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Help me understand something.

If a trans person is anyone who doesn't conform to the traditional genders, wouldn't that make gay and lesbian people trans as well?

Also, if gender is largely a social construct, why is it necessary for a trans person to be affirmed if it's made anyway? Isn't it more efficient and straightforward to just express yourself intuitively, rather than all aligning yourself to what is functionally a new gender ?
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>>42184046
>>42183956
Roses are red,
Violets are blue.
If you look like a man,
I'm not calling you ma'am.
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>>42183956
Any lgbt person can conform to gender norms in terms of jobs or clothing if they want
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>>42184051
To be honest, I wouldn't really mind if you use she/her pronouns on me but if one were to ask what's my gender it'll always be male instead of "non-binany" or whatever it calls. And no I'll not voice trian as that's not the type of aesthetic I'm aiming for.
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>>42184135
The fact you're attention whoring so much in this thread just proves you'll always be woman. You're just DESPERATE for attention.
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>>42183956
Dysphoria = trans
But imo, if you don't have some kind of intersex trait, you shouldn't be allowed hrt

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i thought honmoding in public would help with my confidence, help with my faketrans brainworms, get me used to my future life and just help me with actually putting the work into my transition but ever since looking back on a photo of me on the night i just have have felt sick to my stomach. it's been well over a week now, i still feel weird and anxious constantly. i should have never taken a photo cuz i was otherwise proud of myself for going out at all and putting in effort to look fem and had a great night.
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..... Yeahhhhh.....

Here's a secret though. Most people hate their selfies and it's common for women too, there's an art to taking good pictures and if you're not 10/10 pretty you have to learn the art.

I don't know it personally I suck at it but taking a few pretty selfies of myself when my hair and the lighting is good makes me feel better.

T. Lateshit 10 months hrt that looks like her mom but clocky
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>>42183388
honestly nona cameras can do a lot to warp our perception of ourselves, especially when dealing with dysphoria and dysmorphia collectively
did you look good in your reflection? trust that. give things another shot and try to avoid photos for a while, even on my best days a rough photo can make me question everything. you'll pull through nona i believe in you
stay safe out there
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>>42183388
i've been honmoding for nearly 5 years
half the time i see myself differently each time i look in the mirror
i've noticed that i sometimes see myself as looking more feminine after doing my injection, but that might just be weird psychological stuff

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like i boyfailed once and just started wearing clothes that work with my figure so people just call me a girl but like i never really needed to voicetrain or learn makeup so now im just a mid looking girl that doesn't talk or wear makeup and i dont have the motivation to change that because people call me a girl anyway so why bother?

idk how do i motivate? like yeah i want to have a voice that is my own and not my dads but like im not punished for not doing that so like
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>>42183854
mine wasn't actually larp tho. i did make myself to be more of a gigapassoid than ia ctually am tho. i have a clocky brow and a HUGE adams apple. like. ok to be so fr. this thing is HUMUNGOUS. i have no idea how its so big when i got h rt so young.. sorry i should've just stfu i dont like to give ppl ropefuel when i dont have to.
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>>42182726
I WILL rape you anon
t. 6'2 rephon
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>>42184027
Tbf I look like a gigachad starting hrt at 18 and looked almost the same at 14 so probably early puberty.
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>>42182250
im so sorry you have to go through that anon. that's really tough
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>>42184093
yeah intershits pmo

I noticed that the anglosphere trannies tend to be way more clueless about whether they pass and I think there is a simple reason.

Our languages are way more gendered than english and other western languages. In english, you can easily have an hour-long grammatically correct conversation without knowing the other person's gender. But for us, it's not just honorifics, it's also adjectives, past tense verbs, conditionals, numerals etc. And even the gendered honorifics (like english sir and ma'am) are used way more frequently in day to day conversations, in fact they are often required if you speak to a stranger.

Also, people won't hugbox here. If they clock you, they will address you as your AGAB.

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What is "cunny"? I keep seeing trans online talk about "cunny"
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>>42182836
loli pussy yummy
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>>42182923
>>42182950
>>42183592
Why do trans like female children's genitals? Why are you pedophiles????
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>>42183615
Calling them pedos doesn't work anymore saar, the epstein files are out.
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>>42183615
boring bait
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>>42183455
i need a real man to fuck this stupid bullshit out of you babygirl

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mtfs with passing voices, what resources did you use to voice train?
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>>42179318
is it agp to use vtuber's voice as the inspo?
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>>42179105
I used the talmud
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>>42179105
lupron
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>>42182856
that's okay nonny you weren't obligated to reply at all lol. thank you. i'm going to be a pain, though: it's not really that i'm worried about passing, it's that i don't understand what mannerisms i have that make people hear what they do when i speak. is it all mannerisms that make me sound female? is it the tone, too? is it only the tone? i'm working towards something androgynous, like i said to the other nona, and i don't really know how to get there from here. i am wondering if vocal mannerisms might have something to do with it.
you don't have to respond to this, either, and please don't if it is too complicated; i just thought maybe you would know a lot about the subtleties of speech since you were placing a lot of importance in that and having lived with cis women in your original post. nobody ever really talks about this stuff in voicegens lol.
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>>42179105
i just watched a bunch of transvoicelessons and copied her
i used my voice daily and practiced like an hour every day for 6-8 months

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Trans attracted men of /tttt/, what have your dating experiences been like with straight trans women?
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>>42173471
i love my transgender wife so much. she will stare at me longingly if i so much as touch her. would strongly recommend all chasers wife an affectionate tranny and treat her well.

t. married chaser
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>>42183769
okay I’ll admit this was a larp and I’m just a very lonely tranny who wants a husband who loves me
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>>42183586
A big thing I've noticed is most guys into trannies are emotionally immature and can't square away their attraction with their mental image of themselves as the straight man they've always been.
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>>42173471
>Trans attracted men of /tttt/
Reporting for duty.
>what have your dating experiences been like with straight trans women?
I'm not interested in trans women.
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>>42180249
>In all fairness, it's just two schizos ruining the thread.
this happens this is 4chan

I thought political lesbianism was a discredited meme
Why do bisexual and lesbian women want heterosexual women to read lesbian fiction so much?
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>>42180524
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>>42171281
One of my favorite things to see on twitter/bluesky is where the cis queer female yuri fans try to appeal to cishet/bi women with this kind of shit, but instead they end up attracting trans lesbians.

It's just never not funny. You can tell that what they desperately want are those ao3 girlies, but all they end up getting are insecure autistic trans women who want to make skirt go spinny.
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>>42182358
I can't understand why they're so bitter all the time.
Trying to deceive people definitely it's NOT the easiest way to make friends.
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>>42174491
>It sounds counterintuitive but it's because actual gynophilia is shamed and seen as patriarchal by these people, even if it's gynophilia among women.
Oddly enough this is a product of feminism. It was second-wave feminism that postulated that men overtly expressing sexual attraction is innately predatory and harassment, massively ramping up neuroticism about harmless come-ons among the most neurotic part of humanity. Obviously, there's a limit to how far this can go in straight spaces since men fundamentally don't care and think the whole theory is stupid, while str8 women want to get hit on by men. But in lesbian spaces where the guardrails are off, this can be taken to its natural conclusion of seeing any sexual interest as prurient and debasing, whereas "real" love is pure and abstract and produced by things like "admiring your moral rectitude" or "respecting my career achievements".
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>>42180524
I unironically believed this shit when I was pre transitioned.

what does a boymoder have for her new year's resolution?
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>>42183838
hm?
>>42183895
very good! i hope you have a lovely 2026. and everyone else too!
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>>42183943
>>42183312
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>>42183943
You made 2025 a very fun year, thank you :3 *hug*
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>>42183951
oooooooohh. the thing about boymoders that emerged from that kurumi nanase is that it's not supposed to look like irl tho. idk what's the problem, really....
>>42183961
ehehehehehehhe, tysm. you too! :3
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>>42183807
>what does a boymoder have for her new year's resolution?
To accept that you're never too old to BoyMode!

post desktop ,guess letters
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>42170487
>42171267
>42171991
>42173021 (maybe)
>42174769
chaser
>42170943
>42171025
>42171079
>42171183
>42171372
>42171386
>42171470
>42171646
>42171925

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>>42181177
discord?
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>>42175768
praise the peak, glazing lotm is the reason this heart still beats
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>>42180082
lmaooo what is this
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i have lots to do today to not fail at 2025 ;-;

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This woman was murdered and dismembered by a tranny in Sweden last Saturday.
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We should just execute gigahons on the spot. Same for srsoids
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>>42182618
>He was close to passing
in what way???
he is literally bald
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>>42182437
>trust me bro
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>>42179345
HEEEYYY, BUFFALO BILL
WHO DID YOU KILL?
BUFFALO BILL
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>>42183376
Storing mentally ill unfixable psychos in a mental institution for life is much more expensive than just scrapping them as well as totally pointless/a risk if they escape

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Thoughts on queerfluid enby tranny gamer goth mommys?
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is that jim sterling
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>>42184040
she needs to commit to either goth or redditor
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>>42184040
eh i'd let her powerbomb me off of the turnbuckle

Homura edition

Previous: >>41924395

>QotT
Who's your waifu/husbando?

Tagmap: https://tagmap.io/tag/%2Fbigen%2F

FAQ:
>Am I bi if I like women and femboys/traps?
>Am I bi if there's this one member of the same-sex I'm desiring, but normally I like the opposite sex?
>Am I bi if I sexually like both sexes, but only interested in romance with one of them?
Yes, sexual attraction to both sexes is bisexuality.
>Do you have presents ready for me Santa?

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>>42183283
I see your point, but I am okay being with someone 100% straight. I do think it is important to be sexually compatible though. Having mismatched libidos can create some resentment in my experience. Although, that wasn’t the reason the relationship I had ended

>>42183292
Yeah, it is on my bucket list. Honestly, I would be fine finding a women who was into it and settling down but I think those are rare. It seems much easier to find a guy willing to try it and get it over with lol.
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>>42182847
I get where you’re coming from. You don’t have to share everything with a potential partner upfront though. You can if you want and mutual trust and openness is a necessary and healthy thing in a relationship. but it’s not like they have a right to know every little detail about your life.
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>>42183410
Yeah, that is a good point. I just know that I would share it with the person I am with in the future and I worried about it hurting the relationship. I probably would share it on the first date though haha
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>>42183456
It’s certainly the healthy thing to do long term. Keeping it a secret… it can eat you up inside. Maybe I’m too much of a boomer, but I could never share something like that on a first date. Like, I can barely contain enough crazy as is
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>>42183999
Oh I meant to say wouldn’t… yeah no I would not share it on the first date

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Is to more fembrained or malebrained to hate your mother? What about your father?
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>>42181522
I agree. Further, I believe it's more female to hate your mother and more male to hate your father, regardless of your own sex
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>>42181347
how do we know you're not pure evil
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>>42181732
Ah. Now we are perhaps getting somewhere.
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I hate my mum, and find my dad to be pathetic and sad.
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assuming there's genuine reasons to hate a parent i dont think its really genderbrained at all. if you're just on some incel/femcel shit its very cringe. go set the table losers

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8 months postop FFS, am I cooked?
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>>42183507
>>42183541
>>42183585
you facepass but sorry for your height and hands
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>>42183823
>somewhat noticably tall woman with an alright face but MALE HANDS
I'm not saying it's over and she should rope but the average woman absolutely doesn't have this problem
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you pass but please use some hair oil
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>>42183861
That bar is too high for 80 percent of cis women. You def look attractive tho.
>>42183931
They're not that bad really.
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