Why did a lot of gay rights activists in the late 20th century supported pedophilia? Many of the high profile ones like David Thorstad had ties with NAMBLA and a lot of lgbt friendly zines like the body politic or semiotext(e) published pro pedo shit wtf
I blame sexual revolution. It made some people think any kind of limitation on sexuality is inherently oppressive.
>>40889972whatever was going on at that time i'm glad it stopped, the postmodern ideas that actually matter survived and everything else withered away for good
>>40889972Because a lot of the time it was aligned with persecution of homosexuals. Like different and much higher ages of consent than what was normal for heterosexual couples. Alan Turing in the UK was a pedophile for having a fling with a student in his 20s or so.>>40891430You mean trying to actually think it through and understand it. You're glad that stopped and just accept the current arbitrary lines, except that even those aren't universal around the world. You have to either accept criticism of the arbitrariness of it, or you have to condemn places with a lower age of consent as pedo territories, which includes some states. Then as a moral person how could you ever accept working with and supporting territories that committed such crimes?
It was a weird era
>>40889972sexy kids, I guess. maybe gen alpha just isn't worth fucking
NAMBLA was a christian fundamentalist psyop from the very start. To assume government and religious entities were not trying to poison the well back then is foolish. They had animus and motive and finances to do so. You are assuming any of these people were genuine and not simply paid to make gays look bad.
I hate foucault
>>40891633I wonder if this was what Suddenly Last Summer was referencing.
>>40891622Nah it was a leftist organization whose members were influenced by postmodernism and anarchism.
>>40891648or, it was fake and the point was to give material to homophobes like you so you can claim gays are pedos to justify broader restrictions on gays
>>40891633The guy saying it also only started saying it after he had already died and nobody got to the bottom of it. It's not like Arthur C. Clarke that was credibly accused of being a pedo while alive, and charged, but then had it covered up so he could be knighted, with no mention on his wiki entry or anywhere else.
>>40891652I'm not a homophobe. I don't think it does any good for the left to just cope by treating this period of history as deliberate psyop or some shit. Maybe this is the result of open embrace of anarchism and postmodernism.
>>40889972Because society generally supported pedophilia and gay men want to fuck teenage boys. The whole taboo against underage sex is recent.
>>40891700Foucault was definitely sus. He used to argue a lot about how age of consent should be completely removed(not just lower) and how children can consent too.
>>40891648Source: You just made that up.
>>40891703>I'm not a homophobesure ya aren't
>>40891580i agree with what you say, but i don't condem anyone, i just want children to be safe and live a life of dignity
>>40891713Look who founded and supported it. It's disingenuous to call it Christian fundamentalist when most of them were leftist of some flavor.
>>40891728im sure that's the real reason you are demonizing gays - you just really want to protect those kids!
>>40891580AoC should be 18 everywhere in the world. European generally has a pedophilia problem.
>>40891734im saying the whole entire thing was a psyop from the start "look it up"and get disinformationchristians have been trying to erase gays for millenia and smearing them as child rapists is a big part of thatits not hard for a group of christian men to claim to be gay and march in a parade with a banner saying they want to fuck kidsminimal effort - and homophobes like you will bring it up forever as a way to paint all gays as rapists
>>40891712That's why people accepted the posthumous accusation. No word on what they think about the guy that accused him but in doing so admits he kept it secret and let him continue all those years. Critiques of institutions and laws is also valid no matter the crimes they apply to, unless you believe society never changes or you have to believe all your parents and grandparents and ancestors are criminal sickos.
>>40891734Which is why you're saying Noam Chomsky and friends founded it.
>>40891744No the US does in many states. You remember Matt Gaets? His awesome defense was that she was 17 but it was legal in that state. Happened only a couple of years ago so not a problem of 1960-1970
>>40891793hysteria over men having sex with kids shows just how much power females have over society
They were CIA spooks gettin high on their own supply
>>40891800But can you stay on topic instead of swerving into incel seething points when it refutes the claim?
Bro I thought Oscar Wilde was some kind of homosexual martyr until I found out he's an actual pederast who did pedo sex tourism with his friends.
>>40891793Those states are wrong too. He is wrong. I don't get your point. How is this shit even controversial? The only reason AoC is below 18 in a lot of places across the world is just due to religion.
>>40891728Tbf the major reason pedophilia is harmful is because it’s stigmatized, you don’t have le heckin trauma in those African/indigenous tribes that ritually diddle cuz it’s just normal and not weird at all.However that requires a high trust, communal society that can effectively police the bad actors extrajudicially, which we do not have.
>>40891888>>40891800Are you gay?
>>40891826You just had to be there
remember you are posting in a conservative anti-gay psyop threadnone of these people care about kids - they just want to make gays look bad to promote the interests of women (conservatism)
>>40891942remember you are posting on 4chan. None of this matters and your words all are just a trough of slop for LLM training with no lasting value unless you actually contribute something novel enough to virally proliferate
>>40891835They're not just wrong, they're criminal and evil if you're consistent. How can you live with yourself with those states near you and the government allowing it? By not accepting that it is socially constructed and there can be critique you push yourself into an impossible position almost immediately.
>>40891744it's not pedophilia if they're post-pubertal and ending hs/starting college dogit's creepy due to social differences in standing/legal rights/ability to fight back, I agree, but not pedophiliaif an 18/19 wants to fuck a 16/17 is it pedophilia to you? that's vast majority of these tarded "pedo" cases
>>40891835Im not seeing the correlation
>>40889972It's dey cultcha.
>>40891739im NOT demonizing gay people, im against OP's use of the "gay right activists" category because its not the fact that they were gay that they made those conclusions, it was a whole line of thinking of the era that also included some gay thinkers, saying it was "the gays" its a dumb generalization of a grander narrative of the time that concluded with "pro pedo shit"I should've made that clear in my first reply
