>>40891325
>stealth
this is just gay panic

>>40891325
ayy lmao

>>40891325
Good
Be honest with people or its rape

>>40891350
Are you blind

Gets dick.
Goes to court gets convicted.
Goes to jail.
Gets dick x100.
????
Profit!

>>40891325
Why are British people so fucking ugly? Also, female British fashion seems perpetually stuck in 2005 with the guido tan + lip injections + bimbo aethestic

Must have had a shit lawyer. Theres no way to prove he didn't know and wasn't told verbally beforehand.

>>40891562
Just don't stealth. Stop all that

The only person you need to disclose your biological sex to is your doctor.

>>40891325
Good. I'm the biggest tranny lover there is and even I think stealthers should get the rope

>>40891372
need this desu

>>40891325
On the one hand, you should be honest about your trans status otherwise it's rape. On the other hand, how can you not know with a hon like that?

>>40891325
> failed to disclose her gender status
Bruh her face already did

>>40891325
I look like that and do that

>>40891325
There can be no doubt when historians look back at this period that there was a Trans panic going on. Dude literally was given a blowjob and they convicted the giver.

Do they have gloryholes in Britain? Isn't that a crime every suck off? You have no idea what the sucker even looks like, gender, age, nothing.

Nightclubs where its dark and people drink alcohol and grope or kiss on the dance floor? You don't see them, either. This whole case is predicated on ridiculous foundation.

>>40891947
Youre confusing sex and gender. In england you have to be honest about your sex.

>>40891947
Hopefully queerstorians will have separated the gay panic from the AGP menace by that point so this and that will be a separate thing

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Should be compulsory for mtf trannies to carry id indicating their hrt Regime and a photo like picrel of their pre transition face so men know whether or not they wanna nut inside.

>>40891991
>>40892018
Neither of you bots answered my two hypotheticals, go fuck yourselves.

>>40892104
Why would anyone waste time answering hypotheticals?
You van invent imaginary scenarios to get mad at all day but here in the real world you need to be honest about your sex regardless of your gender.

to think that trannies are raped and never report it because they're afraid of not being taken seriously and then bongs pull this shit, absolutely deranged
btw if i get raped by a guy who doesn't know i'm a tranny am i going to jail? lmao

>>40892124
bongistan is not "the real world"

>>40892104
Those were rhetorical.
>can’t even tell your own rhetorical questions are rhetorical

you can now rape a tranny in bongistan and convince the court that it was not only consensual but that she didn't tell you she was male and get her convicted instead

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It's over for trannies even passoids have to revealb status to just dick suckling.
Stick with chasers

>>40892021
>pre transition face
god I need to just quietly die

>>40891325
I feel bad for these british trannies, a bad faith man can report you for rape by deception if he wants, the terf court would agree with him
and then the fact that normie british trannies don't have HRT, so they have to only be men in dresses

>>40891991
this is the only country in the world that does this, in britain you have to penetrate someone with a penis to be considered rape
until 1992 you could rape your wife
british laws shouldn't be taken serious

>>40892135
that one youngshit that got stabbed was probably coerced into the filmed bj that they were trying to frame her for btw

>>40891325
I know it’s my tism and ocd but Jesus h Christ those brows, she should be thrown in jail over those alone; why? Why would anybody make that choice aesthetically to have a tan, dark hair and then grayish neutral brown brows. Get your shit together

>>40892135
idk but i was sufficiently scared that i wasn't going to complain i got raped

>>40891947
I've never seen a gloryhole in England, we don't have any equivalent to Folsom or anything like that, anglo culture is too frigid

>>40891350
It's a medical condition, it's just like any other part of my medical history. Am I suppose to disclose that I have allergies too? What if I had covid? Fuck off you dumb sack of shit. If you assume something about me, that's not me lying, that's your own fucking fault.

>>40891325
We’re going to have this thread every single huh

Every act of cultural subversion against England is an unmitigated moral good. Just last week I helped a rural teenager acquire estrogen behind her parents' back. She will never need to experience what we faced in the pre-DIY era. What are you doing today to weaken England as a political force?

>>40893079
>>40891947
gloryholes are a myth

>>40893101
Be honest with your sexual partners about your medical conditions anon. Its plain evil to do otherwise. Have you no morals?

>>40893122
you need to understand the new sex laws.

>>40891325
nice so a transgender people get criminally prosecuted for consensual sex because the world just fucking hates us so much and yet the ppl who have actually committed sexual abuse against me will never be condemned by anyone ever, let alone by the legal system.
gotta love humanity, man.

And don't forget the conditions of the British prisons you'll be sent to >>40893478
https://x.com/David_Challen/status/1955359762910155226 (yes, the press are misgendering him, as usual)

>>40892191
No she had already had ffs and was detransitioning when that pic set was taken.

>>40892573
being british is a genetic disability

>>40893631
When did she say this

>>40893368
Just be honest with your partners. How difficult can that be?

imagine how much better the world would be if filters were banned from photos.

>>40891562
Hey, Watkin could have had a 100 percent affirmative defense if she had disclosed upfront on all social media.

>>40891886
>>40891892
Its the uk..

two things here, first, what did she do exactly? Handjob? Suck his dick? Send him nudes? Did they have PiNeopuss? I've done 3/4 of these without disclosing and by these standards should definitely be in a male prison, but literally nobody i know views me in a negative light for doing so.

second thing. HE KNEW YOU RETARDS. are you people blind????? ten thousand percent when his friends found out he said "uh uh uh i didn't know! she tricked me!" and they encouraged him to try to press charges.

>>40894626
>disclosed upfront on all social media
why would anyone ever do this in the current political climate. for some of us this would mean coming out to almost everyone we know

>>40894689
Also why would you do it if you're the most blatant hon in the universe???

same thread on pol - >>>/pol/514474219

sometimes I find pol more reasonable than lgbt in recent months. what do you think?

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>>40895126
cool pic from that thread, i wanna get this tattooed above my tramp stamp

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>>40895188
even allies and chasers are disgusted. see dave's comment

The perp could be going away for a long time for what they did.

sexual penetration of the vagina or anus with a part of the body or “anything,” without consent and without a reasonable belief in consent.

>>40895251
i've done shit like that a bunch and none of the cis people in my life think it's bad or care much aside from worry the guy would hurt me, i actually sent that article to a group chat with only cis people in it and they all said it was fucked up she was convicted. How does not disclosing the sex you were born as count as rape? I would never ever want to sleep with a man who's had chlamydia, but i'm sure I have because I don't ask. That doesn't mean those guys raped me, if you have a problem sleeping with a specific group of people that you might fuck on accident, it's up to you to mention it.

>>40895297
>i've done shit like that a bunch and none of the cis people in my life think it's bad or care much aside from worry the guy would hurt me
If they weren't the ones being assaulted then it doesn't matter one bit.

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need to bring this one out again i thinks

What the hell is going on in England.

I sometimes think Canada is a little bad and I'm not even trans, england seems hellish in general.

>>40891325
I thought they could always tell? Were they wrong?

>>40895433
Fascism is going on in England

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>>40895420
every time

>>40895251
What was the penetration act?

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I've straight up sucked dick and had the guy absolutely freak out on me because he didn't know I was trans. He pushed me off him and said "is that a fucking dick" I literally said "no shit" then he threw me against the wall and washed his dick in the bathroom sink and took off. I've had guys throw me out of their cars when the found out I had a dick.

>>40896670
> I've had guys throw me out of their cars when the found out I had a dick.
Pretty much guarantees they are not gay.

>>40896670
sounds like you need to be arrested

>>40895438
>drunk guy at a club has impaired judgement.
I mean literal hog women look fuckable with beer goggles on.

>>40896747
they need to be arrested you retard, i've been in similar situations and those men are always stupid and violent to non-trannies as well

Intentionally withheld information to engage in sexual acts with someone who clearly would have NEVER done it if they actually knew what they were getting into. Yep fuck you for that.
>>40893101
You have parts they don't want to engage with sexually. YOU NEED TO BE HONEST ABOUT THAT

I swear we need to a brand a big fat T on your foreheads at this point

>>40896898
nta but it's on them to say something if it's a problem for them, i wouldnt wanna fuck a guy who did a hit and run in 2015 but it's not rape if i do because i didn't ask. You're living in bizarro world if you think the onus isn't on the person with the preference to make sure they're following it

>>40896670
>washed his dick in the bathroom sink and took off
you are basically describing the male equivalent reaction of a rape, maybe stop trying to fuck those types of men?

>>40896973
How is a dude, that is possibly drunk, supposed to go about this? Like "say you are not one of those penis having women are ya?" If you are a tgirl just be honest about that when you are trying to have one night stands with random men. No dude is gonna be like "Oh let me check real quick!" and cup your groin looking for tucked nuts and a sausage. A dude at a club is also NOT going to turn down a blowjob from what they think is a willing woman.

>>40897020
he's supposed to say "I just want to let you know that I prefer not to sleep with trans women, are you one?"
It's completely irrational to expect that an entire demographic assumes that *everyone* coming onto them is both blind and secretly would find them disgusting.
The worst case scenario for a guy asking this question, where he accidentally asks a cis girl, is that she is put off and he doesn't get laid.
The worst case scenario for a tranny disclosing to a guy who already has her cornered is that he beats the shit out of you or tries to kill you.
One of these is OBVIOUSLY the solution and you're being intentionally obtuse to say that trannies should be put in that situation over men having to possibly make a social slight

>>40896898
> brand a big fat T on your foreheads at this point
Lol. I think that's the only way to stop this sort of sexual assault.

>>40897052
>I just want to let you know that I prefer not to sleep with trans women, are you one
>average cisfemale chav response: "what the FUCK? you think I look like a lad? FUCK YOU CUNT

>>40897092
boo fucking hoo nigger

>>40897092
did you even read my entire reply? WHOOO FUCKING CARES if he's not getting laid as often, it's STILL ON HIM

>>40897155
>>40897162
you are the one presenting female with genitalia straight cismale DO NOT WANT TO INTERACT WITH.

It is literally your responsibility to make this knowledge known. Because if you are in the EU it is SA. Honestly won't be surprised if that will also be the case in US. It is not the cismales responsibility to ask every single person they think is cisfemale this question. You are the one with the dick and balls, it is on you. Because otherwise you are a deceitful rapist.

You are intentionally obscuring this information to fulfill a fantasy and get laid. No matter how you try to spin it that is fucked up

>>40897196
kek I have a pussy you retard. guys LOVE interacting with my genitals, they just arbitrarily would be pissed if they knew it used to look different down there.
I'm in the US, so legally no, not my responsibility.

>>40897213
yep she caused mental scarring that probably won't go away for years. bitch deserves some jail time

From reading the thread i think that the problem is bottom chasers who gives trannies the impression men secretly love dick.

So she is definitely going to do time, but how's long she should serve? I say 3 years 8 months unless she has previous.

>>40897239
Consult a lawyer.

>>40891325
Damn straight men are so raped. Also I’m post op and never disclose.

>>40891325
Men are rapists.

>>40897362
>Under the California and U.S. constitutions, you have a protected right to privacy, which includes the right to keep your sexual orientation, gender identity or that you are transgender private (what courts call a “reasonable expectation of privacy”).

>>40897395
yeah trump needs to be told about this, that is fucked up.

>>40897395
Okay but what if the dude has religious reasons for only wanting natural born women. You can really live with yourself lying like this?

>>40897457
It's the fucking US constitution as well you trog outcrop-dweller

>>40897467
I DONT LIE i just don't bring it up retard
i've been saying this whole thread that if guys have a problem they should just ASK and it's done with. I've literally had that happen and i was just like "yeah sorry if that's a dealbreaker" and we went our separate ways

>>40897481
>I DONT LIE i just don't bring it up retard
I mean that is lying, they are being tricked.

>>40897467
I don't sleep with men who have dead wives due to religious beliefs, on dates, I ask men if they've ever been married. It's this easy

>>40896670
Lmao, based.

Chuds will hate this.

this whole lying thing for sex is so malebrained kek

Question for the chuds in this thread - do you disclose that you have a tiny dick before getting naked? Because if not, you should be jailed.

>>40897457
I kinda agree. trannies should stick to chasers from now on.

>>40897548
In my country you have to disclose to someone you have sex with that

-you are a blood relative
-you have an sti
-you are in teacher-student relationship with them
-you are an undercover cop on duty

So I don't really see how having to disclose your trans status is different here when all those things already apply.

Pretty crazy how the lgbt community traditionally loves to talk about bodily autonomy and sexual self-determination but as soon as you are a straight male, suddenly your rights and sexual orientation doesn't matter.

>>40897742
They also like to talk about consent and a straight cismale will probably NOT consent with someone that either has a penis or had surgery. They are looking for cisfemales.

>>40897698
is that Italy

>>40891325
for real though?
how drunk was the guy or was he blind

>>40897698
Ok, well in my country you don't.

So what now faggot?

>>40897780
I think you live in a backwards conservative country then that should consider modernizing its anti-rape laws. But at least women can be convicted of rape yes? Or does the anti-male bias go. even that far?

>>40891325
Extremely strong step in gender equality now that trannies are prosecuted for this.

Sexual assault is not real. You can not be raped by letting a girl suck your dick.

>hon try not to rape people challenge
>difficulty level: IMPOSSIBLE

Yea no fuck you for putting your self validation over someone unsuspecting what you actually are. You are a rapist for doing this.

>>40891562
The courts are instructed to convict, she could've had Saul and the State would execute her still

>>40891720
Kys as an example

>>40891947
The trans panic sucks so much, what a curse to live during this time.

Its like being black and looking at 1940s Alabama and thinking wow, glad i wasnt alive then

>>40891991
>In england

Fuck you

>>40892135
>btw if i get raped by a guy who doesn't know i'm a tranny am i going to jail? lmao

Well, yeah. This law is asking you to prove your innoence, which is a objectively impossible position.

Prove you told this guy before sex, you cant. It makes rape defacto legal

>>40891947
>Trans panic
Literally just be honest about what you are when trying to fuck someone. Why does "trans pride" instantly disappear and sit at the backseat of your mind during encounters with straight cismales? Instead you "trans-hide."

>>40892380
They stabbed her 14 times, and the CPS said it wasnt attempted murder. Btw, they're free now

>>40898025
Amen

>>40893122
Its a huge watershed moment.

A trans person is gonna be forcibly detranstitioned in a male prison because the guy she hooked up with felt embarrassed when his friends found out.

Its a huge milestone, and anyone trans in the UK not paying attention is not only a fool but putting their life and future in serious danger.

All it takes is one spiteful person to say "i hooked up with a trans person, they never told me" and they're looking at 7 years prison. Good luck proving yourself in the kangaroo courts of Britain

Men have literally went to prison when a woman regrets the sex. Now it is womens turn. LEL

>>40897698
Cool, what risk of being killed do those carry compared to disclosing being trans

>>40894624
I too yearn for the days of trve Photoshop effort

A world before hand computers that were easy enough for women to use

>>40898217
These incidents always happen after the dude has been tricked for several hours already and you are alone with the dude. Just. Say. What. You. Are.

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>>40898130
Because pride isnt about being out retard its about refusing to be oppressed by the government or people around you. Which stealthing absolutely is a way of expressing it.

Say what you are: a piece of shit.

Dont reply to me

>>40893101
Not really.

>>40898025
this 100%
you cant just keep your identity to yourself in this situation idgaf if it is a one night stand
if someone doesn't want amab chick they don't want a fucking amab chick. What is your major malfunction rapehons?

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>>40891325
Going to jail for being unable to prove a negative.
What a circus.

>>40893368
Are you the victim here?

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>me me me me me
Yeah what about me? Don't I get a say in this?

>>40898329
>no one deserves the presumption of innocence

Remember when the Chancellor of the Bank of England said she was going to listen to a retired children's author on transgender policy?

This is the result.

>>40892348
>british laws shouldn't be taken serious
Does that mean you'll quit trying to make up new laws to cater to you at everyone else's expense?

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>>40898025
Yknow as someone whos actually been raped before its so fucking beyond insulting seeing cishet guys claim they got raped because they sex'd a tranny on accident when they both consented, or yknow, more commonly they chose to have sex with a tranny and got embarrassed later because fragile male ego.
Unless the tranny forces their cock down a cishet guys throat when he doesnt want it I wouldnt say its rape. Rape is pretty inheritly being the reciever of actions not the doer. It is being violated forcefully. Not the equivalent of 'ah well I fucked an ugly person and feel sad'

>>40898298
>its about refusing to be oppressed by the government or people around you
Sounds like a declaration of war. Pretty bad look for people who are always claiming to be the victim. You demand people celebrate your abuses of their sensibilities while saying you're oppressed. And you're proud of that.

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>>40898025
I do not think post sex regret counts as rape, which almost all of these cases seem to be. Rape by deception is not a thing. If you have sex with a guy because he says he has a lot of money and it turns out he doesnt? How is that not on you?
If youre so concerned about having sex with a tranny it is your job to have a strong enough filter to filter that out and not be a degenerate who just has sex at the drop of a hat.
If you know a tranny for long enough eventually you will either find out, or it will be she has had bottom surgery and its impossible to tell at which point morally speaking is it not a moot point?

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>>40898433
It is your job to filter out the trannies, not the trannies job to filter out you. It takes two to have sex and the tranny is not the one holding the standards here it is the guy, so it is up to the guy to see it through that he is upholding those standards and to what degree those standards are no?
The tranny did not force herself on him did she?

>>40898463
What does that have to do with your pride in preying on people's tolerance and deceiving their visual recognition of human beings?

Maybe just don't hide the truth from drunk dudes and they won't beat you into the cement.
>>40898463
If that guy was even slightly impaired then that tranny deserves to be charged. Impaired judgement does not equal consent and the tranny has secret knowledge they aren't willing to disclose to the straight cismale. You are being disingenuous and attempting to bypass his sexual preferences by keeping your true nature a secret. You are getting off from stealth raping someone.

>>40898484
nta but you think we look at this the same way as you and we just don't. This is like if you were eating a steak and I walked up screeching
>WHAT DOES IT FEEL LIKE TO HAVE PRIDE IN PREYING ON INNOCENT ANIMALS

>>40898229
society is so shit now its literally every person on any social media all of them fake it and then look terrible irl

>>40898496
>you think we look at this the same way as you and we just don't
No I don't. You're still wrong nonetheless.

>>40893101
I like how you conveniently left out anything that involves sex like STDs because you knew your argument would fall apart immediately.

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>>40898494
When did I say anything about impairment? I absolutely think that having sex while impaired is morally wrong however it depends on the degree of impairment.
When Im drunk I am always first to say openly
>Yes I want sex but I think Im too drunk to be able to have sex
So once again does the onus not fall on him?
If he was black out drunk though? Then sure lock her up.

>>40898508
wrong about what? i didn't make a claim

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>>40898518
>Comparing being trans to having an STD
Brother you basically just called out that you came into this discussion with your conclusion pre made and will bend anything and everything to fit your view. How about not viewing transness as something inheritly terrible and harmful first?

>>40898523
You're either cosigning someone else's claim by saying "we" as though you're in agreement with them or you're trying to butt in to a conversation with no claim, just to prattle. Which is it?

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>>40898494
>>40898519
Also this is still not getting into how rape is doing something to someone not having something done to them. If he was drunk and pushed to have sex with her while he was drunk? Once again on him. It is up to yourself to enforce your own standards. This is like saying that if you fucked an ugly girl because you were drunk the girl should go to prison for being ugly.

>>40898557
i'm saying "we" as in transsexuals
>>40898518
this isn't a good equivalent, sleeping with someone who has STDs harms you materially, sleeping with someone who is a stealth transsexual does not affect you whatsoever if you never discover it

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I can't believe people are genuinely defending a rapist.

>>40898532
You compared being trans to having an allergy or having COVID, kindly shut your dumb ass up.

>>40898577
>penetration
There we fucking go. LOCK THAT TRANNY UP

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>>40898584
?

>>40898586
doesn't this mean it's literally impossible the guy didn't know? kek

>>40898563
If you are a certain level of drunk you can't enforce your own standards bro.
>>40898599
Or during a blowjob this tranny stuck a finger up the dudes ass.

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>>40898577
fucking rapehons

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>>40898607
So then. Just for consistency if you have sex with an ugly girl while you're drunk, should the girl be locked up even when youre the one who pushed to have sex in the first place?

>>40898574
>i'm saying "we" as in transsexuals
Ya don't say.

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>>40898607
That would still require lube being put there which would imply knowing in some way beforehand.

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>>40898607
>>40898640
My bad this was a retarded 'own the libs' esque point to make. A better point to make would be would this not imply a previously existing curiosity for ass stuff which would be associated with liking trannies?
Again none of this is discussing how fucked it is to force someone to prove a negative.

>>40898577
>>40898631
You are defending a rapist. Yes if the guy was TOO Drunk. Men have went to jail for sleeping with TOO drunk women that initiated on them and regretted it later. Fair is Fair.
>>40898640
Literally no it would not. Dude is getting his dick sucked, relaxed, and suddenly most likely got stabbed in the asshole by this vulture's reaching claw.

Not disclosing isn’t rape wtf is wrong with you retards and whatever gay country prosecuted her

>>40898532
Nobody is "comparing" anything. That person argued that trans is a medical condition therefore you don't have to disclose it, using allergies as an example. That anon pointed out the obvious flaw in that reasoning because you DO have to disclose medical conditions in certain cases and now you're just deflecting to this strawman.

>>40898577
Yeah fuck everyone defending her in this thread. You are a scumbag and probably are just like this chick.

>>40898640
>That would still require lube being put there which would imply knowing in some way beforehand.
Uh yeah I guess if it was planned and consenting. I am just gonna guess that the assplay was sudden and spooked this dude badly and the trans identity got revealed from it somehow.

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>>40898577
>>40898577
>I can't believe people are genuinely defending a rapist.
It wasn't exactly rape by UK legal definition, but your point stands. Until they severely punish this kind of behavior trannies will feel that its okay to push the boundaries.

Its good that she was caught before the relationship went too deep, but a similar rapist was sentenced to over six years.

At least this time the Jury convicted without a retrial. If the judge is lenient more men will be traumatised by trannies like the ones who defend this. Only a deterrent sentence is gonna stop this rot. There's a huge sexual difference between guys who would with trannies and those who are disgusted by the idea. Trannies don't get this.

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>>40898677
I never said anything about being trans being equivalent to having an allergy, dont put words in my mouth I think thats retarded. I think its up to you to hold yourself up to your own standards of who you fuck and its childish and retarded to suddenly start crying and pointing fingers when you chose to have sex with them. If you were the one pushing for it, its on you 99.9% of the time.

>>40898577
>>40898670
it was penetration. it was rape.

>>40898703
Thanks Andrea Dworkin

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>>40898690
Let's occams razor this. It was a retarded point for me to make because you can still penatrate an ass with a finger without disclosing transness. But also its retarded to think you can actually achieve that penatration without lube and is just saying youve never actually done ass stuff if you think otherwise
So the most obvious interpretation here is there is at least some form of interest in butt stuff, which again would heavily IMPLY interest in trans people specifically but not entirely confirm it.
But again this is splitting hairs and ignoring the elephant in the room and trying to derail my initial point in that is it not on the one pushing for sex to enforce their own standards? You cannot push too have sex with someone and then claim to be the victim because you didnt enforce your own standards on yourself.
Rape laws are meant to protect against victims who have had people force themselves on them. Not protect against bad decisions.

I sleep with a man who has undergone surgical penis enhancement, he used to have a microdick. If i'd known i'd have said no with 100% certainty, and since I found out it's causing me immense psychological turmoil. Was i raped?

>>40898730
Just going off the rape rules established in this thread. "Receivers" are victims.

>>40898697
>I never said anything about being trans being equivalent to having an allergy, dont put words in my mouth I think thats retarded.
Well that was the post that was being replied to, dumb fuck. Go sperg out on that retard for making dumb fucking arguments.
>I think its up to you to hold yourself up to your own standards of who you fuck
This only works if you're informed when making your decision. Some men don't want to fuck trans women, period and end of story. It's childish on YOUR part to try and take away their agency because you don't like that they want to avoid you. Hell its beyond childish, its predatory and rapey.

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>>40898763
If a man lies and says he has a lot of money to attract a woman for a one night stand is it rape?

>>40898768
Sure, why not? At the very least its predatory, deceitful trash behavior.

>>40898746
>Was i raped?

Depends, if you're a cis woman, then the man will be tarred and feathered.

If you're a trans person, you get to spend 10 years in prison and sex offenders register for life. Justice is blind

>>40898742
Yeah. OK and lets look at the victim's side of this story.
>>40898577
Let's see...mental trauma, CHECK...hmmm clearly would have not done the act if he had known....CHECK...ok anything else anything else....ahhh yes the accused themselves literally admitted they were lying and deceitful in order to gain sexual access to the victim, to top it all off a charge for assault by penetration... It is obvious the dude did not want this. Why are you dying on this hill. I mean SHE LITERALLY said she lied about her true nature. She hid this fact from him. This isn't some "gotcha" moment. A person was tricked here about the nature of someone else and has literal mental trauma from these sexual acts now. That dude will never be the same after this. All because some actual lying scumbag just HAD to fulfill a fantasy.

>>40898779
Then why aren't you campaigning for it. According to you, rape is occurring in the millions every weekend, since a man lying about his income or occupation is rape.

Why do you not care about rape?

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>>40898779
Yknow its funny as a generally man hating feminist Id still say its not rape. Its gross and trashy but gross and trashy never got anyone thrown in prison.
Again it is your job to enforce your own standards. Just admit you have lower standards than you think you do and move on.

>>40898797
>hmmm clearly would have not done the act if he had

He said he went to the police because his friends found out

>>40898768
You are attempting to crawl around the sexual preferences of someone to get what you want sexually. That is sociopath behavior. That man wants amab cisfemales. Using trickery you pulled one over on him and mentally scarred him for life so you could get your nut off for the night.

>>40898802
>Then why aren't you campaigning for it.
What the fuck does this even mean? I'm not "campaigning" for this either, I'm just pointing out bad behavior on the internet. I'm not in the streets protesting that some trannies are gross ass rapists.
>rape is occurring in the millions every weekend
Rape is happening every day in large amounts even if you don't include this, yeah. Nice try though.

>>40898821
>"The victim has made it clear in a police interview..."
It's pretty obvious he didn't want it. Now she is going to get a couple years because she couldn't say, "btw I'm trans not sure if that matters."

>>40898809
You are a terrible human

>>40898809
Being a rapist has definitely thrown people in prison and this is rape so you're wrong on that front.

UK is evil. I wish I was that guy and reassured her everything would be okay and got her to show her ass. If she was not on hrt because she was a dumb normie chav I would get her to take it off my dick. Maybe progesterone off my dick too when I shove it in her ass. She does not deserve what is happening to her. However her town is awful and I'm not going up there.

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>>40898797
Ah yes the mental trauma of realizing youre a degenerate who pushed to have sex with someone you don't like and that you have no inhibitions to wait long enough to actually know the person well enough to know these things. How terrible.
And the whole true nature thing is retarded. People play themselves up on dates all the fucking time. It is not in my nature to be a happy upbeat person but I play myself up for the girl Im dating because I like her and I know she likes to see me happy even when honestly its not in my nature. Is that rape?
And again for the penatration you would HAVE to have lube it's just how ass stuff works, which would very obviously imply prior consent.

>>40898809
like christ ugh >man hating feminist
fucking bitch double standards are gay as fuck

>>40898832
>It's pretty obvious he didn't want it.

They met multiple times. His friends found out so he is saying he never knew

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>>40898858
>>40898768
My example was literally saying if the exact same thing happened to a woman where a man lied about himself to get access then thats on her. Gassing yourself up isnt a crime. Forcing yourself on someone is. Rape by deciept isnt a thing thats just having regret.
And before you say it no deciept and coercion are not the same thing and Im not gonna sit here and explain the differences to you just go look up the definitions of the words if youre that curious.

It's pretty simple, if that person wouldn't have sex with you if they were fully informed and you intentionally keep that information from them knowing this to try and get sex then its rape.

>>40898857
>he didn't have lube so sex can't happen!
Are you just being disingenuous for fun or something? What is force, what is coercion, what is non-consent,

Tell me bro, how do rapists rape women anally without lube? God you are a fucking RETARD.

>>40898406
>fragile male ego.
lets not throw stones in glass houses here, a tgirls ego would be obliterated if they actually told the truth before trying to fuck guys like this that don't actually want amabs

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>>40898891
And if it was without lube then yes. Jail for sure. But I doubt that especially considering from everything Ive seen all the sex acts themselves were consensual it was merely the transness that was the problem feel free to correct me if Im wrong.

>>40898873
i dont give a shit about that just the fact you call yourself a man hating feminist and post some dead commies pisses me off

>>40898909
>from everything Ive seen
Are you intentionally just not looking at this?
>>40898577
HE DIDN'T WANT A TRANNY YOU JACKASS.

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>>40898916
Neat.

>>40898929
yeah you are just a massive faggot

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He had to have been wasted. I'm calling rape-aroonie on this one. We need to ban these types of filters as well.

>>40891325
i mean its just catfishing lmao
i think they shouldnt be charged but ofc the trannies here will defend their kin even if they are child rapists

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>>40898925
Then he shouldn't have chosen to have sex with a tranny? He should have kept to a standard and Im sure from here on out he will hold himself to a higher standard and take more time to get to know the person before having sex.
Mistakes happen. Dont throw people in prison for your own mistakes. If you dont want to have sex with a tranny and you are afraid of trannies deceiving you then maybe wait a while before having sex.
But yknow. Gotta get ur dick wet right?

>>40898679
Why are you respecting his pronoun preferences then?

>>40898966
>If you dont want to have sex with a tranny and you are afraid of trannies deceiving you then maybe wait a while before having sex
Or call the deception what it is, criminal intent.

>>40898966
>Victim blaming.
You are part of the problem, done communicating. You can hate men or whatever but you aren't immune to the fucking law.

>>40898985
You're being deceptive right now, you may appear to have a human body, but you're a monstrous creature

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>>40898985
Rape by deception doesnt exist. Its just a ding to your ego. Name one other instance of rape by deception that exists that isnt used to bash trans people.

>>40898967
Because women can also rape I guess?

>>40898951
VACATE! ENTIRE THREAD DEEEEEEBUNKED

>>40898994
Trying to wax ironic doesn't make that statement any less of a malicious lie. You should stop doing that.

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>>40898668
>Yes if the guy was TOO Drunk. Men have went to jail for sleeping with TOO drunk women that initiated on them and regretted it later. Fair is Fair.
>Anon doesnt know what giver reciever power dynamics are or what the difference between deception and coercion are
>Literally no it would not. Dude is getting his dick sucked, relaxed, and suddenly most likely got stabbed in the asshole by this vulture's reaching claw.
>Ive already said that if it were this it would absolutely be rape

>>40898951
Okay he was either a drunk white dude or a horny brown man

>>40898996
>that isnt used to bash trans people.
arbitrary qualifier

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>>40899024
Well if rape by deception exists then certianly it is not a phenomenon exclusive to trans people as people are deceptive all the fuckin time when it comes to dates.
Name a single time a cis person has been charged for it.

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>>40898996
people are noticing, your time will be up eventually.

>>40898999
Are you pretending not to know he's not a woman? This isn't a trifling matter like the little gender games people play on the Internet. You need to be more serious about things like this.

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>>40899033
I sure do hope this will effect cis men who lie to gas themselves up but I am not naive enough to believe it.

>>40899029
It wouldn't matter if this was the first time in human history anybody was ever charged with rape. His deception was criminal intent and you have no (0) alibi for him.

I'm an extremely racist white woman in the 1960s who would never willingly racemix, and a man sweet talks me at work and asks me out. The date is amazing and we have hot multi-orgasmic sex in his car afterwards. When he's taking me home i look in his wallet and he has a picture of his grandmother, a black woman. Was i raped?

>>40899047
>>40898768

>>40899055
Doesn't work that way.

>>40899062
?
Explain

>>40899053
if that man's penis falls off and they are actually a ftm that purposefully lied to you
yes

>>40899065
I'm not here to explain myself to a larping tranny. Stop defending rape.

>>40898951
The dude had to have been completely loaded and barely sentient to let this thing suck on his dick.

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>>40899071
Its not rape.

>>40899082
Are you a soldier?

>>40898025
>Yea no fuck you for putting your self validation over someone unsuspecting what you actually are. You are a rapist for doing this.
I don't think this was looking for validation. that was never said in court. the tranny claimed it was obvious that he was male from looking at him

>>40899175
>the tranny claimed it was obvious that he was male from looking at him
It's not up to the tranny.

>>40899175
The lawyers are using that as the defense lol. Reread that pic again. How humiliating that must be to have as a defense.

Proof just how subhuman the average chaser is: the thread

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>>40898905
If men didnt want to fuck amabs they wouldnt be advocating so hard for rape by deception laws anon.

Do crossdressers even care about the implications of being a predator? When your M.O. is pride it seems more likely that this kind of thing would happen like it's business as usual.

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Raping men is not okay. when will trannies acknowledge this. There is no such thing as stealth mode, only rape mode.

>>40898126
This would not involve you committing a crime.

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>>40897467
>religious reasons
dont care what youre retarded book says

>>40897395
California is one wild place. You can infect sometime with HIV and get away with it too. Fucking thing sucks.

>>40901464
you are NOT allowed to knowingly infect someone with HIV in california
>Under California Health and Safety Code § 120290, it is a misdemeanor for a person with an infectious disease, including HIV, to willfully expose themselves to another person
and it's a felony if it's intentional

this is not the same scenario. If you sleep with someone who has HIV and they never tell you, you contract a disease and are thus undergoing actual material harm. If you sleep with a transsexual unknowingly and they never tell you, literally nothing changes about your life and you will live the rest of it as if she had been a natal female

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real feel. cis het men need a JK Rowling moment and to start regaining their spaces

What the fuck is wrong with this board? There are literally dozens of people that defend someone anally raping a drunk victim.

>>40897837
>I think you should live in a place where the government has red tape around sexuality

Yeah, kys retard

>>40900157

Seethe because we've taken the power back. Sorry faggot but I don't disclose! And never will. If the guy didn't want to fuck me he shouldn't have made a move and then got hard. Literally not my problem.

I will continue fucking men with mt indistinguishable pussy. I hope that makes you seethe.

>But you'll be killed!!!

No I wont lmao.

>>40901923
>What the fuck is wrong with this board? There are literally dozens of people that defend someone anally raping a drunk victim.
the dozens are practically all are trannies

>>40901923
the dude got a bj
and only claimed to be "raped" after he said he had sex with an ugly tranny to his friends and got laughed at

stealthing is dumb, playing hard mode to be on par with endless competition, watering down your value almost completely

but a lot of guys are into you, and will hold you in esteem over all the aforementioned competition, these are the guys to attract, the ones who want you for what you are.

This is basically the admission right here. >>40901976 It's not about sexual gratification or getting off. Like with every form of predatory behavior it's about power and dominating your victims. These are 1 to 1 the words of every rapist or predator that sociopathically exhilarates at victimization and getting away with it.

>>40901976
>I think you should live in a place where the government has red tape around sexuality

Of course I believe that. Lmao. Like what the fuck? Do you realize how rapey you sound, lmaooo.

>>40901984
It quite literally says penetration right there. Are you blind?

>>40902017
This is literally 1 to 1 how incels justify rape. I. e. 'he got only accused because she regretted it/got caught cheating by her bf' or how pedophiles justify rape 'What if the child consented though? The child only gets traumatized by the social pressure afterwards, not by the act itself.'

>Trans girls goes out to the club meets a fella
>Guy says hey, want to come back to my place?
> Trans girl: First to be in compliance with British law, you have to come with me and get your signature notarized on this waiver form indicating acknowledgement of my trans status. This is so all parties are on record as having knowledge and consent. Then we can kiss.
Do Britbongs really?

>>40902502
That's virtually one to one how the law works for consent when having sex with a cis girl.

Congratulations for discovering how consent works.

>>40902325
Boohoo, faggot

>>40903095
Cool, when are we arresting all the cis women for having sex with guys?

>>40902502
Just act like a civilized human lmfao.

>>40903095
>>40903539
This is how dishonest you bots are here. The Gay panic defense, and this Trans panic defense are not like the usual He Said/She Said that cis people have when a hookup goes wrong.
Its not that consent wasn't obtained, in fact it was obtained, its the fact that shaming by 3rd parties after the fact caused people to change their story under duress of shame, and without literally notarized signatures and waivers, that creates special burdens on Gay and Trans people who have casual hookups.
So no, this not the garden variety hookup scenarios that cis people do.

>>40901976
How powerful are you exactly? On 4chan everyone's power level is 0.

>>40899053
yes

>>40903745
You didn't say anything new, you just repeated the same debunked argument.

Sorry but being a member of a marginalized community doesn't give you special consent privileges.

>>40903363
When people like you stop supporting rape legislation that is highly disfavorable to men.

It was grape

>>40904853
The gay and trans community gets consent always, you are inventing a legal exception for Duress to retroactively eliminate consent. You are supporting Duress recantations and lawlessness.

>>40905115
Repeating the same rape apologia a third time doesn't make it true. Once again that's the argument incels use to claim a rape didn't happen because a cis girl just didn't like the sex or was 'duressed' into her boyfriend into saying it was rape.

>>40905417
You are lying, the boy was clearly intimidated by friends and family into recanting his story, he was forced under duress to retroactively deny his consent. You facilitate blackmail and manipulation and lying.

>>40905465
4th time repeating the same rapist apologia

>>40903745
Consent want obtained. Except maybe in fantasy.

Strange how people in this thread demand orwellian authoritarianism.

We should partition Britian. Those who want to live under the boot of tyranny can go to the west of England, those who value freedom and happiness can go to the East. We can rejoin the EU

The problem is the bootlickers wont be happy until everyone is as miserable as they are. We need walls

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>>40906763
>Strange how people in this thread demand orwellian authoritarianism.

No just be honest, really. Honestly I can see now she will need a stiff sentence to discourage other transwomen. Sad but true.

Being trans doesn't give you special powers to go out and commit sexual assaults.

>>40908063
Funny how even RUSSIA doesn't throw trans women in male prisons for the crime of being raped

>>40898577
>penetration
so did she put her willy up his bum? what actually happened?

>>40908861
she presumably blew him, if she had fucked his ass he would have literally no way of accusing her of deceiving him genius

>>40908861
bitch penetrated him. the courts are apparently too coy to go into detai.

>>40909289
>>40908886
conflicting responses
blowing a person is not penetrating them, so idk what the fuck happened, it might have nothing to do with her being trans

>The defendant, who was born male, had used the name Ciara since the age of 13 although had not undergone any medical treatment or surgery, the court heard.

so not on hrt even lmao

>>40909427
NHS is a bitch lol

>>40909433
funny joke but like if she wasn't even trying to get hrt is she even trans or just gnc or something

>>40909449
It's a guy who thinks he's a woman.

>>40909805
what is this facebook you fucking moron?

>>40891886
This desu

>>40898137
>They stabbed her 14 times, and the CPS said it wasnt attempted murder
...Duh? She died, so of course it wasn't *attempted* murder. It was plain murder.

This is like being indignant that Dahmer didn't get convicted of attempted cannibalism.

>>40893101
You're supposed to disclose anything that a normal sensible person knows would materially negatively affect the other person's desire to fuck you if they knew about it, you absolute retarded narcissistic failure of a human being.

Fortunately your asshurt about this obvious and humane moral universal will not get you the slightest bit less convicted, hopefully you can be furious in jail in the future.

>>40909984
this is not true whatsoever people lie about their job, their age, the fact that they don't have a drug addiction, etc. literally all the time, none of them are convicted of shit ever

>>40893609
>MTF ogrehon commits unambiguous rape and gets a mild prison sentence for it
>268 replies, shrieking and chimpouts from stealth rape apes
>FTM fucking dies in prison
>16 replies, archived

>>40897052
>he's supposed to say "I just want to let you know that I prefer not to sleep with trans women, are you one?"
>this, a procedure with 99+% negative rate, is supposed to be more sensible and intuitive than troons just disclosing in advance to avoid rapism
Some of you have severe fucking brain problems.

>>40910077
Trannies live in la la land

>>40910077
? are you stupid?
>guy is coming onto you at a party, you're in public and he's got you kinda cornered near the bathroom
>he has a knife on his belt and said "fags" earlier
>you just want to get out of the situation but as you try to leave he blocks you and pushes you into the bathroom
>he takes out his cock and looks at you expectantly
DO YOU
A: blurt out "I'm a tranny!!!!" and get beaten/stabbed
B: suck his cock, leave as quickly as possible afterwards, and go home with your safety

You're pissed that you wouldn't get laid as much?

>>40910392
way to move the goalposts, rapist. ywnbaw

>>40910617
i'm not moving the goalposts this is a real situation i've been in. what would you do? i know what i did, i came home with all my teeth

>>40910392
You being stealth is the problem.
It's s calculated deception.
Straight guys aren't going to parties to get with men in drag or with trannies. Get that through your head.

>>40911832
is your advice detransition then? it sounds like you're just opposed to us living as we prefer in general. All I do is take hormones, if i go out with no makeup in jeans and a tshirt people still think i'm a female. Why should it be up to you whether or not i have long hair and choose to pay for medical treatment of my preference

>>40897470
Trannies are explicitly mentioned in the Constitution? Doubt.jpg
Also strongly doubt.jpg that this falling under the reasonable expectation of privacy has ever been tested in the SC, post case if not

>>40897481
>lying by omission doesn't exist and nobody has ever coined a term for such a behavior

>>40897530
1000%, kek

>>40910392
LMAO you're supposed to
C: Not go to parties with knife wielding faghaters

>>40912151
i don't exactly plan it, where i live there's knife wielding fighters whenever i leave my house
>>40912141
is the man lying by omission when he doesn't tell me he's married? is that rape then, because i wouldn't have slept with him otherwise? food for thought

>>40912151
faghaters**

>>40912317
>i don't exactly plan it, where i live there's knife wielding fighters whenever i leave my house
yeh so go to parties with these guys. lmfao. being 'forced' to bj this guy must be some type of validation

>>40912317
>where i live there's knife wielding fighters whenever i leave my house
leave ur house permanently

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Beginning to understand why trannies consider themselves of such low value. They need to trick men just in order to have normal healthy interactions. Breaking the law even when it suits their passions.

Id be low esteem too if that was me.

>>40891325
pro trans but if you're lying to your partners in any relationship, don't be surprised when they don't like that

>>40891325
Did this person have the retarded gender certificate or not?
Either you are legally male or female