I don't think fetishization/chaserism is that bad. Typically, when I fetishize someone, I feel a very strong sexual attraction to them. Combined with certain personality traits of them, it makes me want to love, cherish and protect them forever. Heterosexual sex is mostly fetishism, the concept of a wife and her physical appearance in contrast to her husband is more attractive than the actual woman and such. Therefore, chaserism is more or less typical straightness.
>>42204889they are mentally ill and think they should expect the same a 8/10 cis woman would
>>42204421gay men with long hair will cry about anything.https://www.tiktok.com/@maid.satinfairy/video/7576295820459396365
>>42205220>self-positioning as the enlightened exception - "every once in a while i am hit by a desire to at least try to give a good word to another tranny struggling" (quasi-spiritual calling vibe) or "occasionally some nona is being helped by something i wrote" (focus on own words as the saving force)>soft bootstrap narrative as universal truth - "a lot of it is the result of putting in the work and learning to enjoy the journey. and a lot of that is under the control of the individual" plus the classic "if even one nona considers that, then at least i did some good too">humility as a shield - "am i being too naive? be honest"invites criticism but makes it feel like kicking someone vulnerable>escalating to moral/cosmic stakes when pushed - "if nobody even tries, then the void wins">burke paraphrase about good (wo)men doing nothing - "i just want more happy trannies. is that really so bad?">externalizing failure to communicate onto audience/environment - "it'd soon be flooded by gigacommies and more crabs in the bucket"the overall tell is the constant subtle contrast between "me (successful, altruistic, seeing clearly)" and "you/them/this place (struggling, bleak, crabby)". it's wrapped in care and emojis, which hides the hierarchy even more.i get the esl angle, i have the same issue a lot. understand that this is what someone might gather from what you're saying even if that's not your intention. i'm not saying they're right, i'm saying you aren't communicating effectively enough that what you're trying to do actually succeeds.
>>42205255I'm neither misogynistic nor celibate.>>42206096Okay, this was somewhat helpful. At least it responded to half of my questions.Thanks.
>>42207211you asked a singular question, and i answered it, so what are we on about?im not saying anything needs to change, im just telling you why people react the way they do. the rest is up to you.
I feel like expanded facial planes aren't talked about nearly enough in trans spaces, to the point where many think they're a myth and something brainwormed tttters came up with.But they're actually real. If you have a really big skull, your features are going to be very distant from one another, which is extremely dimorphic. Your features could be corrected and look female through FFS, you'll still look absolutely unmistakably male because that's how pattern recognition works.I've had ffs and I don't pass because my face is unmistakably male.It sucks that it's not talked about at all.
>>42205985wait what
Seriously my face is removing my desire to live. I really thought ffs would make me feel better but instead I just feel hopeless.
>>42205985>sshpuld>actualmy based strokemoder.
>>42205985Schizo
>>42206302This but unironically
>"i want a bf.jpg">starts looking for bf>uh oh, cant find anyone>starts looking EVERYWHERE>ignores that hes literally not my type and forces the relationship>relationship ends bad (ofc it did bruh)>in the meantime gets used by anyone who approaches you hoping you have hopes with them but they just want to jerk off to fresh meat (low quality chasers bruh)is this really what dating is like? am I doomed to never find the one and just be comformist with whatever normie chaser i get?
>>42204212This is fake.>>42204225They're fake.>>42204426You don't even know what that is. Nothing happy about a lie.
>>42204436This is obv BS but kill yourself anyway.
>>42204525I promise its not fake, Im enjoying my last day with him right now
>>42204123Whores aren't made for loving
>>42204123this image is making me cry :(
Is it possible to be a man and still be a tranny? Like you're transitioning from man to man but you're a tranny because you're just obviously a tranny?
>>42206633is that clav? Is clav embracing makeupmaxxing?! if so it's truly fucking over.
>>42206633I think trans this is the hiearchy:1. Supreme Queens: Passing (full rejection of LGBT)2. Princesses: HSTS (gay men with a fetish for straight men)3. Princess consorts: AGP (full time crossdresser)4. Jealous queens: Crossdresser (part time trans)
>>42206744he's been doing it for a while now. recommends tinted sunscreen+concealer to guys to fraud clear skin
>>42206820it's so fucking over goddamnit, that was the only edge I had over chad is that I wasn't afraid to wear makeup. FUCK
>>42206832there is LITERALLY nothing wrong with wearing light makeup as a cis man except doing it really fucking bad and looking like a clown.
I've never seen them work the stereotypical tranny jobs like barista, tech worker or 9-5, it's always some unconventional job, Runway model, IG influencer or model, TikTok star, musician, Sex worker with OnlyFans or Prostitution
>>42205086Those working normal jobs probably don't have the time to doll up like that.
>>42205086>why do people play to their strengthscurious
>>42205086You think they could even afford surgery with those other jobs?
>>42205122>>42205128>>42205933Then why do rich trans ppl never surge up in the same way? I'm talking about john 50s who made it in their male life
>>42207008They often do lmao, but they're also old and shit doesn't work as well.
In highschool my main female friend group took me in as the token gay kid. They were really nice, helped me learn beauty and makeup stuff and kept me from feeling alone as I grew increasingly isolated from my male peers, and even "accepting" when I came out as trans, but I was never treated as a woman by them. This became so intolerable that I also isolated myself from them and spent my last year in hs alone until I could start transitioning.I am relatively early transition, a boymoder, but do announce my status as a tranny when meet people I'm going to be around for a while, just because being treated as a tranny is more tolerable to me than being treated as a man. And every time this happens I get the same treatment of token acceptance and support but distinct othering. They can be nice people and not transphobic at all, but I never get treated as a girl and exist as the same token queer person they use to virtue signal. I hate it.
>>42206999And before I get the obvious, yes, I know this is the result of me not passing. I'm just venting. I think most people on here don't understand that open and effeminate trannies don't get treated like men, we get treated as some distinct either no sex wants to claim.
I want to be held by a tall transbian and maybe groped a little. Bonus points if she gets me high first.
>>42205229is 6'2 tall enough?
>>42205229is 171cm tall enough
>>42205229fucking same. there is a particular type of taller transbian that fetishes short, chubby little boymoders like myself, and i neeeeeed a girl like that to do unspeakable things to me + we love each other forever as pack bonded soulmates <3
>>42205279eww i would rather have a transbian who does not have a pp at all
I'm 6'0 and like to lift weights and I enjoy reading threads like this just to feel desired.
I need a cis girl to suck on my boobs so bad
>>42203665Buy em dummy also it's anime there larger than realistic
>>42203549You don't have boobs. You're a man.
>>42203694did you know that saliva makes booba produce milk with antibodies specialized for the immume system of whoever is suckin' them tiddies?so potentially the ultimate protein shake
me too :( and to tease me and call me cute things and think i am beautiful
>>42203549no i've only ever had boys suck on my boobs
what to do with your life after your transition fails?
>>42206709yes you areno tranny is that unaware
>>42206745Maybe they just animation memes
>>42206724Idk I just play with it tbhon>>42206712Some are nice
>>42206745lol i do 4mg every 7 days ik a normal dose retard i just think ur fucked and should hondose
>>42206809:D
FTM dysphoria isn't real. AFABs literally can't be dysphoric. What they mistake for dysphoria is actually every rational person's desire to be less vulnerable. And men are less vulnerable by every metric. It's pure pattern recognition. FTMs don't want to be men, they just want to cease being women.Inb4 why don't more women troon out: your average person is retarded as fuck. They don't internalize the pattern. It's no coincidence that trannies score better on IQ tests.
>>42206498Just go through /ftmg/, /femrepgen/, subreddits for FTM trannies. It's either terminal fujo porn brain or this.
>>42206577Not a direct answer to my query
>>42206577Malebrained FTMs do not label themselves as FTM & stay in FTM community. And rather assimilate into male society. Therefore there is always alot of selection bias.
>>42206574what metrics
>>42206592The only way I can come to conclusions on the nature of troonism is through observation. I've never seen anything that would disprove my impression that AFABs run from their birth sex rather than toward becoming the opposite sex.>>42206595>you know why you don't see them? it's because they are... invisible owo
>>42199245try 23
>>42204386A reminder to your brainworms is that these are models doing a photo shoot. "Supposed to look like" but 95 percent of cis women can't look like.
Yes and there's nothing you can do about. Shoulda cared more
>>42204996Those are ordinary women anion
All tranniesBig soph just didn't try
The entire idea of it is silly and down right fetishistic. To remove a "boy" is impossible for another person to do, transition is something that you must do your self.
>>42199297>anon's first realization that all babytrans lingo is extremely cringe
>>42204136I've never groomed anyone, I've simply had sex with bottoms.
>>42199297>The entire idea of it is silly and down right fetishistic
I think being on top of a cutie, feeling the boy leave their body in a fit of orgasmic shivers with my cock still buried impossibly deep inside them would fix me
>>42199297Boy removal makes logical sense. You can't just choose to be a woman in a vacuum, you need to be degraded by a man to get your man card revoked.
I don’t know what I am other than just “boything”I want to look like a cis dude but I also like being somewhat feminine I have a typically female haircut but also I don’t like thatI was on T for a few months and was actually happy (wow)I think I want to look like Gordon Freeman but that’s probably because I spend all day sitting in my room playing half life all day because I don’t have a social lifeIdk what to do anymore
I'm AGP but feel like boys have superior childhoods. Not even in a boys rule girls drool type of gender war way. It's just cool that young boys had more social permission to larp like gigachad fighters and do dragon ball z powerup sequences on the playground, have ninja battles with sticks etc. Even if I was afab I would prefer being socialized male.
I DESERVE TO BE SHORT!!!FUCK MY SHITTY 6'3 LIFE!!!
>>42206070won't fix it I'm too fucking big I'm huge I'm a monster and i talk to troons all the time who don't have to experience this and just take it for granted or consider it a negative even
>>42206326*pats your 3'1.5" self and gives you a gentle kiss*
height doesnt mean anything im a foot shorter than u and still dont pass and never will
>>42206613iwnb 3'1.5" fmstl>>42206632look, it's not even just about passing, I'm body is straight up awful even without taking my height into account, but like male = big, i feel so dysphoric just like, feeling myself have to look down to talk to people, cry that I'll never get made to feel small next to a man, people assign so much dumb bullshit to height too, you don't have to hear the stupid dommy mommy bullshit ever. idk i mean it's fucking awful for passing don't get me wrong but even if i were a passoid I'd despise being tall
>>42206040same i wish i was short but i am 6'1. i’ve been taller than every woman i’ve met and almost every man. i should be 5'3 especially because my parents are both so short but god thinks it's funny to make me a giant
