AOW EditionGuide: https://files.catbox.moe/9g5sv2.pdfPastebin: https://pastebin.com/gs6mLNikOctober challenge target:https://files.catbox.moe/kn1njm.pdf (colour)https://files.catbox.moe/wb9c2e.pdf (greyscale)https://files.catbox.moe/bk0ocq.pdf (contrast)Previous >>65572522
That's illegal just fyi
>>65580752I hate the wait and wanna pickup my goy toy
>>65580755It's fine the angle is 89 degrees.
Am I really supposed to carry "cocked and locked"? Having my revolvers hammer cocked all the time scares me.
>>65580788*punches you in the throat*
>>65580752>AOW EditionI need a Beretta 96 dressed as a 93R
How would you rate the goat?Browning Black Label 1911 .380 Tungsten finish (kinda rare lmao)I picked her up at a gun show back in the day and she burned a hole in my head until I got her. Its 15% smaller than a 1911, and can be summer carried in short shorts and a crop top.Running custom .380 +p 90 grain 1150fps
>>65580813Wash your hands and trim your fingernails, you barbarian
Missed the rain by that much.
>>65580838Bitch ass.
>>65580813minorities post here?!
>>65580856Unfortunately
>>65580828Diesel doesn't let me stay clean
>>65580755ATF is no longer enforcing that part of the unconstitutional legislationhttps://www.atf.gov/media/30961/download>>65580768Kek.>>65580801>Beretta 96The model that introduced the taper to the slide spring cover?>dressed as a 93RThat'd be slick!>>65580838Made it to the range before the weekend storms, you have my sympathy.>>65580856Judging by the filename, the pistol belongs to someone else and he's just posting it as bait.
Why do you larp as a chinese woman in these threads?
>>65580856Im actually a pale skin 5'6" white boiBut I had two fuel tanks to do on a reefer today so I look meximelted, possibly Slavic
>>65580881I think I still have those boxers.
>>65580881>>65580888Ayyyy.
>>65580882No bait here friend, but I am here for (((you)))
>>65580893Kydex holster and the iconic walmart boxers?Legendary.
got a ghost edge connector for my glock 48 and it reduced the trigger pull from 8 pounds to 5
>>65580881>>65580894No fatties.
Anyone tried a EPS core?
>>65580901The basketweave shipped quicker for some reason so I went with that.
>>65580908Kill all ham planets, im only 150. This carnival ride has weight limit of 200.
>>65580910Im apparently ignorant, are there multiple carbon fiber weaves for Kydex??? I bought the only holster for this hard to find gun, and since then ive only bought the first kydex holster I came across for any handguns after that??? Am I missing somrthing?
>>65580916basket ones shed more microfibers that embed in your skin, likely microplastics in your blood.
>>65580884There's no role play going on here much less live action, you imbecile.>chineseShe's a Thailander>>65580894But I'm no Juwe.>>65580906>ghost edge connectorAftermarket fire control components are usually ill advised but those are actually stronger than OEM .
>>65580920Microplastics were actually just an anomaly stalker, it turns out that using neoprene and other synthetic fiber gloves introduced a serious amount of plastic particles to all test subjects. But im also a diesel mechanic, we fuck with fiberglass and sometimes to this day asbestos. Ain't no way in hell im taking crystalline fibers into any of my mucosa. Ill look it up, i just thought there was a more durable version of the holsters lmao
>>65580909Is Steyr also absorbing the Delta line? The current Zero 2 and Alpha are being rebranded as the ATd and ATc respectively, so I figure they are also getting the Delta.
>>65580929No clue but I placed a order on a RM1C which is just the Delta-M made in America, now I am pondering buying a full size EPS then moving EPS carry I have right now to the RM1C
>>65580938Did you read the manual before you used it though?
>>65580882>sympathyIt's all good, I shoot a ton so only going once in a weekend isn't a big deal. I was kinda hoping to get my guns wet.
>>65580916I'm sure there are a ton. Mine is just some shit off amazon and it's not the only one I saw.
>>65580801How many shots can I get off with this before it disintegrates?https://blastersbb.myshopify.com/products/m93r-style-foregrip-for-picatinny-rail-airgun-airsoft-softair-paintball-airsoft3d
>>65580983Dewy pistols go hard!
>>65580762based. Another RM family member
I just bought a holster for my P10C from aliexpress.How likely is it I blow my balls or femur off in the near future?
>>65580998I prefer the grip over the P365 honestly, have yet to pick it up but played with the same one at the pawn shop that convinced me to get a better deal, they charged $650 which is bananas as its a budget gunWoulda got a P10C if they were sold locally but oh well
>>65581002I'd rock it.>>65580986So like... im retarded, but I think your holster is the same quality as mine, is it name brand or just some carbon fiber no name‽Not even fucking w you, ive carried w a piece of felt that felt sturdy for over a year so i really do know.
>>65581006>no nameMine is, just some string of letters that they chose as a brand name. Works great though, I haven't felt like upgrading. I think they're all pretty much the same it's just a piece of plastic with some hardware.
>>65581014Fuck yeah.I carry my .45 Shield 2 in an ebay holster soaked in pb blaster. Shit hasn't failed me yet, this gun gets the piece of resin soaked carbon on it and thrown in my pocket/waistband/belt
>>65581003howd you get the updated grip on the ported version? I bought mine is December 2025 and it has the original grip texturing
>>65580884are you the only non chinese woman here?i need a green card uwu
>>65580762>>65580998Qrd on these guys? Never heard of them. Are all their guns totally original?
>>65581074See>>65580938They are Arex Delta clones.
Ported barrel. Are ports a meme? Should you get a threaded barrel and a compensator instead?
>>65581081They're absolutely not a meme.That being said tandem 45° ports are best.
>>65581018Carrying .45? Isn't that illegal here?
>>65581080Thanks. Moving to a free state soon and now I can
>>65581080Thanks. Moving to a free state soon, and I can start considering any handgun to carry. 45 gets shit on, I like M&P, but I should consider everything now that I can.
>>65581042Not my pic, sillybilly. I am just posting stock images until I get mine. Besides I got the standard compact because a port seems like a bad idea for a carry piece.>>65581074Its a clone of a Arex Delta which is some crossbreed between a Glock and Sig. Its a new company which only sells one gun just different sizes.
>>65581095Fuck off we're full
>>65581103This is me. If you see me say "Hi."
>>65580762>Rost MartinTaking a quick look at their website just screams niche hype-beast designer brand that will go out of business in a few years.
>>65581102>a bad idea for a carry piece.Nah theres nothing wrong with ported carry
>>65581110This is me sitting down and listening.
>>65581115>carrying something with holes for pocket lint and spare change to get intongmi
>>65580752What are some good stocks and foregrips to put on a glock?
>>65581114Its a budget gun, lol. I paid $400 after taxes during a sale.
If you had only $400 to spend on your first handgun, which one would you buy?https://aimsurplus.com/products/leo-trade-in-glock-43x-9mm-handgunI'd go with this
>>65581380>first handgun I’d spend it on ammo and train instead
>>65581387Who needs a gun? Just cup the bullet and hit the primer with a punch!
I spent 200 hours dry firing on a red practice pistol before I even started the pistol permit process for my state. If you don’t train, you’re a liability.
>>65581397>Pistol permit....you're from Europe right? I literally can walk into Walmart and walk out with my tendies and a new gun if I wanted to (with a 4473 of course)
>>65581380I wouldn't get some LEO beater just for the name recognition, that's for sure. I'd probably get something that offers a lot of included stuff, like Caniks that offer a sketchy but usable holster, several mags, magloader, cleaning tools, etc. Even if I specifically wanted a Glock style gun, I'd just get the RXM
>>65581398Well you better be in your state if you want that gun to be a handgun
>>65581176He's probably getting it confused with Aston.
>>65581380Sure, not a bad choice with those 15 round mags.
>>65581424>LEO beaterHandguns are extremely durable and cops don't shoot. I hope you're that euro from above because buying a gun for the accessories it comes with is retarded. Unless it's an optic and you're getting the coa for cheap or something. A fucking mag loader though? You don't even need one of those. Yeah I'm taking a glock over a canik with a mag loader and wifi capable coffee mug.
>>65580768
>>65581380i have never gotten a bad deal from aimsurplus, a lot of their LEO trade-ins show up looking almost NIB
>>65581515If I have 400 bucks to my name, I'm getting the package deal that gives me the most stuff and lets me start carrying right away. A glock brand glock with 1 10 round mag doesn't compare favorably to a Canik that gives you literally everything you need but the bullets
>>65581542what canik are you getting with a holster, cleaning kit, mag loader, and multiple mags for $400?
>>65581542Spend that 400 on a haircut and a nice shirt, then get a job son
>>65581550MC9 goes for that pretty regularly
>>65581542>A glock brand glock with 1 10 round magFags who live in fag states should learn their place
>>65581554lol that's not the point. The question was if he had $400 only to buy a gun. My answer was to get the most value out of that $400, because Caniks are pretty dang good guns and they give you a lot out of the box.
>>65581571>>65581542Show me this mythical dirt cheap Canik combo with a holster, mags, fries and a drink thats better than a $350 Glock 43x
>>65581542I already know you're retarded you don't have to tell me twice. Only retards fall for gimmick shit that they sprinkle in to attract the gullible. I bet it's some shitty owb holster too so he won't even be able to carry it concealed.
>>65581575https://grabagun.com/canik-mete-mc9-9mm-3-18-barrel-10-rounds-or.html
>>65581576Goddamn you're fuckin defensive about your trade-in glock. I don't even own a Canik, but if I was broke, I would try to get as much actual value as I could out of the purchase.
>>65581542>Canik that gives you literally everythingI bought a lower receiver that came with trigger, grip, safety selector, and stock. I've swapped out just about all of it. Sometimes getting everything is a worse value than not getting everything.
>>65581590They're not the best, but they do work. The question is if you only have 400 bucks, right? You might not have the money to kit yourself out and get ammo. That's who budget firearms are directed at.
>>65581580>$340 Canik with a goodie bag vs $350 Glock 43xYeah, I'm taking the Glawk anytime.
>>65581602You get horse cum free I reckon
>>65581542Just get a Hi-Point and a some spare magazines for it. When you come to have more money, then get something good. No point in spending 100% of your savings, because, even though Glock and Canik are good, if something breaks, will they honor the warranty and, if not, can you afford to fix it. No good having a $400 paperweight.Honestly, you would be better off getting a hunting loicense and an old Mossberg, Remshit, or Savage bolt action rifle and start killing squirrels, rabbits and rats for food after work. A small shotgun is also good for this too and might open you up to pigeons. That is what my poorfag ass did back then. If you live innacity and cannot do this, my condolences.
>>65581602The MC9 is solid. Good gun
>>65581609I've never bought Turkshit and I never will and I would never recommend someone's first gun is a Canik. Canik used to be dirt cheap but their costs have gone up overtime and if they're comparable to a Glock, why bother settling?
just bought a flex air holster for my shadow 2
>>65581599>kit yourself outthe crap that it ships with is not kitting yourself outliterally the first thing that I do when I get a gun is throw away the pile of shit that comes in the boxi looked up the holster and it's plastic crap, and the mag loader, and bore brush are the same disposable shit that comes with any gun>>65581609there is a ton to be said about parts commonality and aftermarketi don't buy turkshit but on a casual search, Canik will only send you MC9 parts under warranty and you have to email them which is an immediate "no" from me if I'm going to be carrying the gunContrasted with the glock, you can buy a full set of replacement parts for pretty cheap and the gun will basically work forever without relying on a manufacturer
>>65581599>you only have 400 bucks, right?The poorfag can not even conceive of having more money later. This is all the money they are ever going to have.
>>65581625Gamer moment
>>65581625>flex airLooking for more trigger holster names
Why buy a shitty mediocre gun $200 - $300 dollars like a Canik or PSA Dagger or G2C when you could get a Glock or APX or something for like $350 - 400?
>>65581666poorbrainthe same reason someone would buy a chevy cobalt over something like a toyota or honda
>>65581669"The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money. Take boots, for example. ... A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. ... But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while a poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.This was the Captain Samuel Vimes 'Boots' theory of socio-economic unfairness."
>>65581666canik or a psa dagger is fine for a beater gun or a range toy if you already have something nore reliable at home. Definitely should not be your go to purchase if you're a first time buyer looking for an all in one carry and home protection solution. I've got 3 daggers and two of them have been quite reliable, but i still wouldn't trust my life to them unless i had no other options
>>65581654If you were going to have more money later, you could save up to get a new gun. It's a question where the only answer allowed "What I already bought"
>>65581682That's not true anymore, hell, it wasn't the whole truth back then. People who could afford nice things could also afford regular maintenance, usually from professionals. You could take cheap boots and also massively extend their life with quality maintenance.
>>65581666APX go for cheaper than that and also there is no reason to get any of those retarded meme pistols when the RXM exists and can take advantage of a massive gen 3 Glock aftermarket, has good improvements over a standard Glock, and takes Glock mags which is the standard pistol magazine. Retards constantly justify buying new pistols that take proprietary mags and it's such a waste of time and resources it's unreal, but retards keep doing it
>>65581380Either an lcp max, 500 rds, a holster, and some snacksor a s&w 3rd gen, holster, and maybe ammo if I have money left.
>Canik is bad nowYou fucks are the biggest naysayers, I swear to god. >>65581639What the hell are you talking about, it took me a single google search to find replacement parts you can just buy directly.
>>65581624I have a turkshit L9A1 clone and its great. I would recommend spending the $15 or whatever and changing the extractor and recoil springs though, the Turks seem to be awful at springing their guns, same with the cheap GI 1911. Swapping the springs for a 25 dollar set of wilson combat springs made it a very nice shooter.
>>65581757Turk should never be your first choice.
>>65581723Why do you people keep bringing up cobblers every thread.
>>65581770I don't give a fuck about your shortsightedness nigger. If it's cool, I'll check it out. But more importantly, Canik didn't make a name for itself being cheap, because all Turk imports are cheap. It caught on because it was cheap AND good, you only gotta look at basically every review
>>65581774I like them. Especially the blueberry kind.
>faggots too broke to buy a glock new seething at people suggesting alternatives Why is it always Glock? Be less sensitive
>>65581757I never said the gun is bad. If I can choose between it and a glock I’m taking the glock 100% of the time though. None of the trinkets would sway my decision, I want the gun not the toys it comes with.
Getting my commander cut for an optics and I'm having analysis paralysis over getting it cut for ACRO or RMSC. I don't know for sure what optic I want. I know if I choose rmsc but change my mind I can cope with an acro adapter plate, but I don't think the opposite is a thing (acro to rmsc). It's my main carry piece so this feels like a big commitment.
>>65581787I'd take the Canik because i think the P99 is way more fun to shoot than any Glock on the planet and Caniks are P99s. Any trinkets are just icing on the cake
>>65581793Acro seems like it'd be fugly on a 1911, particularly a commander. Youre carrying a 1911 so looks matter.
>>65581793ACROs are not small dots. They're rugged and reliable, but if you're going to be carrying IWB then you may notice the extra bulk over smaller, carry oriented optics. But what do I know, I'm an irons faggot
>>65581811>delaminates and hogs your peripheral vision with bezels in your path
>>65581793RMR HD looks hella cool on 1911s
>>65581776Canik employee earning his keep today.
Did anyone shoot the 50 rounds in 120 seconds yet?
i got a cheap holster from Turkey for my mk iv ruger, and its a piece of shit
>>65581827The RMR HD looks cool on a lot of guns. It's a very aesthetically designed red dot shell. I can't comment on the rest because I don't own one, but I can say it looks better than all my dots.
>>65581793I can vouch for the EPS carry as a CCW optic, I put one on my G17 and it still works but thats because the carry model was on sale. Right now I am considering getting a full size EPS putting it on my G17 then putting carry on the RM1C.
A friend once told me over the phone that his TP9 had a magazine problem or some issue to do with cycling but I have no experience with Canik pistols myself.
>>65581876The B&T TP9 has finicky mags and is somehow less reliable than a Tec-9The CANIK TP9 works
>>65581810I do agree that looks matter but I like the contrast between pretty and utilitarian.>>65581811Yeah the mounting system and optic being so robust is so tempting.>>65581827Urgh why are there so many cool choices>>65581850My only concern with the k footprint is if I do get an adapter plate for something else there aren't as many recoil lugs to help the plate and screws.
unpopular opinion:iron sights are fine, and red dots dont make you shoot any better
>>65581888I don’t think you should go with a acro for carry, sure its a good dot but its a chunky one. There are plenty compact enclosed optics ready for CCW with the tradeoff being a good number are made by chinks.
>>65581929That's not as unpopular as you think
>>65581793The ACRO is hot dogshit. Get an EPS carry.
>>65581929>>65581936Maybe up close.Red dots help me a lot at longer range, like 25 yards and out. Right now nothing comes close to my RxM with a holosun at distance for me.But I'm trying to correct that with irons by taking my slow fire pistol shooting much more seriously.
>>65581885Undoubtably, I should also mention that I never saw his TP9 and he might have been inventing excuses for not shooting.>>65581929Unless you have a fiber optic, your sight picture is going to be worse in every way. Good luck speed shooting accurately when you have silhouette bars obstructing your target focus!
>>65581929I like red dots because it looks cool
>>65581931Ok I think you guys convinced me to go rmsc thanks. However if I get surprise attacked by a guy with a hammer that smashes my optic so his friend at 30 yards can pick me off, and I die because my optic broke, that's on you guys.
>>65581982then carry a extra gun in an ankle holsterlike a small 5 shot .38 revolver
>>65581982>his friend at 30 yardsYou're most likely long dead in this scenario no matter what you chose to conceal carry
Recent .38 special 148 grain wadcutter testing results:>DoubleTapJesus FUCK do not buy this. So fucking dirty. Looks like shooting a fucking musket. Felt noticeable resistance inserting one into a cynlinder after only 30 rounds of this, so stopped. Did not get through entire box, will never shoot this again except if a zombie apocalypse occurs. Said 30 rounds lead fouled the living shit out of my barrel, too.>MagtechUnreliable and possibly dangerous. Primers are too hard. Multiple rounds per box didn't fire the first time, but fired the second time. This is possibly dangerous because a round that doesn't go off on first firing pin strike may actually go off a second or two after the firing pin strike. If you are rapid firing and don't have the necessary reaction time to stop shooting and keep the gun pointed down range for at least 10 seconds like you're supposed to when a round doesn't go off, the round may go off while it's in a side chamber.>Precision One copper-plated wadcuttersFlawless. Reliable and not dirty. These are the ones I wanted to be reliable the most and I'm happy about these, as these, being copper-plated, can penetrate through things like winter clothing or windshields better than non-plated lead wadcutters. I recommend these.
>>65581929Optics are entirely unnecessary on pistols for virtually all self-defense scenarios since virtually all self-defense scenarios are at under 10 yards.
>>65582057Guns are entirely unnecessary as virtually all self-defense scenarios result in a decrease in humanity's carbon footprint and therefore better for the earth in a hundred thousand years.check yourself, bigot
>>65581964Unless they’re on a Beretta then they look like shit
>>65581793I recommend getting a plate system if you aren’t married to an optic. The Nighthawk IOS plate system is really good, super low, can swap plates without removing the optic from the plate and it takes 30 seconds. You could show up to a match and shoot optic and iron divisions with the same gun, if they allowed double registrations.Heavily suggest the MRS-1 for an acro mount optic. Haven’t shot mine but 389 dollars + features better than the Acro in every way.
>>65582085The RMSC plate for the IOS system. The front iron height for IOS is the same as an iron sight gun.
>>65582057>since virtually all self-defense scenarios are at under 10 yards.this opinion is always expressed by someone who has seen some random everytown dataset used to justify <7rd magazines and takes this poorly-collected and incomplete data and extrapolates it to justify the fact that they don't want to spend $200 extra on an opticthe in-n-out defender literally just made a video where he says "haha maybe it's time I stopped doing stupid shit and assuming everything happens under 7 yards and actually carry something realistic because I couldn't hit shit with my irons at the distances I needed to"
>>65582087Forward cantilever optics however cannot have a front iron, little irons that sit in the SRO and RMR HD pocket do work if you need BUIS.
>Brand new LCR trigger is binding/getting caught in rearward position>rounds also fail to fully extract from cylinder>send it to Ruger and mention both issues>they only fix the trigger by reworking the pawl>also realize that it has issues with bullet creep on the ammo I bulk purchased (Magtech 130gr .38)I guess I just have to live with the fact it’s never going to be a gun I can trust. Shame because it’s also not as comfortably to shoot as larger revolvers. I really prefer revolvers for carry personally, so it’s a shame I can’t find a reliable one.
>>65582057That’s not true and I’m not carrying for self defense, I’m carrying for a full on counter offensive. Yes read this back to me in court. Optics are faster than irons and yes you still need to aim within 7 yards
>>65582097Crazy that this never happens irl.
>>65582097>two charlies, a delta, and a line break alfaSeems to me that rather than being faster the dot is encouraging you to rush your shots
>>65582120it's AC, AC, AA, watch it again
>>65582089I'm going to be That Guy in the thread, but I've had to pull my gun three times in my life and each time he was within 7 yards and also I didn't need a lightning fast draw time to level it on him. There was a lot of shouting and deescalation and not so much rapid shots from concealment.
>>65582120CA, AC, AA
/hg/ qual, September 2025The optic-equipped guns roundly outperform the iron sight ones.
>>65582142/hg/ qual, January 2026The optic-equipped guns roundly outperform the iron sight ones.
>>65582142>>65582144Nobody cares, dude. You're larping for life and when you have to actually shoot a nigger you'll limpwrist
>>65582131I really don't get this reasoningbeing able to slowly pull a gun out, yell at a person, and put 2-3 rounds slowly into the A-zone of an IPSC at 7 yards is like the bare minimum that a non-physically disabled person under 70 should be able to do without training, is that the level of capability we're aspiring to?there are a shitton of examples of both police and non-police interactions where a >20yd shot did or would have ended the threat.
>>65582144/hg/ qual, July 2026The optic-equipped guns roundly outperform the iron sight ones.
>>65582149Reasoning? That was my experience. Honestly, if I had to do it again, I'd practice more on identifying actual threats in the environment and learning how to not expose myself when out by myself. Then I wouldn't have even had to draw.
>>65582150Steel Challenge GM qualification timesCarry Optics faster than Production, Open faster than Limited, Rimfire Pistol Open faster than Rimfire Pistol Irons, Rimfire Rifle Open faster than Rimfire Rifle Irons, Optical Sight Revolver faster than Iron Sight RevolverEven at the very highest level, where guys are point shooting in strings of 2-3 seconds, optics are still faster than irons
>>65582124>>65582133You're blind as fuck
>>65582158>>65582150>>65582144>>65582142You really want to justify that purchase, don't you?
>>65582167>no argumentOkay, I accept your concession. Maybe next time you'll work up the courage to shoot one of the /hg/ qualifiers!
>>65582162yeah you're right, that was a delta on the first one, i got confused>>65582156yeah the point that I'm making is that the fact that some threats are avoidable by situational awareness alone does not release you from the reality that being able to more effectively make accurate long range hits with a pistol makes you better at defending yourself>>65582167let's see paul allen's groups
>>65582171Yeah, whatever. You probably aren't even one the guys shooting. Like that faggot trying to post laser beam anon's pics in another thread about a totally different gun
>>65582150How often are these? Looks fun
>>65582175The point you're making is stupid as shit. Practice more, sure, everyone should practice more. But most people are shooting recreationally and to understand basics of self defense and that's fucking ok. People aren't going to war.
>irons vs optics EP 763
>>65582097>carrying for a full on counter offensiveYou went down the wrong historical doctrine you fucking retard PX4 simpSOCOM tried to revive the Offensive Handgun concept in the early 90's only to learn why it died in the first place: profound inferiority to carbines. Carrying pistols instead of PDW's or midget AR-15's is a compromise we make because of practicality or legislative JuweryHonestly brain yourself
>>65582176>You probably aren't even one the guys shooting. It's not even about the guys shooting, per se. The equipment is clearly doing a lot of the heavy lifting. Look at Burt's scores. He goes from a 295 shooting the Walther Q5 with an optic to a 280 shooting the iron-sighted 226. Px4 anon goes from 283 shooting the Px4 compact with an optic to a 247 with the Px4 without an optic. That's not to say those guys are bad shooters. On the contrary, they're quite good (especially for these threads), but the gear helps them perform at their best level.
>>65582183At this point the opticsfags are worse. You can't say anything less than fully positive or they have a chimpout
>>65581795That’s a valid reason though. If you just like it then obviously get that.
>>65581380CZ P-10Cit's like a glock but cheaper
>>65582195I shoot irons all the time, you don't need an optic to be a good shooterwhat I'm specifically taking umbrage with is this retarded idea that as long as you can hit things within 7 yards, you're fully covered for every concievable self-defense encounter, which is just as stupid of an opinion as "don't carry with a round in the chamber, you'll always have time to rack it">>65582181>But most people are shooting recreationally and to understand basics of self defense and that's fucking ok.nowhere did I say that's not okI'm talking about people going to the range twice a year to poke holes in paper at 7 yards then saying that optics are stupid, your opinion on what qualifies for an acceptable level of skill is essentially irrelevant. that would be like me, a fairweather bogey golfer, saying that you don't need fairway woods or a 60 degree wedge because you can just use one more stroke with your long irons.
>>65581929idk I've never used a pistol with an optic but after trying this month's challenge and seeing my front sight completely cover the little dots I'm open to more precision. I'm not going to debate about self defense or anything but just in general I think I could achieve way more precision with a dot. At least that's what I'm hoping for.
>>65582057I don't just stop at whatever is "good enough."
>>65582222Retards just want to argue. Can you hit a deer with a bolty and irons at a 100 yards? Yeah. Will a scope make it easier? Yeah. On the flip side, having a red dot on a pistol does open up to battery failure if your irons can't see through it. However, the benefits of the optic outweigh the negatives.
>>65582097>I’m carrying for a full on counter offensive. Yes read this back to me in court.Based. I just want to make him shit himself first.
>>65582142>>65582144Wish I was around for these two. Fuck these damn dots.
>>65582220NTA, but my issue with most opticsfags is that a lot of them insist that optics are necessary when they are the very same people who punch holes in paper at 7 yards and think that they're covered.For the vast majority of people I know and people I've seen at the range with pistol optics, it's a crutch that lets them be barely passable.
>>65582220You're in the handgun general of /k/. Most people here go at least once a month. You are venting against people who arent here
>>65582226I'm not super worried about batteries because they last so long and the tray is on the outside. I have a little notebook that I use to keep track of battery install dates and stuff like round counts, cleaning, etc.
>>65582261The only problem is that shit happens. And when shit happens you're likely going to be caught with your pants down with an optic. But again, that's just a downside unless you have suppressor height irons.
Honestly I do not see the point of debate, shoot what you are most comfortable with. I have shot with different sights and optics, but I find myself most comfortable with irons on handguns, but prefer a scope on rifles. Your results may vary.What I will say is that a good shooter should know how to work with all of these, even if he has a preference to one or the other. Practice enforces habits, and so long as you have good habits, you will become a better shooter, regardless of your equipment. There are videos out there of people hitting targets at 100 yards with a NAA Mini Revolver with only the provide sights. I am not saying you have to be that good, but this helps illustrate my point. It does not matter what you are shooting, but rather how you are shooting it.In other news, I couldn't shoot today, my father fell on Friday and he saw the doctor today, he might have busted some ribs, so that is it until next weekend. Shame, since I had four days, but two were taken up by an event I planned on attending and the range is closed tomorrow, was hoping to put another 200 rounds through the 1911-22.
>>65582276>unless you have suppressor height irons.Supposedly the sights I have will cowitness but I don't have an optic yet. If it's a problem then I'll get taller ones.
>>65582283>my father fell on Friday and he saw the doctor today, he might have busted some ribsthat sucks anon, at least ribs tend to heal quickly even though they hurt like shit until they do
>>65582304>>65582283I broke my rib last season playing rugby, it sucked for like two months. The good news is that recovery is just chill until it heals.
>>65582187I’m have 3 .45 ACP 2011s as my Offensive handgun project, well the ultimate conceal carry battle pistol project, UCCBPP 11+1 flush fit with a 16 round spare
>>655821206 rounds from concealment draw in 2 seconds. 5 yards or so.
>>65582304>>65582309Thanks bros. Hoping he heals up in time for my birthday in about a week. Last time I prayed for it, it was granted (that was when he had a stroke maybe 3 years ago at this point). Was hoping he would be able to join me for lunch, I will be going to a buffet then and that day they have fresh carved ham or fried catfish, fried sweet potatoes or potatoes au gratin and either apple or key lime pie among other things.Speaking of birthdays, his birthday is December, he will be 81. Not sure what to get him, he just bought his 1911-22, so I am not sure if another gun is on the menu (would likely be a Model 36 or Model 60 J-frame), but I am open to what you folks have to say.Pardon my tangent.
If nobody posts this month challenge until Saturday, I'll try it at 7 yards and ignore time limit.
>>65582187>picrelI like the Mark 23 but it's just too expensive for what it is. I've been using the adjustable curved metal trigger from grayberg on my USP 45 and feel like I have, essentially, a smaller but refined version of a Mark 23. Maybe it's cope, maybe I'm onto something. What I know for sure is that the straight metal triggers (grayberg or otherwise) are silly or, at the very least, designed for people who shoot their DA/SA pistol exclusively in SA
>>65582276That's why optics with solar failsafes are so awesome (or I guess fiber optic like the dual illuminated rmr)
>>65582433>solar failsafeSolar failsafes are only good if they charge the battery which I think none of them do.
>>65581929I do like having an optic when available, but I won't go out of way for one. I like carrying a CZ 75 Compact, and I'd have to get the slide milled if I want an optic, which I'd rather not do. If a handgun isn't optics ready from the factory, it won't get an optic.
>>65582391I was doing it at 5 and the dot on my front sight was way bigger than the dots on the target. It was raining so the target fell off after 15 rounds. >>65582442One of these days I'm buying a second one and getting that slide milled. Not this day.
>>65581125>>carrying something with holes for pocket lint and spare change to get intoSo you're a retarded nigger.
>>65582158>optics are still faster than irons That's what happens when you reduce the alignment process by 50%. Simple math.
>>65582162You've got to push yourself in training to get better, and that means flyers. If you're not getting flyers during training, you're not pushing yourself hard enough to improve.
>new glock Flux chassis >it’s a wrap around instead of real chassis >9mm full size grips only Glockfags just keep on losing. Luddites. Mogged by strike industries somehow
>>65580912I’m 6ft 190 and my BMI says I should be a 160lb twink to be healthy. That’s victim weight tho
>>65581176Ayo this nigga living in Tacoma Washington
If you’re from Tacoma you’re a liability
To be fair, you need a gun if you're gonna live in Tacompton
>>6558138040 bucks and the rest on ammo
>>65582525The h in the thread is for handgun, not handgrenade.
>>65582533Lel
>>65582533Oh but glocks are still okay?
>>65582525Do those feed and eject as poorly as their pocket guns?
>>65582566I have no clue. I've never fired one of these. I've fired similar ring of fire shit in .25 and 9x19 and they all feel meh to shoot but I haven't shot more than 2 mags out of any of them to test reliability.
>>65582576I never got more than 3 shots without a jam in the 22lr lorcin
>>65582594I'm not surprised lol
I can get the cmmg zeroed 22lr for about $180 dollars, is that worth it over a sparrow for $350?
Anons with px4 compacts, what upgrades do you have in yours? Are you running the original compact? cc1? cc2? or some mishmash of ltt upgrades?
>>65582507One of us.
Got my slide back from Langdon today
>>65582638Are you the guy with the armalite with the tube handguard?
>>65582643Yes
>>65582346>ultimate conceal carry battle pistol >gets filtered by common barriersThe basis should have been 10x25>>65582419>USP 45If I load that with .45 Super, will it die?
>>65582638Looking good.
>>65582645I appreciate what you're doing.
>>65582638How's the barrel milling?
>>65582653it seems nice beretta had blem 92xp barrels for 100 bucks so figured i would get one ported and throw the original one back in if i want to shoot uspsa
>>65582638Enjoy when that porting blows your front sight off
What’s the most compact that’s>9mm >optics ready>not sigSo not really happy with my FN 509c or Glock 26. They just aren’t compact enough for me to CC without being extremely uncomfortable the entire time.
>>65582659Hk cc9
>>65582647>If I load that with .45 Super, will it die?It would be extremely painful
>>65582496Unfortunately
>>65582659RM1C
>>65580768holy shit man
Finally out-ran the mag spring with picrel. Decided to magdunp as fast as possible with the 6" barrelin it and it had a misfeed where the slide didn't catch enough of the round and it ended up misorientated in the mag.First jam I ever had with this handgun.
>>65582647>If I load that with .45 Super, will it die?No. Handles my reloads which are on par if not hotter than off the shelf .45 Super.
>>65582674based, what's your reloading setup?
Went to the range last monday and there was a cute black spinner who was about 5'2 90 pounds, 23 years old tops. She was like, "excuse me sir can you help me" and I showed her how to put the rounds in the magazine. She was using .45, and I was using 9mm. I saw her target and she was shooting at 21 feet like me. Her grouping was much better than mine.
>>65582683RCBS single stage press.
>>65582692What scale is that? Do you like it? How about the powder measure? I hate my current ones so Goddamned much.
Its pretty good.
>>65582689She was trying to rob you.
>>65582689Who the fuck says spinner? Are you 70 years old or watch porn hub all day? Never heard anyone ever use that word
>>65582703I thought it was autocorrect.
>>65582659CSX-E>>65582679>off the shelf .45 Super.Where the fuck do you shop at, Jim's Big Bore Emporium?
>>65582689Spinner? Did she bring a loom?
>>65580752I tried this with my .22I only had 2 magazines so i would pause the stopwatch when my second mag ran out, reload, then place the mags back on the table and start the stopwatch again.50 rounds came up to exactly 2 minutes, notably on my second reload i noticed i had like ten seconds left so i kinda just mag dumped the last 10 rounds.
>>65582689?? Do you not train.
>>65582698>scaleThe cheap Hornaday one.>powder measureIt's fine enough. Some powder will measure poorly no matter what powder thrower you use.
>>65582692Reloader bro...>>65582751>The cheap Hornaday one.cheap? overpriced, but not as criminally overpriced as the Frankfurt arsenal one, or the the OTHER Hornady scale...all rebranded cheap chinese scales.
>>65582664Based knower.>>65582679Neat!>>65582746Way she goes, anon.
>>65582749Not him but I’m literally a consoomer and collector haven’t shot in years
Should I buy a duplicate of my carry gun? I've been considering it.
>>65582758Not training ages you; look at every fudd you know>>65582746Well done, Anon! Keep up the good work
>>65582758>collector cope
>>65582762>>65582765If you’ve shot one handgun you’ve shot them all desu. Boring shit. But they are still collectible
>>65582751>Some powder will measure poorly no matter what powder thrower you use.I wonder if that's it? I use unique because that's what they had at the store when I went in to buy components and I never tried anything else. >The cheap Hornaday one.Thanks I'll give it a shot if switching powders doesn't fix things.
>>65582756>overpricedIt was $40 years ago.
>>65582757I'm guessing there is a reason they ignored the window, door, and two holes in the wall?
>>65582783Because they're LARPerators
>tfw the rcr exists
>>65582802Shit was such a flop with a weird mounting system. Acro mogs
>>65582768I know that I am feeding a troll, but I might as well take the bait and I would beg to differ. Even fairly comparable guns can be slightly different. For example, when growing up and shooting a lot of mouse guns, a Colt 1908 and a Bauer automatic (a Baby Browning clone) had some noticeable differences in things like recoil, trigger pull, the optimal grip positioning, aiming, etc. even when firing the same .25ACP ammo, the Bauer had slightly more recoil than the Colt. Now I have guns of my own, but not too many, same with my father, but suffice to say, every gun is different. Calibers, barrel length, weight of the gun, weight of the ammo, etc. are all key factors. Add into this the fact that "guns are made to be shot", and yes, even the Lorcin that >>65582525 has, that you really have no excuse to not go out there and shoot what you have, because it is better to be carrying and shooting a well worn gun that you are familiar with than a bright, shiny, new gun, that you have never shot before.
>>65582812That’s like saying the chocolate nilla wafers taste different than the original. Shooting is just kinda boring once you do it couple times
>>65580856Yes. Believe it or not the constitution applies to all Citizens, including free speech on this board. Though I will agree, clean your nails man.
>>65580752when the fuck are USP compacts coming back in stock
>>65582827>HK45c… but worse Hopefully never
>>65582809Steiner MPS, Colt optic, Primary Arms HTX-1, and even Aimpoint with their COA mog the ACK-RO
>>65582834COA is garbage and HTX1 is like $900. Rest are literally who
>>65582659>>65582218
>>65582837>Delaminates in your direction>Gets crooked after a few dozen roundsFN Pureview will absolute booty fuck whatever remains of the ACK-RO market share anyway
Why are we buying non-horosun optics again?
>>65582802>tfw the rmrcc exists
>>65582827I don't understand the point of the USP Compact. It's the same concealability as the regular USP https://www.handgunhero.com/compare/heckler-koch-usp-45-vs-heckler-koch-usp-compact-45Just get a p2000 at this point, at least that looks cool AND different
>>65582812I don't actually have a lorcin lmao. If I had one I'd still go shooting at least once a month with it. Or more realistically I would save up for something decent. >>65582825I've never felt that way about shooting, but to each their own.
>>65582857I carried a P2000 in the Border Patrol. It was chambered in .40. When I got out I bought one in 9mm and it is the best gun I own. I quit shooting it after they quit making it
>>65582607It's got steel baffles which is a must have for .22 imo and an analogue to click-together baffles, yeah it looks like a good design especially at $180
>>65582883> I quit shooting it after they quit making itBut why?
>>65582883When I had to pick a gun for concealed carry, I tried a bunch but it came down to a PX4 or P2000. I don't regret the PX4 as I still think it's thr beat compact on the market but I still think of the P2000 that got away
>mag base plate snaps open to allow for extra grip spaceI feel like a total noob but I've never seen this before on a gun and it's kinda cool. Btw anyone have one of these and like it? hate it? I know the sc is discontinued but I've been meaning to pick one up in 9 just because it looks sick and I hear it's ok.
>>65582883These shits are built like tanks. I know that offends people because they're not literally bombproof but simply shooting the gun does nothing, you can get 100k on there and not even notice.
>>65582900Straight numbers wise, it sucks. Shooting it is great. Sure, it's a bit thick, its flush fit (and extenddo fingger-grip) mags are lower capacity than many modern guns and it has no capacity to mount a red-dot. It is the first pistol I ever bought and I will never sell it. The trigger is surprisingly good. It's very accurate. It's very comfortable to practice with. Every time I shoot it, I think "man, I need to shoot this more often".
>>65582908Dang, now I really want one. How much did you get yours for?
>>65582857Can only speak on the USP 45 compact, but it's significantly slimmer than the full size 45 and definitely shorter. The handgunhero link you sent compares flat baseplate full size to pinky baseplate compact, which is not a fair comparison. I carry picrel USP 45 compact and keep the full size as a bedside gun
>>65582647>The basis should have been 10x25.45 ACP due to the lineage to the first military repeating handgun, the Colt Walker.If anything other, 40 Super, .45 Super necked down to 10mm.https://youtu.be/1073cMmL7ow?t=334
>>65582837Colt MRS-1
>>65582938>40 Super, .45 Super necked down to 10mmThat's interesting, but why does it exist
>>65582857>Just get a p2000 at this pointP2000 has the best aesthetics of the three. I wish it wasn't so hard to find, even on GB. I missed out on all the clearance ones.I don't even understand the point of the P30, all it adds is side panels.
>>65582957better high velocity projectile selection than .45 ACP, high power rechamber for any .45 ACP firearm capable of withstanding the pressure. there was a time where lethality mattered, now we just have slack jawed limp wristed faggots posting thaiwanense lady boys and their plastic 9mm sissy pistols
>>65582977>better high velocity projectile selection than .45 ACP,.45 Super*.45 ACP projectiles going really fast don't do that very well as they over expand and do not penetrate far. What I posted was a 135 gr 10mm projectile going like 1800 FPS that sheds all it's petals within 6 inches for high energy transfer and gnarly fragmentation then the core of the JHP punches to 18 inches. It meets the FBI's theory of lethality (12 -18) and then the .45 guy's theory of lethality (muh energy transfer and temporary cavity).
Any acro plate should work for the new colt optic, correct?
>>65583001correct
>>65582890The px4 wasn't even the best compact on the market when it came out.
>>65583032What's a better DA/SA compact?
>>65581126Dunno, I manufactured that AOW purely out of spite.>>65582883>Border PatrolTYFYS>>65582888Checked, NTA but he'd be SOL if his discontinued pistol needed replacements due to wear.>>65582938>40 SuperThat would address the barrier penetration issue at least.>>65582977>lethalityAny calibre through your cranial nerves would lead to a condition incompatible with life (videoed)
>>65581380Seconding >>65582218. Both cheaper and better, too, believe it or not.
Shot a bunch of 9mm options with my pops today at an indoor range, some unexpected winners.PDP and VP9 weren't as good as I expected, and I felt like the PDP trigger worked against me a bit in trying to find the break. M&P Carry Comp was as good as expected, the 509 surprised in solidity and less than expected recoil impulse. I shot the P30 like a champ at 20 feet but unfortunately can't accept an optic without milling. Largest surprise of the day was the P365 X Macro comp, I think that's almost a lock for one of my pistols to get before fagland WA implements the permit to purchase in May.Anyways it was a good day bros
>>65583041Mark 23
>>65583041Not that guy, but in 2012, I put the PX4 beneath the P-07 and the SP2022 for cheap compact DA/SAs. If I were teleported back to 2005 I would take the PX4, but only because I would know how to modify it.
>>65583102ironically less annoying to use than the actual street sweeper
>>65583102why didn't he rig up something to rack all the slides at once? holy shit it's full auto
We have S&W night guard at home
>>65583050>Dunno, I manufactured that AOW purely out of spite.And now I know what to do with that spare broomhandle.
>>65583113Is that a crossbolt safety?
>>65583113You won't fool me, nightguard has 7 rounds
>>65583119Takedown button to remove the cylinder
>>65583113u have one?
>>65583133Not yet its shipping to my ffl
>>65583137neat. i hope it's good.
>>65580988wrong print orientation so not many
With all the QC issues of Colt and S&W revolvers lately, are Ruger and Taurus the way for revolvers now?
>>65583153Ruger have always been the way forward
>>65583113>>65583137i want one but im worried about the lack of after-market grip compatibility
>>65583113We have bot posts at home
>>65583193Are bot posts at home just jeets?
>>65582647Neat to see a nielsen device in high speed
Hey Vampir anon, sent you an email back sorry it took so long. Found a 20 rounder that appears to have been used like 3 times given the scuffs on the front. If you still would like it shoot me an email.
>>65583093>Anyways it was a good day brosGlad to hear it anon, if it swings your decision the FN 509c is $349 atm and can be made into a subcompact, compact, or fullsize with just a mag swap. Although atm the fullsize mags are out of stock so you would have to buy a 17 round fn fullsize mag and then buy a compact 17 round mag sleeve and slap them together which is silly expensive at like $65 together.
I wish ammo didn't cost so much these days
>>65583226Start hand loading buddy
I wish gun shows weren't literally hookup parties for conservative queers. No, I will not meet you in the bathroom for a discount
My thread lasted on Page 1 for 24 hours, great success>>65583112>rig up something to rack all the slidesWouldn't be worth trading off redundancy. Notice how the center gun failed to fire? The rest would seize too if connected by a slide handle.>>65583115Based>>65583210Indeed.
>>65582840This is the result of immigrant workers and the browning of Sweden
>>65583260Even Glawk is enshittifying. Just accept it
>>65583161J frame grips fit
>>65583264Fucking Smyrna.
I don’t like red dots
>>65583296Fuck you bitch you fucking bitch.
>>65583296Wish I had a red dot sight instead of this bullshit.
>>65583303Try this months challenge. Just set up the target at home. Shit sucks for opticels like us.
>>65583307>Try this months challenge>at home
>>65582180There is one happening right now. Check the OP .PDF links for this months zombie dot torture challenge.
>>65583323Leon tanked that>>65583258Never been to a buckeys but I have been addicted to them joyride candies, I once ate 4 little bags and was shitting bad because they got fiber in them
>>65583323Nice shooting.
Time for bed, have a goodnight everyone>>65583328It's white labeled so you're probably not missing anything.>joyride candiesI'll try those myself if I see them c:>>65583331lol ty
>>65583215Baste. Thanks Anon, looking forward to it.
Virginia has a distressing lack of competitions despite having the headquarters of the NRA, several gun companies, and a fuckton of military bases...
>>65583350It’s a liberal state.
>>65583223so when shooting the 509c the gap of the magazine extension was pinching the mcnigger out of my pinky :(
>>65582142What's the range again? Only place I can go to is an indoor range that only has 25 yards. Also what's a good target?
>>65583350NoVA has a ton of competitions, what are you talking about?between EVTC and Peacemaker in WV, most of the shit in fairfax, and Quantico, you could shoot a match every weekend if you were willing to drive like an hourif you're in RVA or somewhere rural, yeah I could see that it'd suck
>>65583558Southside RVAEverything is 2+ hours away and most of it is shit I don't care about.
>>65583378The midsize glock 19 equivalent is fairly cheap at $399 as well and will not have that problem for you.
>>65583814>>65583378I've shot 17k rounds through my 509c without a single gun related failure and love it, but I have shot the sig xmacro side by side with it and enjoyed that as well. With Washington's restrictions coming in you may want to lean towards the sig as the aftermarket is so much stronger, especially with the serialized FCU. The sig will have stronger aftermarket, be able to convert to any size you want with the FCU, be easier to conceal, and have more available mags in a decade or two. The FN will have a better finish and less parts breakages, with the sig famously breaking springs at relatively low round counts. I'm at 17k without swapping springs, the LAPD ran 2 FN 509s for 20k each without swapping springs and had no failures. The sig 365 platform often has problems snapping springs at 3-5k rounds, meaning you may want a stockpile of them
>>65582090Holy retard this is the worst thing you could own and especially post, a gun styled with some artwork, the gay court of law is going to try and succeed in ruining your life over this if you ever actually tried to defend yourself and shoot someone, taking it as evidence that you're deranged in their minds.
>>65583864Holy new guy. First time posting champ?
>>65582670based Rost Martin family. Get the ported version.
>>65583864kys nigger
>>65583864My soft core porn collection is right next to my 1911 collection and MAGA hat collection. Next to that is my authentic Charlie Chapman prop collection
>>65583913Chaplin*https://youtube.com/shorts/F94H9vQPqK8?is=IC0JU_L2SEJXaesQ
>>65583915>Charlie ChaplinYou do realize he was only larping as Hitler? Also he was a pedo
>>65583864>going to tryA prosecutor would use your favourite colour against you if the judge let him>and succeed in ruining your life over thisNo one has ever been convicted for anything akin to that photo, it doesn't mean shit.
>>65582975have you held a p30? it's sex
I have two questions but I'm saving them for next thread. And, no, they're not common ones
>>65583966>A prosecutor would use your favourite colour against you if the judge let himRealest thing pastebin has ever said
Is a personal check or USPS money order a better idea to use for paying a boomer on gunbroker?
>>65584176money order
>>65584092Ty but keep in mind that it's not a black pill– quite the opposite. A prosecution that has nothing will resort to everything
>>65584176I just get money orders. You're gonna have to mail it anyway, might as well just be at the post office
Im about to go to the range to try my new shadow 2 compact for the first timeRange opens in about 30 minPretty excited
>>65584185>>65584220Thanks brehs
>>65584230Remember to take photos!
>>65583932>he was a pedo A man can’t have hobbies anymore? Real talk the instagram reel American has made the word pedo completely meaningless
>>65584350>Ackchually, he was an EphebophileThat's still pretty fucking suspect– especially if he knew those teenagers personally years prior to marrying them.
>>65584350What the fuck is an Instagram Reel?>using normiegram ever
>>65583966>mixing uppers and downers
>>65584176A check is safer but nobody on GB accepts a check.
>>65584266Ah didnt see this, im home again nowShot 70 rounds, 11 and 15 yards, one and two hand with different time limitsI was ass with one hand, but decent with two
>>65584581Also>going through competition drills on the range>dude with red dot sight (holosun), it stops working>he cant shoot anymore, goes home after 15 minutesIron sights chads rise upYou best be cowitnessing because red dots will probably break sooner than later
>>65583881I bought the standard model, really hope the background check hurries up.
>>65584425>>using normiegramNTA but where else am I going to find videos of females with firearms? Preferably Nihonjin but SEA works too>>65584478kek>>65584581>70 rounds, 11 and 15 yardsSimilar to my range trips!>ass with one handWay she goes, anon.
>>65584636I'd use a red dot on a pistol but I only have one and I quickly realized that in basically have no idea how to properly look through one and zero it right
>>65583323>We have this month's challenge at home
>>65583323heh
>>65584643>he isn't friends with girls in the jsdfAlso Asia is generally a massive anti-gun shithole. I talk to a few girls on-line on the regular and what I get is that a good amount of Asia is even more cucked than Europe.>Iranian told me hunting rifles were banned in 2023>Indonesian said it is impossible apart from the government or some CEOs, unless you join some rebel faction>Jap has a Type 20 because JGSDF servicelady, but other than that harder than the UK to get one>not a lady but I have befriended a local Cambodian guy and he said all guns are completely banned in CambodiaI really just spend different parts of the day talking to different girls around the world (I have a life, though so not all of them every day) and the Asians are pretty poor in gun rights.That said, apart from Yemen, the Czech Republic, Poland and Argentina, guns are stupidly restricted. Even then Polish laws are weird, harder to get a gun than America, but easier than most of Europe, but when you do, self defense is not only protected, but required. Argentina still has room for improvement, the CCW process needs an overhaul.Excuse me for waffling on, but honestly, Asians and guns are almost like oil and water.
>>65584689I'm happy I was born in the USA
>>65584689I was in the Czech Republic when I was a young man and I actually met a beautiful young girl that was huge into airsoft. I showed her pictures of me with my rifles/handguns back home and she was positively foaming at the mouth. Sadly, it didn't work out between us but I hope wherever she is now, she's got her hands on some good guns
>>65584689about half of europe you can own an ar15 and pistols, but you have to go through a lot of hoopssuch as being active in a pistol range to own a pistol, or being active in ipscif you leave the clubs then you lose the right to own the guns. so a lot of people just pay their yearly memberships but never goconcealed carry is rare in europeself defense is also limited.In some countries you can use lethal force to defend life from a deadly threat, but not to defend property
>>65584193Yeah never interpreted it as a black pill. Do not lick a hypothetical boot that theoretically could stomp on your neck. They will stomp on you if they can, what matters is if you let them or not.
How do you guys feel about the px4 full size?
>>65584689>friends with girls in the jsdfThat would be less efficient than trawling Facebook and Instagram for /k/ontent>>65584721>lethal force>to defend propertyThat's illegal in most American states too, always claim defense of the self, nearest and dearest or even the public after using force. Remain silent, demand a lawyer, never speak to investigators!
>>65584730Indeed
what fluids do you guys use in your red dots?i used blinker fluid and now it keeps blinking, annoying af
>>65582090What magazine is this? Monthly arms?? Which issue???
>>65584815:(
is it retarded to use a under rail laser(and light combo) and a red dot at same time?will you see two dots?retarded?
>>65584827No but I am.
>>65582222Quads checked. Please post finished target for comp.
>>65584827Just buy an ar faggot
>>65584864whats lasers got to do with ar's(e)
>>65584862>>65582446>It was raining so the target fell off after 15 rounds.I have more copies so I'll try again tomorrow or this weekend. It was bad but I'll still post a finished one.
>>65584715Shame it didn't work out. I am in your shoes right now, but swap Czech Republic with Argentina, but we are not properly dating yet (she just said she likes me and thinks I am cute and wants to get to know me). The thing is that she would rather live in Argentina than America (she likes America, but her country is first), so I have been familiarizing myself with the gun laws, in case I do decide to visit, because there is good hunting. I have a feeling the current admin might make CCW easy, since they are slowly turning it into America. AR-15s are now legal, but this was not the case ~6-7 years ago. Say what you want about Milei and his admin, but they are a godsend for gun rights. Makes me worried about who is next, though.Also Hi-Point would make serious bank in Argentina, they are perfect, because right now the available semi-autos are too expensive for the average person. Bersa Thunder 380 is like $600, for example.>>65584721Yeah, Europe is more open than people think, but not as open as the US and there are levels. Asia is UK or Germany tier most of the time, if not worse.>>65584780>that group
FUCK YOUI WAS RIGHTFUCK YOUI WAS RIGHT>>65584884Seems she's in need of a strict dry fire regimen and a stern dicking
>>65584869Nta but civvie lam suck ass especially on pistols, laserspeed has like one model
>>65584971so i should just forget the lasers and just use a red dot and maybe a light
>>65584999Checked and yeah.
im about to order an RMRsomeone wants to talk me out of it before i pull the proverbial trigger
Sorry for the dumb questions but how does one zero a red dot on a pistol? I feel like I can't get a good way to even look through the red dot right without it being level or dead straight like how you would zero a red dot on a rifle
>>65585011Its kinda overhyped and don’t get the buttonless or fiber optic ones
>>65585012bench rest, aim and see where it is, then adjustif its way off and you have no idea where the poi is relating to the dot, you can get a bore laser sight to get a rough zero
>>65585012around 25 yards, the red dot will meet the peak of the arch of a handgun roundall other distances, the bullet point of impact will be lower than the dot, by an inch or two maybeat least you dont have to worry about hitting over the dot
>>65585011RMR is a 15 year old design. Buy the MRS-1.
>>65585060i hate closed emitterslooks like you have a japanese apartment block on top of your pistol
>>65585060Sorry but Colt isn’t American enough for me
>>65584266ben avery?
>>65584638both are great. I used the non-ported version to get third place at the gunsite GAS funshoot. 3rd of roughly 285.
>>65585060>buy a brand new untested opticI was going to call you an idiot but actually the more people buy them and beta test them the better, so we can make informed decisions.
I hate bidding.
>>65580752
>>65585082>muh australian usp
>>65585076Can I see? Its getting boring waiting and I don’t even have any new fun video toys to keep my adhd riddled brain preoccupied while I wait to pick it up
>>65585067I wish companies put a least a little effort into making their pistol optics look nice. Give me the option of a silver-colored optic to match a stainless, nickel, or two tone gun. Or make a round hood option to match a round slide.
>>65585088I used to have the vortex defender enclosed on my port version but it died in heavy rain. It is still with Vortex getting evaluated.
Anyone with a px4, how the fuck did you replace your hammer spring? This shit is stuck
>>65585088Top down view. They are the exact same outside dimensions, front post moved back to allow port. Both have the upgraded suppressor sights which barely allow a cowitness.
>>65585088>>65585125Minor rust on the plate that was below the enclosed defender. I CC'D that for about a year before the defender failed in the rain (assumption).Any other questions?
>>65585125>>65585120Unf, I wish the waiting period wasn’t two weeks in this shitty socialist state. I might commit grand heresy and put a sig romeo rose on my glock because its on liquidation sale like $350, I wish someone just made a EPS style dot on the RMR footprint so I wouldn’t need more separate sold plates
>>65585122yank it>>65585077I have 2 (3) of the MRS-1, I have not been able to shoot them yet but side by side with the ACRO it mogs it. ACRO does have some style points but the MRS-1 looks to be very well built (robotically assembled instead of put together by african immigrants).
>>65585129Which one you carry and if so what holster you use? Them handle-it grips worth the extra shekels? Any chance you got a P10-C dry fire mag? I hear the mags are cross compatible so might as well use one for playingHonestly irons don’t matter as I will use a optic, I love my EPS carry but guess a 509t or even AEMS MACRO would be better on my G17 duty iron, probably gonna get a light after holster but design holster around the light anyway
>>65585180>I love my EPS carry but guess a 509t or even AEMS MACRO would be better on my G17 duty irostop buying chinese
>>65585182No, EPS is too good
>>65585180no dry fire mags. I use my t-rex arms P226 w/300 turbo light for the holster for my ported RM1C EDC. Since it is based on the light it works well. Same with my OWB holster for it. I also use the ANR w/side car if I want to carry it without the light for smaller size. I'm back to carrying my 226 since my defender enclosed is getting looked at. I like the HIG stickers, elite, for it. I don't like the standard grip texturing on the original, I haven't felt the updated version.
>>65585071Ye>>65585082USP looks very cool but a poly 9x19 should be capacity maxed
>>65585171Spooked the shit out of me but it worked, thanks. I saw some guy twist it off so I figured there was some sort of geometry on the strut but pulling it off was 100 times easier
Anyone have tips of getting a 2032 battery out of a battery cap? In the freezer right now. I've tried a knife to pry and some brass picks.
>>65585197Heat.
>>65585197In my experience things are easier to take apart when they aren’t frozen solid.
>>65585217women are easier if they're frozen
>>65585217>>65585212Battery and cap should contract/expand at different rates. Figured it'd break loose either way. Torch to a battery cap doesn't sound like the best idea
It seems optic batteries haven't been solved either.>>65584636Yep, the lack of cowitnessing is because pistol optic mounting still hasn't been solved.>>65584654>>65584657Remember the ND pasta that became a bannable offense to post? Kek
>>65585242My bullets be dribblin out too lately. If you know what I mean.
>>65585253That's what happens when you jork too often.
>>65585191>>>65585071 (You)>Yewanna meet up saturday to lock toes and shoot my rost martins and sig 226? b-b-baka
>>65585011>im about to order an RMR>someone wants to talk me out of itDo whatever you want. It's a find red dot, but imo, having to remove your optic from the gun just to change the battery is INSANE in the year of our Lord 2026.
>>65585283>saturdayGoing to be in Texas this weekend so it'll have to be a rain check for now, my fellow Arizonan~
>>65585293Indeed, that's why I recommend the Trijicon RCR instead.
>>65585327Kill your self Fucking garbage optic, skyscraper deck height, fuck huge bezel, worst mounting system ever designed Pic related, before it died from .45 ACP recoil
>>65585187Hmm, I think I will stay better safe than sorry and go with a dedicated model. Never heard of blacklist concealment but their holsters are ready to ship and that ANR one is like $115 and wont ship out till December. What does the concealment claw do?
>>65585355are you talking about a wing claw?
>>65585355pushes against your belt to push the grip of the gun inwards. prevents printing of the grip, like required to actually conceal
>Installed upgrades into px4>Can hear faint gritty scraping of new trigger bar along the inside of the frame if I let the trigger go slowly on resetThis shouldn't be an issue, right? Did quick function test and everything seems fine
>>65585385There’s a spring by the trigger bar that pushes it up, is it in correctly!
>>65585389I should check that just in case. Thanks.
>>65585352>it died from .45 ACP recoilTrijicon didn't fix it?
>>65585389After messing around with my gun a bit I'm not sure if it's the frame or that spring making a hint of grittiness. It could be the little groove under the trigger bar for the top of that spring to sit in. Still the gun seems fine otherwise and I'm so tired I forgot what else I was going to say.
>>65585413>improper installation>damaged as a result>warranty voided
>>65585362Aye.>>65585367I found one that has a claw and there was a different holster that didn’t have one, I could get all the stuff for the RM1C by the time the ANR ships it. There is another place that makes holsters locally and they take three weeks I reckon.
>>65585432Might as well get one with a claw and if you really don't like it for whatever reason you can just unscrew it off. It usually helps though.
>>65585432claw is always good
Why not open carry? All this extra practice pulling your gun out of your pants seems excessive when you could just reach to your hip, draw and point.
>>65585436This is the one I was talking about then putting a aftermarket claw on, trex dont make holsters for em so my market is slim>>65585445I will take your word for it
>>65585449I did open carry in the countryside while on my ebike and its probably why I didn’t get mugged
Anyone here ever use tacswap? Seems kinda gay to have to pay 20-60 bucks just to use the website
>>65585449>OC in the countrySure, why not?>OC in the cityEnjoy getting harassed by cops and having to be extra wary of anyone behind you
>>65585456Less likely to deal with scammers because of the paywall, but just not worth it unless your looking for something niche
>>65585035Given my dumb eyes and overall lack of braincells I might just have to find an actually good bore sight since I haven't been able to find one that wasn't literally dogshit.
Are shoulder holsters a meme? Kinda want to get one but don't know where to start. Recommendations?
>>65585623How else am I supposed to carry whilst fully nude?
>>65585623They're my preferred method of open carrying (rare only at range) and very fucking comfortable but terrible in concealment outside of wearing suits
>>65583113I have a 1st gen NG 327. I suggest you keep the hogue grips.
>>65585663Squeeze it between your cheeks
alright i just ordered a trijicon RMR and a TLR-7 lightwas pricy but its over
>>65585710The patrick star method
>>65585719Nice
>buying an RMR in 2026
>>65585449Many many stories of open carriers being disarmed and killed because they relaxed. You can’t let anyone be behind youI can draw and shoot in under a second from concealment
>>65585413I opted not to send it back>I have to pay for shipping >it’s a garbage optic >even if they fixed it I wouldn’t put it on anything
>>65585827proofs or it didn't not happen
>>65585823I've seen a few guys iopen carrying near me and it's almost always a boomer or a meth head. Even YNs know to keep that shit hidden until you're ready to use it
>>65585830Proof of what? Trijicon makes you pay for shipping. I had to pay for shipping again to get my RMR HD fixed after THEY fucked up the first repair where they battery drained in 3 days.
>>65585839So you have nothing and just want attention
>>65585842Died here >>65216602I posted a picture of it, I own one.I was going to say trijicon is not going to fuck you bro, but then I realized no they will fuck you over. The RCR is a garbage optic. The mounting system makes it taller than an RMR Type 2. I could not put it on my nighthawks since the BUIS were too low to see through the skyscraper deck height.
>>65585850Proof I’ve had to get shit fixed.
>>65585860That doesn’t count because now I feel stupid.
>>65585863Maybe I should have asked to be reimbursed for shipping since that time it was completely their fault >impromptu drop test of RMR HD, glass cracks. >150 dollars + shipping there to get it fixed >get it back, battery drains in 3 days. Drain like 3 batteries testing it >send it back, paying for shipping there again >they fixed it for free since it was their fuck up. I don’t hate you, I hate the fucking RCR
>>65585873What did they mess up? Did they tell you?
>>65585873My Holosun SCS purchases seem vindicated now. Parasitic drain on all my other lights and optics has been ruining my fun recently.
>>65585905Traitor
Any experience with a vpa comp on a px4? Does it fuck up your frame or the finish on the front of your gun permanently?
Is someone going to make a new thread or what? i have so many questions
>>65585960Be the change you want to see
>>65585960I like this thread right now.
>>65585960Hold on I'm baking right now just have to select a picture.
>>65586003Bro its been 4 minutes Let /hg/ die desu lol
>>65584689Guns may be banned in Cambodia but I saw some random homeless looking dude with an AK asleep in a plastic chair downtown Phnom Penh. YMMV
>>65586002Same
>>65585827I'll send you $20 and you can ship it to me instead.
>>65585850>>65585860Wtf, I'm definitely not buying an rmr hd now that I know they'll extort me for all my shekels if it does break. Also you really should get your rcr fixed then just sell it to somebody to recoup some of the cost. I'd be pissed if I spent that much on an optic and it was a paperweight.
Where was you when trijicon fell off?
>>65582938>.40 SuperBased, luv me some bottlenecks.>>65582957>whyBecause 135 grains at 1800 fps.
>>65586203That's amazing, I wonder how fast 40 S&W can launch 135 grain
>>65586198acog still bussin frfr. Not sure why people bother with their other stuff.
>>65586233>still haven't released a comprehensive acog modeltrijicon are cunts.
>>65586203>Because common barriers filter .45FTFY
>>65586233So in the past, when we used iron sights, they used to make us sights with tritium vials embedded into it, they even named themselves trijicon, and at some point across used tritium as an illumination source, they still might.
>>65585182America is only getting browner and worser so whats the point
>>65586203Do you need a stronger barrel to withstand the higher pressure of .40 super, or can you just fire it out of any old .40S&W gun?
>>65586262It's a bottlenecked .45, not an overpressure .40 S&W.Same head diameter as .45, same overall length as .45; generally you're looking at a .45 pistol with a conversion barrel.
>>65586203>>65586355That's bad news for 10mm, it tends to share guns with 45
>>65586372I'll still carry 10mm for grizzlies maybe.
>>65586372They won’t eat 10mm’s lunch because it is superior to them all
>>65586196I like the RMR HD, but it’s a lot for an open optic.I have heard of someone having debris inside their MRS-1 after purchasing it, Colt overnighted the guy another one.
>>65586372Ehh, it’s like decades old. It never took off and factory 10mm ammo is like 40-50 cpr
>>6558649810mm had sad days too, when there's starline, there's always hope
New thread when
>>65586510When you quit being a gooner
>>65586520Goodbye /hg/, it was a good run but it's time to take you out back.
>>65586524It’s been an honor o7
>>65586487The rmr hd does still seem like the best open emitter on the market but yeah there's no such thing as an optic that won't fail or won't have some QC problems. That's why warranty service is so important. As shitty as viridian is they will at least replace your crap quickly and to sigs credit they sometimes won't even request the original optic back.
>>65586626>>65586626>>65586626
>>65586627>The rmr hd does still seem like the best open emitter on the marketlollmao
