the packaging.
>>65579381Tread lightly
>Get an email from Recoil Gunworks that they have LE Trade .38 Special ammo for dirt cheap>click the link>it's already sold outFuck me, sorry I'm not a boomer that can sit on my PC all day
>>65579476Let's answer these in reverse order>Do I even need a red dot?No>Am I supposed to learn how to shoot good before I get a red dot?Virtually every instructor has stated that people improve faster with dots than irons because the feedback a dot gives you helps you to correct errors in presentation as well as showing your input on the gun. Once you can present the gun with the sights more or less on target and you improve your trigger control to where you don't disturb the sights when you pull the trigger, the dot makes almost no difference except in cases where irons would be difficult/impossible to see such as low/no light environments.
>>65579476>Am I supposed to learn how to shoot good before I get a red dot?Up to you, a lot of folks find dry fire training to be the fastest path to getting good and red dots make dry fire training much easier. You don't need a red dot, they just make shooting tight groups especially at distance easier. I can print some great nearly one hole groups with my guns with irons a lot of the time, or I can shoot my red dot guns and print those groups every time.Red dots are getting really good now days so you can get something way better than the average $300-500 dot in 2016 for half that price in 2026. Mounting them can be annoying but just post here and folks will help you. They helped me!
>>65577935>>65577947I was thinking maybe just I could buy a 509t or full size EPS then move the EPS carry on the RM1C because its sitting on my LARP gun. I mean I might as well use something with a bigger window since my Glock is a full size model.
>>65579476Once I shot with a red dot, irons were dead to me
>>65579518Dang, I've been running magtech ammo that farts all over my snub and leaves lead residue on my fingies because it's the cheapest I could find.
>>65579528>>65579535Thanks.>>65579769I feel like a boomer for wanting to stick with irons but I might look into throwing a red dot on my walther pdp.
>>65579797Eh, irons are fine, in my opinion.
>>65579341No shit I'm talking about optics ready pistols we're in the handgun thread, but I don't own any semi auto rifles with an accessory rail either.
>>65579834Don't take pasteboy seriously.
>>65579489>>65579458Yeah, that's me. GO said they had a hiccup contacting my FFL.so they took a few extra days to ship the gun, but I finally picked it and the EZ9 up yesterday. The Zero 2 only came with 18 round magazines, so I'd love nothing more than to buy a 20 round mag.
>>65579834>we're in the handgun threadOh, so you specifying "semi autos" means that you have optic(s) for your revolver(s). I don't have a red dot sight either but am somehow the only anon that shoots minor A–zones at 10 yards unlike >>65579856 who wont go beyond seven unless the target is 10.5x10.5 or larger.
>>65579922it took you what, 12 years to learn how to shoot a handgun?
I hear this thing is a piece of shit but I still kinda want one
>>65579341>You must be referring to pistolsWhat the fuck else would he be talking about?
>>65579518That's what happens when you go around sharing deals that you find. Someone probably posted about it on reddit too. If you find something nice keep it to yourself or get ready to lose it forever.
>>65579499Or what you'll send in future rape victims?
>>65579476For night vision you need a red dot because civilian grade pistol lams suck
>>65580327I don't think I'm going to ever get night vision but that's good to know.
>>65580335Nah man you need the night vision and the red dot and the pistol lam even though they suck. You should probably get a silencer too. Shooting pistols under night vision is super important stuff.
>>65579476Yes you need a red dot >>65579528“The dot makes no almost difference” total larp tourist statement Yes I said it. You’re a tourist in the shooting community
>>65579476If you are buying a gun thats even capable of taking a red dot youre NGMI
>>65580327I agreePistol LEM does suck
>>65580398There is nothing wrong with LEM.
>>65580335NV is a fun toy but handgun irons are still nice, tritium is a meme>>65580413>>65580398Dunno what LEM is but jews don’t want goyim to have good lasers
>>65580372>uses quotes instead of greentext>calls others tourists
>>65580398lem lam
>>65580182Technically 20 since the first time I shot was with automatic pistols in 2005 but in my defense: most of those years were spent being nogunz and preoccupied with AR-15's.>>65580220Anything "semi auto" like carbines and rifles, duh.>>65580242A female with a firearm isn't going to be victimised.
>>65580468More like a female with a firearm is an accident waiting to happen.
>>65580468>A female with a firearm isn't going to be victimised.lmfao. lololololol. They throw down their guns as soon as they think they're going to lose.
How much of the threads are PB replying to xerself?
>>65580472https://youtu.be/1vpIkPW9SYU?si=Cebw41qTiDy6B-2UI know this is a long video but it's jam packed with kino.
>>65580468why did you post this image
>>65580487What a shitshow
>>65580499He hits his head so fucking hard when the male cop tackles him. I'm pretty sure he gets knocked out.
>>65580472>>65580473Touché.>>65580488Because I can (good luck trying to stop me)
>>65580505I snorted when it cut to the narration right before he kicks the dude in the head
How do I cure my handgun while the paint is drying?
>>65580683lol
>>65580715I stripped the paint of my iron because it was fading
>>65580725Oh, then wish I had advise to offer you instead of good luck with that. I'm sure Burt will chime in eventually.
NFA on life support, pray for its speedy demise!>>65580752>>65580752>>65580752>>65580752>>65580752>>65580752
